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Re: Med Board Goes After Murray with a Vengeance

BillieJean84 said:
someone else died in his care (Accidental) before though...doesnt make sense.
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This was a story posted by one person and we don't know if it is true or not. No charges were filed and nothing was proven.

Anyone can come along and accuse you of doing something.

I truly believe if this doctor was so dangerous he would have had a lot more people chomping at the bit and TMZ would have found them. I am sure every reporter and their grandmother was out there looking for someone to come up against Murray and make accusations and the truth is, they found one person who can't prove anything at all.

They took away his right to sedate or put someone 'under' which is the legal right thing to do.

We may not all like it, but those are the rules and as someone said, it isn't up to the courts to take his license away. It goes under review of the medical licensing board.
 
Re: Med Board Goes After Murray with a Vengeance

elusive moonwalker said:
they will revoke his licence. its just that they asked a judge to do it as it takes time doing it the normal way. look how angry the board is at what murray has done.thats another expert witness for the prosecution

so a teacher whos accused/charged with child abuse still works with kids. after all they havnt been found guilty. nothing to do with whether hes been convicted or not.the board wants his licence revoked and has started the motions to do it. its being suspened not taken away all together. onces hes convicted he should be struck off
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Here is the thing. If the medical board really believes he is a danger to the public and they can't do anything about it and need to use a trial judge to do it for them, something is wrong with the system and that judge isn't responsible for their red tape. They need to fix their own ish. If they want to take away his license to practice they need to do that and not ask someone else to do their bidding for them.

Regarding a teacher. Well, crimes involving children are viewed quite differently. They will take a teacher out of the situation until things are settled in most cases. Crimes involving child abuse are not taken lightly at all and are seen as among the worst.

So, in this instance, the judge took away his right to use that or any drug that puts a person under which is the crime he is accused of and that is the legally proper thing to do.
 
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Beachlover said:
Here is the thing. If the medical board really believes he is a danger to the public and they can't do anything about it and need to use a trial judge to do it for them, something is wrong with the system and that judge isn't responsible for their red tape. They need to fix their own ish. If they want to take away his license to practice they need to do that and not ask someone else to do their bidding for them.

Regarding a teacher. Well, crimes involving children are viewed quite differently. They will take a teacher out of the situation until things are settled in most cases. Crimes involving child abuse are not taken lightly at all and are seen as among the worst.

So, in this instance, the judge took away his right to use that or any drug that puts a person under which is the crime he is accused of and that is the legally proper thing to do.
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Sex crimes against children is the kiss of death in many careers. Something Michael learned the hard way. If you are just accuse of touching a child, you can kiss your job goodbye. Even if you are proven innocent in the end.

Child molestation is viewed even worst than murder in some circles and it is a crime that you are forever guilty of even if the child can't describe your privates. What happen to Michael in 93 and 05 happens here everyday. Peoples live a literally destroyed by this one accusation. Because in the eyes of society you are forever branded as a molester.

Guilty even if proven innocent.
 
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Murray is not innocent! He said himself he gave the propofol to Michael. The coroners report officially now tells the propofol killed Michael (not that we didn't knew that already!).

Innocent is different.

Murray deserves to be punished hard.
He should never be allowed to practice again as a doctor, not even as a nurse.

He should never be allowed to have only one dollar... any dollars in his pockets again... not a dime more than welfare would give at least.
The money should go to his poor children or the court and police he kept busy by what he did!

He is a man, an adult with simply no (professional) dignity.

The medical board... professors who educated him at University... they should all feel sorry for the time they've given to him... what a waste.
 
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Mechi said:
Murray is not innocent! He said himself he gave the propofol to Michael. The coroners report officially now tells the propofol killed Michael (not that we didn't knew that already!).

Innocent is different.

Murray deserves to be punished hard.
He should never be allowed to practice again as a doctor, not even as a nurse.

He should never be allowed to have only one dollar... any dollars in his pockets again... not a dime more than welfare would give at least.
The money should go to his poor children or the court and police he kept busy by what he did!

He is a man, an adult with simply no (professional) dignity.

The medical board... professors who educated him at University... they should all feel sorry for the time they've given to him... what a waste.
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Nicely said!
All of this is just so freakin' crazy and unbelievable! Our world has gone crazy...don't understand nothing anymore!
 
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on the page there is a voting:

Appropriate charge ...
Murder
or Manslaughter


Appropriate charge ...
Manslaughter 71%
Murder 29%
Total Votes: 737
Note on Poll Results

...

imo it is very mean to ask the question like that. Murder or manslaughter isn't the question, between manslaughter and INVOLUNTARY manslaughter is a BIG difference. So what?

Sorry, but people are so stupid.
 
Re: Murray's license in ok now

In my country(italy) most of the times we have similar situations.
Doctors who killed someone still are doctors,or doctors that are no doctor in truth.
So it's not only in the USA.
But after all,this is a big problem, and the govermments should find solutions to resolve it.
 
CA Medical Board Seeking to Suspend Murray's Medical License

Jackson's Doctor Unable to Prescribe Anesthetics
Wednesday, February 17, 2010

(02-17) 17:57 PST Los Angeles, CA (AP) --
The California Medical Board says Michael Jackson's doctor has been temporarily
restricted from administering or prescribing any sedatives. The board sent out a
notification Wednesday describing the change to Dr. Conrad Murray's medical license.

The move was effective Feb. 8 after the judge at Murray's arraignment ordered
him not to use any anesthetic, specifically the powerful anesthetic propofol
blamed in the singer's death, or any other heavy sedative.

Murray pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.
The order covers anywhere in the U.S. Murray is licensed.
He is currently working out of a physician's office in Las Vegas.
The California Medical Board is planning to seek the suspension of Murray's medical license.


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good hopefully he wont kill anyone else before his trial.....they should be seeking the death penalty too. ....Thanks for the thread.
 
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This is good, he shouldn't be able to practice medicine at all. Too bad the texas board is so lenient. The las vegas board need to do something as well.
 
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nena said:
This is good, he shouldn't be ablt to practice medicine at all. Too bad the texas board is so lenient. The las vegas board need to do something as well.
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I agree with this post.....they need to stop him from practicing all together.....he is not a doctor he is the devil.
 
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have the boards in nevada and texas said anything?
 
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Suspend?! How the hell is he even allowed to still have one? :S

He killed a patient.
 
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He broke his hipocratic oath which is supposed to be sacred, he betrayed his patient's trust and he showed a wanton, criminal disregard for his patient's safety and it resulted in death, there should have been no hesitation in suspending his licence, pending an enquiry on their part. They know enough already to suspend it, and when he is found guilty as I really believe he will be, his licence should be terminated permanently.
 
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I can't believe American laws on this! Just ridiculous.
 
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Why would anyone want to be treated by a doctor facing a manslaughter charge in the first place? In the UK you would be suspended immediatly until your name was cleared.
 
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Suspended!! It should be taken off him!

He should never be allowed to practice again.
 
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sloride said:
Why would anyone want to be treated by a doctor facing a manslaughter charge in the first place? In the UK you would be suspended immediatly until your name was cleared.
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cause all his patients live in poor areas and cant afford to pay for insurance so get whoever is given to them. u think hed still be practicing if he were a doctor in belair?. the system aint bothered if he kills off a few of his paitents as they are a burden on the system anyway
 
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sloride said:
Why would anyone want to be treated by a doctor facing a manslaughter charge in the first place? In the UK you would be suspended immediatly until your name was cleared.
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Exactly! Jeez...it's ridiculous.
 
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ensleyave said:
He shouldn't be able to give an aspirin.

:banghead
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You made me laugh. STOP hitting your head against that brick wall!! However, I got you.
 
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I honestly don't understand what "damage control" the judge enforced to Murray.
Not sedating people?
He is not supposed to be doing that anyway,he is not an anesthesiologist.
So practically he imposed nothing on him besides the bail.
It's really up to the Medical Board to take measures,but I know this is a time consuming procedure,it may take months.
IMO he should be disallowed to treat high profile people ever again.
 
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Its so hard not to get angry about this. Murray shouldn't even be giving anyone a paracetemol let alone still able to practice medicine. It makes me sick.
 
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Maria MJ said:
I honestly don't understand what "damage control" the judge enforced to Murray.
Not sedating people?
He is not supposed to be doing that anyway,he is not an anesthesiologist.
So practically he imposed nothing on him besides the bail.
It's really up to the Medical Board to take measures,but I know this is a time consuming procedure,it may take months.
IMO he should be disallowed to treat high profile people ever again.
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You do not have to be an anesthesiologist to administer sedatives. This is a point that needs to be hammered into everyones head here. He was a trained cardiologist.

However, the rest of your post is accurate. He is still free to practice besides that.
 
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Beachlover said:
You do not have to be an anesthesiologist to administer sedatives. This is a point that needs to be hammered into everyones head here. He was a trained cardiologist.

However, the rest of your post is accurate. He is still free to practice besides that.
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why would a cardiologist have anesthetics/or why even use it?
Murray's not cardiac surgeons, he's just a cardiologist. blah blah trained or not he should not be using propofol.
they should not only suspend his medical license, they should just burn it.
 
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Beachlover said:
You do not have to be an anesthesiologist to administer sedatives. This is a point that needs to be hammered into everyones head here. He was a trained cardiologist.

However, the rest of your post is accurate. He is still free to practice besides that.
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You don't have to be a anesthesiologist to administer sedatives? Then what's the point of even having anesthesiologist's then?

From your post your basically saying that Murray knew what he was doing because he was a trained cardiologist? Okay...then he should have known that he was giving Michael a dosage that would have napped him right away.

He should be stripped from his entire medical license. He shouldn't even be able to practice medicine at all. He doesn't show any care at all for other human beings besides himself, by what he did to Michael. You can clearly see that based on how he covered what he did before having someone else call 911.

You would think he would know how to do CPR too? Since he is a trained cardiologist and all. But yet, again he does it wrong? why? and he waited way too long before he even started doing CPR, he had more important things to do like "relieving himself" and making "phone-calls."

Then he decides heyy to save myself I should get a "witness" to see that I am "actually" doing CPR. Then he has the nerve to even call Prince? Idk if Prince went up there or not. But he shouldn't have even called Prince at all!
He doesn't care what the effects of Prince seeing his own father not breathing would have done to him. Yet again, he cares about saving himself!
 
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Look, lets try to be reasonable and not jump on me for every thing I say that you don't like. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true. I'll explain again about the Propofol for those who are still confused as to its use.

Propofol can be used for dental procedures, plastic surgeries, colonoscopies, cardiac procedures etc. It isn't just for surgery and it isn't just for anesthesiologists. Also, by law, doctors have a right to use medications 'off label'. That means they can use a drug for a use other than its intended use. This can come in very handy if someone you know needs a medication to treat something like Cancer or severe pain that nothing else works for, or that they know works for that particular reason but it is not what the medication was made for. It can take many years to be approved and people die waiting.

I didn't make up the rules. I am just telling you the facts. Also, the reason he still has his license is because this was deemed to be an 'accident' so far and this is the first incident he has had with a patient. As a person and a physician he also has rights just like everyone else.

I know a lot of you hate that, but it is true.
 
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Beachlover said:
Look, lets try to be reasonable and not jump on me for every thing I say that you don't like. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true. I'll explain again about the Propofol for those who are still confused as to its use.

Propofol can be used for dental procedures, plastic surgeries, colonoscopies, cardiac procedures etc. It isn't just for surgery and it isn't just for anesthesiologists. Also, by law, doctors have a right to use medications 'off label'. That means they can use a drug for a use other than its intended use. This can come in very handy if someone you know needs a medication to treat something like Cancer or severe pain that nothing else works for, or that they know works for that particular reason but it is not what the medication was made for. It can take many years to be approved and people die waiting.

I didn't make up the rules. I am just telling you the facts. Also, the reason he still has his license is because this was deemed to be an 'accident' so far and this is the first incident he has had with a patient. As a person and a physician he also has rights just like everyone else.

I know a lot of you hate that, but it is true.
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whatever the other fans don't get..one thing is for sure, you're not helping us have confidence in the medical system in this country.

but then again, apparently, people are still seeing him.

the court of public opinion seems to work in the usa. except in this case.

of course, i lost my father to inept medical care in this country, too.
 
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vncwilliam said:
whatever the other fans don't get..one thing is for sure, you're not helping us have confidence in the medical system in this country.

but then again, apparently, people are still seeing him.

the court of public opinion seems to work in the usa. except in this case.

of course, i lost my father to inept medical care in this country, too.
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Not sure what you want me to say here. I am just giving the reality of things. There are a lot of doctors out there who unjustly have malpractice insurance claims made after them when they did nothing wrong. Some people are lawsuit crazy. Now we have a physician who used a sedative that resulted in patient death.

At this time, he has not been proven guilty of anything. They took away his right to give those types of sedatives which knock people out. He has not had any other issues and has been practicing medicine a while. I don't know what people expect here. The court in this country says you are innocent until proven guilty.

I am very sorry about your father.
 
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