If he requested something that was necessary for his medical services and did not get it from AEG, then his obligation was to go to Michael and say that either Michael needed to provide the equipment or that Murray could not provide the services. Murray should not have been providing any "dangerous medical services" without the proper equipment. Who would have paid for "life-saving medical equipment" for a man who appeared healthy and not in a life-endangered situation? I wonder what possible explanation he would have given for needing such. He probably came off as sounding crazy and stuff like this is probably why a contract was never signed by either Michael or AEG. I still think that it is interesting that Michael never signed a version of a contract if he supposedly wanted Murray.
So, do the emails then indicate that AEG knew what "dangerous medical services" Murray was providing? So, does Murray admit that he was providing medical services without the proper equipment so that is what led to Michael's death?
Oxman would be so much better off using this in front of the medical boards of Nevada, Texas, and California as evidence that indicates serious lacking of medical judgment that indicates the need for Murray's license to be withdrawn. He continues to help shift blame from Murray before a trial even starts.
Okay a question that's bugging me - How does Oxman got access to those emails between Murray and the AEG?
I would think/hope that the DA has these in his possession. And if so, I'm sure they were going towards showing guilt with the criminal charges. They aren't going to publicly lay out their case until necessary.Why do we first heard about this now?
seems to me murray wasnt going to london. excuses by AEG saying it was rare for a doc to go on tour with a singer. yeah right. i want to know if a visa had been asked for for murray.
and oxmans helping the defence again making it look like murray cared and it was AEG fault. yet this machine was for the tour not when he was putting crap into mj.
joe or oxman dont care, let murray get off aslong as they get some money
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gvcLH28ub3AyGjplQ256FNiOT6CQD9GCQ2RO2
LOS ANGELES — Documents obtained by The Associated Press show that Michael Jackson's doctor requested but never received resuscitation equipment and a medical assistant, from the concert promoter organizing the singer's London shows.
Besides the CPR machine, Murray also asked for saline, catheters, needles and a gurney.
No this is what Murray asked for to treat Michael when he was in London it had nothing to do with Michael's health which we all know now was fine. Murray it seems wanted AEG to get this stuff because he did not want to buy it I mean asking them to buy your needles? You are the doctor you buy it
And that could be one of the reasons why this contract was not signed.
Don't you just find it odd that Michael had not signed his contract yet?
Yes, it is very strange that Michael and AEG did not sign, but Murray continued there without a signed contract. This is another obscure point of this story. :scratch:Don't you just find it odd that Michael had not signed his contract yet?
we need a medical expert here
I wonder if they thought those equipments for some kind of "better safe then sorry" type of emergency equipment request
what I'm trying to say is did they know what Murray was doing at home and were these equipments related to that
or
did they think that if those were for concerts such as if Michael collapsed
well imo and from what ive read etc. murray as he was a cardiologist was hired incase anything went wrong. hence why he asked for the equipment that he did.i would think AEG would think as you say it was a case of better be safe than sorry. if you are hiring a cardiologist they arent much use without resusitation equipment.the cathewe need a medical expert here
I wonder if they thought those equipments for some kind of "better safe then sorry" type of emergency equipment request
what I'm trying to say is did they know what Murray was doing at home and were these equipments related to that
or
did they think that if those were for concerts such as if Michael collapsed
I know. :smilerolleyes: I posted just to remember this fact. OK?????
Murray's contract was not signed. The contract was found in the car at Murray (that was at the home of Michael) unsigned. No one has signed. Does anyone remember that?
Contract: Jackson doc requested lifesaving gear
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY and THOMAS WATKINS (AP)
The request was later mentioned in Murray's contract. The language stated AEG "shall provide Dr. Murray for his use during the term with medical equipment requested by Dr. Murray to assist him in performing the services as approved by (AEG)."
The equipment is described as a "portable cardio pulmonary resuscitation unit ('CPR Machine'), saline, catheters, needles, a gurney and other mutually approved medical equipment necessary for the Services."
The complaint states Murray signed the document a day before Michael Jackson's death.
An e-mail sent to Murray during the negotiations explained a delay in the contract's drafting because it was a "rare event" for a physician to be hired to care for a singer on tour.
E-mails also show the contract was still being reworked two days before Jackson's death, which happened a week before he was to travel to London for the "This Is It" shows
we need a medical expert here
I wonder if they thought those equipments for some kind of "better safe then sorry" type of emergency equipment request
what I'm trying to say is did they know what Murray was doing at home and were these equipments related to that
or
did they think that if those were for concerts such as if Michael collapsed
well imo and from what ive read etc. murray as he was a cardiologist was hired incase anything went wrong. hence why he asked for the equipment that he did.i would think AEG would think as you say it was a case of better be safe than sorry. if you are hiring a cardiologist they arent much use without resusitation equipment.the cathe
Agreei dont believe for one minute that AEG or anyone else knew what was going on at night and the usage of diprivan. its not something mj would go around telling ppl.as they would say WTH u doing.
Catheters in the States (someone correct me if I'm wrong) are our equivalent of cannulas ie thin plastic tubes that are inserted into veins to allow intravenous administration of fluids and other drugs if needed, not just propofol, so a reasonable request in my view.the catheters etc though were obviously going to be used in connection to the diprivan. although wold you (AEG be asking why do u want those for. its kinda obvious in the normal sense.
i thought they were talking about catherters interms of the ones mj was wearing on the 25th. ie so he wouldnt wet himself while under. do they mean something else?
i guess. i cant think of any other reason.but stuff like that would be available and at a venue anyway. kinda strange to request it. but like u say u dont need it to adminsiter so thats really your only other option.but its like hes asking for it for personal useand a gurney. it doesn't seem like it would be a needed thing to administer propofol at a home setting. It looks like it was to get someone off stage etc.
Would you agree?