Where did this came from? / Love letter from Michael to????

[MJJLaugh]

Noone thought of the possiblity that this letter was never sent, sometimes we write things but they remain with us, may be we change our minds, etc... may be this letter was on Michael's property, and someone found it and decided to show it... May be that woman does not even know... i think this is the strongest theory


Oh and one thing, i dont see this as an intrusion to his privacy, this is something that is a tresure to me, i, as a fan of his genius want to know him all i can, and its natural, because i admire him, and im not the only one, geniuses are always looked up to, people wants to know about them, not because of curiosity, but as an investigation, so we as Michael said can dissect to know a bit more and then learn from them (with some people is just plain curiosity ,i dont deny that of course!),

Like Michael use to read many biographies of the greats HE admired, was Michael an intruder because of that??? I DONT THINK SO.

I agree that it could be a love letter never sent ( or a very good forgery).

Especially since I read "Breaking Free" yesterday, from "Dancing the Dream":


Breaking Free (written by Michael Jackson)

All this hysteria, all this commotion
Time, space, energy are just a notion
What we have conceptualized we have created
All those loved, all those hated

Where is the beginning, where's the end
Time's arrow, so difficult to bend
Those broken promises, what they meant
Those love letters, never sent

**DANCING THE DREAM by Michael Jackson**
(published 1992)

But maybe it's just a coincidence that I happened to read this and it made me think of this love letter.

( I registered at the mjplace.net where the jpg was found, to see if I can find out more there, but my computer registers errors when I try to go there. Will let you all know if I find more information there - Sincerely, Sherlock Holmes).

 

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

I agree that it could be a love letter never sent ( or a very good forgery).

Especially since I read "Breaking Free" yesterday, from "Dancing the Dream":


Breaking Free (written by Michael Jackson)

All this hysteria, all this commotion
Time, space, energy are just a notion
What we have conceptualized we have created
All those loved, all those hated

Where is the beginning, where's the end
Time's arrow, so difficult to bend
Those broken promises, what they meant
Those love letters, never sent

**DANCING THE DREAM by Michael Jackson**
(published 1992)

But maybe it's just a coincidence that I happened to read this and it made me think of this love letter.

( I registered at the mjplace.net where the jpg was found, to see if I can find out more there, but my computer registers errors when I try to go there. Will let you all know if I find more information there - Sincerely, Sherlock Holmes).

Yeah, thanks for reminding us of this poem and this particular part "Those Love Letters, never sent"

I really think this is the case, may be he wrote many love letters and many were never sent....this could be one of many....

 

[ForeverKOP]

Here's an analysis of this note I got from michealjackson.com -

I really hate to do this, but its SO clear who this thing is/was about.*



To take her love away means he at one time HAD it. "The love that SAVED me". (Now, what was it that one girl always said she had tried, but failed to ultimately do?)*
Bonded us? Heaven has? God & marriage. When you marry you bond yourself to your spouse
Misery until..... (I bet that obscured line references 'until I married you' or something close to it. Q: What did Michael say when Oprah Winfrey asked him "We would like to know whether or not there is possibility that you are going to marry one day and have children?" A: "I would feel that my life is incomplete if I do not.")
All these years...etc.: What did Michael openly say he longed for for most of his life? Somebody to love, a wife & children. He wanted to give (LOVE) but now he's only wanting to get (LOVE) from ONE person- the one person who won't give it to him anymore.
He followed her even though she HURT HIS SOUL & CONFUSED his MIND: think about what's in those Schmuley Boteach tapes...think about their public involvement in 1997 & 1998...
I allowed you to take possession... He's saying he shared ALL of himself with her
In return i LOVED OBEYED & HONORED you... To love, honor & obey is a phrase in MARRIAGE VOWS.
...In ways I thought were impossible... (Hello? Do I need to spell that out? Who before or after her did he give that much of himself to OPENLY? Publicly?)
I SAW (past tense, ppl...) and STILL (stay with him here) see you as my SOUL MATE as my WIFE & as the MOTHER of my 4th child (oh, for the love of God, why can't ya'll see this is about Lisa Marie Presley?!)


This was obviously written to a past love- a GREAT love- that hurt him
Someone he couldn't seem to STOP loving even THOUGH she hurt him
Someone he had once shared all of his soul with & now couldn't seem to share in the same way with anyone else
Someone who he wanted to be the mother of his children...but wasn't. So, what about #4? Can you give me a #4?*
Someone who he believed he had had a soul mate connection with
Someone whose presence made him at one time forget all the bad things that occurred before them
Someone who confused & hurt him, but he still in spite of, loved completely
Someone he made vows to before God
Someone who gave him love & then took it away.


I hate to psychoanalyze Michael's sh^t, but come on, girls, its right there in front of you. :lol: He might not have wanted to love her all those years later (IF I had to guess, I'd reason he wrote this during his trial), but he's admitting he has no control over what's still in his heart.

Heartbreaking, but insightful as to what kind of a loving & forgiving person he was, innit?

And another thing: No WONDER she's so messed up in the head now that he's gone. If THIS letter perhaps went undelivered, IMAGINE THE ONES SHE DID GET?

Hmmm.....very convincing..(IMO)

 

[Ashtanga]

:smilerolleyes:

 

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

I dont know about that analysis

 

[SimplyMagic]

IF this letter is real, it has nothing to do with Lisa Marie.......she NEVER inspired those feelings in Michael! (sorry to burst your bubble).

 

[xthunderx2]

IF this letter is real, it has nothing to do with Lisa Marie.......she NEVER inspired those feelings in Michael! (sorry to burst your bubble).

well I am not a huge lisa fan by any means..I didn't think she did either...but..how do we know that she didn't??......He looked so happy when he was with her though....and all I can say is that..if this letter was for her..she is an idiot...she broke his heart...she didn't deserve him.:no:

 

[prettygirlmj]

I don't think this letter is about Lisa...Michael had many women in his life. It wasn't just Lisa.

 

[Ohood]

I don't think this letter is about Lisa...Michael had many women in his life. It wasn't just Lisa.

true...agian IF this letter is real which i highly doubt!

 

[Ohood]

it could be also Debbie
he married her(In return i LOVED OBEYED & HONORED you) , he was in misery until his kids were born,(he said his only regret in life that he did not have them earlier i.e. with Debbie !!!
Also,she was his nurse and friend then wife for 30 years (He's saying he shared ALL of himself with her, All these years,In ways I thought were impossible ) he was telling her the details of his first marriage and things he did not tell his mother at that time!

who saved MJ is the woman who brought him his kidswhen he was desprate and was about to die within 15 minutes in 95 , and she breaked through all the threats she got from Sneddon team to help him during the lowest point in his life 005 !

(i saw you and still see you as my soul mate and wife): may be when Tom Mz. asked Debbie what does MJ mean to you she said he is my friend,,,so Michael said you are more than a friend you are my wife and my soul mate and if i'm going to have a fourth child it will be with u again !

 

[Lucilla]

I don't think this letter is about Lisa...Michael had many women in his life. It wasn't just Lisa.

shhhh! The asexual brigade is watching!

 

[JMie]

I dont know about that analysis

it's not really an analysis... lol. it's just someone's opinion posted on KOP

 

[HumanNatur3]

Whoever that letter was for...she is one lucky lady! I hope that Michael got to tell her his feelings for her. Who is she? Guess the mystery continues...

 

[HIStory]

I don't think it's about Lisa and I agree with the person who said she never inspired those feelings in Michael. Why do I think so? How many love songs there are on History written by Michael? That's right. Zero! (YANA was written by R. Kelly).

But that it is about Debbie is even less believable. Michael was never in love with Debbie, that's painfully obvious. It was a business arrangement to have kids. Sorry to burst that bubble too.

 

[JMie]

I don't think it's about Lisa and I agree with the person who said she never inspired those feelings in Michael. Why do I think so? How many love songs there are on History written by Michael? That's right. Zero! (YANA was written by R. Kelly).

I don't think this letter was about Lisa either, but as for what feelings Lisa inspired in Michael... Have you seen that painting with Michael as a knight on a white horse and Lisa as his lady. I think it's obvious, a man would not buy a painting like that just for anyone...

 

[HIStory]

I don't think this letter was about Lisa either, but as for what feelings Lisa inspired in Michael... Have you seen that painting with Michael as a knight on a white horse and Lisa as his lady. I think it's obvious, a man would not buy a painting like that just for anyone...

I think Michael liked Lisa and was attracted to her, but I don't think he was madly in love with her. It's just my opinion.

 

[JMie]

I think Michael liked Lisa and was attracted to her, but I don't think he was madly in love with her. It's just my opinion.

ok, I won't argue, although I don't agree. :shakehands:

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

From another forum:

y did you take away your love, the same love that made me unable to speak and made me forget my manners, the love that saved me?
Tell me, did I come to short? Wasn't I enough? Have I done or said something wrong?
I believe in miracles and (black line) angels. I know you escaped through heaven's gates to enlighten me.
I believe in faith, deep inside I feel that nature has bounded us.
I have seen nothing but misery in my life until (black line)
All those years I have been seeking to give while I only desire now to receive from you.
Your heart commanded me to follow while my soul was hurt and my mind confused.
I allowed you to take possesion of my feelings. In return, I loved, obeyed and honoured you beyond words.
I revealed myself to you in ways from which I thought they were impossible.
I saw and still see you as my soulmate, as my wife and as the mother of my fourth child.

it's a newspaper article, claiming to have spoken with a previous girlfriend of Michael, who could "prove" this with a love letter
The title is We're getting the facts right. Is this the prove that J**o was not gay?
Former girlfriend shows proof.

The writer asks why she comes forward while she wants to remain anonymous.
She tells she is tired of the lies and the filthy press. She wants the world to see and know Michael for who he really was. She is not looking for publicity or money.
She tells he always was a loving person, very sweet, always concerned, nervous type, cared for and wanted to save the entire world.
She refused to answer to intimate questions concerning their relationship, if they had sex etc.
She says people who accused him from all these bad things should go straight to prison or hell.
She says they broke him, hurt him so much, he was lost when she met him the first time. He feared to trust.
She also tells about how much he loved the fans, how much they meant to Michael, how much he talked about the fans and how he missed the fans during the years he was gone. Then she talks about Michael and children, that he lived for children. There is also a part about Neverland. She never went there. She never asked Michael to go there with her. She did view pictures of Neverland from before the accusations.

That is the article in short. No much news.
Next weekend is part 2 of the story and they promise the continue of the letter!
At the end it says that the lady refused money for the interview and her name and intimate details in the letter have been removed to keep her anonymity.

 

[moodyblue97]

Don´t know what to think about this. It could be a poem. Anyway, this woman broke his heart, he wasn´t happy and he was lonley. Hard as it´s sounds... So saying "I´m so happy for him, "I´m so happy he was in love", "I´m so glad he found someone", "I´m so happy knowing he wasn´t alone" ???
I mean...did you read the letter at all? He´s sad and unhappy. His love for this woman is unanswered.

And as someone else said, strange we can´t access the article anywhere.

And... from another forum. "anyone thinking about the nanny? Grace is someone who he saw as his wife according to people who worked for him, they had their ups and downs. This letter could be to her"

Grace??? Have mercy...

 

[JMie]

His love for this woman is unanswered.

we don't know that. perhaps she read the letter and ran back to him. that's of course, if the letter is not fake. I personally think it's probably real.. but it's strange that no one saw the actual publication in a paper. I mean Michael's fans are everywhere, someone should have noticed and written about it somewhere online as soon as such a paper hit the stand.

 

[xthunderx2]

it could be also Debbie
he married her(In return i LOVED OBEYED & HONORED you) , he was in misery until his kids were born,(he said his only regret in life that he did not have them earlier i.e. with Debbie !!!
Also,she was his nurse and friend then wife for 30 years (He's saying he shared ALL of himself with her, All these years,In ways I thought were impossible ) he was telling her the details of his first marriage and things he did not tell his mother at that time!

who saved MJ is the woman who brought him his kidswhen he was desprate and was about to die within 15 minutes in 95 , and she breaked through all the threats she got from Sneddon team to help him during the lowest point in his life 005 !

(i saw you and still see you as my soul mate and wife): may be when Tom Mz. asked Debbie what does MJ mean to you she said he is my friend,,,so Michael said you are more than a friend you are my wife and my soul mate and if i'm going to have a fourth child it will be with u again !

I dont think its Debbie either for the reason that..after Debbie had Paris she was in such bad shape that she couldn't/didn't want to have anymore children ..if you remember.

 

[xthunderx2]

we don't know that. perhaps she read the letter and ran back to him. that's of course, if the letter is not fake. I personally think it's probably real.. but it's strange that no one saw the actual publication in a paper. I mean Michael's fans are everywhere, someone should have noticed and written about it somewhere online as soon as such a paper hit the stand.

I agree with this....someone somewhere surely knows about this letter...fake or not..someone knows. This is another mystery....

 

[Lorraine]

IF this letter is real, it has nothing to do with Lisa Marie.......she NEVER inspired those feelings in Michael! (sorry to burst your bubble).

Can someone try to explain to me, Because I just don't understand.. How anyone can make such a statement? The only person that would know this Is Michael himself, I really just don't get how fans ( Some fans ) feel they are Michael's voice in such subjects.. when in reality you wouldn't really have a clue how he felt, about anyone.... JMO

 

[liliyyy]

Can someone try to explain to me, Because I just don't understand.. How anyone can make such a statement? The only person that would know this Is Michael himself, I really just don't get how fans ( Some fans ) feel they are Michael's voice in such subjects.. when in reality you wouldn't really have a clue how he felt, about anyone....

Very,very good comment!

 

[Ashtanga]

 

[Ape]

Could be many things. Could be from him. Could have been unsent but one thing it isn't is the whole story. It's just a story from some point in time. This isn't a man who has given up. It's a man who is fighting for love. I can't see any woman who cares about love able to walk away from that.

 

[Ashtanga]

This isn't a man who has given up. It's a man who is fighting for love. I can't see any woman who cares about love able to walk away from that.

:wub:

 

[Ohood]

I dont think its Debbie either for the reason that..after Debbie had Paris she was in such bad shape that she couldn't/didn't want to have anymore children ..if you remember.

this was a fake interview in the Dailymail...many fans confirmed it was fake and in the 2003 interview she never mentioned anything about her being unable to have more kids she said it was fun and lovely experience,, the reason was that the media made horrible stories about her and there was alot of stress when she was alone in US and MJ overseas doing his shows, that's why she find it difficult to carry on...she wanted to save her lfie and give MJ his time to enjiy being a father away from the media stress.

 

[ginvid]

:smilerolleyes:

Ashtanga, I love you. :wub:

I don't know why people still want to believe Lisa was the love of Mj's life and he loved no one else after her more than he loved her. I believed he probably did love her very much at one time. But, I for one would bet a thousand this letter is not about her. I really believe it is about someone we do not know.

If MJ wanted Lisa later, he could have had her. He had moved on romantically. Anyone who says this is about her automatically sinks their whole theory. I am not convinced. I am not even moved.

I am just happy he found someone he loved. And maybe it wasn't delivered because there was no need. Maybe they were together. Who Knows what MJ's state of mind was when he wrote this. It is impossible to tell.

For someone to be hurt so much yet continually open himself up yet again to being hurt yet again, really makes me wish he found someone who finally returned to him what he gave out 10 fold.:angel:

 

[ginvid]

No, she never said that she was Michael's lover or they were a couple, she was talking about herself and her boyfriend. He left her when she was pregnant.

She did say they slept together, twice.