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Update: Behind the Scenes on Jan 28th 8PM ET OWN Channel / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Will you watch the Oprah interview

  • Yes

    Votes: 87 70.7%

  • No I don't feel right about watching

    Votes: 36 29.3%
  • Total voters
    123
  • Poll closed .
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AllForLove said:
:bugeyed do you really think that ? :mello:
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randy didnt save anyones life..mez was the lawyer who did the work.mark geragos is a fine lawyer and assertions cant be made that mj would have been convicted if geragos stayed in charge. anyway as i said it was cochrane that mentioned mez

Randy did'nt seem to have a problem with Janet being interviewed by Oprah, but he does seem to have issues with his Mother and Father being interviewed by her, why is that?
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cause janet is best buddies with randy and ran with the memo of mj the druggie brother which no doubt came from him as friedman has mentioned.
 
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I think we are discussing two separate things.

yaazgurl said:
Who said Katherine and Joe can't be criticized by fans?
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Taj did at least for Katherine. I'm saying that it's too much to ask from fans if their own son chooses to criticize them on a public platform such as twitter.

My whole issue with Randy is that he fuels a lot of controversy.


his buddies on twitter are claiming it was taj who leaked those photos taken from inside the house after tajs comment in his twitter.
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I checked my tweets and I don't see anything new from Randy about Taj or about anything.
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Randy didn't say anything about Taj or pictures but there are some fans (with close communications with Karen, Oxman, Randy, Joe etc) hinting that Taj was the one that sold the photos based on a inside family source.
 
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My whole issue with Randy is that he fuels a lot of controversy.
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he does it on purpose hes as suttle as a brick
 
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I don't really care why Randy is doing what he is doing THIS TIME, because all I want right now is for people to know who Oprah is and what she did to Michael and how false this whole thing is from her. I want her to know that we know, that many people konw and really don't like her for it. Now I know she probably wont know and don't care, but as long as someone, even if it's Randy, puts it out there and some media gets hold of it, fine by me. Because right now, Oprah is geting away with all the stuff she did and people think that's just her being sweet and nice as always, without knowing who she really is.
 
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Indra said:
I don't really care why Randy is doing what he is doing THIS TIME, because all I want right now is for people to know who Oprah is and what she did to Michael and how false this whole thing is from her. I want her to know that we know, that many people konw and really don't like her for it. Now I know she probably wont know and don't care, but as long as someone, even if it's Randy, puts it out there and some media gets hold of it, fine by me. Because right now, Oprah is geting away with all the stuff she did and people think that's just her being sweet and nice as always, without knowing who she really is.
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I feel the same way. For once, i'm ok with Randy running his mouth. Someone needs to call Oprah out.
 
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ivy said:
I think we are discussing two separate things.



Taj did at least for Katherine. I'm saying that it's too much to ask from fans if their own son chooses to criticize them on a public platform such as twitter.

My whole issue with Randy is that he fuels a lot of controversy.


It would have been great if you had quoted Elusive's whole post that Randy was going off on Taj on twitter. That's what I was responding to and that was false. If you are assuming that the family source of these fans is Randy that's a leap in my opinion but some people (not specifically directed at you) will point to anything to insinuate things about Randy. And its already been shown who most likely leaked the photos on another board.

Randy didn't say anything about Taj or pictures but there are some fans (with close communications with Karen, Oxman, Randy, Joe etc) hinting that Taj was the one that sold the photos based on a inside family source.
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Randy did not start this controversy and like I said anything he said would have been used against him. This was how many pages before Randy even responded? And he was blamed how many times for setting up the interview? His name was just injected the same way some insinuated that this was Joe's doing. Like I said, its promoted who can be criticized at all costs and who shouldn't be at any costs and there is something wrong with that.

It would have been great if you had quoted Elusive's whole post that Randy was going off on Taj on twitter. That's what I was responding to and that was false. If you are assuming that the family source of these fans is Randy that's a leap in my opinion but some people (not specifically directed at you) will point to anything to insinuate things about Randy. And its already been shown who most likely leaked the photos on another board.

I completely agree Indra and Angie. It shouldn't matter which Jackson is coming from. Randy correctly addressed the issue and put it out there exactly what Oprah did and the some in the media are reporting that. If people want to discredit it because its coming from him then they are fueling their own controversy.

Edit. More thoughts on the actual interview. Katherine and Joe may have the best intentions about getting the truth out about Michael but if Oprah has her own agenda she is the one who will be doing the editing and interjecting and their point may not get across at all. That's my concern. We saw it with Bashir and hopefully Oprah will take the high road but I'm not holding my breath for her. Hopefully, the Jacksons took a page from Michael's book and taped Oprah while she was taping them. On another note, maybe if the criticism reaches Oprah's ears she'll think twice about interjecting any bias.
 
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I know it's not acceptable, in this forum, to criticize Michael's family members but the truth can't be denied; what Randy did to Michael during the last 10 years is, in black and white, disgusting. Even the likes of Diane Dimond and Nancy (Dis)grace have been better to Michael than Randy. Starting in 2003 when the little brother wormed his way into Michael's good graces by faking sympathy, by acting as if he was a good, loving and caring sibling who just wanted to help. Michael, being naive, falled in his trap and believed Randy genuinely cared about his welfare....just to realize, 2 years later, that his brother had done exactly the contrary of what he thought he was doing. That must have been one of the biggest facades he may have ever faced. Your bother is very nice to you and acts as if your welfare was important to him. You believe him, you believe he just wants to help just to realize, years later, that he was, in your back, acting as your biggest enemy.


Yaazgurl; I suggest you stop living in your Jackson bubble. You are allowed to love Randy. However, you are NOT allowed to dismiss everything the man did to his own flesh and blood while claiming person X, Z or Y is lying in regards to him. I'm getting sick of it and, even though the staff will never protect the ones who criticize the family even if a thousand facts are presented, I'll start reporting you.

It's because of people like you that great posters like Shimar, Williamorange, Lol007, Oceangirl, Snowhite and so on aren't in this board anymore. They dared to destroy your delusion with the truth.
 
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pilinlim said:
Yaazgurl; I suggest you stop living in your Jackson bubble. You are allowed to love Randy. However, you are NOT allowed to dismiss everything the man did to his own flesh and blood while claiming person X, Z or Y is lying in regards to him. I'm getting sick of it and, even though the staff will never protect the ones who criticize the family even if a thousand facts are presented, I'll start reporting you.

It's because of people like you that great posters like Shimar, Williamorange, Lol007, Oceangirl, Snowhite and so on aren't in this board anymore. They dared to destroy your delusion with the truth.
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LOL. This has to be a joke. And this is extremism. Who said I loved Randy? That's the problem with some people. They can't see any good in a person because of some bad decisions. I support Randy on this and I've stated where in this thread I disagree with him. He is not perfect neither does he have to be to be right on something. Why you can't see that is beyond me but that's your problem. You still shouldn't be allowed to spread rumor about him when there is a clear indication you are wrong. And yes, I will report you in the future whether or not that get results. And you are free to report me but for what? For saying Randy is not an evil person? LOL. There are Jacksons I don't like. I don't spam the thread about them but I can give them credit where its due. I think that's balanced.

As far as your friends who are no longer here that you agree with, their being banned has nothing to do with me or my delusion as you call it. LOL.

Edit. And for the record, when I initially warned you about what could happen is was for the precise reason that I had seen it before and didn't want to see you go in that direction. However you have your own agenda concerning the Jacksons as you stated to me so no if something happens it has nothing to do with my "delusions".
 
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yaazgurl said:
LOL. This has to be a joke. And this is extremism. Who said I loved Randy? That's the problem with some people.
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The delusion prevails.

The continuous dismission of his moral challenging actions points in that direction. And, if that is a problem, I can, for instance, give you some advice: it is not mine.
They can't see any good in a person because of some bad decisions.
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Here's the problem I'm talking about. Well, actually, one of the problems; the perfect quote where delusion and dismissive behaviour have a, shall we say, curious fusion. "Some bad decisions"? Some? Do you even KNOW what Randy has been doing to Michael, as a person and a character, since 2003?

Hell, let's even forget his persistent "evil" (as you put it) actions against one of his siblings.
How can anyone defend a lazy sex addict who abandoned and abused his own children and who paid for more abortions than any B rated pornstar is, as simple as this, beyond me. Unless, obviously, your morals and values are turned upside down. In that case, I completely understand your love for Randy. Because it is love.

If it talks like a duck, walks like a duck...

I support Randy on this and I've stated where in this thread I disagree with him. He is not perfect neither does he have to be to be right on something. Why you can't see that is beyond me but that's your problem.
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Well, Randy sure as hell is not perfect: we do agree on this matter.

The question that is beyond you and that will always be beyond your fandom is the following: is he right on this? The answer is no. He is not. If he despises Oprah so much why did he wait so much time to do what he did? Why didn't he do so when Janet was interviewd by the object of his hate? Well, the answer is here for everybody to see. But some don't want to.

You still shouldn't be allowed to spread rumor about him when there is a clear indication you are wrong. And yes, I will report you in the future whether or not that get results. And you are free to report me but for what? For saying Randy is not an evil person? LOL. There are Jacksons I don't like. I don't spam the thread about them but I can give them credit where its due. I think that's balanced.
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Indication that I'm wrong?! The only one who is wrong here is you. Randy did not just try to sell the ATV catalog as you so firmly stated in another post while defending him in a truly delusional way. Randy made TOO MANY mistakes not just "some", unless, and you can call me redundant, your values are not the same as most people's. Randy did not "save Michael's life" and he, certainly, is not a decent person. If someone is lying, then that someone is you.

Yaazgurl, many are getting tired of your constant invention of "positive facts" about him. And that is exactly why I'll start reporting on you. In order to defend a family member you invent some "evidence" while claiming another post is lying. Too hard?

Again: people like me don't just attack the family because we're big, bad meanies. We do so because it gives us reasons in a silver plate.
 
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Randy is only a brother. He is a close relative to Michael but his opinion in this situation has zero value compared to Katherine's choice. Katherine is Michael's mother and this is more than enough to trust her.
 
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pilinlim said:
The delusion prevails.

The continuous dismission of his moral challenging actions points in that direction. And, if that is a problem, I can, for instance, give you some advice: it is not mine.


Here's the problem I'm talking about. Well, actually, one of the problems; the perfect quote where delusion and dismissive behaviour have a, shall we say, curious fusion. "Some bad decisions"? Some? Do you even KNOW what Randy has been doing to Michael, as a person and a character, since 2003?

Hell, let's even forget his persistent "evil" (as you put it) actions against one of his siblings.
How can anyone defend a lazy sex addict who abandoned and abused his own children and who paid for more abortions than any B rated pornstar is, as simple as this, beyond me. Unless, obviously, your morals and values are turned upside down. In that case, I completely understand your love for Randy. Because it is love.

If it talks like a duck, walks like a duck...



Well, Randy sure as hell is not perfect: we do agree on this matter.

The question that is beyond you and that will always be beyond your fandom is the following: is he right on this? The answer is no. He is not. If he despises Oprah so much why did he wait so much time to do what he did? Why didn't he do so when Janet was interviewd by the object of his hate? Well, the answer is here for everybody to see. But some don't want to.



Indication that I'm wrong?! The only one who is wrong here is you. Randy did not just try to sell the ATV catalog as you so firmly stated in another post while defending him in a truly delusional way. Randy made TOO MANY mistakes not just "some", unless, and you can call me redundant, your values are not the same as most people's. Randy did not "save Michael's life" and he, certainly, is not a decent person. If someone is lying, then that someone is you.

Yaazgurl, many are getting tired of your constant invention of "positive facts" about him. And that is exactly why I'll start reporting on you. In order to defend a family member you invent some "evidence" while claiming another post is lying. Too hard?

Again: people like me don't just attack the family because we're big, bad meanies. We do so because it gives us reasons in a silver plate.
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You are turning this into a personal attack and that is not necessary. You don't know me so don't attempt to analyze my mental state or anything about me. Stay on the subject. And I will not turn this into a personal struggle with you. I think you are highly inappropriate and mix some truth with rumors that no one on here can prove. I think its slander and wrong and no amount of personal attacks by you or anyone is going to change my viewpoint.
 
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pilinlim come on now..You don't have to start calling people here 'delusional' just because they don't agree with you. I think Yaazgurl is trying to stay neutral to this whole thing..Which is fine, you have to look at things from all angles I feel...but comon now, let's just chill out everyone
 
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Tsukiji said:
pilinlim come on now..You don't have to start calling people here 'delusional' just because they don't agree with you. I think Yaazgurl is trying to stay neutral to this whole thing..Which is fine
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I don't see anything neutral in her posts. You, as a JFam lover, obviously do, hence why the word "subjective" exists. And no, I didn't call Yaaz delusional simply because she disagreed with me.

Let the Jackson Family stans attack! Where's Datsymay?
 
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pilinlim said:
I don't see anything neutral in her posts. You, as a JFam lover, obviously do, hence why the word "subjective" exists. And no, I didn't call Yaaz delusional simply because she disagreed with me.

Let the Jackson Family stans attack! Where's Datsymay?
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:lmao:
 
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ivy said:
Randy didn't say anything about Taj or pictures but there are some fans (with close communications with Karen, Oxman, Randy, Joe etc) hinting that Taj was the one that sold the photos based on a inside family source.
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I doubt that taj would do such a thing and who ever is saying that maybe covering up themselves.
 
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pilinlim said:
I don't see anything neutral in her posts. You, as a JFam lover, obviously do, hence why the word "subjective" exists. And no, I didn't call Yaaz delusional simply because she disagreed with me.

Let the Jackson Family stans attack! Where's Datsymay?
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How about you do not call her delusional at all? It is not called for. And personal attacks on members are not allowed. If you do not agree with her, that is fine. You've stated the reasons why you disagree, now move on. I think we should get back to the topic at hand.

Can we please do this?
 
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I was trying to look for the picture that someone posted on another board which looks to show the person who may have taken the picture and it looks like a staff member of Oprah's team. Definitely does not look like anyone in the family.
 
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yaazgurl said:
I was trying to look for the picture that someone posted on another board which looks to show the person who may have taken the picture and it looks like a staff member of Oprah's team. Definitely does not look like anyone in the family.
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The family knew that the Oprah 's team took pictures.

Anyway, it's really a pathetic family. Anything to sell a book....

Michael will be very happy. -________-
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
cause janet is best buddies with randy and ran with the memo of mj the druggie brother which no doubt came from him as friedman has mentioned.
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When did Friedman mention this? U got an article or something?
Im not saying its untrue, just curious cuz ive also heard that some believe that Randy was behind all the druggie rumours after MJ took off to Bahrain but Ive never seen/heard Friedman mention this.
 
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You all need to really chill out! If this doesn't happen as of now this thread will be closed until the interview airs, because this is just pointless.
 
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On Thursday On Oparh

FOR THE FIRST TIME: LISA MARIE PRESLEY SPEAKS OUT ABOUT THE DEATH OF EX-HUSBAND MICHAEL JACKSON


october 21, 2010

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In her one and only television interview, Lisa Marie Presley opens up about Michael Jackson, their misunderstood marriage and his tragic death.

TUNE in on OCTOBER 21, 2010 to watch the show!





here is link:http://www.oprah.com/showinfo/Lisa-Marie-Presley-Speaks-Out-About-the-Death-of-Michael-Jackson


 
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I am truly baffled as to why the people why supposedly loved Michael would go on Oprah...first Katherine ..now Lisa Marie....their memories cannot be that short...they all must remember how she made Michael feel...is it they just dont care??....This is what I truly believe. Michael deserves better than this.
 
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xthunderx2 said:
I am truly baffled as to why the people why supposedly loved Michael would go on Oprah...first Katherine ..now Lisa Marie....their memories cannot be that short...they all must remember how she made Michael feel...is it they just dont care??....This is what I truly believe. Michael deserves better than this.
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They don't care about him.

If you want to speak about Mike, you don't go on Oprah.


Next time they will go on Bashir? Diane Dimond? Nancy Grace?

Wonderful.
 
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Maybe we should just wait and see what Katherine and Lisa-Marie actually say before jumping to conclusions. They might actually be trying to do some good. There's no point bashing people and throwing accusations of what they MIGHT say, just wait and see what they do actually say. If it's negative then people have a right to be angry but until then just take into consideration that they might be trying to do some good. We can't judge something before it's actually happened surely?
 
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spoonie said:
Maybe we should just wait and see what Katherine and Lisa-Marie actually say before jumping to conclusions. They might actually be trying to do some good. There's no point bashing people and throwing accusations of what they MIGHT say, just wait and see what they do actually say. If it's negative then people have a right to be angry but until then just take into consideration that they might be trying to do some good. We can't judge something before it's actually happened surely?
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Katherine is his MOTHER and I support anything she does. She will not do any harm to MJ reputation. As far as it comes to Lisa I am not happy to see her talking about their "misunderstood" marriage. It pointless. Lisa has to learn how to keep her problems to herself.
 
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spoonie said:
Maybe we should just wait and see what Katherine and Lisa-Marie actually say before jumping to conclusions. They might actually be trying to do some good. There's no point bashing people and throwing accusations of what they MIGHT say, just wait and see what they do actually say. If it's negative then people have a right to be angry but until then just take into consideration that they might be trying to do some good. We can't judge something before it's actually happened surely?
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In this case, yes, we CAN "judge something before it's actually happened." Primarily the objection isn't only about what they "might say," but that Oprah has disrespected Michael so terribly in the past. She's never apologized. She ran a show about "pedophilia" when the jury was in deliberations! She consistently said she thought Michael was guilty. Given her public forum, her potential for damage was very great. (It still is. . . )

Of all the possible interviewers, she should have been the very LAST choice. Or no choice at all, even better?
 
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