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"One more chance" is all about LMP !

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It just got clear for me that the song "One more chance" is all about Lisa Marie Presley. Michael stilled loved her and wanted her back of course , sad she didnt respond to his love but I really think this song is a love song to her, whar do u guys think ?
 
twinklEE said:
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gosh, U scared me at first, when I didn't notice those 2 words :D
IMO it's not abt Lisa. Even if she says she still loved him, do U think over the years he wouldn't get over her? He's special but still guy, so he'd have dated other girls over the years.
And just a random - OMC was written by R. Kelly ;-)
 
Haha yeah, One More Chance was written by R Kelly not Michael.
 
I actually think that it's quite possible that Michael wrote a song (or songs) inspired by Lisa. After all, she was a huge part of his life.
 
JMie said:
I actually think that it's quite possible that Michael wrote a song (or songs) inspired by Lisa. After all, she was a huge part of his life.
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yeah, I think it's quite possible he wrote songs inspired by more ppl that were part of his life, including Lisa. But as said, it's Kelly's song.
 
The Lost Child said:
yeah, I think it's quite possible he wrote songs inspired by more ppl that were part of his life, including Lisa. But as said, it's Kelly's song.
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yeah, I know :) I didn't mean "One More Chance", just his songs in general :)
 
Yeah I know R. Kelly wrote the song but maybe he sang it for Lisa cuz obviously he stilled had feelings for her back in 2005 and the song is from 2003 so who knows .. its possible its for Lisa cuz I think he really wanted it to work out and missed her.
 
I always wandered if Don't Walk Away was about Lisa-Marie, never really thought of One More Chance being about her before though, but it's kind of interesting to think about.
 
I don't mean to offend but all I wanna say is...

Oh for fucksake!
 
cgrimberg said:
Just because u dont like Lisa doesnt mean its possible the song is for her to give him another chance in love ?
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It's not about whether or not I like her, it's about people holding on to this fantasy just because they want it to be true. You can imagine things to be any way you want them to be. But I will take MJ at his word. When he says he was over her and hardened his heart to her. I am going to believe it. Now you can make them out to be what you want just so they can fit with dream you have of him fawning over her the rest of his life; but, I view things a bit more realistically. Sorry to burst your bubble, but why not for a change read what MJ had to say about her and their relationship. There relationship was not because he did not want it to be.

That's why I say, "No". Now there are other songs that I think she could have inspired. And it is possible they were love songs (He was at one time in love with her afterall). But I do not believe he was struck by her his whole life just waiting for the chance to get back with. That's what she wanted.
 
cgrimberg said:
Just because u dont like Lisa doesnt mean its possible the song is for her to give him another chance in love ?
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The song is not written by MJ therefore its not about Lisa. Unless, he said to R Kelly. Can you write a song for me about Lisa Marie Presley? haha

So yeah, its not about Lisa. Case closed.
 
ginvid said:
It's not about whether or not I like her, it's about people holding on to this fantasy just because they want it to be true. You can imagine things to be any way you want them to be. But I will take MJ at his word. When he says he was over her and hardened his heart to her. I am going to believe it. Now you can make them out to be what you want just so they can fit with dream you have of him fawning over her the rest of his life; but, I view things a bit more realistically. Sorry to burst your bubble, but why not for a change read what MJ had to say about her and their relationship. There relationship was not because he did not want it to be.

That's why I say, "No". Now there are other songs that I think she could have inspired. And it is possible they were love songs (He was at one time in love with her afterall). But I do not believe he was struck by her his whole life just waiting for the chance to get back with. That's what she wanted.
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Thank u lord...Any way last time i heard R.Kelly wrote one more chance for MJ so michael must of beg R.kelly yo i need this song to be for Lisa my only true pride and joy i love her to death do us part to the end of time for ever and ever i will die for her end of story.. I know " i can't let her get away" and Remember the time was about her that was written in mags...
 
haha maybe u guys are right but when mike sang it he maybe had Lisa on his mind cuz why ask Lisa if she stilled loved him back in 2005 when u dont have feeling for her? ... just saying.

I know R. Kelly wrote this song. But Michael maybe told R. Kelly about his feelings for her and wanted it to be a love song or something .. who knows !
 
April 17, 2009

"artists do not release a work very often until it is finished, polished. unreleased work is part of the creative process. most are incomplete ideas."

Michael Jackson

The Journal Of Reflections Of Thought Truth Of Justice Nothing IS Black Or White (c) 1995, 2005, 2009, and 2010.
"Proceeds will be donated to prearranged mutually agreed upon charities"


Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E~~~

God Bless

:angel:
 
Sdeidjs said:
April 17, 2009

"artists do not release a work very often until it is finished, polished. unreleased work is part of the creative process. most are incomplete ideas."

Michael Jackson

The Journal Of Reflections Of Thought Truth Of Justice Nothing IS Black Or White (c) 1995, 2005, 2009, and 2010.
"Proceeds will be donated to prearranged mutually agreed upon charities"


Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E~~~

God Bless

:angel:
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What do u mean by that ? it has nothing to do with this ? haha
 
ginvid said:
It's not about whether or not I like her, it's about people holding on to this fantasy just because they want it to be true. You can imagine things to be any way you want them to be. But I will take MJ at his word. When he says he was over her and hardened his heart to her. I am going to believe it. Now you can make them out to be what you want just so they can fit with dream you have of him fawning over her the rest of his life; but, I view things a bit more realistically. Sorry to burst your bubble, but why not for a change read what MJ had to say about her and their relationship. There relationship was not because he did not want it to be.

That's why I say, "No". Now there are other songs that I think she could have inspired. And it is possible they were love songs (He was at one time in love with her afterall). But I do not believe he was struck by her his whole life just waiting for the chance to get back with. That's what she wanted.
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I'm not posting in the LMP/Oprah thread anymore but I swear when I see your posts it's like you read my mind. It's quite scary. lol I just had to tell you that.
I couldn't agree with this post more.
I knew this stuff was going to happen when I saw the interview. I knew some will now forever believe she was the love of his life and that he died brokenhearted or whatever.
Just wish we would remember his own words more sometimes.
I'm glad not everyone is getting carried away like that.
We don't know what he did in his personal life so let's stop projecting our own ideals/fantasies onto that relationship and his romantic life in general.

Anyway I highly doubt this is about Lisa.
1. It was written by R. Kelly
2. If you listen to the lyrics he is actually saying he is looking for someone new to love him/to make him whole. If it was about Lisa it would have probably been more about "I need you in my life again" instead he talks about searching for someone. Why would he need to search for Lisa? Doesn't make sense to me.

If we want to give a personal view about what this song could be about, I think it's another sign that he moved on. Would make more sense to me when I look at the lyrics.
He was looking for someone else to share his love with (in the song at least).
Maybe that's why he chose the song if we believe he attached a personal meaning to it.
He obviously didn't write it though,like others mentioned it was R.Kelly.
Who knows maybe he just liked the song. He has said before that a lot of people think every song is personal but many times it's not. Those are his own words.
 
^bliss your heart, we want to enjoy these songs with our partners (my boyfriend particulary) and thinking about their problems and love stories can destroy its meaning, for us... the music must stay away from his personal problems!
 
Rock Hill doctor helped saved Michael Jackson's life after 1995 rehearsal collapse...

http://www.heraldonline.com/front/story/1458834.html

Published: Wednesday, Jul. 08, 2009 / Updated: Wednesday, Jul. 08, 2009 07:31 AM
Rock Hill doctor helped saved Michael Jackson's life after 1995 rehearsal collapse

By Andrew Dys, Columnist - adys@heradonline.com

When Dr. William Alleyne II heard about Michael Jackson's death last week while on vacation, this doctor who specializes in lung ailments in Rock Hill turned young again.

In his mind, he was just Bill Alleyne, the young guy who spent money out of his pocket to buy Michael Jackson albums. The guy who became a doctor and took his new bride to Michael Jackson concerts.

“It was an overwhelming sense of sadness,” Alleyne said.

Sure, Bill Alleyne is a Michael Jackson fan like millions. But Dr. William Alleyne had more reason to be sad than most fans. Alleyne said Tuesday, for the first time in 14 years, “I was the doctor who saved Michael Jackson's life.”

In December 1995, Alleyne was the critical care director at Beth Israel North Hospital, on the Upper East Side in New York City across the way from the mayor's Gracie Mansion. He was the guy in charge when one of the nurses told him, “We have Michael Jackson coming here.”

Alleyne didn't believe it then.

“I said, ‘Ha, ha, very funny,'” Alleyne recalled.

He had seen patients who were stars, or spouses of stars, but this was different. Thousands of people started clamoring outside the hospital. The place was turning into bedlam.

“Ten minutes later, they rolled Michael Jackson in on a stretcher,” Alleyne said Tuesday from his Rock Hill office where he's one of the partners at Carolina Pulmonary Physicians. But in 1995, Alleyne was the doctor to the King of Pop. Jackson had collapsed after a rehearsal for an upcoming HBO special at the nearby Beacon Theater.

Alleyne and his wife had seen Jackson before in concert, on television, and now, in 1995, Jackson was waiting, unconscious, for Bill Alleyne to save his life.

“Mr. Jackson was in critical condition,” Alleyne said. “He was dehydrated. He had low blood pressure. He had a rapid heart rate. He was near death.”

Alleyne went from doctor to a star to doctor of a man who could die. Alleyne, an acquaintance of Jackson's doctor at the time who had seen some of that doctor's patients, had been picked personally by that doctor to be the attending physician for Jackson's emergency care. Alleyne gave the order to have the defibrillator ready if needed to treat the abnormal heart rhythm of the most famous entertainer with the best rhythm on Earth.

After about an hour or so that December dusk, Alleyne said he had Jackson stabilized with intravenous fluids and other treatment, and transferred Jackson to intensive care. But in the meantime, the crowd outside had become massive, a mob scene.

“I looked outside the window, and the crowd was shoulder to shoulder, huge, far more than when the mayor's mansion across the street had hosted the pope, the president, even Nelson Mandela,” Alleyne recalled.

And inside the hospital, Alleyne said, “it was absolute pandemonium.”

Jackson's entourage had muscled into intensive care. Alleyne had a brief showdown with one bodyguard who did not want to let Alleyne in the room again after Alleyne had left briefly. Alleyne recalled he said to the bodyguard, “Your boss is dying in there, and I am going in there to save his life. You can be the one who has to say you wouldn't let me in.”

Bill Alleyne walked in and saved Michael Jackson.

But the crush of people inside wasn't over. The entourage of Jackson's then-wife, Lisa Marie Presley, came in. Presley came in, too. Then through the middle of the crowd, another entourage, and Janet Jackson, Michael's sister.

“Here is Janet, drop-dead, stop-the clock gorgeous, and she said, ‘Thank you for taking care of my brother,'” Alleyne recalled.

Alleyne found time to call home. His wife, Cheryl Courtlandt, a physician herself who now is a pediatrician at Levine's Children's Hospital in Charlotte, was home with two small kids.

“I'm gonna be a little late honey,” Alleyne told his wife. “Turn on the news.”

He told his wife Michael Jackson was his patient, and she said to her husband, verbatim, in words Alleyne will never forget: “Well, you take care of Mr. Jackson and hurry home, because I have two kids here and you need to take out the garbage.”

Jackson soon was stable, and Alleyne and Jackson started a doctor/patient relationship similar to all in theory but unlike any relationship Alleyne had ever had in practice. As people were climbing trees to get pictures of inside the hospital, as Jackson's fans sang his songs outside and the world press invaded the sidewalks and street for information about the condition of this most-famous man, Bill Alleyne tried to keep Michael Jackson alive with intravenous food and care.

“Michael Jackson was the most soft-spoken, least demanding guy you would ever want to meet,” Alleyne said. “Everything he said was a whisper. His biggest concern was could he perform.

Alleyne told Jackson no way could he perform anytime soon.

Alleyne had to get permission to release information to Jackson's family. Jackson gave it. Alleyne had to deal with other doctors who came to watch his every move, and a world that wanted information that Alleyne would not give to anybody but those Jackson said to give it to.

After about 72 hours, Alleyne and Jackson's publicists and others realized they had to give a press conference. So Alleyne worked with Jackson's people to go over what could be said, what to stay away from but still tell the truth. Alleyne was blunt with the world, saying Jackson did not have any immune system problems because rumors about AIDS were swirling. He was blunt that Jackson had no drugs in his system.

News accounts from 1995 show Alleyne and his then-partner, Dr. Bob Glennon, talking about Jackson's condition to convince the world that Jackson was, in fact, critically ill.

“Michael Jackson was unconscious when he arrived,” Alleyne said. “I had to make that clear.”

Through the next few days, Alleyne was Jackson's doctor. Other doctors came to watch behind him, but Alleyne said he was not affronted. Having others sets of eyes look at his care and treatment of Jackson was understandable.

Jackson had to do what other patients who are recovering must do, Alleyne said. Walk around, be monitored. Except he had an entourage in the next room.

“After a couple of days, Mr. Jackson told me he needed to get his hair done,” Alleyne remembered. “I told him we had a barber at the hospital.”

Jackson's entourage laughed: A stylist traveled around the world with Jackson and would style those locks right there in intensive care. The makeup crew came in, too.

Near the end of Jackson's hospital stay, he asked Alleyne if he could visit other patients in intensive care. Jackson met one lady, gave her an autographed picture after he prayed with her, and the lady told Alleyne, “I can die now; I prayed with Michael Jackson.”

Alleyne recalled, laughing: “I told Mr. Jackson maybe visiting with people who had suffered heart attacks or other serious problems wasn't such a good idea.”

When Jackson was discharged, Alleyne stayed in the background as the cameras went off and the video was shot. But Jackson asked Alleyne to make house calls for the next three days. Blood pressure checks, pulse, all that stuff. Alleyne was the director of critical care — house calls were not his bag. But Michael Jackson had asked, so Alleyne said yes.

“House calls, to the penthouse of the Four Seasons hotel,” Alleyne said. “He had rented out the entire top two floors.”

In one “moment of weakness,” Alleyne said he almost asked Jackson to teach him how to moonwalk — Jackson's famous trademark dance.

But Alleyne kept it professional with Michael Jackson, as the entourages and the world watched Alleyne's every move.

Finally, about two weeks into this whirlwind relationship, Alleyne told Jackson, “Mr. Jackson, you are stable. I can stop being your doctor and return to being your fan.”

All humble Alleyne asked for was an autographed picture for his kids to have years down the road.

Before Alleyne left the hotel that day, Alleyne recalled Jackson telling him: “Thank you for saving my life.”

Then Jackson told Alleyne he understood how difficult it had been for a black man to get to such a distinguished position within the medical world, that Alleyne's accomplishments were inspiring to Jackson.

“It was very touching,” Alleyne said. “I will never forget that.”

Alleyne never gave an interview since then, never signed any book deals or made a nickel off being Michael Jackson's doctor of almost two weeks. He never spoke to Michael Jackson again.

Alleyne, other than casual conversation with friends, or associates in medicine, or among the people at his medical practice, never told anyone of his time as doctor to the most famous entertainer in the world.

Alleyne's own children, son Douglas and daughter Courtney, only learned of his role when a documentary came out a few years ago that had some of the footage of the news conferences from 1995 in it. There was Bill Alleyne.

“Daddy, are you Michael Jackson's doctor?” his daughter asked.

“I said yes, because I was his doctor,” Alleyne said. “I looked at it as always being his doctor, that I had a professional relationship with Mr. Jackson and would honor that.”

This man with Carolina roots in his family came to Charlotte in 1996, then began practicing medicine in Rock Hill in 1999. He's done what humble doctors do: give some time to reading at schools, volunteered, raised his kids.

The sign outside his Rock Hill medical practice only has his name. There is no mention of Michael Jackson anywhere in the building.

Only now, after Jackson's death, did Alleyne agree to share his remembrances of those days.

Alleyne said that he told his wife, only half-jokingly, that the world spotlight would be on the doctors who had recently been caring for Jackson before his death.

Alleyne said he would be remembered as: “I was the doctor who saved Michael Jackson's life.”

Alleyne has, at night the past few days after seeing patients, watched some coverage of the aftermath of Michael Jackson's death.

“That to this day he is so loved comes as no surprise to me,” Alleyne said. “He was very gracious and kind.”

He understands that there were accusations against Jackson after 1995, but that was not the Michael Jackson Bill Alleyne knew in 1995.

And Tuesday afternoon, as tens of millions, maybe more, watched the memorial service for Jackson from Los Angeles, here's what Bill Alleyne, doctor, did: He saw other patients. He did not watch TV.

He helped a lady with a little bit of cardiopulmonary trouble. Another with asthma. More. Each received Bill Alleyne's full attention, as he had given Michael Jackson his full attention in 1995.

Alleyne saw them all, gave this interview about that two weeks 14 years ago, then went home.

Just like he did for those crazy days in December 1995, when Bill Alleyne was Michael Jackson's doctor.
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the song was written by r kelly has nothing to do with lisa.
 
Dangerous 1991 HIStory said:
It was not written by MJ...
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It's not the matter even if it's not wrote by Michael, he sings it and it's the feeling and the emotions he has with the song who is important - However, I don't think so ... :)

Edit : I think that "Fall again" is more fitting for a "song for Lisa" :D Lyrics are perfect !!
 
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