Update: Alejandra responds /MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

[diana79]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

It also must be difficult that she would have to sign a deal with Howard "The Porn Guy" Mann in order to take care of all of those folks.

Katherine Jackson can LOVE all of her grandchildren from their OWN homes. LOL! I'm sure she loves Marlon, Jackie, Rebbie, and Tito's children also, but none of them live with Katherine.

There is also the fact that THREE of those so-called "children" are now young adults who will or should be out there carving out a future for themselves now.

Realistically, at the age of 80 when a person should be enjoying their golden years, Katherine is basically being forced to take care of adults and their children, when it should be the other way around, in my opinion.

I totally agree. What kind of people would want to cause this much trouble for their 80 year old mother or grandmother? What a disaster.

I really don't understand how such a large and successful family can do this to Katherine. Of course Jermaine and Randy should be taking care of their own kids, but since they are so irresponsible, why can't one of their brothers of sisters step in? What does it always have to be Katherine and Michael taking care of everyone?

Some of the older kids (who are adults now) are in college, so they probably can't afford their own apartments. That doesn't mean that they need to live at Havenhurst, though Why can't they get a student loan and get their own apartments or live in the dorms? Maybe they could live with their dads or an aunt, uncle, or older cousin while they're in school.

Couldn't the Jackson's see that Alejandra would eventually tell everything that she knows, especially since she doesn't have any other income and isn't getting child support from Jermaine and Randy? They can't be surprised by this.

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

Couldn't the Jackson's see that Alejandra would eventually tell everything that she knows, especially since she doesn't have any other income and isn't get child support from Jermaine and Randy?

They probably didn't care, because they figured that "Mom will handle the problem. Mom will protect us."

Leaving them free to move on with their lives, while MOM got stuck having to live with and deal with the mother of their children.

It's really sad, because in a sense, they just DUMPED Alejandra in Katherine's lap and never looked back. Not thinking that "maybe" their mother had other plans for her life AFTER raising her own children.

 

[marebear]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

It's time for them to move on. Things are different now. They can live close by. Katherine is responsible for Michael's children only not the others. They have their parents. Katherine has been generous enough and this woman who had kids with both Randy and Jermaine needs to stop what she is doing. It seems like they have tried to deal with this in quiet way but she isn't moving or understanding the situation. Nothing should jeopardize Katherine's guardianship.

 

[PCR]

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I feel this is so wrong in many ways. First, Mrs. KJ is 80 years old and he shouldn't be going through all the horrible things she is facing. Her family should be supporting her and the kids, but instead of doing so, this Alejandra-multi-kids-Jerm-RAndy fellow keeps getting all the huuugeeeee biggg luxury life of the rich and famous, when they are really nothing buy "somebody's brother/sister-in-law".

Isn't that a shame? The woman is young and healthy, why on earth can't she work? Why can those parents support their kids?

And if that story of the book is true... really... what a shame of a person that Alejandra would be.

She really won the lottery for the easy life forever getting into that family and the way she is using her children to keep it working.... awwww.... I am so happy I have a little ordinary family.

Leeches all around uncle Michael!!! :no:

Poor MJ3. Hope they have the peace they need, but given the current situation, I wonder if they are even able to sleep and eat and just have any good times

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EDIT: I forgot to say that if KJ asked her to NOT write a book as a payment for she and her kids living the great life for free, KJ had every right in the world to do so. Who needs any more scandals and leeches pretending to give "the truth"? If there were any serious things to be told, she can go to the police and make a claim and certainly move out of the house. But instead of doing so, she refuses to move away and just wants to keep living there while exploding the "Jackson" surname.

How covenient!! -_-

 

[Luvursmile]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

Thank you to the Estate, I read this and I instantly felt a sense of relief. While I certainly respect family and the love that Katherine has for all her grandchildren, there comes a time when all adults have to taken responsibility for their lives; parents (Jermaine and Randy) have to take responsibility for their children; it is called growing up. So many have lived off Michael, who has been more than generous to all his family for many, many years, but now his wishes must be respected i.e. his Will, he was very clear that he wants his mother and his babies to be taken care of, the days of free living and free everything should have been over some time ago for all those living at Hayvenhurst, except Katherine and PPB.

As with most things with the Jacksons, nothing is ever easy, you are asked to leave you don't leave, the Estate had no choice. So many obviously feel that they are entitled to live there, to have everything paid for them and you know what, you aren't entitled. As an early poster stated the Estate is the Landlord and all those that don't have legal standing to be there, well you're outta there. Much respect to the Estate for taking this action.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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Estate are trying to squeeze Katherine as much as they can. This is not about Alejandra, this is about something else (not going to say what). I would be glad if Katherine will go to court with this issue because it is her property too. Estate thinks that they can do whatever they want but they cannot press Kat forever because some day they can get themselves into a problem.

You should really stop, as you know nothing more about this situation than the rest of us do. It can't be that every little thing The Estate handlers do, you and others are against simply because you don't like them

Bottomline, Alejandra, Jermaine and Randy are three grown ass people who for years have taken advantage of Michael's generousity. Having your 80 year old mother handle your mess is plain selfish! Michael owned that house and if for some reason he had wanted to move there with his kids you better know that Alejandra and her kids would have to go elsewhere. For all we know, Michael probably did'nt care for all those people chiling back at Hayvenhurst. Sometimes things gotta happen to knock some sense into people.

The game has changed and if some don't want to acknowledge that then its gonna be pure drama for them!

We all know a tell all was around the conner, I would be very surprise if she did not write one.

Before I even saw that info from TMZ I said to myself that a tell-all book could easily be around the corner, no this would'nt surprise me at all if true.

 

[Sophielo]

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In the end of the day they shouldn't be there and shouldn't have to be continuously funded by the Estate. Alejandra is a grown woman, she should be in her own place and Jermaine and Randy should be paying for their own kids. Genevieve is a 21 year old woman as well, she shoudn't be living in a home at her uncle's expense. Michael was always funding his nieces and nephews when he was alive but the Estate don't have to be funding people that shouldn't be there.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

Right on throw these leeches out for good.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

As for those ppl ranting, open your pockets, withdraw money from your savings account and SEND IT TO Leeching ALejandra and her brood if your heart pains so much. DEAD Michael does not owe anyone anything but his own darn children period. And no amount of conspiracy and other fantasies will change this FACT!

 

[Ashtanga]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

In the end of the day they shouldn't be there and shouldn't have to be continuously funded by the Estate. Alejandra is a grown woman, she should be in her own place and Jermaine and Randy should be paying for their own kids. Genevieve is a 21 year old woman as well, she shoudn't be living in a home at her uncle's expense. Michael was always funding his nieces and nephews when he was alive but the Estate don't have to be funding people that shouldn't be there.

1000% agree!!!!!!

Tell-All Book At the Root Of Jackson Family War

20 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson's war with Jermaine/Randy's baby mama Alejandra Jackson is all about a tell-all Alejandra is working on ... sources directly connected with the family and the dispute tell TMZ.

We broke the story ... the Michael Jackson Estate has filed legal papers trying to evict Alejandra and her kids, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte, Randy Jr. and Genevieve from the family home in Encino, which was owned by MJ and now the Estate.

Now TMZ knows what has lead to this legal showdown.

Katherine and her lawyers asked Alejandra and her kids to leave months ago, following the stun gun incident with Jaafar. Alejandra lawyered up, and the Estate put an offer on the table -- the Estate would give her a condo, but in return she'd have to sign a confidentiality agreement and promise, among other things, not to write a tell-all book.

We've learned Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and is in "active negotiations" for a tell-all.

When Alejandra was in Japan last month with her kids, everyone assumed she was going away for good and Katherine temporarily moved out to remodel the house.

But Alejandra came back, moved back in, refused to leave, stalling the remodel.

Sources say Katherine's lawyers called the cops last week to forcibly evict Alejandra, but the police said they couldn't do anything without an eviction order ... which is why the Estate is going to court.

:fear:

 

[CherubimII]

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As for those ppl ranting, open your pockets, withdraw money from your savings account and SEND IT TO Leeching ALejandra and her brood if your heart pains so much. DEAD Michael does not owe anyone anything but his own darn children period. And no amount of conspiracy and other fantasies will change this FACT!

Well said. I thank you ever so much. :agree:
God Bless You, TwinkEE. :angel:

 

[Asedora]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

You should really stop, as you know nothing more about this situation than the rest of us do. It can't be that every little thing The Estate handlers do, you and others are against simply because you don't like them

So I guess you know hell of lot. Explain to me this information pls, if you are so aware what is going on.

Alejandra lawyered up, and the Estate put an offer on the table -- the Estate would give her a condo, but in return she'd have to sign a confidentiality agreement and promise, among other things, not to write a tell-all book.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/07/kathe...ome-eviction-estate-compound-family-home-war/

Why estate are so concerned about her writing this book that much so they even want her to sign a confedentiality agreement? I am kind of curious.

 

[ivy]

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Why estate are so concerned about her writing this book that much so they even want her to sign a confedentiality agreement? I am kind of curious.

well the book could be about MJ's kids (if it's true that she was leaking stories and their pictures - she might be very well writing a book about them). If that's the case estate might seek a confidentiality agreement with anyone that has access to the kids.

 

[Asedora]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

well the book could be about MJ's kids (if it's true that she was leaking stories and their pictures - she might be very well writing a book about them). If that's the case estate might seek a confidentiality agreement with anyone that has access to the kids.

Well it could be but it is not the FACT. just an assumption. The fact is if they want to give her a CONDO just to make her to shut up? What kind of exachange is that? I have a bad feeling about it. Whoa! What is so important could be in that book Estate does not the world to know?

 

[marebear]

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I don't understand what rights this woman has? She doesn't own the property, pays no rent etc. To be honest who cares if she writes a book. She had children with 2 different brothers. After reading what happened to Michael in the pre-hearing nothing is worse than Michael dying and nobody helping him like they should have. Will this work the estate going to court?

 

[Asedora]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

I don't understand what rights this woman has? She doesn't own the property, pays no rent etc. To be honest who cares if she writes a book. She had children with 2 different brothers. After reading what happened to Michael in the pre-hearing nothing is worse than Michael dying and nobody helping him like they should have. Will this work the estate going to court?

Obviosely the Estate cares A LOT if they want to give her a condo.

 

[marebear]

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I don't know why she doesn't take a condo. It's a place to live. It's not like she is being thrown on the street with no where to go. It's not Katherine's responsibility for all these people. Her grandchildren have 2 parents that should be taking care of them. She is responsible for raising Michael's kids. If she is asking her to leave now she should do it and not be difficult. It's not her house.

 

[twinklEE]

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Well it could be but it is not the FACT. just an assumption. The fact is if they want to give her a CONDO just to make her to shut up? What kind of exachange is that? I have a bad feeling about it. Whoa! What is so important could be in that book Estate does not the world to know?

You should be allowed to access the conspiracy section only, during these difficult times.

Use ur mind, the estate does not want that whore to shyte on Michael, her kiss and tell book will be anti Michael Jackson in order make it sell.

 

[Vici]

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The fact is if they want to give her a CONDO just to make her to shut up? What kind of exachange is that? I have a bad feeling about it. Whoa! What is so important could be in that book Estate does not the world to know?

1) My guess is that Katherine dont wanna put them on the street so they are offering a condo to Alejandra. No motives, just a very generous gesture to Alejandra so she and her kids dont have to be homeless. No drama and no motives.

2) Regarding a book, im reading it like you think the Estate are afraid of what Alejandra will possibly say about the estate? We all know what members of the Jackson family think of the estate and they are not afraid to speak their mind as we all have seen, so if Alejandra wanna say something about the estate, go ahead.. nothing we havnt heard before LOL. I guess the confidential agreement is to protect the Jackson family and Michaels children only. They dont want her to run her mouth to the tabloids.

Simple as that.

 

[PCR]

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In my very personal opinion, being MJ3 around these people since their father is gone, means there are plenty of posibilities some of them migh try to profit on the kids. Whatever is written about the ones around MJ3 and Katherine is just another way to profit on Michael Jackson and the fans, who sometimes are so willing to know that just jump into whatever has the "Jackson" level attached, without a second thought, which in turns encourages all those leeches to keep selling books, interviews, etc.

If there as any thing worth knowing, valuable to protect the kids, and if she has any concerns whatsoever, then the police and legal authorities should be her answer. Not publishing a book to get money to keep living the big life for free, just a lazy nothing.

BUT... as we are just basing our comments on something published by TMZ... I will say we really have to take this with TWO pinches of salt. They published yesterday the doctor of UCLA hospital had confirmed the signals on MJ's body were a proof of durgadiction and we know as a fact that was never confirmed at all.

so.... let's take it easy. this might be but rumors (yes, yes, I still want to believe there's hope )

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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So I guess you know hell of lot. Explain to me this information pls, if you are so aware what is going on.



http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/07/kathe...ome-eviction-estate-compound-family-home-war/

Why estate are so concerned about her writing this book that much so they even want her to sign a confedentiality agreement? I am kind of curious.

Where did I say I was aware of what was going on? If you read my post clearly you would've noticed that I said none of us know for sure and that includes you.

Well it could be but it is not the FACT. just an assumption. The fact is if they want to give her a CONDO just to make her to shut up? What kind of exachange is that? I have a bad feeling about it. Whoa! What is so important could be in that book Estate does not the world to know?

Uhm. let me see, Michael Jackson's personal business!:smilerolleyes: who's name you think would be the selling point for this book.

 

[Big Apple2]

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Obviosely the Estate cares A LOT if they want to give her a condo.

In my opinion, anything the Estate does in THIS particular situation, is on BEHALF of Mrs. Katherine Jackson!

Alejandra has lived in that home for TWENTY-YEARS and has seen stuff that I'm POSITIVE Katherine Jackson would like to keep private, ESPECIALLY anything involving her son's, Randy & Jermaine.

TWENTY-YEARS worth of stories! Shoot, I'd be nervous too, if I were Katherine Jackson. TWENTY-YEARS is a long time.

Twenty years ago, was Joe Jackson still a part of that household?

Twenty years ago, what did the Jackson family think when it was revealed that Joe Jackson had fathered a daughter out of wedlock!

Were either Jermaine and/or Randy ever physically abusive toward Alejandra?

Twenty-years ago, was LaToya still a part of the Encino household?

What does Alejandra know about LaToya's marriage to Jack Gordon?

Who is the REAL father of Donte Jackson?

What will Alejandra reveal about her STRUGGLES to obtain some child-support from Jermaine? (I'm sure Katherine does not want that subject to be discussed, because as she has already stated: ALL of her son's are good fathers.)

The jealousy, The backbiting, The MONEY grabs, The abuse - I'm sure Alejandra has seen it all. She has seen TWENTY YEARS worth of it, and, in my opinion, that is what is being protected here, via the request of Mrs. Katherine Jackson to the Estate of her son, Michael Jackson.

I don't blame her. LOL!

TWENTY-YEARS worth of dirty laundry revealed, who the heck wants that!

 

[billyworld99]

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^ agree, even the silly book of Leonard Rowe had some interesting things to read about ,,,i was very much surprised that Janet was able to meet MJ with all her brothers and all they talked about is him joining her failed tour ! to the point that Leonard had to take MJ out of the room becuase little Janet was so mad and shouting at MJ !


at this point i had to remember her words to Oprah and how she was not able to be in the room to discuss his drugs,,,LIAR ! she was mad at him and Rowe felt the need to take MJ out of the room for his saftey while the innocent sister was fighting MJ to save her failed tour
I was like : God , MJ was really victimized by this family


by the way no one of the Jacksons object the book and Joe promoted this book all over the world.

really that was in his book?

 

[prettygirlmj]

Re: MJ Estate asking court to remove Alejandra and her kids from Hayvenhurst

Something that really bothered me was the time when Genevieve and her brothers were on ustream and all of a sudden Paris pops out in the video. Granted she was wearing a monster mask, still, this should not have happened. To me, this people are responsible for all the leak images and video clips to be all over the net. Just yesturday a picture of Paris eating noodle soup popped out in some thread in another Jackson site. Not to mention a full video of her room with her cats.

This should not be.

Genevieve needs to get her music career going. She can't sing for sh** but neighter can Ke$ha or Katy Perry but that is what autotune is for!

The others are in college, so at least they are trying to get a degree on something...

They should all be ashamed and embarassed by all this. Court Order to get out of a house. pathetic...

 

[ivy]

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Well it could be but it is not the FACT. just an assumption. The fact is if they want to give her a CONDO just to make her to shut up? What kind of exachange is that? I have a bad feeling about it. Whoa! What is so important could be in that book Estate does not the world to know?

Well I never said it as a fact. I said "could be" which is itself means a theory at best.

But let's be honest here do you think a book about Randy or Jermaine will sell? No, who cares.

The only thing that would sell is a book about Michael and/or his kids.

Plus confidentiality agreements are not that "weird" for rich and the famous. For example people that went to Neverland signed one, people working for Michael signed one. Every celebrity settlement is always confidential (example both tiger wood's wife and mistress signed confidentiality agreements for not speaking about him in exchange for monetary settlement).

and let's not act like she's forced into anything. They made her an offer. She can always refuse it and write her book. There's nothing stopping her.

 

[blueocean]

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Sorry but I do not think we are getting the full story. If Ms. katherine wants anyone out of her home, Mrs.kathrine can do it as we all can do it. And if these people are living there, Mrs. Katherine can give them 30 days to move. It is not difficult; if it was like this, alot of people would be staying in homes that the owners want them out. And to me, at this point, I think everyone needs to stay out of the Jackson's business. I think some people stayed in Michael's business and now that he gone, they need another "Jackson" to punch on.

You are so right if katherine want them out she can give them 30 days notice and if they did not move she could call the police to have them removed, cause katherine is like the landlord and there is no lease. there is more to this story that is true.

 

[IvoryKeys]

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So far, this is just a story to me. I see papers have been filed, but actions have yet to be made. Once they are officially out of that house, then i'll start debating over this matter.

tbh....i want them out.

 

[gerryevans]

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You are so right if katherine want them out she can give them 30 days notice and if they did not move she could call the police to have them removed, cause katherine is like the landlord and there is no lease. there is more to this story that is true.

What do you think the "more" is? McClain and Branca don't have to live with Alejandra. Why would they care so much to force her out of the house?

If Katherine wanted her to stay, she would fight for her to stay. We don't know if she is or isn't, but it certainly looks like on the surface that she isn't.

I personally think Katherine has wanted Alejandra out for a while, but she loves her sons, knew it would make them totally financially responsible, wanted to help them, loves her grandchildren, and was accustomed to always being surrounded by lots of family, but she's 80 years old now, has three children she is personally responsible for again, and like we hear about divorces after 20 years of marriage, she wants a divorce from Alejandra after 20 years of co-habitating.

I think the estate is doing her favor. She gets Alejandra out and isn't blamed for it.

 

[msladeevon]

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My vote is OUT
if you want to live there then pay the rent. Alejandra and her children feel that they been living there , why pay rent at the family house. They are not realizing that the situation has changed since Michael has died. When Michael was alive he could not kick her out due to the fact that she lived there more than 30 day , that becoming her residence. She also lived there as girlfriend/mother (Randy),and wife/girlfriend/mother (jermaine) she was safe them. But now that her landlord has changed (6/25/09/) she has to go by the new rules ,which are pay rent or get out. All of Alejandra broods feel , why are we paying rent at the family house and I believe others due too. I really do believe that the Estate would not have gone this far if the Family was helping out the Estate in some way. Like putting in the cost of the food, electricity, cable, tuition, vacation. One solution go live at Janet Malibu home , she's never home.

 

[Memefan]

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My vote is OUT
if you want to live there then pay the rent. Alejandra and her children feel that they been living there , why pay rent at the family house. They are not realizing that the situation has changed since Michael has died. When Michael was alive he could not kick her out due to the fact that she lived there more than 30 day , that becoming her residence. She also lived there as girlfriend/mother (Randy),and wife/girlfriend/mother (jermaine) she was safe them. But now that her landlord has changed (6/25/09/) she has to go by the new rules ,which are pay rent or get out. All of Alejandra broods feel , why are we paying rent at the family house and I believe others due too. I really do believe that the Estate would not have gone this far if the Family was helping out the Estate in some way. Like putting in the cost of the food, electricity, cable, tuition, vacation. One solution go live at Janet Malibu home , she's never home.

:hysterical:


I agree