Rebbie Jackson to be on "The View" on January 27

[StacyJ]

This thread makes me cry. For Michael. For shame.
She probably was jealous that Michael gave his nephews more attention, and money, than he did the others. But if she felt like that, makes you wonder whtat Marlon and Carol told them or put in their heads about Uncle Michael?

I would not be surprised at all if Marlon and Carol filled her head up with trash about Mike. It's pretty obvious to me considering those comments she made on the View laced with innuendo and tabloid chatter. You don't do that to your uncle. What the hell is wrong with them?

 

[Soundmind]

This thread makes me cry. For Michael. For shame.
She probably was jealous that Michael gave his nephews more attention, and money, than he did the others. But if she felt like that, makes you wonder whtat Marlon and Carol told them or put in their heads about Uncle Michael?

Jermaine's ex said once when MJ collapsed in 1990 , Ronald Regan run to the hospital to see what's wrong with him, Jermaine called Marlon to check on MJ, he said he did not know and hung up the phone immediatley according to her he did not even bother to call anyone back to see what's wrong with MJ. She also said that Marlon was angry Katherine was getting double his share of that movie " the Jacksons, an American dream" and Katherine was devastated when he told her he would not sign the contract ,she had to travel to see him and had to BEG HIM to sign .Katherine was upset because she had given him $ 70.000 to pay off some debts and that's how he returned the favour.

Marlon gave interview to a tabloid the very next week they printed a story on him taking drugs to control his sexual desires toward young boys and as Twinklee said he also confirmed the kids were not his biologically.

Some here attacked me when I said he looked so FAKE when he talked about his twin brother Brandon and compared his lose to MJ , :smilerolleyes: very awkward, very FAKE and those sunglasses they were hiding behind :smilerolleyes:

they are creepy, very creepy :mello:

" enough talking about Michael let's talk about US" :smilerolleyes:, " OUR success" ....etc , everyone of them has issues REAL ISSUES , the best words to describe the situation are LOSERS AND ENVY .

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I TOTALY disagree with you about Anthony.

And I can tell you he has used Michael's kids names to get attention.

do tell. i only really know of him cause of his music on F.B (not that im a fan of it) and the home movies/being with mj during the history tour

 

[StacyJ]

Jermaine's ex said once when MJ collapsed in 1990 , Ronald Regan run to the hospital to see what's wrong with him, Jermaine called Marlon to check on MJ, he said he did not know and hung up the phone immediatley according to her he did not even bother to call anyone back to see what's wrong with MJ. She also said that Marlon was angry Katherine was getting double his share of that movie " the Jacksons, an American dream" and Katherine was devastated when he told her he would not sign the contract ,she had to travel to see him and had to BEG HIM to sign .Katherine was upset because she had given him $ 70.000 to pay off some debts and that's how he returned the favour.

Marlon gave interview to a tabloid the very next week they printed a story on him taking drugs to control his sexual desires toward young boys and as Twinklee said he also confirmed the kids were not his biologically.

Some here attacked me when I said he looked so FAKE when he talked about his twin brother Brandon and compared his lose to MJ , :smilerolleyes: very awkward, very FAKE and those sunglasses they were hiding behind :smilerolleyes:

they are creepy, very creepy :mello:

" enough talking about Michael let's talk about US" :smilerolleyes:, " OUR success" ....etc , everyone of them has issues REAL ISSUES , the best words to describe the situation are LOSERS AND ENVY .

You know what Soundmind, I found the whole 'Brandon' thing very strange to. Was Marlon saying that he wished MJ was never born? I just don't know. It seemed odd that he would bring up his dead twin that hadn't lived a day comparing him to a brother that he had lived with and known for 50 years. That was strange to me. To be honest none of them looked devastated to me. I know for a fact that Janet and Rebbie didn't shed a tear at the Memorial or the funeral. Joe didn't look too sad either. That whole family creeps me out now and I don't see any positive intentions from any of them anymore. I used to be a huge fan of the family but not anymore. It's just Michael and PP&B for me, all the rest of them know where they can go.

 

[Ramona122003]

Jermaine's ex said once when MJ collapsed in 1990 , Ronald Regan run to the hospital to see what's wrong with him, Jermaine called Marlon to check on MJ, he said he did not know and hung up the phone immediatley according to her he did not even bother to call anyone back to see what's wrong with MJ. She also said that Marlon was angry Katherine was getting double his share of that movie " the Jacksons, an American dream" and Katherine was devastated when he told her he would not sign the contract ,she had to travel to see him and had to BEG HIM to sign .Katherine was upset because she had given him $ 70.000 to pay off some debts and that's how he returned the favour.

Marlon gave interview to a tabloid the very next week they printed a story on him taking drugs to control his sexual desires toward young boys and as Twinklee said he also confirmed the kids were not his biologically.

Some here attacked me when I said he looked so FAKE when he talked about his twin brother Brandon and compared his lose to MJ , :smilerolleyes: very awkward, very FAKE and those sunglasses they were hiding behind :smilerolleyes:

they are creepy, very creepy :mello:

" enough talking about Michael let's talk about US" :smilerolleyes:, " OUR success" ....etc , everyone of them has issues REAL ISSUES , the best words to describe the situation are LOSERS AND ENVY .

In all fairness, Marlon's daughter is a grown woman and hardly needs her dad's influence to make her go on the View and blast her own uncle.

Parents or other family members' influence also have limits. For example, I had an uncle who kids hated him, despite their parents and cousins having a good relationship with him. When he died his kids, except one, refused to come to his burial and only came for the free meal after the service, while his nieces and nephews cried like they lost a parent.

For reasons unknown to us, she may had dislike Michael and had no problems throwing him under the bus. Along with T3. Most likely jealousy issues.

As for Rebbie, I always got the impression that she never liked Michael. She may had loved him, but as a person she seemed to resent him on some level. Going by her words and actions it seemed to stem from him leaving the JW and embracing the 'sins' of stardom instead. She may honestly feel that allot of things wouldn't had happened if Michael hadn't 'turned' his back on God. To a JW, leaving the church on your own free will is worst than getting kicked out.

I seriously have family members like that who are JWs.

 

[marebear]

Didn't Marlon accept the dance hall of fame honor for Michael? I find Marlon as one that isn't around much unless it's a reunion of some sorts. I don't think he even lives in California. I know this will sound naive but it's hard to picture people in his own family have bad feelings towards Michael. I know jealousy and such can happen in any family. It's just sad if that is the case with some of them.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

As for Rebbie, I always got the impression that she never liked Michael. She may had loved him, but as a person she seemed to resent him on some level. Going by her words and actions it seemed to stem from him leaving the JW and embracing the 'sins' of stardom instead. She may honestly feel that allot of things wouldn't had happened if Michael hadn't 'turned' his back on God. To a JW, leaving the church on your own free will is worst than getting kicked out.

yeah could be. she certainly gives the impression of someone whos bitter

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Jermaine's ex said once when MJ collapsed in 1990 , Ronald Regan run to the hospital to see what's wrong with him, Jermaine called Marlon to check on MJ, he said he did not know and hung up the phone immediatley according to her he did not even bother to call anyone back to see what's wrong with MJ. She also said that Marlon was angry Katherine was getting double his share of that movie " the Jacksons, an American dream" and Katherine was devastated when he told her he would not sign the contract ,she had to travel to see him and had to BEG HIM to sign .Katherine was upset because she had given him $ 70.000 to pay off some debts and that's how he returned the favour.

Marlon gave interview to a tabloid the very next week they printed a story on him taking drugs to control his sexual desires toward young boys and as Twinklee said he also confirmed the kids were not his biologically.

Some here attacked me when I said he looked so FAKE when he talked about his twin brother Brandon and compared his lose to MJ , :smilerolleyes: very awkward, very FAKE and those sunglasses they were hiding behind :smilerolleyes:

they are creepy, very creepy :mello:

" enough talking about Michael let's talk about US" :smilerolleyes:, " OUR success" ....etc , everyone of them has issues REAL ISSUES , the best words to describe the situation are LOSERS AND ENVY .

u r on the spot with this one .and this jealously and envy is now carried forward towards his kids as well .after Michael ,they are the new target in this family ,and their action shows that , stun gun incidence ,questioning their DNA,selling them to porn guy first then Oprah,using them to promote their j5 collection cloths,selling them to tabloids ,icing on the cake was selling them to tabloids on the day of their fathers 1st death anniversary ,expecting to be there in front of that mausoleum.
i am just praying for them day and night.

 

[LindavG]

In all fairness, Marlon's daughter is a grown woman and hardly needs her dad's influence to make her go on the View and blast her own uncle.

I agree. Parents should not be held responsible for whatever their adult children say/do and vice versa.

As for Rebbie, I always got the impression that she never liked Michael. She may had loved him, but as a person she seemed to resent him on some level. Going by her words and actions it seemed to stem from him leaving the JW and embracing the 'sins' of stardom instead. She may honestly feel that allot of things wouldn't had happened if Michael hadn't 'turned' his back on God. To a JW, leaving the church on your own free will is worst than getting kicked out.

I seriously have family members like that who are JWs.

That could be true, but then again Rebbie (and Katherine) don't seem too strict about following the rules of their religion.

 

[Thrill]

You know what Soundmind, I found the whole 'Brandon' thing very strange to. Was Marlon saying that he wished MJ was never born? I just don't know. It seemed odd that he would bring up his dead twin that hadn't lived a day comparing him to a brother that he had lived with and known for 50 years. That was strange to me. To be honest none of them looked devastated to me. I know for a fact that Janet and Rebbie didn't shed a tear at the Memorial or the funeral. Joe didn't look too sad either. That whole family creeps me out now and I don't see any positive intentions from any of them anymore. I used to be a huge fan of the family but not anymore. It's just Michael and PP&B for me, all the rest of them know where they can go.

Now what a minute. Marlon was not tryin to say he wished MJ was never born.. where do ppl get stuff from seriously????????????

And Why is the whole Brandon thing strange? Many twins feel a special connection with their identical sibling, who gives if Brandon lived a day or not. Thats not even important. Marlon never got to know him. Marlon shared the same space with his brother for 9 months, it must have been an awful loss for the entire family, imagine Katherine to have been carrying a child for 9 months and then its a stillborn child. Awful.

Do you know for a FACT that Janet and Rebbie didnt cry on the memorial/funeral and the camera was not on them the entire time plus cameras were not present at the funeral. We couldnt see their eyes. Do they HAVE to cry to please you? Dont get me wrong but people do deal with grief differently. There were plenty of reports about Janet Jackson after the memorial at the Beverly Hills hotel for the reception that she sat by herself in a corner completely blank and numb with Blanket by her side and not engaging with anyone. I also think she looked pretty devastated on the BET awards (yes she was all dressed up and make up blah blah) but she was about to cry at the end there. Also the end of her MTV tribute.

I just honestly belive its very uncalled for to say the family have not been grieving. Im sure they have in their own special way that might looks really odd (ie Joe shopping around his record deal) but give them some slack. I know many of their actions have been fucked up and I do not support any of their crappy projecsts or whatever they alwas come up with but to say they doesnt seem to be sad that MJ is gone is just uncalled for.

 

[StacyJ]

I don't know for a fact but everytime they were shown I didn't see any tears. I also find their giggling and laughing to be totally inappropriate considering their brother was murdered. It's just sad. I will never forgive this family for what they've done. They do not act like a family that cared about their loved one in my opinion. If you love someone you help them. You do everything in your power to help them if you think they have some kind of issues that can be detrimental to themselves or to their kids. They did nothing but wait until he dies to claim they tried to help. I just don't find any of them credible and I don't think they loved MJ. That is my opinion.

 

[Petrarose]

Jermaine's ex said once when MJ collapsed in 1990 , Ronald Regan run to the hospital to see what's wrong with him, Jermaine called Marlon to check on MJ, he said he did not know and hung up the phone immediatley according to her he did not even bother to call anyone back to see what's wrong with MJ. She also said that Marlon was angry Katherine was getting double his share of that movie " the Jacksons, an American dream" and Katherine was devastated when he told her he would not sign the contract ,she had to travel to see him and had to BEG HIM to sign .Katherine was upset because she had given him $ 70.000 to pay off some debts and that's how he returned the favour.

Marlon gave interview to a tabloid the very next week they printed a story on him taking drugs to control his sexual desires toward young boys and as Twinklee said he also confirmed the kids were not his biologically.

Some here attacked me when I said he looked so FAKE when he talked about his twin brother Brandon and compared his lose to MJ , :smilerolleyes: very awkward, very FAKE and those sunglasses they were hiding behind :smilerolleyes:

they are creepy, very creepy :mello:

" enough talking about Michael let's talk about US" :smilerolleyes:, " OUR success" ....etc , everyone of them has issues REAL ISSUES , the best words to describe the situation are LOSERS AND ENVY .

WAW this information is devastating. I never thought Marlon would do something like that. It is so hard to reconcile the behavior of these brothers during the J5 era with the behavior after 1983. Is it a resentment that Michael tried to be independent and his own person. It seems that when Michael is constantly giving money everyone is happy, and when he says no the problems begin.

By the way is the daughter you guys are talking about the same one who was crying about her failed marriage during the Jackson reality show?

 

[8701girl]

I don't know for a fact but everytime they were shown I didn't see any tears. I also find their giggling and laughing to be totally inappropriate considering their brother was murdered. It's just sad. I will never forgive this family for what they've done. They do not act like a family that cared about their loved one in my opinion. If you love someone you help them. You do everything in your power to help them if you think they have some kind of issues that can be detrimental to themselves or to their kids. They did nothing but wait until he dies to claim they tried to help. I just don't find any of them credible and I don't think they loved MJ. That is my opinion.

They should have helped him whhen he was alive, but it seems to me they only cared bout the money and attention.

 

[StacyJ]

By the way is the daughter you guys are talking about the same one who was crying about her failed marriage during the Jackson reality show?

yes that's Valencia

 

[StacyJ]

They should have helped him whhen he was alive, but it seems to me they only cared bout the money and attention.

Exactly. They didn't. They have refused to name dates and times of when these interventions took place that's because they never did happen. They only wanted MJ to tour with them on the family reunion tour. There was no drug intervention and they know it. They are lying.

 

[Petrarose]

yes that's Valencia

I was feeling so sad for her during that segment. Now I find out she bad mouthed Michael--dirt comes around.

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

In all fairness, Marlon's daughter is a grown woman and hardly needs her dad's influence to make her go on the View and blast her own uncle.

Parents or other family members' influence also have limits. For example, I had an uncle who kids hated him, despite their parents and cousins having a good relationship with him. When he died his kids, except one, refused to come to his burial and only came for the free meal after the service, while his nieces and nephews cried like they lost a parent.

For reasons unknown to us, she may had dislike Michael and had no problems throwing him under the bus. Along with T3. Most likely jealousy issues.

As for Rebbie, I always got the impression that she never liked Michael. She may had loved him, but as a person she seemed to resent him on some level. Going by her words and actions it seemed to stem from him leaving the JW and embracing the 'sins' of stardom instead. She may honestly feel that allot of things wouldn't had happened if Michael hadn't 'turned' his back on God. To a JW, leaving the church on your own free will is worst than getting kicked out.

I seriously have family members like that who are JWs.

So true. You can't believe everything tabloids write either. Remember, trash sells, words can always be taken out of context.

As far as Michael leaving the JW & Rebbie being upset over it, I didn't see that in the interview itself at all. In reference to the 'sins' of stardom... Michael became famous beyond his control. Embracing a world who loves you isn't sinful, esp when you've helped to try and heal the world in so many various ways. Besides, she worked with Michael for years. He helped her write her debute album.
And Michael never 'turned' his back on God. Given, he may have often times felt that God had turned his back on him (Mike), yet Michael never left the JW b/c he turned his back on God. He left due to the fact that he was tired of having to go from door to door, constantly trying to recruite certain folks to his religion. He was tired of the rigerous life-style and restrictions they set upon oneself. How can you be a performer if you're not aloud to perform? Seriously, I don't kow how Prince does it...
Michael went back to his Christian roots, but along side of that, embraced and learned of every other religion. He lived to learn and loved to learn. Anything that gave him spiritua guidence was a saving grace to him.
Faith shouldn't set boundaries for you or restrictions. Perhaps that's why I've stopped believing in God in some ways. I think I lost faith after Michael passed. What a bright light he was in this world to all of us.

 

[Petrarose]

So true. You can't believe everything tabloids write either. Remember, trash sells, words can always be taken out of context.

As far as Michael leaving the JW & Rebbie being upset over it, I didn't see that in the interview itself at all. In reference to the 'sins' of stardom... Michael became famous beyond his control. Embracing a world who loves you isn't sinful, esp when you've helped to try and heal the world in so many various ways. Besides, she worked with Michael for years. He helped her write her debute album.
And Michael never 'turned' his back on God. Given, he may have often times felt that God had turned his back on him (Mike), yet Michael never left the JW b/c he turned his back on God. He left due to the fact that he was tired of having to go from door to door, constantly trying to recruite certain folks to his religion. He was tired of the rigerous life-style and restrictions they set upon oneself. How can you be a performer if you're not aloud to perform? Seriously, I don't kow how Prince does it...
Michael went back to his Christian roots, but along side of that, embraced and learned of every other religion. He lived to learn and loved to learn. Anything that gave him spiritua guidence was a saving grace to him.
Faith shouldn't set boundaries for you or restrictions. Perhaps that's why I've stopped believing in God in some ways. I think I lost faith after Michael passed. What a bright light he was in this world to all of us.

Oh try to find God again. God is very easy to find--the love of Michael, for instance. God is in there.

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

Aw Petra it's o.k., I just see God now as something different. I try not to view it as a human, as as a being, if you will. To me, from a scientific persepctive, God is pure energy, light, atoms etc. It's simply the entire world around us. Jesus on the other hand was a human and his spirit lives amoung us as with others. I'm trying to reconnect with my catholic roots but, Taoism is also looking very interesting to me. Much like the bible it too is based on interpretations, teachings and philosophies.
I appologize if I offened you though.

 

[Petrarose]

Aw Petra it's o.k., I just see God now as something different. I try not to view it as a human, as as a being, if you will. To me, from a scientific persepctive, God is pure energy, light, atoms etc. It's simply the entire world around us. Jesus on the other hand was a human and his spirit lives amoung us as with others. I'm trying to reconnect with my catholic roots but, Taoism is also looking very interesting to me. Much like the bible it too is based on interpretations, teachings and philosophies.
I appologize if I offened you though.

Oh OK that is good to know. I am also Catholic although I practice any aspects of a religion that I see as spiritual and is God-centered. Hence, I would be invited to Hindu services, for example and go and really pray with the Indians. However, my Catholic faith is my basic foundation.

Oh Oh we are off topic.

 

[StacyJ]

I was feeling so sad for her during that segment. Now I find out she bad mouthed Michael--dirt comes around.

yes it does and I can't wait until it comes around to all of those who hurt MJ

 

[AngieJ]

Do you know for a FACT that Janet and Rebbie didnt cry on the memorial/funeral and the camera was not on them the entire time plus cameras were not present at the funeral. We couldnt see their eyes. Do they HAVE to cry to please you? Dont get me wrong but people do deal with grief differently. There were plenty of reports about Janet Jackson after the memorial at the Beverly Hills hotel for the reception that she sat by herself in a corner completely blank and numb with Blanket by her side and not engaging with anyone. I also think she looked pretty devastated on the BET awards (yes she was all dressed up and make up blah blah) but she was about to cry at the end there. Also the end of her MTV tribute.

I just honestly belive its very uncalled for to say the family have not been grieving. Im sure they have in their own special way that might looks really odd (ie Joe shopping around his record deal) but give them some slack. I know many of their actions have been fucked up and I do not support any of their crappy projecsts or whatever they alwas come up with but to say they doesnt seem to be sad that MJ is gone is just uncalled for.

I agree. It's too much. There's just so much there already to go after them on, why stoop to nitpicking if they've cried or not? It's just desperate.

 

[Justthefacts]

I know none of us like Raymone Bain very much. But let me say this I found this interview to be telling this is a woman who at the time was suing Michael. A BS lawsuit yes but if anything she would have reason to call him an addict but she never did. In fact she defended Michael here more passionately then anyone named Jackson ever did. If you are watching Jacksons and I know you are not but by chance if you are take notes





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8YFz3mwmuc&feature=related

 

[StacyJ]

I know none of us like Raymone Bain very much. But let me say this I found this interview to be telling this is a woman who at the time was suing Michael. A BS lawsuit yes but if anything she would have reason to call him an addict but she never did. In fact she defended Michael here more passionately then anyone named Jackson ever did. If you are watching Jacksons and I know you are not but by chance if you are take notes





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8YFz3mwmuc&feature=related

I so agree.. She was around MJ during this time so she would know. It's very telling when Raymone Bain has been much more supportive than his own family. It's very sad too

 

[8701girl]

Wouldnt surprise me if that true.

 

[yaazgurl]

I wish people would not bash JW in their posts and unless you saw Michael's disassociation letter you don't know the reasons why he left so please do not interject your own beliefs as facts to indict a religion.

 

[Alma]

Jesus on the other hand was a human and his spirit lives amoung us as with others.

And that is an opinion only. He still Is.

Losing faith after Michael died is unfair, when God has got nothing to do with what happened, but some certain loony forces. ...


And, hopefully, this won't turn into a religious debate, it can't end well.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Yes, let us not make this a religious debate.

Please get back on topic.

 

[ginvid]

I wish people would not bash JW in their posts and unless you saw Michael's disassociation letter you don't know the reasons why he left so please do not interject your own beliefs as facts to indict a religion.

Yes, let us not make this a religious debate.

Please get back on topic.

Exactly. It really upsets me when people present things as fact when it is their opinion of events. Especially when it is used to cast a negative light on something. Or when they take their particular isolated experience as indicative of every other person associated with something. If you don't know, please ask instead of making something up on your own or choosing to believe someone who does not know.

Please remain on topic. And please take personal, side conversations, to PM.

Thank you.

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

I wish people would not bash JW in their posts and unless you saw Michael's disassociation letter you don't know the reasons why he left so please do not interject your own beliefs as facts to indict a religion.

I appologize Yaaz, I didn't mean to offend you. I'm not bashing JW or any other religion for that matter, and if by chance it came across that way, I again appologize. I didn't see a letter, yet heard it from one of his friends in Vegas during the 2005 celebration, that in '86 that it was just too difficult for him to continue. There's also an article on it somewhere. I also was not 'interjecting' my own beliefs as facts. Simply explaining the basic act of JW doing their work for God, by approaching various neighbours door to door. It does get annoying to some only if you are not willing to hear God's word. Even the Lord has patience. Now, let's get back on topic.