TMZ article about Karen Faye's testimony

[Ashtanga]

:wtf:


What a mess this woman is, huh? :sigh: :doh:

Karen can not be considered a friend of Michael. -_- She should shut up. That deception.... *big sigh*

 

[Petrarose]

That's absolutely outrageous! Sounds like the intro to fan-fiction.

You have said it, and not a good intro at all.

 

[Petrarose]

:crazy
Raise your hands if you knew something was going to be tweeted to try and clean this up?

:hands raised:

My hand is touching the ceiling. Poor Karen, and she desperately wants someone to make her a witness. Ohhhhh.

 

[Memefan]

Mmmm... I'll have one of those to go, please. :shifty:

You better off eating there & ask for several refills

 

[noirnoar]

Shut up already, Karen Fay you sound like Billy Jean...McD? Right, Mike will discuss with Karen Fay about his finance? KF suck as stylist..I never knew why MJJ kept her around for so long. She is not that good of stylist nor a makeup artist..She sucks...

 

[Petrarose]

Shut up already, Karen Fay you sounds like Billy Jean...McD? Right, Mike will discuss with Karen Fay about his finance? KF suck as stylist..I never knew why MJJ kept her around for so long. She is not that good of stylist nor a makeup artist..She sucks...

It seems that Michael only hired her to do his make up, but she tries to get involved in other aspects of his life, sort of not really understanding that she is the hired help.

 

[noirnoar]

It seems that Michael only hired her to do his make up, but she tries to get involved in other aspects of his life, sort of not really understanding that she is the hired help.

It is obvious she likes to show-off. I agree with you, she was hired help, just like Michael Bush.

 

[mjjmsc]

I think Karen needs psychological help!
Michael was able to do 50 shows and he wouldn't take drugs because he loved his children too much!
and the thing with McDonalds was probably a joke, Michael was a very funny guy
Karen is just wanting attention!shame on her,Michael thought she was his friend...what a friend:-(

 

[diana79]

I like Karen. I think she wants to tell her story - what she saw from her vantage point, being inside the TII rehearsals. I'm glad that she's sharing what she experienced. However, trying to decipher what happened is very difficult when she communicates using Twitter. I wish she would just start a blog where she can write long, detailed entries.

Seriously, letting us know that TMZ got it wrong when they reported what you said is nice, but let us know WHAT THEY GOT WRONG AND WHAT THE TRUTH IS!

I think that she wants to testify at the trial, but I don't know why either side would ask her to testify. She seems mostly concerned with Michael's health during the last few days or so. Her testimony wouldn't help convict Murray, so the prosecution doesn't want her. Nothing she can say would change the conclusions in the autopsy report, so the defense doesn't want her.

 

[Dutchie]

I see myself going to USA just to buy my breakfast, lunch and dinner from that place.
MJ: "You want diet or regular coke?"
Me: "I don't know, what's your favorite? :wub:"
I would be so annoying

LOL!

MJ: "Diet or regular coke? " :scratch:
Me: "......................." :bugeyed
MJ: "Um...diet or regular coke?"
Me: ".....you." :wild:

 

[noirnoar]

That's all I read, because I couldn't read anymore after that.

Karen Faye is as much BS as attractive Michael is in a fast food uniform.

I just hope they don't take this photoshopped pic (like the ambulance one) and use it to say that Michael was actually working there.

I love the pic, but it is used burger king uniform, not mcdonalds. I see burger king logo on the cup. But MJJ looks so cute...:wub:

 

[elusive moonwalker]

No one will let her speak the "truth" from the courtroom, because they OBVIOUSLY know they are dealing with a nut. LOL!

If she had viable information and wasn't so unstable, she would be a STAR WITNESS. She's not and there's a reason she's not. Poor thing!

exactly. heck if the defence havent event called her what does that say LOL. karens an idiot who should be ashamed of herself. funny how she sauys mj was taking drugs etc. i guess she hasnt read the A.R or the list of what was found in mjs house and what had been taken. where were all these drugs? in thin air?

and the reasons shes not included in the AEG lawsuit for not helping mj is cause randy is the one behind the suit and those two are as thick as theives

 

[StacyJ]

exactly. heck if the defence havent event called her what does that say LOL. karens an idiot who should be ashamed of herself. funny how she sauys mj was taking drugs etc. i guess she hasnt read the A.R or the list of what was found in mjs house and what had been taken. where were all these drugs? in thin air?

and the reasons shes not included in the AEG lawsuit for not helping mj is cause randy is the one behind the suit and those two are as thick as theives

I was wondering why Randy singled out Ortega but not Karen or Michael Bush.. They are the ones who were doing his hair, makeup and putting on his clothes. They saw him up close. If they thought he was bone thin and dying why didn't they contact the Jackson family?

 

[Moonwalker.Fan]

I like Karen. I think she wants to tell her story - what she saw from her vantage point, being inside the TII rehearsals. I'm glad that she's sharing what she experienced. However, trying to decipher what happened is very difficult when she communicates using Twitter. I wish she would just start a blog where she can write long, detailed entries.

Seriously, letting us know that TMZ got it wrong when they reported what you said is nice, but let us know WHAT THEY GOT WRONG AND WHAT THE TRUTH IS!

I think that she wants to testify at the trial, but I don't know why either side would ask her to testify. She seems mostly concerned with Michael's health during the last few days or so. Her testimony wouldn't help convict Murray, so the prosecution doesn't want her. Nothing she can say would change the conclusions in the autopsy report, so the defense doesn't want her.

I cant agree more!

 

[GinnyJackson]

k this is my thought on Mrs.Faye.... I think yes they worked together but that it was a professional friendship but i think she wanted the relationship to go farther then what it was, i think she wanted a romance with Michael and he wouldn't bend to her wishes. SO in turn she takes every possible opportunity to talk about him in any way she possibly can. His rejection to her may have triggered her to be a sort of "Dirty Diana" or a "Billie Jean" to him. Something he didn't want. Thats just what i think about her i don't care if anyone agrees with me or not but thats how i look at her.

 

[Autumn II]

k this is my thought on Mrs.Faye.... I think yes they worked together but that it was a professional friendship but i think she wanted the relationship to go farther then what it was, i think she wanted a romance with Michael and he wouldn't bend to her wishes. SO in turn she takes every possible opportunity to talk about him in any way she possibly can. His rejection to her may have triggered her to be a sort of "Dirty Diana" or a "Billie Jean" to him. Something he didn't want. Thats just what i think about her i don't care if anyone agrees with me or not but thats how i look at her.

That sounds about right, and yes, I DO agree.

For those of you who "like" Karen Faye, maybe you just don't know the history (which goes pretty far back)? For just one thing, there was the MJJSource fiasco, where she teamed up with Randy Jackson, and others, and founded the website. This was at the time Michael was fighting for his life in the courtroom. There is a lot more to this, and I'm sure it can be found on Google, but probably the worst thing that happened is that fans bought packages of "Michael products" (a calendar, and other stuff) for about fifty U.S. dollars each. They never received them, or only some did, and nobody got money back that I'm aware of. Michael finally surfaced and shut the website down, and K.F. made public statements that Michael had "failed to keep his promises" (and what promises would THOSE be, in the middle of the TRIAL???) and she basically trashed him. He cut her out of his life after that. Why she was let back in, I have no idea, unless AEG hired her, and not Michael? And we do not KNOW which of that it was.

Also, during the trial she developed a bit of a fanclub for HERSELF, by posting on the websites and revealing some of Michael's personal life. I'm sure he wasn't aware of it at the time, during the TRIAL.

So, guys, you can "like" K.F. if you want to . . . but . . . . . many of us do NOT, because there is a history and context to her behavior.

I doubt she will be called as a witness because she's given such conflicting statements she has little or no credibility.

Next?

 

[kasume]

:lol: Mickey D's? Michael was more of a KFC man. While do think Michael may have been streesed and anxious about the shows i doubt he really felt he'd had to work in a fast food place for a living.

Anyone calling Michael stressed must realize they are only helping murray's defense. I hope you all are aware of that.

I did not see from TII that he was stressed at all. I didn't even get a hint of that. Especially from the extras that was not in the original movie. He was delighted about this, really looking forward to it.

He may not have wanted to do 50 shows at first, but when the development of these shows started and he realized how unprecedented these shows were going to be, I think he didn't really mind. He looked happy at rehearsals, engaged in everything.

I think the greatness of these concerts gave him that push and security, that excitement to take on the 50 shows. And I don't think they (Thome, DiLeo) were expecting Michael to actually be able to go through it all. But he was.

I believe the reason for adding these 50 shows was just an excuse to say "he was stressed". Or actually make him stressed (which he wasn't). And fans say, well, he said he went through hell touring his earlier years. If people listen, he said it's BECAUSE he went from city to city, different time zones every night. This is it was different. The concerts were spaced out, one timezone, no moving from city to city. You just can't compare those two completley different situations.

 

[Big Apple2]

I did not see from TII that he was stressed at all. I didn't even get a hint of that. Especially from the extras that was not in the original movie. He was delighted about this, really looking forward to it.

He may not have wanted to do 50 shows at first, but when the development of these shows started and he realized how unprecedented these shows were going to be, I think he didn't really mind. He looked happy at rehearsals, engaged in everything.

I think the greatness of these concerts gave him that push and security, that excitement to take on the 50 shows.

I agree. In my opinion, from what I saw, he looked like he was having the time of his life. In FULL control.

To be honest, I was surprised to see him involved in EVERY aspect of the show. I always figured the artist came in, followed somebody else's instructions, maybe made a few changes here and there, but that they wouldn't be involved in EVERY little detail, like Michael was. It surprised me a little bit.

And his "WEEEEEEE" from the cherry-picker was priceless! Just like a big ole kid in a candy-store, in my opinion.

 

[kasume]

I agree. In my opinion, from what I saw, he looked like he was having the time of his life. In FULL control.

To be honest, I was surprised to see him involved in EVERY aspect of the show. I always figured the artist came in, followed somebody else's instructions, maybe made a few changes here and there, but that they wouldn't be involved in EVERY little detail, like Michael was. It surprised me a little bit.

And his "WEEEEEEE" from the cherry-picker was priceless! Just like a big ole kid in a candy-store, in my opinion.

I wasn't surprised as I heard during the rehearsals that Michael was going to be involved in every aspect of the production, the costumes, lights, even directing with Kenny. We even see that in this pic below..

And also, Chris Grant himself said that Michael couldn't be at rehearsals all the time because he had other things to do with the concert. He wasn't just singing and dancing.

 

[Ohood]

Anyone calling Michael stressed must realize they are only helping murray's defense. I hope you all are aware of that.

I did not see from TII that he was stressed at all. I didn't even get a hint of that. Especially from the extras that was not in the original movie. He was delighted about this, really looking forward to it.

He may not have wanted to do 50 shows at first, but when the development of these shows started and he realized how unprecedented these shows were going to be, I think he didn't really mind. He looked happy at rehearsals, engaged in everything.

I think the greatness of these concerts gave him that push and security, that excitement to take on the 50 shows. And I don't think they (Thome, DiLeo) were expecting Michael to actually be able to go through it all. But he was.

I believe the reason for adding these 50 shows was just an excuse to say "he was stressed". Or actually make him stressed (which he wasn't). And fans say, well, he said he went through hell touring his earlier years. If people listen, he said it's BECAUSE he went from city to city, different time zones every night. This is it was different. The concerts were spaced out, one timezone, no moving from city to city. You just can't compare those two completley different situations.

excellet post !

 

[prettygirlmj]

Ummm, Karen Faye...hey it's me prettygirlmj. Can I have my $50 back? You know, the one you took and put in your pocket pretending that it was for Michael Jackson's fansite club. Oh yeah, you don't recall that? My bad.

You also don't recall selling those $45 bracelets to MJ fans - the one that Michael supposely wanted....and that (according to crazy ole' you) you put in his ankle before the casket was closed. Yeah. You were very worried about his 108lb frame which is why you did that.

/rant

 

[Moulin Rouge]

Anyone calling Michael stressed must realize they are only helping murray's defense. I hope you all are aware of that.

I did not see from TII that he was stressed at all. I didn't even get a hint of that. Especially from the extras that was not in the original movie. He was delighted about this, really looking forward to it.

He may not have wanted to do 50 shows at first, but when the development of these shows started and he realized how unprecedented these shows were going to be, I think he didn't really mind. He looked happy at rehearsals, engaged in everything.

I think the greatness of these concerts gave him that push and security, that excitement to take on the 50 shows. And I don't think they (Thome, DiLeo) were expecting Michael to actually be able to go through it all. But he was.

I believe the reason for adding these 50 shows was just an excuse to say "he was stressed". Or actually make him stressed (which he wasn't). And fans say, well, he said he went through hell touring his earlier years. If people listen, he said it's BECAUSE he went from city to city, different time zones every night. This is it was different. The concerts were spaced out, one timezone, no moving from city to city. You just can't compare those two completley different situations.

Nothing can help Murray's defense, he's in a losing pisition. If he tries to claim Michael was stressed and taking other meds then he admits he knew there was more than a sleeping probelm and as the doctor he's still responsible for administering the propofol. And if he decided to say Michael drank it he still loses because propofol needs to be injectid tinto the bloodstream, he has changed his stories so much it's hard to take him serious.

Of course you didn't see stressed out on TII why would people pay to see Michael stressed out or having dificluties. The movies is a 2 hour edit of over hundres of hours of footage, you select the best to give the fans a gist of what was to come.

I didn't say Michael was unhappy and didn't want to perform but i'm sure he had alot on his mind.

You do realize Michael didn't get through it, he didn't even make it to opening night.

I do agree this was different, it was a residency he wouldn't be traveling to the fans, the fans were coming to see him and the shows weren't back to back to back but i still don't think he was ready for it, maybe physically he was but he was having some problems like his insomnia which he needed to treat. Michael probably felt like he had to perform byt the oprning date or else hell would break loose, remember dome dates were already pushed back and he was getting negative feedback,it seemed like no one but fans and his crew(dancers/directors) actually believed he was capable of doing the shows.

 

[Autumn II]

Ummm, Karen Faye...hey it's me prettygirlmj. Can I have my $50 back? You know, the one you took and put in your pocket pretending that it was for Michael Jackson's fansite club. Oh yeah, you don't recall that? My bad.

You also don't recall selling those $45 bracelets to MJ fans - the one that Michael supposely wanted....and that (according to crazy ole' you) you put in his ankle before the casket was closed. Yeah. You were very worried about his 108lb frame which is why you did that.

/rant

Exactly. That's how I remember it, too. If we don't learn from history, we are destined to repeat it? K.F. didn't just pop up on the scene YESTERDAY!

Thanks for rant.

 

[prettygirlmj]

Autumm II I seriously want my f***ing money back. It's been years, but that still pisses me off, not only for the money but how Karen betrayed Michael like that. I don't like anyone screwing Michael like that. He had too many of those in his lifetime.

I wish there was a way that a court can order Karen Faye to never tweet, blog or post ever again. It's a fantasy of mine, I know. This woman has caused nothing but harm to Michael and his memory. Not to mention divided so many fans.

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

ole girl is tripping nothing else ,she is been lying for so long ,now every thing is coming out again like it happened with that site but her fans still have nerve to defend her ,i guess their love for her is really blind,the desire of getting close to Michael is so much that they flock around people like karen.

 

[xthunderx2]

I think that if she is not happy with what it is that has been written about her discussion with law enforcement..then maybe she should go public and set the story straight...this way noone can as what she calls it...takes her words and twist them ...that way we will be getting the lies right from her own mouth, Guess she is not interested in setting the record straight.

 

[StacyJ]

I really wish MJ would've sought out an expert in sleep treatments/ insomnia. After the trial in 2005, it would've been good for him to go away for a couple of years and get any help needed either physically or psychologically. Did anyone near or dear to him suggest to him to get help? Those years were traumatizing for him. Did anyone care about his well being and the effects that trial on his mind? Why wasn't his mother watching over him? she knows he had to be a wreck.

It's so sad because if his family or friends cared enough he would be here.

 

[xthunderx2]

I really wish MJ would've sought out an expert in sleep treatments/ insomnia. After the trial in 2005, it would've been good for him to go away for a couple of years and get any help needed either physically or psychologically. Did anyone near or dear to him suggest to him to get help? Those years were traumatizing for him. Did anyone care about his well being and the effects that trial on his mind? Why wasn't his mother watching over him? she knows he had to be a wreck.

It's so sad because if his family or friends cared enough he would be here.

well we dont know that he didn't in the past...as a matter of fact I read that he did seek expert help in the past for his sleep problem. As we know Michael's sleep problems were also way before the trial to....as far as him seeking any kind of psychological help....who really knows maybe he did...we really dont know.....maybe he felt comfortable about himself and decided he didnt need it. After all poor Michael is not here to say what he did and what he did not do....its very sad.

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

Didn't Michael tell Will.I.am in Ireland something when Will said to be hungry? Just take the horse and pick some apples, the horses like that? Hehehe.

Sounds like some people do have a hard time understanding Michael.

 

[ivy]

PS: Apparently Karen forgot that people copied her Facebook posts. I'll post some from various websites/ sources and you can see whether they match up to what TMZ reported.


Karen Faye Kissinger KO was very aware of Michael's failing condition (I had many conversations with him in Michael's last week) during rehearsals, yet he goes on TV with Randy Phillips....Oprah Winfrey....etc. saying Michael was in good health.

Karen Faye Kissinger at least...I wish they had the courage to speak the truth. That they did not do enough to save Michael. I can admit it. I am ashamed I did not do more to save him.

Karen Faye Kissinger It was known to those closest to Michael he was resorting to taking drugs. I do not know who knew "what" he was taking (I didn't)...I was alerting those around me of my concerns and fears...so they knew, because I was telling them, and they were aware. I also expressed extreme concern over his weight.

Karen Faye Kissinger No...he Michael had a contract. He was being pressured to perform. Kenny told me....that Michael was told: if he didn't straighten up..."they" would pull the plug on the entire thing.

Karen Faye Kissinger ...and "they", AEG was financing Michael's entire life.

Karen Faye Kissinger Michael was pressured...and cornered.

Karen Faye Kissinger Michael could not eat, he could not sleep....

Karen Faye Kissinger so he turned to drugs for escape.

Karen Faye Kissinger I continuously addressed Michael's weight with him...but he wasn't mentally strong enough to overcome his own frailties....he felt badgered, and manipulated day after day...it was difficult for me to continue advising him, so I went to those who i thought had more power to help. KO, and Frank Dileo.

Karen Faye Kissinger KO told me not to "baby" him....he needed TOUGH LOVE.

Karen Faye Kissinger KO told me AEG hired one of the top 10 doctors in the world for Michael.

Karen Faye Kissinger Frank Dileo told me "they" had it under control....and then Michael was dead.

Karen Faye Kissinger I am forced to watch these vultures on TV saying Michael was healthy, and stong....that they had no idea....they are lying pieces of crap!


Karen Faye Kissinger there are too many questions without answers.

Karen Faye Kissinger yes...I have been interrogated by the LAPD and have shared the truth with Michael's family members that have wanted to know.

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Karen Faye Kissinger
he was doing the only thing he knew how to do to escape....drugs.

Karen Faye Kissinger
who could blame him....the pressure, no control, no money, 50 show contract, KO yelling at him everyday,...he was backed into a corner....

Karen Faye Kissinger
all he wanted was to be able sleep.....so he could get through the next rehearsal...

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Karen Faye Kissinger: I just want the truth to be known. I did not know what drugs Michael was using. But, in my opinion, it was evident his problem was effecting rehearsals, his attendance and his weight. We were all concerned. The performers were starting to wonder. I do not know exactly why they are denying it.
I always tried to protect Michael in every way. I began asking for a psychologist to help Michael AND us in dealing with the problem. I began warning my superiors. (I was commanded to come to them with ALL of my concerns). They told me they had it under control…two days later he was dead.

Karen Faye Kissinger: People keep asking me why I didn't drag Michael out of there. I have been dealing with Michael and his denial for many years. So has his family. I can not drag anyone to safety. I am not strong enough to physically drag Michael into my car, past his security guards against his will. I can not drive through iron gates and take him from his children. I can not jeopardize, him breaking his contract. I do not understand people who think I was in a position to do that.

Karen Faye Kissinger: Michael didn't think he was able to do the shows. He told me, he couldn't sleep and couldn't eat. Check out what he was telling the fans.

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Karen Faye Kissinger: In my opinion, Michael wasn't well. I thought it a sign of insecurity and he was doing drugs.

Karen Faye Kissinger: Not all of you silly…but some people do ask this question and they do not understand how, if I truly cared about Michael, I could let Michael continue, knowing he was doing drugs and too thin to be able to do the shows.

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Note: add a McDonald's reference and mix Klein into the pot and you got the testimony reported in TMZ.