Michael jackson: Sabotaged ‘work of genius’ to be relaunched

[teli-mj]

do we have solid proof that this idiot is a pedophile?

Yes, and even if we didn't the book is a load of bull..t. The guy hasn't talked to MJ nor at the boys OR THE GIRLS, who he conveniently doesn't mention in his book i guess, who spend time with Mike. He is basing his "research" on tabloid fairytales and of course in his desire to portray Mike as one of his kind.You can find who this guy is in the net. The worst part is that accademincs support his work. They should be ashemed of themselves

 

[HIStory]

can we sabotage this again?

Hopefully. But we need to do it wisely. These people want media time, controversy, so that they can publicly discuss their sick ideas. So I think we shouldn't do anything that may bring more attention to this book than it has now. Informing the Estate is a good idea. Hopefully they can do something against it that would stop it, yet it won't put this book into the headlines.

 

[Lucilla]

ok , respect.

 

[MJultimatemusiclegen]

Outrageous!

 

[Resa]

Hopefully. But we need to do it wisely. These people want media time, controversy, so that they can publicly discuss their sick ideas. So I think we shouldn't do anything that may bring more attention to this book than it has now. Informing the Estate is a good idea. Hopefully they can do something against it that would stop it, yet it won't put this book into the headlines.

Are you working with anyone to come up with a game plan? If so let us know how we can help.

 

[Rudolf]

Even when Michael is dead, they can't stop assaulting him with this crap. :angry:
I wish they could show him some respect..
R.I.P.

 

[la_cienega]

For example, he talked to the Robsons.

He lied, he never spoke to them, just like he lied about speaking to the Barnes family.

He claimed he met the Robsons on the street because they were homeless because of MJ.... yarite.

Brett denied ever having any contact with them.

These people are sick.

 

[HIStory]

Are you working with anyone to come up with a game plan? If so let us know how we can help.

No, I don't have a plan, but I think if fans write mails to the Estate and ask them if they can stop it somehow is a good idea. My advise is that if you write to the Estate then please let them know who these people are and where these people are coming from. Hopefully they can handle the situation so that it won't give this book any more public interest.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

I don't even think I read the first sense. My eyes caught "young boys" and I gave up.

 

[HIStory]

He lied, he never spoke to them, just like he lied about speaking to the Barnes family.

He claimed he met the Robsons on the street because they were homeless because of MJ.... yarite.

Brett denied ever having any contact with them.

These people are sick.

He lied about a lot of things, so yes, maybe it was a lie about the Robsons too. But it's true he was lurking around people in Michael's environment and that he whispered in their ears what to tell the media and then to the authorities. This is from an interview of Gutierrez that he gave to GQ in 2006.

("For the next five years" means the period after in 1986 when he attended the NAMBLA conference! In the GQ article he doesn't tell it was a NAMBLA conference, however in a German article (in a German paper that has a history of supporting pedophiles!) he discloses that! Throughout the whole German article Gutierrez is supportive of pedophilia! He didn't dare to be that open in US or UK magazines, but he was in that German paper!)

From: http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/20...ictor-gutierrez-is-a-suspected-nambla-member/

Since the article is based on Gutierrez's words, please ignore the negative innuendo of it, the whole article is like that - as usual in the media about Michael -, however it's very revealing about Gutierrez. From this and the interview he gave to that German paper during the trial, you can very well put the pieces together, his NAMBLA connection (in his book's foreword he even thanks NAMBLA!) as well as his role in ALL of this shit becomes very clear!

During the trial Ralph Chacon, Adrian McManus and Kassim Abdool too admitted they have met Gutierrez. We know the Chandlers were in contact with him too. We know the Francias were in contact with him. We know Martin Bashir was in contact with him too. We know Diane Dimond was in contact with him too. Now let's do the math!

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

So basically these people are pro-pedophilia and want to 'convince' people that MJ was one as well? It sounds beyond sick....but that's basically what it is?

 

[myosotis]

I already wrote an email to 'Dangerousbooks.com' but I doubt it will make much difference. The author is basically self-publishing this book so I guess it won't get picked up by the mainstream retailers and I hope it's ignored by the media but given the content, I guess it's the kind of thing they will want to print in their 'rags'.
The Estate should be able to at least write a nasty legal letter to the owners of the site, which will mean very little outlay to them but may be enough to put the frighteners on them.
What makes me laugh is the comment that the book is thoroughly/well researched. I'm guessing all the research is based on tabloid stories and other books about MJ. Not an accurate basis for writing a factual book IMO. You can't write a factual, accurate book based on sensationlism and lazy journalism. It just doesn't add up.

Well its on sale via Amazon at the moment.

 

[myosotis]

So basically these people are pro-pedophilia and want to 'convince' people that MJ was one as well? It sounds beyond sick....but that's basically what it is?

Yes. The author says that 'loving pedophiles who respect childrens feelings don't deserve to be demonised.'
I think I might just throw up after writing that sentence.

 

[la_cienega]

So basically these people are pro-pedophilia and want to 'convince' people that MJ was one as well? It sounds beyond sick....but that's basically what it is?

Yes. A lot of the big haters who have various blogs also feel this way. They believe Michael is a way to get their position out in public and discussed. It's utterly bizarre and sick.

Just to let people know: The Estate has responded to emails saying they know about this and they will do everything is legally in their power to stop it.

 

[Indra]

Whatever you guys need from me to stop this - I'm in!!
This has gone far enough, people have no freaking respect for anything or anyone!!

 

[la_cienega]

Yes. The author says that 'loving pedophiles who respect childrens feelings don't deserve to be demonised.'
I think I might just throw up after writing that sentence.

Stuff like that is funny - they believe he's a pedophile and yet ignore the actual evidence in the cases said by the supposed victims! It just reveals how ignorant they are.

Jordan claimed MJ threatened to hurt his parents and send him to juvie, if he ever told anyone. And Gavin claimed that Michael would get him so drunk, in order to abuse him, that he couldn't remember what happened the next day. This supposedly happen when he was recovering from cancer, and being kidnapped and held against his will by Michael and his associates. Now, how exactly is that loving????

These people have no desire to discuss the allegations, just to continue to distort and lie in order to push their cause.

 

[Lucilla]

Just to let people know: The Estate has responded to emails saying they know about this and they will do everything is legally in their power to stop it.

Ok, I'll pray the law allow them to do something about this.

 

[maral]

Yes, and even if we didn't the book is a load of bull..t. The guy hasn't talked to MJ nor at the boys OR THE GIRLS, who he conveniently doesn't mention in his book i guess, who spend time with Mike. He is basing his "research" on tabloid fairytales and of course in his desire to portray Mike as one of his kind.You can find who this guy is in the net. The worst part is that accademincs support his work. They should be ashemed of themselves

i agree but if we can prove it it would be easy to stop this crap from being published.

 

[Ankita]

The estate must be informed, esp about the criminal background of the author!

BUT we must not wait for the estae to act! Just like last time, WE'VE GOT TO WRITE in millions and STOP this shit from being published!

 

[Sophielo]

Great, why am I not suprised? All about the £$ at the end of the day.

 

[maral]

Yes. The author says that 'loving pedophiles who respect childrens feelings don't deserve to be demonised.'
I think I might just throw up after writing that sentence.

wow and they call michael sick...... this is disgusting.

The estate must be informed, esp about the criminal background of the author!

BUT we must not wait for the estae to act! Just like last time, WE'VE GOT TO WRITE in millions and STOP this shit from being published!

agree we must act NOW! where do i write?

 

[teli-mj]

I think that if some of you want to write regarding the book, then you should write directly to the publication house or whatever. The important thing is to not bring attention to the issue like it was done with that horrible statue. The more attention to the book by our comments, the more free advertisment to it. We should act in a way that the book or the whole issue doesn't get any advertisment by us.

 

[Ankita]

Someone said its being self-published by the author. I hope the estae can threaten to sue their ass off if they decide to publish this.

 

[bluetopez]

Chandler did say it was all according to a plan. The setup was clear. The same people that would want u to believe that MJ was Guilty and that they were all for children like Diane Dimond were all backing up real pedophiles in the background! How much more disgusting can u get?! I really am not surprise, they were way to hell bent in blaming MJ for so many yrs with no evidence, that it was obvious it was all setup from the beginning!

 

[Hess]

Bs

 

[mdiegee210]

I don't think we should protest,wait for the book to come out and after he makes his tv appearances them we should ask for equal time to clear MJ. name. To let the people know who he is and why he is doing this. So lets do our home work, and fight back.

 

[Alma]

Please write this on the thread title because fans should know it in order to act accordingly. The author of this book, Carl Toms, is a convicted pedophile. Whoever wrote this article is clueless and/or an advocate of pedophilia.

0..0 That is precisely what I meant to write in my initial post here (but abstained so as not to go as far as judge further without actual conviction).. the words he used about Michael and children seemed typical of child molesters, and haven't even studied them -- but some really disturbing vibes can be felt, then you know this isn't how a normal being would express themselves..

 

[Alma]

You need to be aware people that this is pedophile propaganda using Michael's name! The author Carl Toms (real name: Thomas O'Caroll) is a convicted pedophile!

All those professors who are cited in support of the book are pedophiles too!

Here you can find more about the background of it:

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/carl-toms-book/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/20...but-welcome-thomas-ocarroll-is-it-the-answer/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/meet-the-guys-who-recommend-carl-toms-book/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/20...e-guys-who-recommended-carl-toms-book-part-2/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/20...ault-on-michael-jackson-he-wasnt-one-of-them/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/a-call-to-arms-against-carl-toms-book/

You also need to know that the pedophile maffia were who triggered the accusations against Michael through their man who is none other than Victor Gutierrez. They planned it since 1986 and they finally found their man in Evan Chandler, the rest is history. Sounds too fantastic? Well, take a look at it yourself:

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/20...philes-was-michaels-persecution-a-big-p-plan/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/20...of-professors-who-recommended-carl-toms-book/

Some real bombshells on here. ..Thanks for posting. ... Wish I could say I'm surprised about any of this.. but all of the heinous actions against Michael and how they all came about reeked of foul play, to be light... And, yeah, horrifyingly so, paedophile mafia is alive and kicking, one single hint would be Toddlers and Tiaras and it's enough.

Wasn't that survey that 1 in 6 male Americans were sexually abused as children...?

Anyway... That's really shocking to read of this sick agenda, always will be. ..Not gonna read through it, enough for me to know Gutierrez was linked with Nambla from the get-go... But such detailed plans to put a man down so disgustingly will always be shocking, regardless. .. ): *feel sick*

 

[shba1]

How can I help please. Where can I find the Estate's email address? It will never stop will it? Well we will never stop either, we stopped them before we will do it again.

 

[athina_livadi]

Thomas Victor O'Carroll (born 1945) is a dual nationality Irish/British writerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_O'Carroll#cite_note-0 activist for pedophilia and pedophilia advocacy, and a convicted distributor of child pornography. O 'Carroll is a former chairperson of the now defunct Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and was at one time a prominent member of IPCE, formerly known as International Paedophile and Child Emancipation.

We need to inform the MJJEstate directly. Any email available?