MJAN Open Letter to the Jackson Family - UPDATE MJAN 2nd Open letter PG 19 (Not a MJJC letter)

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So why is it to say Joe is a monster but not okay to say Katherine is greedy?
 
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So why is it to say Joe is a monster but not okay to say Katherine is greedy?


I know Joe to be a monster from day one (as an observing mj fan) proven MANY, MANY times, I don't know Katherine to be "greedy" (as an observing fan of Mj through the years). Starting as of late I've been hearing/seeing her being refered to as such (which I can see why a lot may see it that way)....For me, personally, I dare say I want to maintain fairness.... Ultimately I dnt know why Katherine is allowing/going through with certain things. I'm not choosing to be blind..I just dnt know. It would be easy for me to say the woman is greedy, but it certainly is not as easy for me to understand why she's engaging in certain things. I really do want to know why and Im not close enough to know why & I haven't heard/seen her address this, maybe I never will. So my question still remains and I personally want to refrain from calling her greedy.
 
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I support this letter 100%. The tone is appropriate under these circumstances.

The Jackson brothers have always been big-headed thanks to Michael's success (just look at how lots of his brothers now call themselves a "dynasty"), have lived a carefree life thanks to Michael's generosity (and instead of budget with the received money some of them have blown it). They are just simple musicians, no smart men.
Now they wonder why many fans neither trust nor have much respect for them with all the dubious things they have done (e.g. Randy disappeared with the fans' donated money through MJJSource without a word; Jermaine introduced Tohme Tohme to Michael; Katherine signed a deal with Howard Mann - as she's too old and very naive [which btw she's tramsitted to her son Michael], the same person Janet and Michael have sued previously; Joe is exploiting Michael's name - again - for merchandizing; some family members claim that Michael's last will would be faked because they neither accept nor understand why Michael didn't want them to control his estate).

And let's not forget that the same persons that now complain about not receiving much respect from the fans are those that have supported and PUBLICLY encouraged fans to hate/attack the Cascio family. So it's okay to dictate L.O.V.E. towards them (simply because they are MJ's family) but H.A.T.E. towards others???

Remember Taryll Jackson's "oh-so-magnificent" words with heavy accusations:
Taryll Jackson (3T) said:
How they constructed these songs is very sneaky and sly. many people who have worked on this project either have strong doubts and questions while others KNOW the truth yet decided to turn and look the other way with their hands out for $$$. I will NEVER look the other way. Right is Right, Truth is Truth, Facts are Facts and it will all come out!!! I tried so hard to prevent this craziness, but they wouldn't listen. I KNOW my Uncle's voice and something's seriously wrong when you have immediate FAMILY saying it's not him.
[...]
We are still waiting for confirmation that the statement yesterday by Howard Weitzman (on behalf of the estate) is real and official. There are many blatant inaccuracies and omissions which makes me think it is not. I'm waiting on a phone call or the statement to be posted on an official site (such as michaeljackson.com) before I respond.
[...]
You will hear my story because this is way too important for my Uncle's legacy. The truth will prevail.
[...]
Frank hurt and betrayed my Uncle years ago, so when I learned about Eddie I wasn't completely shocked. The names are different but the story's the same. People taking advantage of my Uncle and now his legacy. I wish Oprah would have asked about the ridiculous amount these FAKE songs were sold to the estate for.


Nothing but much hot air. Fine words butter no parsnips - talk is cheap!
So the Jackson family shall know Michael so much better (as he's emphasiszing so beautifully)? Unfortunately reality has proven us the contrary: Michael has chosen to distance himself from most of his family in great measure and has spent more time with the Cascio family (which he called his "first family of love") than with his own family in his last years. Some of the Jacksons have shown much disrespect/jealousy and hatred towards the Cascio family as a result.
Furthermore you can see that Taryll is talking about $$$ on every occascion and that his lovely family should manage Michael's estate. Yes, exactly because you aren't money-grubbing at all, you would never line your own pockets (Oops!), you aren't incapable of being economical (you would have even increased Michael's debt mountain) etc. Not to mention you have tried several times to get rid of both of the MJ Estate's co-executors John McClain and John Branca.

And where's his "story"? Ain't it "way too important for [his] Uncle's legacy". You can't be fainéant, especially when you would have to act before any criminal and claims subject to private law are at risk of limitation of claim. Yeah, you can slander for all eternity but there's no everlasting room to act.
No, how marvelous, this charade.

More probably Taryll is busy with preparing for rehearsing for the ill-fated "tribute concert"...

At least some doubters' one-and-only chance named "Birchey" who'll soon be trying to do what Taryll just claimed to do has more courage than them.




Annex: tweets to Taryll Jackson (no response, of course):

@tarylljackson U complain about some fans being hateful 2 ur family, yet u support and publicly encouraged fans to hate the Cascio family?
@tarylljackson And instead of proving that ur accusations against Cascio would b true, u r doing absolutely NOTHING about it.
@tarylljackson You've claimed that Frank Cascio betrayed MJ. U said this: U'll hear my story because this is way 2 important for MJ's legacy
@tarylljackson U can't demand that fans trust u when u r bad-mouthing the Cascio family without any proof. U even call MJ's will faked.
@tarylljackson What r u waiting 4? It's easy 2 attack others and 2 claim to know "the truth". U r doing nothing 2 prove ur claims though!
@tarylljackson On the 12th of September 2011 a fan is going 2 accuse the Cascio family of fraud, assured by ur claims. But u r doing NOTHING
 
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I know Joe to be a monster from day one (as an observing mj fan) proven MANY, MANY times, I don't know Katherine to be "greedy" (as an observing fan of Mj through the years). Starting as of late I've been hearing her being refered to as such (which I can see why a lot may see it that way)....For me, personally I dare say I want to maintain fairness.... Ultimately I dnt know why Katherine is allowing/going through with certain things. I'm not choosing to be blind..I just dnt know. It would be easy for me to say the woman is greedy, but it certainly is not as easy for me to understand why she's engaging in certain things. I really do want to know why and Im not close enough to know why & I haven't heard/seen her address this, maybe I never will. So my question still remains and I personally want to refrain from calling her greedy.

Let me say first of all, I am not for calling people names (although I have occasionally called La Toya "La Tonta" but I have made an effort to stop doing that. And I have called Joe Jackson some awful things that I will not apologise for).

However, if I am understanding you correctly - we need more time and evidence before we call Katherine "greedy". Either that or we need to extend the courtesy of being open-minded to Joe Jackson.
 
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Let me say first of all, I am not for calling people names (although I have occasionally called La Toya "La Tonta" but I have made an effort to stop doing that. And I have called Joe Jackson some awful things that I will not apologise for).

However, if I am understanding you correctly - we need more time and evidence before we call Katherine "greedy". Either that or we need to extend the courtesy of being open-minded to Joe Jackson.


No....not at all saying what fans need. I also don't think it will hurt to know what's going on in her (Katherines) mind though. Atleast for me. Now open minded to Joe is like an impossibility, those words and his name doesn't even belong in the same sentence IMO and perhaps many others....We have all seen & heard about Joe in addition even from horses mouth through the years. But really I'm speaking on my behalf.
 
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Ok. It just seems that we find it easier to accept that Joe is how he is but we give Mrs Jackson the benefit of the doubt. It would be interesting to explore why.
 
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Years ago I read LaToya's first book and the only part that stuck in the back of my mind is that LaToya stated that her mother would 'throw stones then hide her hands', it seemed that she was implying that sometimes Joe was her fall guy. Now I'm not suggesting that LaToya is a reliable source, but i have wondered if there was any truth in it.

If Katherine is greedy then I think her greed is fuelled by her desire to fund the rest of the clan, I think that trait has been there for many years, in fact it is documented. All of the Jackson's know if they want anything then they needed to get Katherine onside to put pressure on other members of the family, and now that seems to extend to us fans, get KJ and we will all follow.

It's hard not to believe that KJ is greedy because of her actions, we all know that Michael supported his Mother and provided for her future but all we see is KJ wanting more, and at any cost.
 
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  • About M.J.A.N. – W.A.T.C.H.
Okay, I have looked all over the website and didn't find an a single actual name, only 'we'/group hiding behind an organization.

You may remember Michael fondly as the brother, son, uncle, and cousin that he was, but please do so quietly, amongst yourselves.
Beg your pardon? :blink:

Seriously, I almost want to counteract that sentence alone with "NOT IN MY NAME".





...You are not actually a dynasty, nor are you royalty with a kingdom. There is only one living Michael Jackson sibling with a high-level career. That is Janet, and she earned it. The rest of you would be wise to pursue your own projects and careers. Modesty is a virtue, and describing yourselves as a dynasty has become an embarrassment.
Yeah, a rare one at that.


I am not a Jackson family fan- but I wished the individuals who wrote this letter would have the guts to sign (on their website, on the letter- somewhere) with their names.
That is the kind of letter you send anonymous- sign with your names, not hide behind your blog.

Having said that, the Howard Mann story was my last straw in many aspects- but this kind of patronizing letter writing in anonymity makes my skin crawl.

The issues of family member's attempts to undermine the Estate is something many fans are concerned with- but it's one thing to stick with the issues and another to add remarks that are reminiscent of divorce court alas "10 things I always hated about you"- and that is what comes across, not so much the concern for the children's well being.
 
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I've always thought that the best thing to do here if some don't like the Jacksons or their actions is to simply not support or buy their products and move on! Arguing back and forth with/about them or eachother is a waste of time and very tiresome already!
 
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Why is this letter causing so much of an uproar? I'm like damn it's just some fans venting. I've seen more harsh words and tone on other blogs so why is this open letter being scrutinized? Hell, back in the day we went in on members of the Jackson family and some of Michael's team straight in their faces.

I don't know. Guess I'm too old for this ish... :rofl:

Look people are gonna have differing opinions. Some are more bold than others. Agree or disagree with the tone and contents of the letter but one thing for sure is that it ripped off a scab and the wound is now opened. Maybe this can cause proper healing? Who knows... One can only hope.
 
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What can we all do as fans to HEAL?? That's the question!
 
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I have deleted two posts.

Let us keep this discussion civil.
 
I've always thought that the best thing to do here if some don't like the Jacksons or their actions is to simply not support or buy their products and move on! Arguing back and forth with/about them or eachother is a waste of time and very tiresome already!

I agree. To me there is no point in getting mad at someone who doesn't even know you exist. They have your blood boiling but I highly doubt their blood pressures are going up over what we think.

For example: Recently I seen the info about Joe judging some modeling competition, I just shook my head and was like "when will this man ever stop". Same goes for Jermaine and him reshooting that video.... I just read the thread title, shook my head and kept going.
I'm not saying don't voice concerns or disappointments at all, BUT WHY continue to beat that dead horse and get all worked up, fustrated, agitated, etc. over something that somebody does in their personal lives that we don't know personally?!?!

If you don't like them ignore them and don't support them. Because I'm sure they aren't gonna change because some fans decided to write them a letter telling them they should. Put all of this energy elsewhere
 
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I agree. To me there is no point in getting mad at someone who doesn't even know you exist. They have your blood boiling but I highly doubt their blood pressures are going up over what we think.

For example: Recently I seen the info about Joe judging some modeling competition, I just shook my head and was like "when will this man ever stop". Same goes for Jermaine and him reshooting that video.... I just read the thread title, shook my head and kept going.
I'm not saying don't voice concerns or disappointments at all, BUT WHY continue to beat that dead horse and get all worked up, fustrated, agitated, etc. over something that somebody does in their personal lives that we don't know personally?!?!

If you don't like them ignore them and don't support them. Because I'm sure they aren't gonna change because some fans decided to write them a letter telling them they should. Put all of this energy elsewhere

By the same token, we should not keep batting our head against the wall when it comes to Dr Drew, Diane Dimond (sp) and anyone else who has defamed Michael.

I feel we can respectfully challenge anyone who portrays Michael in an inaccurate light or who wants to use him for personal financial gain.

I agree that we should not bash them for bashing them sake. Not everything is to be criticised and condemned. Personally I do not comment when the family members are doing their own (no matter how outlandish or comical). But when their activities and projects are clearly using or exploiting Michael or his children - again I feel we can respectfully challenge that.
 
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The letter is what it is, and actually is a LOT milder than some of the stuff I see posted right HERE. There is no "name-calling," i.e. no mention of "monsters," or "greed," for example! (No "Latonta," either.)

What we can do to HEAL? Look toward the trial, now, and be united for justice for MICHAEL. As far as his family is concerned? Personally, the "family" that matters to me now, and always, are his CHILDREN. I hope to God they are protected from hearing the trial coverage. . . . . . . . They probably WON'T be, though, given their internet usage?
 
What can we all do as fans to HEAL?? That's the question!

Just try to ignore them and all the negative things that surrounds MJ and focus more on the positive.
That not only goes for the family but for what anybody else and their negativity. Just don't pay it any mind because I feel that people are gonna do/ think how they want to.. N sending someone a long nasty rant over the internet isn't gonna change it. I have no problems when we try to spread THE TRUTH about MJ... but when our messages become long harsh rants I don't support it because its just gonna do the opposite of what we want it to
 
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By the same token, we should not keep batting our head against the wall when it comes to Dr Drew, Diane Dimond (sp) and anyone else who has defamed Michael.

I feel we can respectfully challenge anyone who portrays Michael in an inaccurate light or who wants to use him for personal financial gain.

I agree that we should not bash them for bashing them sake. Not everything is to be criticised and condemned. Personally I do not comment when the family members are doing their own (no matter how outlandish or comical). But when their activities and projects are clearly using or exploiting Michael or his children - again I feel we can respectfully challenge that.

N I wholeheartedly agree..
After all these years of letters, emails and protest has D. Diamond changed her stance on MJ?!?! NOPE!!!!!!! BUT after all these years everytime she says something WE fans are the ones that are upset. N that goes for others, not just her
 
What we can do to HEAL? Look toward the trial, now, and be united for justice for MICHAEL.

I agree... for the next few months we are gonna need it the most. We also can't always get mad when someone says something negative or for the next few months we will be some highly upset people. I'm sure MJ didn't sit around and dwell on all of the negative people thought of him and we should do the same.
 
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But, for me the Jacksons make it much more harder to go against because they have Mj's Blood. They use this as their advantage to get things! And we all know that's the reason why we are really upset because fam shouldn't be acting like that! It's more fustrating when I see some of the things they say or do. While the others like Dimond and Co. just do it because he is not related to them and it's easy money to bash a celeb, it's like a damn hobbie to these "journalist."

But, I also know that against the family their is less chance of a victory here against them because of that bloodline. They will always have many fans backing them up just because of that alone and others to get into bussiness with them because of it. And The fact that Mj left his kids in the care of his mother knowing the rest of the family will be right their aswell, is another dead end IMO!

So I have no problem with fams speakin out! But, don't get ur hopes up is what I'm saying!
 
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What can we all do as fans to HEAL?? That's the question!

I think true healing will come in time. When Michael's murderer is put in his place and when reality settles with the family and all the leeches stop tossing Michael's wishes by the wayside for greed.

Fans want peace and safety for Michael's children and to see his legacy honored. None of this will happen over night because it isn't in our's or Michael's hands.

I only hope the fighting and ignorance stops. Everyone has opinions and nothing makes mine better then yours but they are our opininons and we have every right to stand by them. No one needs to be ugly over what another thinks. What is obvious is how facts are always staggering.

Michael is about happiness and love. That healing will come in time. I'm sure of it. Drama will always be but the open wounds will close.
 
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:angel::wub:Just wanted to share some Michael LOVE and LIGHT
..for healing for life..:flowers::hug:


[YOUTUBE]HAGY7atMhCs[/YOUTUBE]

It's no coincidence that as I do this the
radio station over the intercom at my job is
now playing
Michael's "Billie Jean"
.. :clapping::angel::clap:

I L.O.V.E you all MORE..
:wub::woohoo::bow:
 
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:angel::agree::clapping::clap: 100% in agreement :flowers::angel::hug:



I think true healing will come in time. When Michael's murderer is put in his place and when reality settles with the family and all the leeches stop tossing Michael's wishes by the wayside for greed.

Fans want peace and safety for Michael's children and to see his legacy honored. None of this will happen over night because it isn't in our's or Michael's hands.

I only hope the fighting and ignorance stops. Everyone has opinions and nothing makes mine better then yours but they are our opininons and we have every right to stand by them. No one needs to be ugly over what another thinks. What is obvious is how facts are always staggering.

Michael is about happiness and love. That healing will come in time. I'm sure of it. Drama will always be but the open wounds will close .
 
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Ok, I assume.... -_- It was I who started this thing La Tonta :eek: :doh: .... Does MJJC should punish me for it? :unsure:




:fear: *big sigh*
 
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:angel::agree::clapping::clap: 100% in agreement :flowers::angel::hug:



Okay, I have looked all over the website and didn't find an a single actual name, only 'we'/group hiding behind an organization.


Beg your pardon? :blink:

Seriously, I almost want to counteract that sentence alone with "NOT IN MY NAME".






Yeah, a rare one at that.


I am not a Jackson family fan- but I wished the individuals who wrote this letter would have the guts to sign (on their website, on the letter- somewhere) with their names.
That is the kind of letter you send anonymous- sign with your names, not hide behind your blog.

Having said that, the Howard Mann story was my last straw in many aspects- but this kind of patronizing letter writing in anonymity makes my skin crawl.

The issues of family member's attempts to undermine the Estate is something many fans are concerned with- but it's one thing to stick with the issues and another to add remarks that are reminiscent of divorce court alas "10 things I always hated about you"- and that is what comes across, not so much the concern for the children's well being.
 
Loveliness;3474939 said:
Criticizing certain actions taken, or poor decisions made, does not equal hate. Many MJ fans, have at one point, been fans of the Jackson family (and clearly a number still are). But it's what they've publicly done, especially over the past two years, that has made us open our eyes.

I don't feel hatred for the Jackson's, however, I am strongly disappointed in their actions. How has what they've done been beneficial for Michael, his legacy, justice over his death, or his children? His parents have hawked Michael's children in front of the media to promote cheap perfume and various other merchandise/money making schemes — knowing that Michael did not want to raise his kids in the spotlight. Then, there's them striking deals with shady business partners like Howard Mann, and willingly signing the kids into contracts (which isn't legally viable to begin with). His sisters have alluded that he was a drug addict at the time of his death and that they tried interventions — but they can't provide any facts about this nor can they remember when these supposed interventions took place. And sure enough, it now appears Murray's defence is going the drug addict route. Not to mention that while Michael was living Katherine, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Jackie, all signed an open let to the media where it states:



And all this is just scratching the tip of the iceberg.

You even have Katherine herself expressing criticism of Michael (now that he's passed and can't defend himself) in the interview she did with Oprah. Yet in turn we cannot criticize the Jackson family for their own poor public actions? If people want to be fans of the Jackson family, that's their choice. But loving someone doesn't mean blind and careless devotion. There's such a thing as tough love, and taking a stand to let someone know they're "doing wrong".

When it comes to what Michael thinks of his family, listen to his own words: "tight knit my ass."

[video=youtube;OAzarSbfPEk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAzarSbfPEk&feature=share[/video]

(Here is a link in case the embedding doesn't work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAzarSbfPEk&feature=share)

As for the letter, it could have been written in a more diplomatic matter, but I agree with the points made. I understand the frustration too. I know many fans have tried to reach out tactfully to the family about their concerns, but it's continuously fallen on deaf ears.

Poor michael it was like all his life he was trying to find himself and be michael jackson without ppl using him for his name & $$$
and the sad thing is the ppl who used him the most was his own family most of the time :(. Sorry if what i just wrote offened anyone but that is how i feel especially after watching that video loveliness posted
 
I am totally against insulting people ... I'm all for telling the truth, no matter how it is difficult to accept...

I was believing in the good intentions of the family ..for long time...
I feel disappointed and discouraged right now.

Unfortunately, after recent events, my patience has completely run out .. I don't know the family, never talked to them. I realize how many things I don't know, how much is happening behind closed doors ..

However, When you're watching things from the perspective you must honstly say it, something is very wrong.
..The worst thing is using these children .... How else what is happenig recently can be interpreted .. Like other events can be interpreted in different ways, because we don't know everything, this picture of Paris holding a bottle of perfume is clear ..You cannot have any doubt that something is very wrong ...

I have one piece of advice for the family. It is sincere on my part and I hope it's not offensive in any way. Dear family, if you want to be treated with respect, let the dialogue make possible, just open up to this dialogue. Tell us openly what is going on …and gave us the chance to make the dialog in a civilized manner, give us the possibility to make our concerns to be hear..
So far, there was never a dialog..because you never honestly answered our questions..never..
Taj said we don't know 100 things that are taking place ... and that's it? That is the whole answer? So may we now have some fun in guessing what is it…? This is not the answer..

I can see only an endless monologue and just self- delight .. as if Michael's fans are for providing the audience ...
Writing books and interviews? ... and we just do applause ?...


Closing up in the golden castle, in an unreal world…is not the solution..

Please, wake up ..

We want justice for your brother, we want what is the best for the legacy of your family member ... Fans are not evil people, are not people from another planet. They have feelings, hearts … they have their own mind. Treat them seriously and respectfully, and you receive the same in return ..

peace..
 
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