[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I was wondering how long it would take for the press to pick up on these graphic stories of Wade's. I think the same as others, they want to use bad press to push the estate towards a settlement. We need to make sure we get our evidence of Wade's lying together because now that the press has grabbed this there will be a lot of discussion about it outside the fan community. I can guarantee there will be people who will believe this because of previous allegations and because Wade's story is graphic. Be prepared for people who know you're an MJ fan to start firing questions and misplaced moral outrage.


That the plan.

The ppls already believe this because of 1993 and 2003 their mind has not change at all. What get me is a jury found Michael Not Guilty do you think that change the ppls minds no way.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So sick of this shit! :8-25-03bomb:
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Setting aside the fact that this is total bullshit, how can estate executors attest to any of Michael's actions? Actions alledgedly committed in the privacy of MJ's home and bedrooms -- per WR's own admission.

They know it can't be answered, but they don't care, they just wanted to get this information out into the public, they are trying this case in the court of public opinion.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

They can't and they know that. It gives them headlines but they will fade
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I say it again if Michael was here you wouldn't see this from WR.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I was expecting these kind of graphic details to come out sooner or later but I'm still disgusted by reading them.. :no:

Something else though, I wonder if anyone else finds this odd.. When WR talks about the 'role play' conversations, he claims Michael manipulated him into keeping all of this to himself because if he told anyone 'both our careers will be over' (I thought he never said anything because he believed nothing wrong happened, it was all 'consensual' and 'out of love' -impossible to believe if you read what he claims Michael did to him- but ok..)
It always struck me as such a strange thing to say to a child, our careers will be over, I mean he was SEVEN years old! What kid is gonna be quiet about something horrible as getting raped, in fear of a failed career?! I just wonder.. if you're gonna make things up, WHY would you come up with that?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Besides wanting to put pressure on the Estate to settle, that mother fuker and his lawyers came up with such brutal claims to have support from the media. No one have heard of it but now with such headlines, I'm afraid it's gonna change.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Setting aside the fact that this is total bullshit, how can estate executors attest to any of Michael's actions? Actions alledgedly committed in the privacy of MJ's home and bedrooms -- per WR's own admission.

yep and if you read the letters you will see that they sent similar requests at probate case, estate replied with denying it based on lack of knowledge and Robson's lawyers filed motion to compel further answers. I mean do they really think that Michael called Branca and told him about his sex life or even more stupider do they really think Michael called Branca and told him his alleged child sexual abuse actions?

They know it can't be answered, but they don't care, they just wanted to get this information out into the public, they are trying this case in the court of public opinion.

And it's all about forcing Estate to settle. Because not only they can respond to those, they cannot really defend against them either. There are 2 witnesses to private interactions between Michael and Wade , Michael and Wade and Michael is dead.
 
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They are making this as scandalous and horrid as possible. It's really the only card they have to play. I think they are anticipating that this case will never make it to court. And if it did, this case will be shredded to bits on the stand into a big loss due to Wade's own previous actions.

Wade has himself some pitbulls now (lawfirm), and he's unleashed them to try to humiliate the estate into making a settlement.

No one has ever accused Michael of any sort of violent crime like rape. Even his biggest critics like Diane Dimond, Nancy Grace, Victor G., etc. It doesn't add up. Even for the people who have believed he was guilty in the past, must be having a hard time believing this.
 
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This is an EXTREMELY ignorant question for all you legal minds so please, ignore me if I sound extremely stupid, but if this case is thrown out (as it should be) over the fact that it was filed too late, is there any way the Estate could fight back and bring any kind of legal action against him so that book deals, etc. aren't possible?

I know that that would be much more likely if they were to go to trial and the Estate won, but is there any kind of legal action they could bring against Wade?

Again, please forgive my ignorance. I am simply curious! haha

Also, one more question. Any ideas as to why these documents are just now "being released"?
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Looking at the lurid headlines, just goes to show how sick the media industry has become. Makes my stomach turn.

This is like in '93 with Feldman playing his case through the press to gain public support for the Chandlers claims.

And of 'course WR's side brings up the old song and dance about his bedroom alarm. Old rehash from '05. I'm really getting sick of his bs. I feel for Michael's children. God their too young to have to deal with all of this.
 
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And it's all about forcing Estate to settle. Because not only they can respond to those, they cannot really defend against them either. There are 2 witnesses to private interactions between Michael and Wade , Michael and Wade and Michael is dead.

Yep. That is pretty much the game plan. So obvious. But will that work? I strongly doubt.

This is just another bully tactic, making sound bites. but it won't get them anywhere.

The reality is that WR can't get around the status of limitation, can't get around the fact that MJ is dead and as such cannot be prosecuted, also that his corporate entities cannot be prosecuted either.

so all this dance and maneuvering are just waste of time.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Looking at the lurid headlines, just goes to show how sick the media industry has become. Makes my stomach turn.

This is like in '93 with Feldman playing his case through the press to gain public support for the Chandlers claims.

And of 'course WR's side brings up the old song and dance about his bedroom alarm. Old rehash from '05. I'm really getting sick of his bs. I feel for Michael's children. God their too young to have to deal with all of this.

To be honest the media have not obsessed so much about this as those previous allegations. probably because they all know this, along the previous ones, is blatant bullshit. a dude trying to get rich by betraying his friend through false allegations. they've seen that script before. nothing new.

and quite frankly people in general are just tired of all these unproven allegations. they wanna move on.
 
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To be honest the media have not obsessed so much about this as those previous allegations. probably because they all know this, along the previous one, is blatant bullshit. a dude trying to get rich by betraying his friend through false allegations. they've seen that script already. nothing new.

and quite frankly people in general are just tired of all these unproven allegations. they wanna move on.

I hope that's true and it stays that way. I just hate the ones who have written it. I'm not so sure, they didn't know it was bs before though. Just ignored facts for money.
 
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Even though I (I bet all of you as well) miss Michael so bad, I'm glad he's not here to know about such disgusting betrayal at the same time. I really wonder if that bastard would have dared to betray him in life once the money run out of his pockets. Michael would be heartbroken and furious if he knew.
 
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To be honest the media have not obsessed so much about this as those previous allegations. probably because they all know this, along the previous ones, is blatant bullshit. a dude trying to get rich by betraying his friend through false allegations. they've seen that script before. nothing new.

and quite frankly people in general are just tired of all these unproven allegations. they wanna move on.

I think the media lack of overall interest has more to do with Michael being dead so it is not like 93 and 05 when they can watched him squirm and defend himself. Not to mention the fact that Wade defended Michael in a court of law. The DA asked very detail questions and he said no to all of them. From the point-of-view of the public, Wade is unsympathetic and helped get a child molester off. Only the naive or people who really want Michael to be guilty can and will believe that a thirty years old man did not know what child abuse was, especially when connected to Michael Jackson.
 
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I agree! The media can't have their usual fun like back in the day because MJ is dead...so while they will report on it, this story won't get that huge on TV. Maybe a lil big on the internet though....as we see. But, overall this story by Wade is a rehash, of a rehash...and shit like this get TIRED! Same script different cast...all for that MONEY! -_-
 
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I think the media lack of overall interest has more to do with Michael being dead

I agree with this.

Plus Wade had been a defender/supporter of Michael and not accusing him. It makes him quite questionable for the general public IMO.
 
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This is getting even more ridiculous than I thought it would get.
It's like they are adding things just to get the attention that nobody is giving them.

I really hope the Estate won't settle...because that's exactly what Wade wants.
 
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I don't think Wade will be able to work this up to the sensationalized frenzy that was around the allegations in 1993 and 2005. One of the reasons is indeed that MJ is not here and the media cannot salivate over the prospect of him going to jail any more. But I also think people are sceptical too and that he's not an accuser who can invoke a lot of sympathy. Of course, there will always be those who accept any salacious allegation just because a claim is made or because of hatred or prejudice against MJ, but a lot of people do ask the question "why now and why does it come with a monetary demand?" And no matter how you slice it Wade is a liar who either lied all these years, including in 2005 under oath or is lying now. I also think it does seem unfair to people that all these years he had his chance to make these allegations while MJ was here, but he's making them now that he cannot defend himself. I really hope the Judge does the right thing and stop this madness on statues of limitations because it's not like either Wade or James have not had their plenty of opportunities to make such allegations while MJ was alive and while he could defend himself and respond to these allegations. It's not like those cases where alleged victims stay silent because they think they are alone or because the accused is a well respected person in the community about whom no one would believe this. MJ went through two very public rounds of allegations in his lifetime, including a criminal trial where public opinion, the media, law enforcement were largely against him. Wade would only have to walk into the DA's office and he would have been embraced with open arms and celebrated as a brave champion of child abuse victims in the media.

All the excuses Wade brings about why he did not make these claims then, frankly, sound lame. Not knowing, as an adult man, what constitues as sexual abuse. Not knowing, as an adult man, that anal rape would be sexual abuse. Supposedly being coached on the phone with lame ass claims such as "we both go to jail if this comes out" and him believing it as an intelligent adult man. And already there are contradictions there. Did MJ tell him it was loving or did he tell him it was disgusting sexual stuff? How could he have told him both and if he did how did it not raise a red flag in Wade as an adult man at least? Like "Wait a minute! Did he just say disgusting sexual stuff? But I thought it was loving."

On the other hand, the media and haters cannot help themselves. They immediately report these graphic details, when in fact they are just that: allegations. Unproven, uncorroborated. While they totally sleep on much more important details of the case that are going on - eg. the demurrers. These priorities just show the media and general public's understanding of these cases. Unfortunately you cannot expect much more from the general public with the short attention spam people have these days. You can grab their attention with headlines about salacious, graphic claims of sexual abuse, but you cannot with legal stuff. That's what happened in 2005 too. People still keep parroting salacious headlines from that case like "Jesus Juice" not even knowing the details behind those allegations and how they were actually disproven in court by the prosecution's own witnesses.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The new single is coming August 8 . The message they are sending to the estate we are going to ruin every project you have if we are not given what we want. Desperation
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The new single is coming August 8 . The message they are sending to the estate we are going to ruin every project you have if we are not given what we want. Desperation

It didn't work with the timing of Safechuck's allegations for the release of the Xscape album, it won't work now.

By the way...

Wade Robson declaration: "I am no longer in the entertainment business and can never be again."

WADE ROBSON (CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, DIRECTOR)
WAJERO ENTERTAINMENT, INC.
HAWAII FOREIGN PROFIT CORPORATION
Address: 415 Dairy Rd Ste E-504
Kahului, HI 96732
Registered Agent: Wade Robson
Filing Date: January 09, 2014
File Number: 49688 F1


Wajero Entertainment, Inc. is a Hawaii Foreign Profit Corporation filed on January 9, 2014. The company's filing status is listed as Active and its File Number is 49688 F1.

The Registered Agent on file for this company is Wade Robson and is located at 415 Dairy Rd Ste E-504 Kahului, HI 96732. The company's mailing address is 415 Dairy Rd Ste E-504 Kahului, HI 96732.

The company has 1 principal on record. The principal is Wade Robson.

http://www.bizapedia.com/hi/WAJERO-ENTERTAINMENT-INC.html

Wajero existed before, I think he just filed a couple of changes, like the address is now in Hawaii and the registered agent is him instead of Gary Haber. Also, instead of president now he is listed as chief executive officer and director.

But considering he claims he cannot work in the entertainment industry any more and never will be again, it's interesting he keeps up his entertainment business...

From his lawsuit: "Plaintiff is unable to continue writing songs or producing music, as well as being unable to continue performing and directing in any manner or capacity whatsoever."

Chantal Robson FB:

Check it out a film my bro did. Makes me want another dog.


So proud of my brother. After everything he has been through he still continues to do good and inspire. Wade and his wife Amanda always inspire me. This is one of their pop up events in Maui. Wade shot and directed the footage.
Here is to finding a new way.


BTW, he is not very creative - using the same music, same mood in both...
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Just like people who file phony work compensation claims they eventually forget they are supposed to fake it.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It does seem they are very frustrated with the estate. Do they sense their case is not going anywhere in a court of law thus they started their campaign in the court of public opinion? probably.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I have to say this thank you God for taking Michael. That good man really had enough of this f@cked up world.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I have to say this thank you God for taking Michael. That good man really had enough of this f@cked up world.

You know, I kinda flinched when I read this, but truth be told I don't think Michael would have been able to survive yet another betrayal of this magnitude. God probably knew best.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't think Wade or James would claim this if MJ was still alive. Wade would still go have BBQs with him and pretend to be his friend. Also, this is about money. If Michael was alive he could not go and sue him in a civil court right away. He should go through a criminal trial first, like the Arvizos had to.
 
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Wade Robson declaration: "I am no longer in the entertainment business and can never be again."

I think he knows and means that he burnt all the bridges behind him when he started this case. Nobody will want work with him. In show business he is poison to be working with or be around, because people would be thinking if the hire him, would he come back in few years times accusing them for something, and noone any even relatively famous person want to be associated with him. This is Wade's last chance to get any money because he ain't welcome back to showbiz.
 
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