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Yes. A desecration by a murderer who has not one atom of morality. He murdered a man, whom he now calls a "friend"? He killed this man! If he had been a REAL doctor, who was engaged to take care for a man with whom he was developing a true friendship?, and than would happen a ´calamity disaster´ like this, he would have felt destroying his own life totally. Feeling into depressions and so on. But not so this creeper: he fled the location after hiding whatever..., he always lied, he had no excuses, no regrets, no grief. Instead he always called himself a ´victim´. Of what? Will he demonstrate that in this ´book´?
I think, too, people will not be interested in reading such a book. The interests in the public, I think, are more smattering. For the public it may be enough to read about ´a new scandal about MJ´ in their favourite tabloid: "What Miiichael Jaaackson? Entertainment! Cool! It´s like the earlier times, when we had it every day, always hot´..., in the mirrors and daily mails etc. ´Good old times!´, ´What? The murderer is writing a book? Wonderful! At first hand! That will be really authentic!´. But I don´t think they will have the patience to read a complete book.
Above all those sad thoughts I do believe even this is a part of the same history of the past decades: using and exploiting Michael Jackson as a moneymachine. And the game is played by all old partners. Whoever they are.
I think, too, people will not be interested in reading such a book. The interests in the public, I think, are more smattering. For the public it may be enough to read about ´a new scandal about MJ´ in their favourite tabloid: "What Miiichael Jaaackson? Entertainment! Cool! It´s like the earlier times, when we had it every day, always hot´..., in the mirrors and daily mails etc. ´Good old times!´, ´What? The murderer is writing a book? Wonderful! At first hand! That will be really authentic!´. But I don´t think they will have the patience to read a complete book.
Above all those sad thoughts I do believe even this is a part of the same history of the past decades: using and exploiting Michael Jackson as a moneymachine. And the game is played by all old partners. Whoever they are.
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These claims are so outrageous and the attempt at cashing in so obvious that I don't think many people will believe this. The article mentions that CM has money problems and he says "buy the book, it's in the book!" three or four times. That's already a red flag. Even the people who believe MJ was a pedophile or a drug addict know that CM is shady as hell and nobody likes shady doctors, so his claim about being a victim in all this will rub a lot of people the wrong way. And the allegations themselves are just way too incredible to be true. Who could possibly believe that Michael, who had just been through a very public child molestation trial, would tell his doctor that he had a romantic interest in little girls and that it was his dying wish that he wrote a book about it? It's not even legal to marry a child, why would Michael want to do that and be sent straight to prison? It just doesn't make any sense. The Mirror and the Daily Mail and all those other tabloid rags only make themselves look silly by printing this. Most people will just roll their eyes and perhaps finally understand that the tabloids will print anything about Michael and can't be trusted. This could actually work out well for Michael in the end. But that doesn't change the fact that CM is a disgusting piece of filth who should have spent the rest of his sad life behind bars. To write a slanderous book about the man you murdered is cold enough but to name that book This Is It... I have no words.
Apparently this is a series so we can brace ourselves for more of this trash, right up to Michael's birthday :smilerolleyes:
Apparently this is a series so we can brace ourselves for more of this trash, right up to Michael's birthday :smilerolleyes:
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When did he speak bout Prince? And what did he say?
I think it's being self published. It's an e-book (PDF) for $9.95 and as far as I can see it is only being sold at an Australian online book store.
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Michael Jackson wanted to marry 12-year-old girl and planned to groom Emma Watson when she was 11, says doctor
22:30, 16 JUL 2016 UPDATED 23:14, 16 JUL 2016
BY SIMON BOYLE
According to his doctor, the late King of Pop fell in love with the 12 year old daughter of Oliver! star Mark Lester
King of Pop Michael Jackson became infatuated with his British god-daughter when she was just five years old, his doctor claims.
By the time she was 12 the twisted Thriller star was so obsessed with the little girl that he was determined to marry her as soon as possible.
But he also fell for movie star Emma Watson when she was an 11-year-old Harry Potter actress – and announced that if he couldn’t have his first choice he’d wed her instead.
The extraordinary claims are made in an explosive new book by the singer’s personal physician, Dr Conrad Murray.
It casts an astonishing light on the bizarre, dark world of the 400million-record selling megastar, who died of a prescription drugs overdose in 2009.
Murray, 63, claims ***** confided in him about his crush on little Harriet, the daughter of his close friend, former Oliver! child actor Mark Lester, 58.
“Michael fell in love with Harriet when she was roughly five years old,” Murray writes in This Is It – named after the concerts at London’s 02 Arena that Jackson, 50, had been preparing for when he died.
“Then, by age 12, he grew to become fixated on her,” he claims.
“He wanted me to go with him to visit her father and to discuss plans for *matrimony while in London, during the This Is It concerts.
“He told me Harriet’s father was Mark Lester, his very close friend.”
An entire chapter of the book, which will be published on Tuesday, *documents Jackson’s sickening obsession with very young girls.
Telling of his reaction to the star’s bombshell confession, Murray writes: “I was concerned that Harriet was legally far too young for marriage in most of the world.
“When I asked Michael how old she was, he said he was not sure, but thought she could be about 12 years old. I remembered saying to him in Trinidad and Tobago I’m familiar with some prearranged marriages, especially in the Hindu faith, but I don’t think it’s allowed for ages that young.
“It would be something to carefully scour for the legality of marriage to a minor. I was sure it was statutory rape in America and England.
“He said he planned to have someone review the legality and ramifications of marrying someone as young as Harriet when he arrived in London.
“He wanted me to visit Harriet’s father with him so he could discuss the *ramifications of marrying someone that young in the western world.”
He claims the megastar told him: “You must swear you will never say a word to anyone about this. Only you will know when the time is right.”
And Dr Murray has decided the right time is now.
Jackson always vehemently denied persistent child sex abuse rumours surrounding him. He paid millions of dollars to settle a number of cases with the families of young boys who claimed to have been abused by him at his Neverland ranch in California.
In 2005 he faced allegations in court, and but a jury acquitted him of each of 14 counts. Jubilant fans released a white dove for each of the 14 verdicts. But the rumours have never gone away.
Murray claims Jackson confided his yearnings for little girls after admitting he had never been intimate with his second wife Debbie Rowe.
“It was then that he told me that he intended to marry someone named Harriet, a blonde on whom he had a terrible crush,” Murray says.
“I was *startled to later learn that the tall, ultra-thin Harriet was a 13-year-old girl on whom Michael was fixated.” Rowe gave birth to Jackson’s older two children Michael Junior, 19 and Paris, 18, after getting pregnant by artificial insemination. Younger son Blanket, 14, was born by an unknown surrogate mother.
Jackson also talked to the doctor about his hopes of having more children.
Murray writes: “He told me that he intended to do further artificial *insemination.”
Jackson asked to meet child actor-turned osteopath Mark Lester because he had loved his performance as *innocent orphan Oliver in the film.
The two bonded over their shared experience as child stars. Jackson rose from lead singer in family band The Jackson 5 to pop legend. His album Thriller was the best-seller of all time. And hits like Off the Wall, Bad and Dangerous helped win him 13 Grammies.
But Mark’s showbiz career never again captured the success of Oliver!
The two men became close friends and the singer agreed to become *Harriet’s godfather. The Lesters often travelled to the US as guests of the star.
Photographs of ***** with young Harriet show their closeness but their friendship remained entirely innocent – except in his head. In an interview after Jackson’s death, Lester revealed how the singer had offered to invite her on stage at his first This Is It concert. He said: “He told Harriet he wanted her to come on stage with him when he sang his song Dirty Diana. He was really fired up.”
Lester declined to comment about Murray’s allegations this week.
Murray said Jackson, who was worth £600million and expected to make an estimated £250million on the 02 run, wanted to lavish his fortune on Harriet, the unsuspecting object of his twisted love.
The doctor writes in his book: “Michael felt the time was now since he would amass sizable wealth with his concerts, tours, and movie production, and would therefore be able to provide a very comfortable life for his bride.”
In a further extraordinary claim about Jackson’s bizarre world, Murray says the Billie Jean singer had a cardboard cutout of actress Emma Watson in his £60,000-a-month rented home in Los Angeles.
Jackson first spotted Emma, now 26, playing child witch Hermione in the Harry Potter films and quickly became infatuated.
Murray says: “Michael told me he was almost as consumed with British actress Emma Watson. He had ‘fallen in love with her’ when she was in her first Harry Potter film in 2001, when she was just 11. Emma was his second choice for a bride if things did not work out with Harriet.”
Jackson even told Murray he wanted to make his home in London after his planned shows in the capital – which the frail star was never able to perform.
The incredible plans he was hearing left the doctor questioning Jackson’s motives.
“This was the closest Michael ever came to answering my own unasked questions about the paedophilia allegations that had haunted him for years,” he writes.
“I never challenged Michael. That is because I instinctively knew that when it came to very sensitive subjects, Michael could as quickly shut down, as he had been forthright. But one thing was clear: the way Michael spoke about the young girls was not an innocent crush, but an unrequited love.”
Murray and Jackson first met in 2006 in Las Vegas, when the star enlisted his services to treat one of his three children for a minor illness.
Dr Murray had set up a private practice in Sin City after previously working as associate director of a cardiology fellowship program at Sharp Memorial Hospital, San Diego.
The pair quickly hit it off, and Jackson would call on the doctor’s services many times over the coming months.
Before long the two became very close, says Murray.
“I was far more than Jackson’s doctor,” he recalls. “I was also one of his closest friends and his only confidante.” Eventually the star hired him on an exclusive basis as his personal physician in the run-up to his ill-fated 2009 run of 50 concerts in London.
Jackson insisted Murray should be paid £120,000 a month, although the tour’s promoter AEG later claimed there was never a formal contract between themselves and the doctor.
Jackson died from a lethal dose of the anaesthetic propofol.
Murray was charged and convicted for the involuntary manslaughter of the star, and served two years of a four-year prison sentence. However, he has always fiercely denied wrongdoing and insists he still “loves” the entertainer.
Many of the late star’s fans will now consider his decision to release his *extraordinary memoirs a betrayal – but the medic insists he has Jackson’s blessing to tell the story of his final years.
He explains: “I have decided that the time has come to reveal in this book the untold story of what really happened to Michael Jackson.
“This book is the last chapter of Jackson’s life, told as no one else even knows it.”
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Michael Jackson wore a clown suit and surgical mask for his romps with escorts
22:34, 16 JUL 2016 UPDATED 22:35, 16 JUL 2016
BY SIMON BOYLE
According to his doctor, “Michael wore pyjamas and a surgical mask" and insisted on pencil-thin girls
Michael Jackson romped with call girls while dressed as a clown and using a fake accent, his former doctor Conrad Murray claims.
The oddball superstar would go out in disguise, sometimes even posing as a stroke victim, so he could slake his lust without being recognised.
On one occasion he was “like a kid in a sweet shop” as strippers gyrated around him in a cheap hotel room.
Dr Murray was not only *****’s personal physician – he was also his best friend, seeing a side to the star few others would ever see as he became a fixture at his side during his final years.
Now he reveals the strange secret world of ***** ***** in his new book This Is It, out on Tuesday.
“He was a crazy and wonderful lunatic,” Conrad writes. “We’d speed to the downtown Las Vegas strip. Sometimes we would bring along a mask or other disguise.
“Downtown, we’d walk the streets, with Michael ecstatic that virtually no one recognised him. I once wore scrubs and Michael walked with a limp, pretending to be a stroke victim. He was drooling on one side of his mouth.
“One outing I remember vividly. Michael had been moaning that he had never been to a strip club. ‘Get a few girls to come over to my house,’ he kept asking me.
“But I was worried that even if the girls signed the standard non-disclosure form, it was too much of a risk.
“‘What if one of the girls later charges rape and tries to shake you down for money?’ I warned him. Michael agreed.
“So instead we went to the mid-priced Gold Coast Hotel off Flamingo Road. We chose it precisely because it wasn’t the glitzy Vegas mega-hotel that attracted the rich and famous and packs of paparazzi.
“It also had a relatively small lobby and casino, meaning we could pass through to the hotel’s elevator quickly enough so as not to have Michael identified.
“Michael did his ‘stroke victim’ act as he walked through, and I was in green medical scrubs. Nobody looked up from the nickel slots and crap tables. When we got to our room we burst into laughter.”
Once inside, Murray arranged for escorts to be sent to their room – with the main stipulation from Jackson being that they had to be extremely slim.
He writes: “I telephoned an escort agency and discussed the type of girls Michael wanted. Exotic. Mixed race. Very thin women. If they had large breasts that was OK, so long as the rest of them was pencil thin.
“About 45 minutes later, two girls arrived. They weren’t bad. But they really didn’t hit the mark for exotic. They were 6 on a scale of 10.
“I would not have picked them to dance for me if I had walked in to a strip bar. But they looked just right to Michael who seemed like a kid in a candy store.”
When the strippers turned up, Jackson and his doctor put on fake Arabic accents to avoid being identified.
Murray says: “We had already decided we’d tell the girls we were Saudi Arabian brothers.
“Michael wore pyjamas and a surgical mask, not much of a disguise for somebody so frequently associated with one.
“I was still in my scrubs. We spoke a fake Arabic to each other as the girls came into the room and sized us up.
“Stripped down to their panties, the girls danced around Michael.
“I had decided to leave the girls to Michael, instead acting only as the evening’s “financier” and I was on guard for any problems. I kept passing cash to Michael.
“The girls would show him where to put the bills, sliding it into some strap or elastic band of their underwear.”
He adds: “Another time, with Michael dressed as a clown, we had to keep stifling laughter as people stared at us. Eventually we broke into hysterics for so long our stomach muscles ached.”
But behind the locked door of his bedroom at his £60,000-a-month rented home in Los Angeles, the King of Pop was often suffering private torment.
In his final years the star was as famous for his shocking appearance and surgically disfigured face as he was for hits like Man in the Mirror, Blame It on the Boogie and Beat It.
Michael fiercely guarded his secret frailty, even locking himself away from his children at times.
Dr Murray believes the singer *probably suffered from anorexia. He describes how he woke nightly covered in his own urine and banned his cleaning staff from changing the sheets for fear of them discovering his problem.
And Murray tells how as a child *Jackson’s daughter Paris, now 18, *fractured her toe against a piece of furniture but, under strict instructions not to disturb her father when he was sleeping, spent the night in agony, unsure what to do.
The doctor also reveals the depth of the star’s obsession with his image.
In public, Jackson denied lightening his complexion – insisting his whitening skin was due to a medical condition.
But Murray claims he applied bleaching agents to the star’s skin daily. “Every evening I applied the cream,” he writes. “I wore gloves, since careless handling could lead to my own patchy skin appearance.” When the doctor was unavailable, ***** would get Paris to apply the substance – putting her at risk of her own delicate skin being bleached too.
“I was concerned when Michael told me that sometimes he had Paris put on the cream,” Murray says.
“Michael thought that since Paris is the ‘whitest’ of his children, there was no risk to her in turning lighter. Still, as I warned him, everybody has different shades of white, and I highly *recommended that Paris not apply the permanent skin lightener.
“Michael assured me he wouldn’t again ask Paris. But he was so insistent on getting his daily applications that it wouldn’t surprise me if he occasionally asked her to help out.”
Jackson began the process earlier in his solo career under another doctor. They concocted an elaborate lie to convince the public the transformation was the result of a medical condition.
For years the star maintained he suffered from vitiligo, and would insist he had never undergone treatment.
But as Murray applied the bleaching cream, he confessed this had always been a lie. The doctor says: “He admitted to me that he often had to tell little lies by denying the use of products to bleach his skin, and to even his skin tone. But one thing he did not lie about was he wanted to be a white man.”
The star surrounded himself with pictures at home, many of them images of children given to him by fans – but none were of family members, even his own kids, or any black people – except for one picture of Murray’s son, Che. His transformation, the doctor believes, was a bid to forget his unhappy childhood.
“His primary purpose for changing his skin tone was to help him erase memories of many past adversities in his life,” he writes.
“He wondered if the change in his skin colour would be an illusion capable of helping him cope with his memory of a disturbing and tragic past.
“He also contemplated thoughts of undergoing brain transplant, with further hope to erase the mortifying memories of the past, those that haunted him from childhood, *adolescence and beyond.
“He wanted to look in the mirror and see the old Michael Jackson was annihilated, everything foul he had experienced was gone, but that did not happen.
“What he was left with was white skin and an intact memory.
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Michael Jackson wanted to marry 12-year-old girl and planned to groom Emma Watson when she was 11, says doctor
22:30, 16 JUL 2016 UPDATED 23:14, 16 JUL 2016
BY SIMON BOYLE
According to his doctor, the late King of Pop fell in love with the 12 year old daughter of Oliver! star Mark Lester
King of Pop Michael Jackson became infatuated with his British god-daughter when she was just five years old, his doctor claims.
By the time she was 12 the twisted Thriller star was so obsessed with the little girl that he was determined to marry her as soon as possible.
But he also fell for movie star Emma Watson when she was an 11-year-old Harry Potter actress – and announced that if he couldn’t have his first choice he’d wed her instead.
The extraordinary claims are made in an explosive new book by the singer’s personal physician, Dr Conrad Murray.
It casts an astonishing light on the bizarre, dark world of the 400million-record selling megastar, who died of a prescription drugs overdose in 2009.
Murray, 63, claims ***** confided in him about his crush on little Harriet, the daughter of his close friend, former Oliver! child actor Mark Lester, 58.
“Michael fell in love with Harriet when she was roughly five years old,” Murray writes in This Is It – named after the concerts at London’s 02 Arena that Jackson, 50, had been preparing for when he died.
“Then, by age 12, he grew to become fixated on her,” he claims.
“He wanted me to go with him to visit her father and to discuss plans for *matrimony while in London, during the This Is It concerts.
“He told me Harriet’s father was Mark Lester, his very close friend.”
An entire chapter of the book, which will be published on Tuesday, *documents Jackson’s sickening obsession with very young girls.
Telling of his reaction to the star’s bombshell confession, Murray writes: “I was concerned that Harriet was legally far too young for marriage in most of the world.
“When I asked Michael how old she was, he said he was not sure, but thought she could be about 12 years old. I remembered saying to him in Trinidad and Tobago I’m familiar with some prearranged marriages, especially in the Hindu faith, but I don’t think it’s allowed for ages that young.
“It would be something to carefully scour for the legality of marriage to a minor. I was sure it was statutory rape in America and England.
“He said he planned to have someone review the legality and ramifications of marrying someone as young as Harriet when he arrived in London.
“He wanted me to visit Harriet’s father with him so he could discuss the *ramifications of marrying someone that young in the western world.”
He claims the megastar told him: “You must swear you will never say a word to anyone about this. Only you will know when the time is right.”
And Dr Murray has decided the right time is now.
Jackson always vehemently denied persistent child sex abuse rumours surrounding him. He paid millions of dollars to settle a number of cases with the families of young boys who claimed to have been abused by him at his Neverland ranch in California.
In 2005 he faced allegations in court, and but a jury acquitted him of each of 14 counts. Jubilant fans released a white dove for each of the 14 verdicts. But the rumours have never gone away.
Murray claims Jackson confided his yearnings for little girls after admitting he had never been intimate with his second wife Debbie Rowe.
“It was then that he told me that he intended to marry someone named Harriet, a blonde on whom he had a terrible crush,” Murray says.
“I was *startled to later learn that the tall, ultra-thin Harriet was a 13-year-old girl on whom Michael was fixated.” Rowe gave birth to Jackson’s older two children Michael Junior, 19 and Paris, 18, after getting pregnant by artificial insemination. Younger son Blanket, 14, was born by an unknown surrogate mother.
Jackson also talked to the doctor about his hopes of having more children.
Murray writes: “He told me that he intended to do further artificial *insemination.”
Jackson asked to meet child actor-turned osteopath Mark Lester because he had loved his performance as *innocent orphan Oliver in the film.
The two bonded over their shared experience as child stars. Jackson rose from lead singer in family band The Jackson 5 to pop legend. His album Thriller was the best-seller of all time. And hits like Off the Wall, Bad and Dangerous helped win him 13 Grammies.
But Mark’s showbiz career never again captured the success of Oliver!
The two men became close friends and the singer agreed to become *Harriet’s godfather. The Lesters often travelled to the US as guests of the star.
Photographs of ***** with young Harriet show their closeness but their friendship remained entirely innocent – except in his head. In an interview after Jackson’s death, Lester revealed how the singer had offered to invite her on stage at his first This Is It concert. He said: “He told Harriet he wanted her to come on stage with him when he sang his song Dirty Diana. He was really fired up.”
Lester declined to comment about Murray’s allegations this week.
Murray said Jackson, who was worth £600million and expected to make an estimated £250million on the 02 run, wanted to lavish his fortune on Harriet, the unsuspecting object of his twisted love.
The doctor writes in his book: “Michael felt the time was now since he would amass sizable wealth with his concerts, tours, and movie production, and would therefore be able to provide a very comfortable life for his bride.”
In a further extraordinary claim about Jackson’s bizarre world, Murray says the Billie Jean singer had a cardboard cutout of actress Emma Watson in his £60,000-a-month rented home in Los Angeles.
Jackson first spotted Emma, now 26, playing child witch Hermione in the Harry Potter films and quickly became infatuated.
Murray says: “Michael told me he was almost as consumed with British actress Emma Watson. He had ‘fallen in love with her’ when she was in her first Harry Potter film in 2001, when she was just 11. Emma was his second choice for a bride if things did not work out with Harriet.”
Jackson even told Murray he wanted to make his home in London after his planned shows in the capital – which the frail star was never able to perform.
The incredible plans he was hearing left the doctor questioning Jackson’s motives.
“This was the closest Michael ever came to answering my own unasked questions about the paedophilia allegations that had haunted him for years,” he writes.
“I never challenged Michael. That is because I instinctively knew that when it came to very sensitive subjects, Michael could as quickly shut down, as he had been forthright. But one thing was clear: the way Michael spoke about the young girls was not an innocent crush, but an unrequited love.”
Murray and Jackson first met in 2006 in Las Vegas, when the star enlisted his services to treat one of his three children for a minor illness.
Dr Murray had set up a private practice in Sin City after previously working as associate director of a cardiology fellowship program at Sharp Memorial Hospital, San Diego.
The pair quickly hit it off, and Jackson would call on the doctor’s services many times over the coming months.
Before long the two became very close, says Murray.
“I was far more than Jackson’s doctor,” he recalls. “I was also one of his closest friends and his only confidante.” Eventually the star hired him on an exclusive basis as his personal physician in the run-up to his ill-fated 2009 run of 50 concerts in London.
Jackson insisted Murray should be paid £120,000 a month, although the tour’s promoter AEG later claimed there was never a formal contract between themselves and the doctor.
Jackson died from a lethal dose of the anaesthetic propofol.
Murray was charged and convicted for the involuntary manslaughter of the star, and served two years of a four-year prison sentence. However, he has always fiercely denied wrongdoing and insists he still “loves” the entertainer.
Many of the late star’s fans will now consider his decision to release his *extraordinary memoirs a betrayal – but the medic insists he has Jackson’s blessing to tell the story of his final years.
He explains: “I have decided that the time has come to reveal in this book the untold story of what really happened to Michael Jackson.
“This book is the last chapter of Jackson’s life, told as no one else even knows it.”
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Michael Jackson wore a clown suit and surgical mask for his romps with escorts
22:34, 16 JUL 2016 UPDATED 22:35, 16 JUL 2016
BY SIMON BOYLE
According to his doctor, “Michael wore pyjamas and a surgical mask" and insisted on pencil-thin girls
Michael Jackson romped with call girls while dressed as a clown and using a fake accent, his former doctor Conrad Murray claims.
The oddball superstar would go out in disguise, sometimes even posing as a stroke victim, so he could slake his lust without being recognised.
On one occasion he was “like a kid in a sweet shop” as strippers gyrated around him in a cheap hotel room.
Dr Murray was not only *****’s personal physician – he was also his best friend, seeing a side to the star few others would ever see as he became a fixture at his side during his final years.
Now he reveals the strange secret world of ***** ***** in his new book This Is It, out on Tuesday.
“He was a crazy and wonderful lunatic,” Conrad writes. “We’d speed to the downtown Las Vegas strip. Sometimes we would bring along a mask or other disguise.
“Downtown, we’d walk the streets, with Michael ecstatic that virtually no one recognised him. I once wore scrubs and Michael walked with a limp, pretending to be a stroke victim. He was drooling on one side of his mouth.
“One outing I remember vividly. Michael had been moaning that he had never been to a strip club. ‘Get a few girls to come over to my house,’ he kept asking me.
“But I was worried that even if the girls signed the standard non-disclosure form, it was too much of a risk.
“‘What if one of the girls later charges rape and tries to shake you down for money?’ I warned him. Michael agreed.
“So instead we went to the mid-priced Gold Coast Hotel off Flamingo Road. We chose it precisely because it wasn’t the glitzy Vegas mega-hotel that attracted the rich and famous and packs of paparazzi.
“It also had a relatively small lobby and casino, meaning we could pass through to the hotel’s elevator quickly enough so as not to have Michael identified.
“Michael did his ‘stroke victim’ act as he walked through, and I was in green medical scrubs. Nobody looked up from the nickel slots and crap tables. When we got to our room we burst into laughter.”
Once inside, Murray arranged for escorts to be sent to their room – with the main stipulation from Jackson being that they had to be extremely slim.
He writes: “I telephoned an escort agency and discussed the type of girls Michael wanted. Exotic. Mixed race. Very thin women. If they had large breasts that was OK, so long as the rest of them was pencil thin.
“About 45 minutes later, two girls arrived. They weren’t bad. But they really didn’t hit the mark for exotic. They were 6 on a scale of 10.
“I would not have picked them to dance for me if I had walked in to a strip bar. But they looked just right to Michael who seemed like a kid in a candy store.”
When the strippers turned up, Jackson and his doctor put on fake Arabic accents to avoid being identified.
Murray says: “We had already decided we’d tell the girls we were Saudi Arabian brothers.
“Michael wore pyjamas and a surgical mask, not much of a disguise for somebody so frequently associated with one.
“I was still in my scrubs. We spoke a fake Arabic to each other as the girls came into the room and sized us up.
“Stripped down to their panties, the girls danced around Michael.
“I had decided to leave the girls to Michael, instead acting only as the evening’s “financier” and I was on guard for any problems. I kept passing cash to Michael.
“The girls would show him where to put the bills, sliding it into some strap or elastic band of their underwear.”
He adds: “Another time, with Michael dressed as a clown, we had to keep stifling laughter as people stared at us. Eventually we broke into hysterics for so long our stomach muscles ached.”
But behind the locked door of his bedroom at his £60,000-a-month rented home in Los Angeles, the King of Pop was often suffering private torment.
In his final years the star was as famous for his shocking appearance and surgically disfigured face as he was for hits like Man in the Mirror, Blame It on the Boogie and Beat It.
Michael fiercely guarded his secret frailty, even locking himself away from his children at times.
Dr Murray believes the singer *probably suffered from anorexia. He describes how he woke nightly covered in his own urine and banned his cleaning staff from changing the sheets for fear of them discovering his problem.
And Murray tells how as a child *Jackson’s daughter Paris, now 18, *fractured her toe against a piece of furniture but, under strict instructions not to disturb her father when he was sleeping, spent the night in agony, unsure what to do.
The doctor also reveals the depth of the star’s obsession with his image.
In public, Jackson denied lightening his complexion – insisting his whitening skin was due to a medical condition.
But Murray claims he applied bleaching agents to the star’s skin daily. “Every evening I applied the cream,” he writes. “I wore gloves, since careless handling could lead to my own patchy skin appearance.” When the doctor was unavailable, ***** would get Paris to apply the substance – putting her at risk of her own delicate skin being bleached too.
“I was concerned when Michael told me that sometimes he had Paris put on the cream,” Murray says.
“Michael thought that since Paris is the ‘whitest’ of his children, there was no risk to her in turning lighter. Still, as I warned him, everybody has different shades of white, and I highly *recommended that Paris not apply the permanent skin lightener.
“Michael assured me he wouldn’t again ask Paris. But he was so insistent on getting his daily applications that it wouldn’t surprise me if he occasionally asked her to help out.”
Jackson began the process earlier in his solo career under another doctor. They concocted an elaborate lie to convince the public the transformation was the result of a medical condition.
For years the star maintained he suffered from vitiligo, and would insist he had never undergone treatment.
But as Murray applied the bleaching cream, he confessed this had always been a lie. The doctor says: “He admitted to me that he often had to tell little lies by denying the use of products to bleach his skin, and to even his skin tone. But one thing he did not lie about was he wanted to be a white man.”
The star surrounded himself with pictures at home, many of them images of children given to him by fans – but none were of family members, even his own kids, or any black people – except for one picture of Murray’s son, Che. His transformation, the doctor believes, was a bid to forget his unhappy childhood.
“His primary purpose for changing his skin tone was to help him erase memories of many past adversities in his life,” he writes.
“He wondered if the change in his skin colour would be an illusion capable of helping him cope with his memory of a disturbing and tragic past.
“He also contemplated thoughts of undergoing brain transplant, with further hope to erase the mortifying memories of the past, those that haunted him from childhood, *adolescence and beyond.
“He wanted to look in the mirror and see the old Michael Jackson was annihilated, everything foul he had experienced was gone, but that did not happen.
“What he was left with was white skin and an intact memory.
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It was in May on Inside Edition. many publications talked about it the next day. He was giving advice to Prince Doctor on what to expect. People online and chat room went crazy. He can not say nothing. He killed the biggest star in the world and was called every name in the book on what he did to MJ.
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ALso, I am sick and tire of people trying to say bleaching crème make a person look white. THAT IS A LIE. Bleaching crème may lighten dark spots but it will NEVER make a black person skin light like MJ; if fact, after some use, a black person skin turn right back or darker. I do not care if MJ sat in bleaching creme all day, it will NEVER make the skin WHITE/Pale looking no more than a white person going in the sun trying to make their skin black like Wesley Snipes. you get a tan but you do not get black). many blacks use it to get an even skin tone from Ambi to Fashion fair Vantix crème and others. THIS IS A LIE. MJ clearly had a skin disorder over all and used make up to cover it.
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Yep. Depigmentation removes skin tone, not just lightens it. Besides the autopsy confirmed it.
That story he's telling though..good lord what a pathetic excuse for a human being. Actually I'm not sure he really is human at all.
Anyone who takes any of his crap seriously, needs to take a long hard look at themselves.
That story he's telling though..good lord what a pathetic excuse for a human being. Actually I'm not sure he really is human at all.
Anyone who takes any of his crap seriously, needs to take a long hard look at themselves.
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Wow. I hate it when people call Robson or Safechuck or whoever mentally ill, because that elicits some sympathy. But in this case, Murray does sound totally mentally ill.
He really does. I can not believe that he actually practiced as a doctor at one point-thank God no other patients here got killed.
Guess I was half right on his choice of a child bride with Lester's kid. I'm surprised he named Emma Watson, since she's still alive. And so is Paris. Hopefully we'll be seeing some good lawsuits.
He really does. I can not believe that he actually practiced as a doctor at one point-thank God no other patients here got killed.
Guess I was half right on his choice of a child bride with Lester's kid. I'm surprised he named Emma Watson, since she's still alive. And so is Paris. Hopefully we'll be seeing some good lawsuits.
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So he's spent his time in the last two years reading other people's books about MJ eg 'Simply the Gest'
And as for this:
We all heard Murray's tape ( of a barely conscious MJ) in court, where Michael told us what he actually planned to do with the money from TII, which was to build a children's hospital.
And regarding this:
If MJ was wearing a mask ( a disguise that would fool anyone, and which we have never seen MJ wearing before!), how could you see if he was pretending to 'drool' or not? (Also not loving the way Murray, a supposed Dr, describes Stroke victims)
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What the bloody ****??? Who is paying this piece of shit to tell these lies?
Brain transplant? No vitiligo? Putting Paris at risk?
It's either that Conrad Murray really lost his ****ing mind or someone is paying him to do this.
And he wrote this for the fans?
And what does Lester and Harriet say about all this?
Lester never ever suggested that MJ was in love with Harriet. He always said he was great with his kids
and that's it. But if he does not refute this BS now then **** him.
As for him denying viltigo well Murray is not a doctor we know that he is a charlatan. Maybe he should go back to medical school
where he could get a brain transplant himself.
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Tabloids are filled with crazy people, last week or so Mirror was posting articles of MJ being after little buys, and this week they are posting articles of MJ being after strippers.
I suppose he was describing his own lifestyle and changed the name to MJ as he is an expert of strippers.
Seemingly they love him in Australia as he did his 60 min interview with them, and his book being published only Australian publisher
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I suppose he was describing his own lifestyle and changed the name to MJ as he is an expert of strippers.
Seemingly they love him in Australia as he did his 60 min interview with them, and his book being published only Australian publisher
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So now MJ all of a sudden MJ was attracted to females (both adults and minors)? Because so far for decades the tabloid narrative has been that he was not attracted to females at all, in fact hated females. Safechuck's own allegations include some of those narratives about MJ hating girls and females. The prosecution tried to claim that while boys were always invited to his room, girls were shut out. Now all of a sudden he is into females. "Of course" in a perverted way, but still. Tabloids and haters should make up their minds already as to whom or what he was really attracted to. Did we already go through the full spectrum? I think we did.
Allegations of him
- being attarcted to young boys? Check.
- being gay and attracted to men? Check.
- being attracted to young girls? Check.
- being attracted to women (hookers of course, because his attractions can never be normal)? Check.
- being attracted to animals (Bubbles)? Check.
What else can they come up with?
"A number of cases". Yeah, right. The media once again exaggerating. There was only Chandler and Francia.
It is astonishing to me just how low the media is willing to sink when it comes to slandering Michael Jackson. There are simply no boundaries with him. Suddenly a man who was convicted for killing him and who is obviously a pathological liar (and now in need of money) is a "credible" source and is allowed to further victimize the man he killed. It just would not be considered OK if it was anyone else.
And Murray's story is easy to refute as his ages are off, very much off. I think Harriet was much older than 12 in 2009. I mean look at this photo. Don't know when it was taken but she looks around 16-17 here. Definitely older than 12. LOL.
This was in 2003. This is where Harriet looks about 10-12.
This is in 2005
October 8 : Attending the musical "Billy Elliot"
Michael takes his 3 children to see the musical "Billy Elliot"
October 8, 2005 at the The Victoria Palace Theatre in London, UK
So why would MJ ask Murray in 2009 how to marry a 12-year-old Harriet when she was already much older in 2009? That story is a mess. LOL.
Allegations of him
- being attarcted to young boys? Check.
- being gay and attracted to men? Check.
- being attracted to young girls? Check.
- being attracted to women (hookers of course, because his attractions can never be normal)? Check.
- being attracted to animals (Bubbles)? Check.
What else can they come up with?
"A number of cases". Yeah, right. The media once again exaggerating. There was only Chandler and Francia.
It is astonishing to me just how low the media is willing to sink when it comes to slandering Michael Jackson. There are simply no boundaries with him. Suddenly a man who was convicted for killing him and who is obviously a pathological liar (and now in need of money) is a "credible" source and is allowed to further victimize the man he killed. It just would not be considered OK if it was anyone else.
And Murray's story is easy to refute as his ages are off, very much off. I think Harriet was much older than 12 in 2009. I mean look at this photo. Don't know when it was taken but she looks around 16-17 here. Definitely older than 12. LOL.
This was in 2003. This is where Harriet looks about 10-12.
This is in 2005
October 8 : Attending the musical "Billy Elliot"
Michael takes his 3 children to see the musical "Billy Elliot"
October 8, 2005 at the The Victoria Palace Theatre in London, UK
So why would MJ ask Murray in 2009 how to marry a 12-year-old Harriet when she was already much older in 2009? That story is a mess. LOL.
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Thanks ivy. At least thats something
And what does Lester and Harriet say about all this?
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Hes prob waiting for his cut for creating the story. His kids are on F.B and lester didnt care for the attention they got after he pulled his stunt claiming to be paris dad. They looked stupid claiming they had no idea about what he had done when they obviously did.
Just be thankful his claims are so ludicrous.and not slightly believible even to haters. All it does it show what a nutjob he is and helps to cement his guilt. Says it all when he cant even get one of murdochs publishers to publish it.
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That top picture is from march 09 London oliver show
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Thanks. In any case, Harriet was much older in 2009 than 12, so why would MJ ask Murray how to marry a 12-year-old Harriet during or after TII?
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Exactly. I guess we should be "thankful" his claims are so obviously B.S. i guess mj had to ask him as he wasnt aware of google!?
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That's what I am thinking too. That these claims are so absurd that I would hope anyone with a working brain cell can see right through them and in a way it might even make people realize how low tabloid's standards are when it comes to publishing MJ stories.
He can name anyone. It's not like Emma Watson can come out and refute it since how would she know about what MJ allegedly told privately to his doctor?
Thing is Emma Watson was born in 1990: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Watson
That means she was 19 in 2009, not 11. Once again Murray is totally off with the ages of these girls. So once again, why would MJ ask Murray about how to marry 11-12 girls when his alleged crushes that he allegedly wanted to marry were way older than 11-12 at the time?
I think the Estate has a good basis to sue him based on doctor-patient privilege. Also, did not the Goldmans manage to do something when OJ tried to profit of his crime and of his victims and write a book? The Estate needs to check that out too.
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That's what I am thinking too. That these claims are so absurd that I would hope anyone with a working brain cell can see right through them and in a way it might even make people realize how low tabloid's standards are when it comes to publishing MJ stories.
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Thats exactly my feeling. A strange thing to say but stuff like this kinda helps mj.
Hes really not any good with ages is he! Maybe he should have googled before he wrote it!
Didnt the goldmans get money based off restitution re the book???
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Thats exactly my feeling. A strange thing to say but stuff like this kinda helps mj.
Hes really not any good with ages is he! Maybe he should have googled before he wrote it!
Didnt the goldmans get money based off restitution re the book???
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Did_It
So it seems the Goldmans were awarded with the transfer of publishing rights because OJ owed them money due to the civil trial ruling. There is no such a thing about Murray, ("thanks" to the Jackson family opting to rather go after AEG and not Murray) however he was convicted under criminal law (with a much higher burden of proof), so there might be other legal possibilities to stop him.
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Thanks respect. So it was kinda based off the restitution
Re lester be ironic if after all the s*** hes pulled if this upsets him
Re lester be ironic if after all the s*** hes pulled if this upsets him
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So Conrad Murray is writing a book on Michael? Sorry I'm really over this and am not even going the entertain the thought of reading the article (but I did see the headlines on Facebook about the marriage/Emma Watson thing, ugh).
If that's the case, then the Estate should have a really, really good case to sue him and hopefully shut it down. Though I'm honestly so conflicted on this, mainly because of the Streisand effect (which basically is, in the context of this issue: by the Estate suing Conrad Murray, the lawsuit and book are suddenly all over the news, leading to even more people finding out about the book who would not have heard about it otherwise). But on the other hand, the Estate might have a case to actually sue him and Murray deserves ALL the shit he can get!
I wonder if they can stop this BEFORE its published? That way even if the Streisand effect does happen, no-one can read it and it's somewhat cancelled out!!
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Lester will no doubt says yes or no to CM claims, depending which one pays more
Anything is possible with MJ's "friends" but Lester never even suggested that MJ was twisted in any way, in fact he defended
him against the pedo charges and if he now says that MJ had an eye for his daughter then he should explain why he was hanging out in Neverland even in 2003 and why he kept saying that MJ was the kindest, nicest person and a wonderful father.
Also, if anything "odd" had been going on I doubt Harriet would have been this happy to take pictures with MJ in 2009:
At the same time if Lester does not come out and categorically deny this BS then **** him.
How would MJ even know about 5 year old Emma Watson anyway?
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Guys, do you remember this article?
The Mirror published in 2013 an article about this BOOK.
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Michael Jackson's killer Conrad Murray free to start making millions from the King of Pop’s death
17:46, 28 Oct 2013
Updated 18:12, 28 Oct 2013
By Christopher Bucktin
Conrad Murray will now put the finishing touches to the book he's been writing inside while serving half of his four-year sentence
The doctor convicted of killing Michael Jackson has left prison – and is free to start making millions out of the King of Pop’s death.
Conrad Murray will now put the finishing touches to a book he’s been writing inside while serving half of his four-year sentence.
One source said: “He has pretty much finished his book which recounts the events leading up to Michael’s death and what happened in the bedroom.”
“It’s quite alarming how he is using his criminality. He has no shame.”
The doctor slipped out of a side entrance at the Men’s Central Jail in Los Angeles jail to avoid angry ***** fans.
His new life began with a meal at a 24-hour burger joint. Looking older, greyer, and two stone lighter, he went into hiding following his burger and fries.
While applying to be reinstated as a doctor, Murray will tout his memoirs to the highest bidder. If the cash is right, he’ll also consider doing a reality TV show.
The source added: “The interest in Michael is still so high he could make well over $1million on the book alone.”
Murray was jailed in 2011 for involuntary manslaughter after Jackson’s death in June 2009, when he gave the star a fatal shot of anaesthetic Propofol.
The 50-year-old Thriller star was preparing for gigs at London’s O2 Arena at the time.
Earlier this month Jackson’s mother lost a £31billion lawsuit against promoters AEG Live claiming he was unfit to serve as Jackson’s tour doctor.
Murray is appealing his conviction and fighting for his medical licence.
His lawyer said: “Dr Murray has an unquenchable desire to help people and will return his profession of healing.”
INCLUDING THIS:
The Mirror published in 2013 an article about this BOOK.
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Michael Jackson's killer Conrad Murray free to start making millions from the King of Pop’s death
17:46, 28 Oct 2013
Updated 18:12, 28 Oct 2013
By Christopher Bucktin
Conrad Murray will now put the finishing touches to the book he's been writing inside while serving half of his four-year sentence
The doctor convicted of killing Michael Jackson has left prison – and is free to start making millions out of the King of Pop’s death.
Conrad Murray will now put the finishing touches to a book he’s been writing inside while serving half of his four-year sentence.
One source said: “He has pretty much finished his book which recounts the events leading up to Michael’s death and what happened in the bedroom.”
“It’s quite alarming how he is using his criminality. He has no shame.”
The doctor slipped out of a side entrance at the Men’s Central Jail in Los Angeles jail to avoid angry ***** fans.
His new life began with a meal at a 24-hour burger joint. Looking older, greyer, and two stone lighter, he went into hiding following his burger and fries.
While applying to be reinstated as a doctor, Murray will tout his memoirs to the highest bidder. If the cash is right, he’ll also consider doing a reality TV show.
The source added: “The interest in Michael is still so high he could make well over $1million on the book alone.”
Murray was jailed in 2011 for involuntary manslaughter after Jackson’s death in June 2009, when he gave the star a fatal shot of anaesthetic Propofol.
The 50-year-old Thriller star was preparing for gigs at London’s O2 Arena at the time.
Earlier this month Jackson’s mother lost a £31billion lawsuit against promoters AEG Live claiming he was unfit to serve as Jackson’s tour doctor.
Murray is appealing his conviction and fighting for his medical licence.
His lawyer said: “Dr Murray has an unquenchable desire to help people and will return his profession of healing.”
INCLUDING THIS:
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Obviously the Estate ignoring tabloid stories about MJ never stopped them from spreading like wildfire. It's already out there. The Mirror is running a series about his book and it was a frontpage story yesterday. The "let's just ignore it" attitude has not been very effective with these kind of smear stories, has it? So maybe a change of attitude on these is required. Especially when they even might have a legal basis to sue.
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True, if it's front page already (which I didn't know, don't go to The Mirror) then they might as well. It's not like these kind of stories are too different from the usual crap we've heard a hundred times over. Really hope the Estate actually do something for once, now that they do have the ability to act legally (as far as I'm aware).
Just saw this trash in local store on Sunday Mirror.
No other story got coverage including the Robson crap, but this has?
This is the worst one yet, reminds me of when O.J. Simpson wrote his book 'If I did it', no conscious whatsoever.
No other story got coverage including the Robson crap, but this has?
This is the worst one yet, reminds me of when O.J. Simpson wrote his book 'If I did it', no conscious whatsoever.