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Defense Tactics: Look what TMZ is saying..is this going to be the defense in the trial?
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yes..I agree too..
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Well knowing how sick and twisted the media is when it comes to MJ he was probably given a raise
Bunch of bastards
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yes.. but who is going to say something? The executors could since they did react to the Discovery channel doing the autopsy show but MJ's family doesn't care at all. They never react to what they need to be reacting to.
I think they made sure that they worded it in a way that nothing can be done about it. Question also is, do you want to just let it go away (hopefully), since Blanket is mentioned, that poor child - or do you want to risk that this story gets even bigger by doing something about it?
For a jury, I think, it won't matter, they are not supposed to make their decision based on media/tabloid crap. And it also has nothing to do with what happened on June 25 2009.
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Well, I wish it would just go away, but it angers me how they can casually say this on Television...An average viewer who would happen to see this may believe it and make a judgment that Michael was some sort of horrible person...I just don't get how it's even allowed in the first place.. -_-
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MJJ is gone, now media is passing the harassment to the children, especially Blanket? Taser incident allegedly target: Blanket, in sedation risk target: Blanket, not forget the segment in the show dedicated about Blanket debuting in YT and danger of exposure. This has got to stop. I never heard of celebrity children being maliciously used for the news as MJJ's kids. Estate got to do something about it! This makes me vomit. Poor Blanket.
Yes, leave the kids alone. Leave them out of it. They don't deserve any of this. Can they get any lower?
The bolded part ... maybe there is something they (the estate or the family?) can do? Thinking about it, they are still minors ... shouldn't there be some way to protect them from that? At least in the future?
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I agree with you here. We should all boycott TMZ...if we dont click on their links and start threads about what it is they write....then we are not giving them ratings....by what we are doing now...we are feeding it...
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There's a few children that get this treatment. I have Tom Cruise's daughter stuck in my mind and few headlines I saw standing by a check out line. I wanted to
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pace u are officially my girl,don't misunderstand me,my girl as PREACH GIRL.
and this is just beginning ,just wait for real mud slinging ,new fans gonna drop their jaw on floor.i am really feeling bad for those who think mj is at fault.
and this is just beginning ,just wait for real mud slinging ,new fans gonna drop their jaw on floor.i am really feeling bad for those who think mj is at fault.
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That was my first thought when i first heard of this whole "blanket situation" and i can bet that is the reason they made this rumor up
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Ima gonna PREACH IT until I die.
We need to develop this attitude toward everyone of these folks who think that a seat in front of a computer or camera means it's okay to bully at dead man by means of bullying his children. Mike's got the bigger one, that is why certain elements of the media are trying to hard. Even in death.
People always say, yeah, you guys are just doing it because it's MJ- well, you know I haven't seen anything as constant and nasty as with MJ. Decades. You'd think he's up there with Stalin, or something, based on decades of this type of nonsense.
Michael's listening.
Every time you expose a mechanism, it looses a little bit of it's efficiency. MJ deals with about all stereotypes and unfair prejudices a human being can currently encounter, all one person, that is why it is so outstandingly cruel.
As you said, ready yourself for some serious mudslinging- expose those that twist the truth into convenient half bakes insinuations.
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that picture....:wub::clapping::clapping::clapping:Ima gonna PREACH IT until I die.
And Pace also throws in German sentences in her posts from time to time to make us German speakers giggle. Dankeschoen!
The so called "dangling incident" - haven't even thought of that, I'm not a "trained MJ fan" - but the thing is, to me certain media stuff is just white noise most of the time. Takes a lot to make me look twice. I just don't care. I know how they work, and thanks, but I'm not interested. The only time I hear about tabloid stuff is when it gets posted somewhere else like here, with a link to TMZ in this case (other than that I rarely look at TMZ, and if I do, I just scroll down a bit for 30 seconds, ask myself if this is actually considered "news" and then close the page) or if a headline makes it into the "normal" media (can't think of the word for that now, not even in German, I guess thanks to Pace I'm a bit language confused at the moment).
P.S. Mainstream media! Only took me half an hour ...
The so called "dangling incident" - haven't even thought of that, I'm not a "trained MJ fan" - but the thing is, to me certain media stuff is just white noise most of the time. Takes a lot to make me look twice. I just don't care. I know how they work, and thanks, but I'm not interested. The only time I hear about tabloid stuff is when it gets posted somewhere else like here, with a link to TMZ in this case (other than that I rarely look at TMZ, and if I do, I just scroll down a bit for 30 seconds, ask myself if this is actually considered "news" and then close the page) or if a headline makes it into the "normal" media (can't think of the word for that now, not even in German, I guess thanks to Pace I'm a bit language confused at the moment).
P.S. Mainstream media! Only took me half an hour ...
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And I officially give the parent of the week award to, DRUMROLL please- to Michael Jackson.
Not only is he man enough to let his baby wear long hair (you'd think that's something out of the ordinary here in the US- based on some commentary I felt like being in the 50ies or something), no, he doesn't even teach his son that a 'man doesn't cry'/'boys don't cry, so suck it up, sunshine' but wants his baby boy to receive treatment that doesn't traumatize him.
Now THAT's a MAN! :agree:
(some people might disagree and that's cool)
You know, we can spin things too- in a better way.
You know why Michael Jackson pi**es people of so much? Because he shakes the foundation of conventional "well, it didn't kill me" type mainstream thinking. As a man and as a parent. People can't STAND that because it usually reminds them very bitterly of everything that was done TO THEM, particularly as children.
Michael Jackson comes along and pretty much pushes the button that makes all these people flip, pushing the button RIGHT.WERE.IT.HURTS. You think they'd be happy someone wants to open the wound for them, but they can't see past the pressure of the moment.
Not only is he man enough to let his baby wear long hair (you'd think that's something out of the ordinary here in the US- based on some commentary I felt like being in the 50ies or something), no, he doesn't even teach his son that a 'man doesn't cry'/'boys don't cry, so suck it up, sunshine' but wants his baby boy to receive treatment that doesn't traumatize him.
Now THAT's a MAN! :agree:
(some people might disagree and that's cool)
You know, we can spin things too- in a better way.
You know why Michael Jackson pi**es people of so much? Because he shakes the foundation of conventional "well, it didn't kill me" type mainstream thinking. As a man and as a parent. People can't STAND that because it usually reminds them very bitterly of everything that was done TO THEM, particularly as children.
Michael Jackson comes along and pretty much pushes the button that makes all these people flip, pushing the button RIGHT.WERE.IT.HURTS. You think they'd be happy someone wants to open the wound for them, but they can't see past the pressure of the moment.
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Oh yeah, right, I was with one of those for too long ... but he made me cry all the time. Men and women are not that different - they are just raised differently. Not just 100 years ago, but to this day.
Dear TMZ,
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Oh yeah, right, I was with one of those for too long ... but he made me cry all the time. Men and women are not that different - they are just raised differently. Not just 100 years ago, but to this day.
Dear TMZ,
OHHHHH, that little animal has such a cute face. It is a pity we have to waste it on TMZ.
PACE, that picture with the girl kissing Michael, makes me want to SCREAM. It is simply beautiful.
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Yeah, I'd be messing up that performance. 'ahem, sweety, this is not YANA. Just keep walking, just keep walking.'
I think I looked at that gif for 10 minutes straight.
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Ha, it is pictures like those that drive the MJ haters wild with envy.
Guys I agree with you. We have to expect some nasty stories will be coming out in the media, and we have to be strong.
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Ima gonna PREACH IT until I die.
GO GIRLLLLLLLLLL
We need to develop this attitude toward everyone of these folks who think that a seat in front of a computer or camera means it's okay to bully at dead man by means of bullying his children. Mike's got the bigger one, that is why certain elements of the media are trying to hard. Even in death.
I CAN JUST KEEP LOOKING AT THAT GORGEOUS FACE.
People always say, yeah, you guys are just doing it because it's MJ- well, you know I haven't seen anything as constant and nasty as with MJ. Decades. You'd think he's up there with Stalin, or something, based on decades of this type of nonsense.
Michael's listening.
Every time you expose a mechanism, it looses a little bit of it's efficiency. MJ deals with about all stereotypes and unfair prejudices a human being can currently encounter, all one person, that is why it is so outstandingly cruel.
As you said, ready yourself for some serious mudslinging- expose those that twist the truth into convenient half bakes insinuations.
And I officially give the parent of the week award to, DRUMROLL please- to Michael Jackson.
Not only is he man enough to let his baby wear long hair (you'd think that's something out of the ordinary here in the US- based on some commentary I felt like being in the 50ies or something), no, he doesn't even teach his son that a 'man doesn't cry'/'boys don't cry, so suck it up, sunshine' but wants his baby boy to receive treatment that doesn't traumatize him.
Now THAT's a MAN! :agree:
(some people might disagree and that's cool)
You know, we can spin things too- in a better way.
You know why Michael Jackson pi**es people of so much? Because he shakes the foundation of conventional "well, it didn't kill me" type mainstream thinking. As a man and as a parent. People can't STAND that because it usually reminds them very bitterly of everything that was done TO THEM, particularly as children.
Michael Jackson comes along and pretty much pushes the button that makes all these people flip, pushing the button RIGHT.WERE.IT.HURTS. You think they'd be happy someone wants to open the wound for them, but they can't see past the pressure of the moment.
omg last one is winner exactly how Michael would have felt it.
Wonderful article from Charles Thomson
Michael Jackson: Making a Mountain out of a Molar
How TMZ turned a dental appointment for Michael Jackson's son Blanket in 2008 into a global news story. Photo Credit: Sawf News
By Charles Thomson
January 14, 2011, (Sawf News) - Among the less scrupulous red-top reporters on both sides of the Atlantic, there's an old adage; 'Never let the facts get in the way of a good story'.
I can't think of a recent story which has embodied that philosophy more than TMZ's supposed scoop yesterday, accusing Michael Jackson of pressuring a dentist into putting his youngest son Prince Michael II (AKA Blanket) to sleep with anesthetic.
'MJ Pushed Dr. To Improperly Give Son Anesthesia', read TMZ's headline. Shocking indeed. Certainly more shocking than 'MJ's Son Went To The Dentist Two And A Half Years Ago', which would have been a far more accurate assessment of the situation -- for while TMZ accused Jackson of 'subjecting one of his children to risky medical treatment', the truth was far more banal.
At the heart of this story is the allegation that in July 2008, Dr Mark Tadrissi performed oral surgery on two occasions, once on Jackson and once on his son Blanket, which required the use of anesthetic. The snag? Dr Tadrissi didn't have a permit to use general anesthetic in his office, but called in an anesthesiologist anyway and went ahead with the surgeries. Dr Tadrissi was investigated over his actions in 2009 and sanctioned by the Nevada State Board of Dental Examiners in 2010.
The TMZ article appears to have been written with two specific intentions; the first, to suggest that Jackson was reckless when it came to drugs -- particularly anesthetic, an overdose of which caused his death in June 2009 -- and the second, to suggest that he was a bad father, ordering his then six-year-old child to undergo a procedure involving the 'risky' use of general anesthetic. In actuality, the facts and evidence demonstrate neither point.
Describing the use of anesthetic on a child during oral surgery as a 'risky medical treatment' is utterly inaccurate and entirely irresponsible. According to the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry's (AAPD) website, "General anesthesia can be helpful for children requiring significant surgical procedures." Jackson's son required two hours of dental surgery. The AAPD website also states that, "general anesthetic can be used safely and effectively when administered by an appropriately-trained individual in an appropriately-equipped facility." This brings me neatly to my next point.
According to TMZ's own version of events, which purports to be taken from internal documents, Dr Tadrissi told Jackson he wasn't able to administer anesthetic – so Jackson instructed the doctor to bring in a qualified anesthesiologist.
According to a legal document obtained by SawfNews.com -- a Stipulation Agreement filed by the Nevada State Board of Dental Examiners in March 2010 -- Dr Tadrissi did exactly that, hiring a 'Nevada licensed anesthesiologist' to administer anesthetic during Jackson's own surgery. His son's surgery is not mentioned in the Stipulation Agreement, but there is no evidence to suggest that Dr Tadrissi's actions differed when treating the boy.
This confirmation that Dr Tadrissi hired a licensed anesthesiologist renders some segments of TMZ's article entirely fictitious, not least it's incredibly misleading headline, 'MJ Pushed Dr. To Improperly Give Son Anesthesia'. The anesthetic wasn't given by the doctor and it wasn't given improperly. Moreover, Jackson didn't push the doctor to administer anything. By TMZ's own admission, Jackson specifically asked for a professional anesthesiologist.
The article's first line is also fictitious, stating that, "Michael Jackson subjected one of his children to the same risky medical treatment that eventually killed him." Jackson died in his home after his personal doctor -- not a qualified anesthesiologist – self-confessedly administered anesthetic unnecessarily and did so without any of the necessary accompanying equipment. Conversely, in 2008 Jackson allowed a licensed anesthesiologist to sedate his son using the correct equipment in a dentist's clinic for necessary surgery. The situations aren't remotely comparable.
Once you strip TMZ's scoop of its inaccuracy and hyperbole, here's what you're left with; in 2008, Michael Jackson took his son to a dentist, who told Jackson that his son required a two-hour-long surgical procedure and would need to be anesthetized. Jackson asked the dentist to hire a licensed anesthesiologist. The dentist complied. The boy was sedated under the correct circumstances and monitored by a professional throughout his surgery. In other words, Jackson behaved like any other parent, allowing his child to undergo necessary medical treatment but first ensuring that it was to be done properly.
By wrongly accusing Jackson of 'pushing' and 'cajoling' the dentist into conducting a 'risky medical treatment', TMZ implies that the dentist's care was somehow substandard or dangerous. This is untrue. Dr Tadrissi did not stand accused of endangering his patients, giving substandard care or any other form of incompetence. He simply allowed a licensed anesthesiologist to sedate a patient in his clinic without the correct permit.
So for all TMZ's sensationalism -- which would have you believe that Dr Tadrissi is some sort of Dr Feelgood, dishing out anesthetic like lollipops -- his only real mistake was one akin to selling a few bottles of Wild Turkey out of one's garage without first acquiring a liquor license. Aside from covering the cost of the investigation ($2750), Tadrissi was simply required to complete eight hours of education (four on ethics, four on record keeping) and take a jurisprudence exam.
Through misleading and at times wholly inaccurate wording, TMZ has spun a bureaucratic misdemeanor into an exaggerated tale of medical malpractice and maniacally irresponsible parenting. The timing is suspicious; Dr Conrad Murray has just been ordered to stand trial for the involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson and the media's coverage of both the singer and his physician could significantly impact potential jurors' views on the star's death between now and the trial. By twisting the facts in order to portray Jackson as a deranged diva who demanded the 'risky' use of anesthetic on himself and his six-year-old son, TMZ paints a picture of a man who could very easily have bullied his physician into giving him anesthetic or even have administered it to himself.
TMZ's sensationalistic story about Jackson's trips to the dentist is especially irresponsible given that the website is now seen by many as a go-to spot for news on the star. Ever since the site was the first media outlet in the world to break the news of Jackson's death (although many fans have labeled this a fluke, claiming that the site announced Jackson's death long before it was even called at the hospital) the website has achieved a level of popularity, recognition and perceived credibility which it had never before seen. Already, dozens of other websites have replicated TMZ's story and many more will almost certainly follow suit. In an industry plagued by 'copy and paste' journalism TMZ should take more care to ensure that its journalism is both fair and accurate. Neither can be said for yesterday's story.
http://www.sawfnews.com/Gossip/66107.aspx
Michael Jackson: Making a Mountain out of a Molar
How TMZ turned a dental appointment for Michael Jackson's son Blanket in 2008 into a global news story. Photo Credit: Sawf News
By Charles Thomson
January 14, 2011, (Sawf News) - Among the less scrupulous red-top reporters on both sides of the Atlantic, there's an old adage; 'Never let the facts get in the way of a good story'.
I can't think of a recent story which has embodied that philosophy more than TMZ's supposed scoop yesterday, accusing Michael Jackson of pressuring a dentist into putting his youngest son Prince Michael II (AKA Blanket) to sleep with anesthetic.
'MJ Pushed Dr. To Improperly Give Son Anesthesia', read TMZ's headline. Shocking indeed. Certainly more shocking than 'MJ's Son Went To The Dentist Two And A Half Years Ago', which would have been a far more accurate assessment of the situation -- for while TMZ accused Jackson of 'subjecting one of his children to risky medical treatment', the truth was far more banal.
At the heart of this story is the allegation that in July 2008, Dr Mark Tadrissi performed oral surgery on two occasions, once on Jackson and once on his son Blanket, which required the use of anesthetic. The snag? Dr Tadrissi didn't have a permit to use general anesthetic in his office, but called in an anesthesiologist anyway and went ahead with the surgeries. Dr Tadrissi was investigated over his actions in 2009 and sanctioned by the Nevada State Board of Dental Examiners in 2010.
The TMZ article appears to have been written with two specific intentions; the first, to suggest that Jackson was reckless when it came to drugs -- particularly anesthetic, an overdose of which caused his death in June 2009 -- and the second, to suggest that he was a bad father, ordering his then six-year-old child to undergo a procedure involving the 'risky' use of general anesthetic. In actuality, the facts and evidence demonstrate neither point.
Describing the use of anesthetic on a child during oral surgery as a 'risky medical treatment' is utterly inaccurate and entirely irresponsible. According to the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry's (AAPD) website, "General anesthesia can be helpful for children requiring significant surgical procedures." Jackson's son required two hours of dental surgery. The AAPD website also states that, "general anesthetic can be used safely and effectively when administered by an appropriately-trained individual in an appropriately-equipped facility." This brings me neatly to my next point.
According to TMZ's own version of events, which purports to be taken from internal documents, Dr Tadrissi told Jackson he wasn't able to administer anesthetic – so Jackson instructed the doctor to bring in a qualified anesthesiologist.
According to a legal document obtained by SawfNews.com -- a Stipulation Agreement filed by the Nevada State Board of Dental Examiners in March 2010 -- Dr Tadrissi did exactly that, hiring a 'Nevada licensed anesthesiologist' to administer anesthetic during Jackson's own surgery. His son's surgery is not mentioned in the Stipulation Agreement, but there is no evidence to suggest that Dr Tadrissi's actions differed when treating the boy.
This confirmation that Dr Tadrissi hired a licensed anesthesiologist renders some segments of TMZ's article entirely fictitious, not least it's incredibly misleading headline, 'MJ Pushed Dr. To Improperly Give Son Anesthesia'. The anesthetic wasn't given by the doctor and it wasn't given improperly. Moreover, Jackson didn't push the doctor to administer anything. By TMZ's own admission, Jackson specifically asked for a professional anesthesiologist.
The article's first line is also fictitious, stating that, "Michael Jackson subjected one of his children to the same risky medical treatment that eventually killed him." Jackson died in his home after his personal doctor -- not a qualified anesthesiologist – self-confessedly administered anesthetic unnecessarily and did so without any of the necessary accompanying equipment. Conversely, in 2008 Jackson allowed a licensed anesthesiologist to sedate his son using the correct equipment in a dentist's clinic for necessary surgery. The situations aren't remotely comparable.
Once you strip TMZ's scoop of its inaccuracy and hyperbole, here's what you're left with; in 2008, Michael Jackson took his son to a dentist, who told Jackson that his son required a two-hour-long surgical procedure and would need to be anesthetized. Jackson asked the dentist to hire a licensed anesthesiologist. The dentist complied. The boy was sedated under the correct circumstances and monitored by a professional throughout his surgery. In other words, Jackson behaved like any other parent, allowing his child to undergo necessary medical treatment but first ensuring that it was to be done properly.
By wrongly accusing Jackson of 'pushing' and 'cajoling' the dentist into conducting a 'risky medical treatment', TMZ implies that the dentist's care was somehow substandard or dangerous. This is untrue. Dr Tadrissi did not stand accused of endangering his patients, giving substandard care or any other form of incompetence. He simply allowed a licensed anesthesiologist to sedate a patient in his clinic without the correct permit.
So for all TMZ's sensationalism -- which would have you believe that Dr Tadrissi is some sort of Dr Feelgood, dishing out anesthetic like lollipops -- his only real mistake was one akin to selling a few bottles of Wild Turkey out of one's garage without first acquiring a liquor license. Aside from covering the cost of the investigation ($2750), Tadrissi was simply required to complete eight hours of education (four on ethics, four on record keeping) and take a jurisprudence exam.
Through misleading and at times wholly inaccurate wording, TMZ has spun a bureaucratic misdemeanor into an exaggerated tale of medical malpractice and maniacally irresponsible parenting. The timing is suspicious; Dr Conrad Murray has just been ordered to stand trial for the involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson and the media's coverage of both the singer and his physician could significantly impact potential jurors' views on the star's death between now and the trial. By twisting the facts in order to portray Jackson as a deranged diva who demanded the 'risky' use of anesthetic on himself and his six-year-old son, TMZ paints a picture of a man who could very easily have bullied his physician into giving him anesthetic or even have administered it to himself.
TMZ's sensationalistic story about Jackson's trips to the dentist is especially irresponsible given that the website is now seen by many as a go-to spot for news on the star. Ever since the site was the first media outlet in the world to break the news of Jackson's death (although many fans have labeled this a fluke, claiming that the site announced Jackson's death long before it was even called at the hospital) the website has achieved a level of popularity, recognition and perceived credibility which it had never before seen. Already, dozens of other websites have replicated TMZ's story and many more will almost certainly follow suit. In an industry plagued by 'copy and paste' journalism TMZ should take more care to ensure that its journalism is both fair and accurate. Neither can be said for yesterday's story.
http://www.sawfnews.com/Gossip/66107.aspx
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Tmz has wrongly accused this dentist in the past of give Michael drugs.
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isn't that because Dr Murray put the dentist's name in the mix?
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Excellent, and rational, article!
Sophielo
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Charles Thompson is right. 'MJ takes child to the dentist for procedure' wouldn't bring in the hits now would it?