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June 14th hearing thread: All discussion pertaining to todays hearing in this thread please

xthunderx2 said:
I want to know what Janets tweet means. ...we need to know what truth? ....they are trying to pin this druggie label on Michael....and damn it ...he was not a druggie..the autopsy report doesnt lie.
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Yeah me too.
He sure wasn't a druggie!!!

we love you Michael!
 
The problem I have is that all of Michael Jackson's siblings and his father Joe, disgust me. They make me depressed.
I am trying to remember to always ignore them. :cheeky:
 
okay here's judge's explanation

Judge Michael Pastor refused to overturn the decision made by the last judge to hear the case.

"I don't have ability to revisit the actions of one of my colleagues. I do not have jurisdiction to revisit this matter. It doesn't have anything to do with how I feel or what I think. It has to do with the law and this court's ability to follow the law," Pastor said.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/michael-jacksons-doctor-keeping-medical-license
 
xthunderx2 said:
I want to know what Janets tweet means. ...we need to know what truth? ....they are trying to pin this druggie label on Michael....and damn it ...he was not a druggie..the autopsy report doesnt lie.
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Unfortuately Michael's father Joe, and all of Michael's siblings want MONEY more than they want Justice for Michael Jackson.
We must put our faith in God, and pray for Justice for
Michael Jackson.
 
I remember Geraldine saying today that Murray left to go meet with a callgirl.

someone must have noticed Murray leaving and coming back.

And IF he did that, that makes no sense to be an accident. He would KNOW that if he left his patient that long with too much propofol, Michael would die.

So none of that about leaving for the callgirl makes sense. The only thing I understand and that makes sense to me is that this was intentional.
 
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Ashtanga said:
Anyone watched or are watching the TMZ Live? Someone may say briefly what Harvey said? Thanks!
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at the start of tmz live, harvey levin said Brown's move to suspend Murray's licence was just political and had no standing and it was stupid of him to try to suspend his medical licence when he was rejected before.

Then he talked about Joe's recent actions.
 
Thank you guys for all the updates, for watching it with me and clearing things up :flowers:
I do not know what to think about Janet's tweets. But if I hear just one more person saying Michael was drug addict I am going do explode;( Randy with Joe are enough for me.
I am kinda upset this case is taking so long, every court date is hard for us to deal with, then we demand Justice for Michael and we demand it now.
Anyway, I am gonna download "We've had enough" one more time today, 'cause that's how I feel now :depressed:
Thank you again, love you all.

Btw, if one could answer me: who are this Eddie Jones and Geraldine (? i forgot the name). I mean, I know they're supporters for Justice4MJ, they're doing ustreams, posting on FB. But why do they always speak up? Is Jones attorney in this case or what? Their actions, as for now, just aren't IMO more about publicity (it's just my opinion, no personal attacks). Thank u.
 
ivy said:
at the start of tmz live, harvey levin said Brown's move to suspend Murray's licence was just political and had no standing and it was stupid of him to try to suspend his medical licence when he was rejected before.

Then he talked about Joe's recent actions.
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Thanks Ivy!

But I'm a little confused... about who is Brown? :scratch:
 
The Lost Child said:
Btw, if one could answer me: who are this Eddie Jones and Geraldine (? i forgot the name). I mean, I know they're supporters for Justice4MJ, they're doing ustreams, posting on FB. But why do they always speak up? Is Jones attorney in this case or what? Their actions, as for now, just aren't IMO more about publicity (it's just my opinion, no personal attacks). Thank u.
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maybe there really are some who REALLY want justice. that's a possibility.

Anyways, I wonder what Murray's next pr stunt will be for the next hearing.....we can't just let him keep on doing things like this and get away with it.

We need to fight back, or we got to be stronger, and wiser. And fight back twice as hard.
 
Ashtanga said:
Thanks Ivy!

But I'm a little confused... about who is Brown? :scratch:
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brown filed the motion to have the licence pulled. does he work for the medical board? cant remember. if so they need to do it themselves instead of asking the judge
 
This is a joke. He's getting away with murder. No no, not metaphorically, he's actually GETTING away with MURDER and here we are, stuck with the media and the Jacksons to basically blame it on Michael.

I'm just gonna go cry.
 
Is it wrong to say that I don't care what happens to his license all I care about is to get this damn trial moving. I mean if they wait too long they may lose evidence and that's never good. Plus I can't wait another year, this whole year has been torturous enough. At this point I'm just confused as hell over what to believe and all I want is the full evidence laid out for the world to finally see what really happened that day. The media and all those witnesses have contradictory stories and they're just confusing me.
 
I just tweeted Janet and said she needs to go home and read the damn autopsy result. He was killed.

Urgh.
 
DanceOfZenab1994 said:
This is a joke. He's getting away with murder. No no, not metaphorically, he's actually GETTING away with MURDER and here we are, stuck with the media and the Jacksons to basically blame it on Michael.

I'm just gonna go cry.
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yeah, far out, eh? the media was totally expected, I mean - pff. but his own family, his own flesh and blood... traitors. makes me physically sick.:puke:
 
DanceOfZenab1994 said:
This is a joke. He's getting away with murder. No no, not metaphorically, he's actually GETTING away with MURDER and here we are, stuck with the media and the Jacksons to basically blame it on Michael.

I'm just gonna go cry.
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hang on there. the trial hasn't even started yet. In the end the 12 jurors will determine the outcome. Not the media. not the family.
 
any idea of how long prelims last ivy? is it a day? a week and does the judge rule straight away or leave it for days?
 
ivy said:
hang on there. the trial hasn't even started yet. In the end the 12 jurors will determine the outcome. Not the media. not the family.
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you're right. it's just difficult not to be worried about the objectivity of the jury when Michael's own family is out there implying he was a drug addict and practically handing Murray's defence the sticks. aaargh, I wish they all just shut up!! so frustrating.:doh:
 
I'm so upset and angry but we cannot give up. I know we can't.

We won in 2005 and we'll win again, damn it!
 
Justthefacts said:
It is up to Nevada and Texas to take his license. That is where he practices at. I know you guys are upset but that is how it is. Murray does not practice in Cali so it is not his place to take his license
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Maybe someone should tell the Texas Med Board that...I've posted this in the past, it appears to have renewed relevance in light of today's events. If I understand it correctly the Texas med board was waiting on the actions of the other 2 states, now we're saying Cali has no standing in whether or not to pull Murray's license? This all seems pretty bureaucratic with no one state medical board stepping up to the plate to take the lead, it appears as though law enforcement and the boards of the 3 states aren't communicating.

This is what the Texas Med Board had to say in Dec 09 re Murray:
http://blogs.chron.com/medblog/archi...l_board_q.html

Houston Chronicle
Will Texas Medical Board revoke Conrad Murray's license?

"So what's the latest from the Texas Medical Board, which, contrary to the impression you might have got from everyone's favorite gossip site TMZ, has not confirmed it is investigating Murray. State law only allows disciplinary actions to be made public, not investigations.

"Murray, like all Texas doctors, is subject to scrutiny as well as entitled to due process as outlined in the law which the board must follow," TMB President Irvin Zeitler said in a statement. "Developments and final actions in California and Nevada on both a medical board and criminal action basis will be monitored."

Curious whether that meant Texas is letting the two other states where Murray is licensed take the lead, hoping to piggyback on their action, we called the board for clarification. Mari Robinson, the board's executive director, said it simply means if another state board were to take a disciplinary action against Murray, that would trigger a TMB investigation (if one is not already under way) and could trigger immediate TMB action. She said that a license revocation by another state would obviously receive greater priority than a fine.

Beyond that, Robinson wasn't tipping her hand about Murray's status in Texas. If officials deemed Murray a threat to his patient, the board could act quickly to convene an emergency hearing at which some sort of limitation could be placed on the doctor's practice, such as suspending his license or requiring he be accompanied by a supervising physician. It would appear Murray is not seen as such a threat, given the lack of such a hearing or rumors of such a plan more than seven months after Jackson's death.

Robinson acknowledged many Houstonians' concerns, but emphasized the board still needs to meet legal standards and that proof a violation occurred can be difficult to obtain."
 
elusive moonwalker said:
any idea of how long prelims last ivy? is it a day? a week and does the judge rule straight away or leave it for days?
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depends on the level of evidence and the complexity of the case.

it could be over in a day or it could take a few weeks.

judges generally can take a few days to go over the evidence and make a decision.
 
ivy said:
depends on the level of evidence and the complexity of the case.

it could be over in a day or it could take a few weeks.

judges generally can take a few days to go over the evidence and make a decision.
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ok thanks so it could be anything! lol im going away on the 2nd sept hope its done by then
 
Can I just ask something in regards to the judge's decision with Murray's license, was he trying to say he cannot go ahead and change the ruling the other judge made?Though I don't remember what the previous ruling was tbh I just member being mad we had to wait that long for the next date. (I think there was another judge before this one please correct me)
 
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