Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

[LastTear]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

TMZ spoke to Weitzman and the estate has not had any contact from the Remember team. So was the $3.2 million just pulled from the sky?

 

[WhoIsIt89]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

-Sigh- She's at it again. In my opinion, I'd rather have a documentary that is Estate backed, with all the necessary footage and music included, instead of this shameful plug by Howard Mann & Co. I just don't understand what she sees in this guy, after all the negative ways he's impacted Michael and his legacy and she still continues to keep him around and work with this man. And basically leads the children into this sham along with herself knowing they don't really have a choice. I'm not putting a dime into this crap.


And Joe should just let Blanket be, if he wants to be an entertainer when he's older, fine. I'm sure he'll find the suitable outlets available to get him ready for the big stage. He doesn't need Joe's method of training. I do agree with one thing he said though, Blanket is a splitting image of Michael as a child.

 

[krikzil]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

TMZ spoke to Weitzman and the estate has not had any contact from the Remember team. So was the $3.2 million just pulled from the sky?

At this point, I can't help but be suspicious it's a specific amount needed for other purposes.

 

[passy001]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

At this point, I can't help but be suspicious it's a specific amount needed for other purposes.

To feed the curbs.

 

[souldreamer7]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

It's blocked in my country as well. Could someone perhaps post transcripts? If someone could somehow upload it to vimeo.com would be great!

 

[marebear]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Did Michael ever ask his fans for money for anything he was doing?

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Did Michael ever ask his fans for money for anything he was doing?

You got to be kidding right? Michael was never, I repeat NEVER EVER a low life scum unlike his mother and rest of his family.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Screencap from MJ Justice Project. Could we believe in Prince? I don't know if he really has Instagram, I don't have an account.

 

[marebear]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

You got to be kidding right? Michael was never, I repeat NEVER EVER a low life scum unlike his mother and rest of his family.

My point was if he never asked then they should never ask either. It's tacky.

 

[Zakk]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Screencap from MJ Justice Project. Could we believe in Prince? I don't know if he really has Instagram, I don't have an account.

that's prince's verified twitter name so it's likely it's his instagram name also! I think we should believe prince, I'm not hesitating for one second that Howard Mann and his crew are the exclusive people behind this! it needs to be stopped and all donations made should be refunded to fans! I was hesitant about it from the start, I just hope justice is served before this gets published and fans go on an outrage (on top of what is already going on).

 

[ivy]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Screencap from MJ Justice Project. Could we believe in Prince? I don't know if he really has Instagram, I don't have an account.

that's prince's verified twitter name so it's likely it's his instagram name also!

his twitter name is written as jaxon, and there's no confirmation that he has an instagram. So until confirmed I wouldn't take it as legit.

I'm not hesitating for one second that Howard Mann and his crew are the exclusive people behind this!

Am I the only one who sees Katherine on video asking fans for help?

 

[Ashtanga]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Oh Katherine...

*big sigh*



This circus will catch fire.... :bugeyed :fear:

 

[Aquarius]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

I don't think, even if they raise the 3 mil, the estate will make any deals with them. As the estate knows, Michael deserves the best productions only. Since the estate didn't know about this doc, I believe they money they're asking is just for their pockets.

It is despicable the way Michael's children are being used to get money to a lady who doesn't need it and to a porn producer who should be ashamed of using children for financial gain. And I know Katherine, as well as Joe, had no idea of how to raise children and years later she should know they didn't do a good job, but she still makes the same mistakes. And why? Only because she knows they are the ones who can bring the money home. They are the ones who can satisfy her selfish needs.

I just hope the children know their father would never do what their beloved grandmother is doing with them.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

That's why I didn't assure Ivy, I'm doubtful about the authenticity of that message. I wanted to post it in case some of you knew if Prince has Instagram or not.

 

[marebear]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

I don't think I have ever seen such ungrateful people. Where did Michael get his class and dignity from? I hope his children keep with them what Michael taught them. I hope they don't lose that.

 

[krikzil]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Am I the only one who sees Katherine on video asking fans for help?

Nope. I just watched it on YouTube. At the end she says,

Next year is the fifth anniversary of Michael's passing. We miss Michael very much and this film shows how much we love him. If Michael was here, his words would be, "I love you more."

I'm inviting all of Michael's fans to join me, Prince, Paris and Blanket to finish this wonderful project. Please join us. I'd love to have you."

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

I don't think I have ever seen such ungrateful people. Where did Michael get his class and dignity from? I hope his children keep with them what Michael taught them. I hope they don't lose that.

Nowadays is really hard to believe Michael was releated to them. He was a kindhearted, hard-working and so ethical man, he raised himself no doubt!

 

[Petrarose]

Estate releases a statement

Hello:


The Estate of Michael Jackson has no involvement with the solicitation of funds for the completion of the purported documentary film being promoted on the FundAnything.com internet site. The Estate would never ask Michael’s fans to contribute their money to finance any speculative project.


Furthermore, the site is offering merchandise bearing the Michael Jackson name, likeness and/or trademarks which are the intellectual property of the Estate of Michael Jackson and which may be legally exploited only by the Estate and by its authorized licensees.


The Estate will continue to release only the highest quality finished, professional projects showcasing the genius and humanity of Michael such as the This Is It film and the two very successful shows with Cirque du Soleil (Immortal and ONE).

That's right!!! The estate would never beg us for money to showcase Michael's genius. It seems the estate is always on standby to release some letter warning some crook about not doing something, cautioning some crook, explaining how they are not involved in some scam... some people are making the estate waste a lot of energy and money fighting to keep Michael's legacy safe. There they go again using content on their site that belongs to the estate. What does it take for Mann & Katherine to understand that they cannot do that? I mean the court already explained it, so maybe now it is just time to fine Mann, Katherine and their other business partners.

 

[Krshna28]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Documentaries do not cost $3million to make. This is just another moneymaking scam by the Jackson family.

They're not getting a single penny from me.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Let's see these kids are exploited for everything: helping grandma by signing belts, helping grandpa with fake perfume, helping grandma with fake charity, helping Latoya with Mr. Pink, helping family with Wales tribute, helping family with AEG case, helping Katherine get Oprah interview, helping Katherine with documentary, and on and on. Their helping always cause money to enter some Jackson pocket, except for the AEG case where the money was not won!!

 

[qbee]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Has anyone from Jackson family or Katherine's attorney publicly denounced Katherine is behind the "release" of this documentary? That should say it all. We know she at one time considered it based on the footage of her speaking about it. They would certainly come forward by now to say she is not involved in the release and funding site by now if she wasn't, especially after the estates made their statement about it.

 

[xosweetseducingsighsxo]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Nope. I just watched it on YouTube. At the end she says,

Next year is the fifth anniversary of Michael's passing. We miss Michael very much and this film shows how much we love him. If Michael was here, his words would be, "I love you more."

I'm inviting all of Michael's fans to join me, Prince, Paris and Blanket to finish this wonderful project. Please join us. I'd love to have you."

My sister and I just watched it.

That video..it's just..smfh. It does not cost $3,000,000 to make a dang documentary, and I don't see how some fans can believe or help this woman. It seems like all these Jacksons do is drag Prince, Paris and Blanket into their little schemes.. You'd think that the Jacksons were just as nice and kind as Mike, but it's obvious he didn't get it from them. Ugh..the shame.

 

[ivy]

Note: Friedman is wrong about one thing. Estate sued Sonia Lowe too.

Michael Jackson’s Mom in Hot Water Because of Former Partner Sued by Son’s Estate

by Roger Friedman - December 19, 2013 12:15 am


You cannot make this up. Remember Howard Mann? He was the guy who went into business with Michael Jackson’s mom, Katherine. He had the contents of the warehouse with a lot of Michael’s memorabilia. He bought it out of bankruptcy. Then he published a book with Mrs. Jackson and (no one really knows) 25,000 copies. The Michael Jackson estate sued him and won a defining settlement. The Estate got back all its copyrights. Mann was supposed to ante up $2.5 million. Everyone thought it was over.

But you know, with Michael Jackson’s family, it’s never really over.

The estate did not sue Mann’s girlfriend and/or business partner, Sonia Lowe, who was working with him on all those projects. Now it turns out — are you ready for this? — she’s behind the so-called documentary with Mrs. Jackson and Michael’s kids that’s being promoted on fundanything.com.

I mean, really.

Lowe was dumb enough to list her credit as producer of the doc on LinkedIn. She also answered fans’ queries on Twitter about her involvement. She admitted that the documentary was her project and tried to explain crowdfunding to angry Jackson fans.

And lurking in the background, inevitably, is Howard Mann. I’ve sent them each emails. Neither of them has responded.

If Mann is operating through Lowe to get the doc made, he could be in violation of the settlement agreements he signed with the Michael Jackson estate last year.

Meantime, the proposed doc– called “Remembering Michael”–has so far raised only $3,736 toward a $3.2 million goal on fundanything. Yikes.

 

[Tygger]

Bubs, no clarification post?

Krizkil, you may believe it is acceptable for Gest and Cascio to profit from their memories (including omissions and/or embellishments) of Michael and not for Mann to through Michael’s beneficiaries. I believe that is a contradiction.

I have no problem if Mann wants to distribute this film. My issue is with the funding for licensing fees. Katherine is not a producer for this film so she will not see any monies from this funding; Mann/Lowe will if they do not give $3.2M in full to the executors. Ivy has already explained Katherine will see 25% of profits. Profits should not be confused with funding. Katherine will not receive any monies from this funding no matter how many times that is erroneously suggested and repeated.

You also cannot guarantee that if those funds are realized that the executors will not accept the licensing fee. Michael’s estate is still in debt, in case you forgot so, they may not be in the position to reject that sum and their statement did not suggest they would reject that sum.

Serendipity, you will have to point out the excuse I made and who I am excusing in that post. Again, this is about Mann attempting to fund a licensing fee which I believe to be a scheme for him and Lowe. Some fans are not focused on that because this is another opportunity to voice their distaste for whichever Jackson for whatever their reasons. Katherine will only realize 25% of the film’s profits NOT from funding the licensing fee.

'pancake day at mj's'

Bonnie Blue, love that phrase.

Korgnex, I was unaware that a documentary by an Academy award nominated director was considered a minor project.

Last Tear, I do not believe TMZ spoke to Weitzman. They most likely pulled the quotes from the statement posted in this thread. The TMZ article is incorrect as Katherine will not get access to the funding monies; Mann/Lowe will.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Screencap from MJ Justice Project. Could we believe in Prince? I don't know if he really has Instagram, I don't have an account.

That's from a fan who defends the Jackson family no matter what the cost and doesn't get/represses that Katherine Jackson is very much involved in this project as is Howard Mann.
I found it kinda funny that most of the Jackson family admirers - the usual suspects - have not tweeted anything about that project since we've learnt about it. That always happens when they are unsure whether to love or hate something depending on what the Jacksons say.

 

[Bubs]

Why do you constantly make excuses for these people? I don't get it. Mann is able to make schemes "under the Jackson" name because Katherine allowed him to and did so willingly AND to top it all off, gave him MJ's minor children to use too! Why would ANY fan who respected MJ even a little, would make an excuse for this is mind boggling.

Katherine is sitting there asking fans to help finish the docu. Don't tell me she's clueless as to what that means. Has she come out to warn us about his "schemes"? Nope, she hasn't. She is clearly participating and supporting this, just like she did with all the other schemes they pulled together. I don't even think she cares what he does and how he does it, as long as he gives her her 25%.

You are right. KJ has always been into business and knows thing and two about it. She ain't this clueless woman that people are taking advances of her. She herself is willing participator with these money crapping schemes.
This is what she wrote in her book and nothing has changed since then.
"People in the music business know the truth about my relationship with my kids. When a record-company executive or a business associate has a hard time reaching one of the children, he typically attempts to make contact through me. Also, I am frequently asked to approach a specific child with a business proposition. If I think that the proposition has merit, I present it. (However, I am careful not to approach the children too often. I don’t want them to begin thinking, Uh-oh, here comes Mother again, trying to talk us into doing something"

Now days they approach her with proposition to exploit MJ's name and his kids, and she seemingly accepts all of them.

 

[ivy]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

I have no problem if Mann wants to distribute this film.

some could have issues with that. Mann's partner is Vaccaro who is not only sued by Michael twice but also helped Sneddon in 2005. So having no problem with the documentary being released and distributed means putting money in the pockets of those people.

Katherine is not a producer for this film so she will not see any monies from this funding; Mann/Lowe will if they do not give $3.2M in full to the executors. Katherine will not receive any monies from this funding no matter how many times that is erroneously suggested and repeated.

I love it how you write stuff like you were in the room with Katherine or have access to the bank accounts and know everything for a fact. In reality you are only making personal assumptions and then act like they are indisputable fact.

which I believe to be a scheme for him and Lowe

and you know it's nothing more than your belief and opinion. So why do you insist - on every single post I must add- to force people to accept your opinions as a fact?

Anyway...

First of all, the funding web page lists Katherine as a "co-executive producer" and honestly no one know how any money collected would be used or shared. All of the money collected could be paid for license fees and Mann/Lowe/ katherine would not see any money from funding. Estate might not be paid and Mann keep the money only for himself. Estate might not be paid and Mann and Katherine could share the funding money and so on. All of them are possibilities and no one know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

Ivy has already explained Katherine will see 25% of profits. Profits should not be confused with funding.

Mann and Vaccaro will also get 25% of profits as well as the other partners. So you are okay as long as Katherine gets a cut?

 

[Bubs]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

Am I the only one who sees Katherine on video asking fans for help?

No you are not, and if she isn't supposed to be behind this scam, why PPB was interviewed without her permission or her being there, or does she rent kids by hour to anyone who needs kids to support their money crapping ideas?

KJ's camp is gone quiet. I think there are lots of things going on behind the scenes such as how to restore KJ image as "loving" gran-mother and "grieving" mother, and how others are making KJ to do things:doh:

 

[HIStory]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

I don't know if they really intend to pay for licencing fees, but still $3.2 million seems way too much for a documentary - even with licencing fees.

 

[HIStory]

Re: Katherine Jackson documentary called "Remembering Michael"/ fans asked to help with funding

I don't know if they really intend to pay for licencing fees, but still $3.2 million seems way too much for a documentary - even with licencing fees.

And if Katherine has really nothing to do with it then why didn't her camp has come out already and made a statement about it? People are giving their money and if someone is acting in Katherine's name without her consent it's a crime and the whole thing needs to be shut down as soon as possible. That it didn't happen is very telling IMO.