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Oh the irony! randy in court heard to be muttering that its not true when flanagan was bringing up klien and saying mj was a demoral addict.
Oh the irony! randy in court heard to be muttering that its not true when flanagan was bringing up klien and saying mj was a demoral addict.
I. so its worth watching the cross even with flanagan bringing up klien?
.I think flanagan is on prose payroll and he is infiltrated in defence team
I can't wait to hear Flannagan after this one:
" If....if....if......the dog had eaten the equipment, you wouldn't be thinking that now. Would CHA'?''
Thanks for the updates and youtube links. Caught up with steinberg - mr hot doc - on the direct and the cross. If this was a boxing match, the referee would have had to step in. I was actually surprised the defence came back after the break, and didn't just ask to go straight to sentencing! It was looking that bad.
Did i pick up from flannagan that they are now backing away from murray being away from mj for just 2 mins, or was being out of the room for 20 mins just one of the hypotheticals flannagan threw out? i got confused, which was perhaps flannagan's intention.
I'm really not sure how the defense are going to get round the 911 issue. I have a really vague recollection early in the trial the defence asking the security if they would allow the police in through the gates and can't remember what was said. But this would just mean murray making two calls, 911 and to security or one call to security to call 911.
I think flanagan is on prose payroll and he is infiltrated in defence team
I've been expecting him to involve Kenya at some point... After the security, the chef, why not the dog ?I can't wait to hear Flannagan after this one:
" If....if....if......the dog had eaten the equipment, you wouldn't be thinking that now. Would CHA'?''
just watched the testimony of the dr up to the mid afternoon break on http://www.youtube.com/user/JustMeSTKK#p/c/2E0A9BCC7823F02A/3/zxsu9GzZY2s is the rest of the testimony available anywhere?
I hope Kamanger holds fast and digs his heels in when it comes to the cross later. He needs to be as focused as Steinberg.
yes, on the same channel, try this link : http://www.youtube.com/user/JustMeSTKK#p/u (don't ask, I don't know why you couldn't access the videos with your link..)
I just want to say one more thing about Steinberg, did you all see the look he gave Murray....with a smile on his face, it was a Got ya scumbag look.
Flanagan has had all night to get his questions ready for Kamagar, I think he will focus on addict aspect, I hope the witness can hold up to Flanagans confused mind.
Did i pick up from flannagan that they are now backing away from murray being away from mj for just 2 mins, or was being out of the room for 20 mins just one of the hypotheticals flannagan threw out? i got confused, which was perhaps flannagan's intention.
I'm really not sure how the defence are going to get round the 911 issue. I have a really vague recollection early in the trial the defence asking the security if they would allow the police in through the gates and can't remember what was said. But this would just mean murray making two calls, 911 and to security or one call to security to call 911.
The DA and the witness are treating Murray's words like they were all true. This IMO forces Murray or his lawyers to admit that they were lies. And that looks real bad ESP since his lawyer was sitting right next to him
ouch i see the witness talked about insomnia that could be caused by withdrawling from a drug. u know flanagan is gonna jump on that
They have to back up from the "2 minutes" because Rogers and Steinberg said it was improbable that Michael could wake up , become alert enough to administer himself drugs. Furthermore both Steinberg and Senneff said if it was that recent and 911 was immediately called Michael could have been revived with no brain damage.
So in order to support self administration and remove the need to call for 911 they need to give a longer period - a period that Michael could have waken up, become alert, took the drugs, and go into a respiratory arrest, and that his heart stops and he dies. They need to argue that when Murray came it was too late and it would make no difference to call 911.
Still it would leave why he left Michael alone, why he left the drugs at arm reach and why he lied to explain. And you can see prosecution asking this hypothetical to multiple witnesses if it would account to gross negligence. Very similar to T-Mez and even TMZ's story today I think Murray might have cornered himself with that interview with detectives.
It was up to Murray to find out if it were true. And no matter what he didn't
They did admit Murray lied. Fran all but said that Murray was out of the room for more than 2 minutes and Michael was dead when Murray did found him where in his police statement, he clearly said that Michael was warm, had a pulse after he checked it, and it happened recently.
If the defense is going to say he was in 'denial' about Michael being dead, how do you explain him checking his pulse and finding the heart was still beating? Once you admit that your clinic lied for whatever reason, it brings everything into question. Such as, how can you trust this guy about the time each drug was given and the amount? At the end, the DA has to hammer this home because the bunk of the defense's case is based on Murray's words alone.
ouch i see the witness talked about insomnia that could be caused by withdrawling from a drug. u know flanagan is gonna jump on that
Don't forget that Murray also stated that Michael had a pulse (can't remember the exect medical term) and therfore could have been saved, are they going to say he made a mistake about that as well.
They did admit Murray lied. Fran all but said that Murray was out of the room for more than 2 minutes and Michael was dead when Murray did found him where in his police statement, he clearly said that Michael was warm, had a pulse after he checked it, and it happened recently.
If the defense is going to say he was in 'denial' about Michael being dead, how do you explain him checking his pulse and finding the heart was still beating? Once you admit that your clinic lied for whatever reason, it brings everything into question. Such as, how can you trust this guy about the time each drug was given and the amount? At the end, the DA has to hammer this home because the bunk of the defense's case is based on Murray's words alone.
the pros mentioned they had some addict expert in a motion according to some article from a while back. if thats the case maybe they will be used during the rebuttal stage as we know thats all murrays defence is gonna beThis is no Klien related insomnia issue. A pity it is not the pros role to show that Michael was not an addict at the time of death. Now we have to live with the media and Muarry's claim that Michael is an addict.