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Murray Trial - 5 October - Day 7 - Discussion

Regarding the tape - Anyone else think thus is CM taping a sedation countdown to see how long it takes for MJ to go down? I don't believe that MJ did this to himself. The slurring and beautiful stream of consciousness is consistant with a possible intended/attended sedation.
 
Mariuana said:
Bodyguards didn't let him come back and hide "cream" did they? Or he hid all those bags when Seneff suprised him when came for his outfit?
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My understanding is that because he rode in the ambulance to the hospital, he had no way to get back to MJ's residence, which is why he was asking at the hospital for someone to drive him back to the residence to 'hide the cream'....he was denied this. I suspect that he hid some of the items at the time he was alone in the room w/ Alberto Alvarez, and more of them when Senneff came back into the room and startled him.
 
Hardest day by far it seems...I just got in and read it all...Good day for Pros too.

One thing I noticed that wasn't sure if anyone else mentioned.But did you all see the huge picture of that kid on the chair when they showed part of the room mj was in?...I thought that was beautiful and spoke volumes of the man.

Also, I believe he really wasn't reading that audio ..For many reasons.One being the ' Go..go'..That is something only a spontaneous mj would say
 
LuvUMost said:
Regarding the tape - Anyone else think thus is CM taping a sedation countdown to see how long it takes for MJ to go down? I don't believe that MJ did this to himself. The slurring and beautiful stream of consciousness is consistant with a possible intended/attended sedation.
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It's very possible, yes, I agree.
 
lemon662 said:
Do the documents show that though? All I could see when they showed the documents briefly was that MJ had a history of insomnia, was on Xanax and Restoril (both are benzos; the former is for anxiety, the latter is a sleeping medication). A lot of people take these regularly and aren't addicted to them per se. I'm not sure we were able to see/read enough of the documents to conclude that they would have shown MJ as having a history of addiction to any particularly medication..........plus, I would imagine that a lot of celebrities who perhaps DO have an addiction to particular medications, their doctors may not even be aware of this, or the extent of it.
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I have to disagree with highlighted part. Two weeks ago we lost a co-worker to cardiac arrest who was on those same meds. She's been taking them for years on and off. Her problem started with pain meds that get you addicted and cause insomnia as side effect. So the doctors add Zanax to the combo for sleep. After a while it didn't work anymore so she was boosing up to get to sleep and one day two weeks ago she never woke up.

The official cause of death is "cardiac arrest" which has to be way up there in leading cause of death. It's all due to mixing meds but Big Pharma don't want anybody to know their meds are so addictives and deadly and since most people don't ask for an autopsy and are satisfied with the 'cardiac arrest" cause, Big pharma and their pushers-with-degrees go on doing what they do: killing people.
 
Strange, NOW Walgren is wearing gloves. He just showed Fleak the bag containing the bloody gauze that was found but it was sealed within the bag so no risk of him coming into direct contact w/ blood. Strange. Maybe he's just extra cautious.
 
yeah he's wearing glowes now, he should've worn them from the beginning imo
 
showing the grocery bag found inside the blue bag. another diprivan bottle bloody prep pad found in the blue bag. pulse oxy meter in the bag.plastic bag full of medical stuff found inside the blue bag aswell. opened bag saying IV admin set on it.urinary leg bag IV catheter packaging. alcohol pre pads. dressing backings. syringe packaging. vial top. catherter cap.
 
riviera1992 said:
I have to disagree with highlighted part. Two weeks ago we lost a co-worker to cardiac arrest who was on those same meds. She's been taking them for years on and off. Her problem started with pain meds that get you addicted and cause insomnia as side effect. So the doctors add Zanax to the combo for sleep. After a while it didn't work anymore so she was boosing up to get to sleep and one day two weeks ago she never woke up.

The official cause of death is "cardiac arrest" which has to be way up there in leading cause of death. It's all due to mixing meds but Big Pharma don't want anybody to know their meds are so addictives and deadly and since most people don't ask for an autopsy and are satisfied with the 'cardiac arrest" cause, Big pharma and their pushers-with-degrees go on doing what they do: killing people.
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I'm very sorry for the loss of your coworker but I'm not sure how you can blame these medications that she was taking as having caused her death. If she was reportedly, according to you, "boozing it up to get to sleep" it would seem realistic, then, that she was taking these sedative meds AND consuming alcohol with them which most people know you should not do (mix benzodiazepine meds with alcohol, which is a known Depressant). Seems, from what you've stated, it's very possible that the combination of her meds plus drinking a lot of alcohol caused her respirations to become very suppressed, they then stopped, then heart stopped (cardiac arrest). Again, if she wasn't taking the meds as prescribed, I don't see how that's Big Pharma's fault.

And I stand by my statement that a lot of people take these meds as they're prescribed and they're not addicted to them.
 
Murray might very well have a heart attack at any moment now LOL
 
light blue/brown baby essential bag that was found with the blue and black bag. the baby bag contained 2 full diprivan bottles.and another 7 bottles of diprivan in the bag aswell. 4 of the bottles were full and unopened 3 were opened with various amounts in them. 3 lidocane bottles. 3 bottles of midazalam (sp). 2 unopened, one open.4 bottles of flum...2 bottles of loraz...one unopened the half full. eperdrine (sp) bottle from applied pharmacy. tube of cream.eye drops. IV tubing.blue tournaquet (sp) (bandage).5 individual business cards with murrays name/company on it

does anyone remember if the baby bag was mentioned by the medics or alberto?
 
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Michell and co are snakes, do not trust a word they say. Next time I hear them they will probably change to their old selves again.


P.S. WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL is currently trending on TWITTER worldwide at no.4 RE-TWEET if you have TWITTER.
 
AllForLove said:
God :cry: to see all these meds on the pros desk is really hurting :(
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What in the world was wrong with Murray? What was he thinking?

I get that Michael just wanted to rest. But, what in the world was in Murray's head?

Have they made the point that this is all stuff from Murray and that some of those bottles had lots of pills left in them?
 
how could they keep the unvoluntary manslaughter ? I can't believe he pleaded non guilty, jury must be stunned by the amount of meds. Can they ask to increase the charges ?
 
micah said:
Michell and co are snakes, do not trust a word they say. Next time I hear them they will probably change to their old selves again.


P.S. WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL is currently trending on TWITTER worldwide at no.4 RE-TWEET if you have TWITTER.
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And that is all that he asked from people--love!
 
18 tubes of hydrocolin cream found in the cabinet next to the bags. 18 tubes of benoquin found next to the bags aswell. took away the saline bag and IV stand, rollor clamp/iv tubing on the 29th the bag and stand that was next to mjs bed.
 
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