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Murray Trial - 7 October - Day 9 - Discussion

So HLN is saying Rebbie and her daughter left the courtroom then when she came back she was too close to the jury. That's why the judge got upset.

They're saying Rebbie was mad about Conrad Murray's lying.
 
Adams gave it to mj when he was doing dental work. four times in 2008.implants.root canals
 
Reebie prob left to sell another iphone cover or talk to stacy brown.
 
MsCassieMollie said:
TMez said it best:
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That statement you put up from Mesereau is heartbreaking to hear..esp about his so called celebrity friends who wouldn't help.....:censored: any idea of who some of them were?

If Mike had done TII he would have been right back at the top and could have told those same people who turned their back on him to get lost.
 
volitional said:
That statement you put up from Mesereau is heartbreaking to hear..esp about his so called celebrity friends who wouldn't help.....:censored: any idea of who some of them were?

If Mike had done TII he would have been right back at the top and could have told those same people who turned their back on him to get lost.
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I have no idea sorry.
 
So I take it then, that this Dr Adams is a dentist or dental surgeon? So if that's the case, isn't he going to be in large amounts of shit if it's true that he agreed to give MJ Diprivan for sleep that day in Murray's office? A dentist would not be covered to give such a medication if it wasn't related to dentistry and I would imagine that would be a huge demonstration of ethical misconduct that could cause him (if he admits it on the stand) to lose his dental license?
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Adams told investigators MJ and Murray came to HIS OFFICE to Adams' office in Vegas . He said never ever Murray watched him do a proceedure or sedate someone as he claimed, and MJ did not receive any propofol in that meeting.

Murray said it was on " Sunday afternoon" in his office . Only him , MJ and Adams, how convenient. He claimed Adams was happy to join the team , kept calling him asking him what to do , how to join , what papers .He is trying to say hey other doctor agreed and asked for 2 3 millions ...etc. have anyone noticed that he listed the 'equipment' Adams used to sedate MJ and they r EXACTLY the same equipment Murray was using in LA!!!!


He wanted to cast doubt on Adams' credibility because he knew the info Adams had against him would be very incriminating.
 
I always found the weaning off story a bit odd, as the very time murray tried it was when the TII rehearsals moved into a higher gear at the staples and they were doing proper run-throughs. Mj would have needed to be knocked out every night to a lesser extent for the earlier stages of the TII preparations as it was less strenuous. But maybe the key factor in all this is the 19th june 'bad day' for mj, resulting in that confrontation at mj's house on the 20th about mj's health and the frank deleo voice mail asking for a blood test. Murray realised that something had to change in what he had been doing night after night?
 
Just got home. Had to stop listening to the interview to get some work done. AAAHH!! But as I'm typing this Dr. Adams' attorney is on HLN saying they will sue. They heard the tape and David is hopping mad. Calls Murray a liar. Only met Murray once and gave his price of how much he was willing to work for 4. Murray thought the price was too high and said they could get a 2nd doctor for the tour for cheaper money. It was quite an informative segment. There was even word that Murray MAY have been dealing with propofol as far back as 2007. It's getting ugly and out of hand.

I need to catch up. There's a few things that stood out for me on the tape...things that were said and things that went unsaid that Murray's team has changed their stories on.

What a LIAR, tho. The jury had to be listening to that and thinking WTF, especially considering what's already come out in court with the timeline.
 
Yes Dr. Adams attorney was on HLN he wants to sue Murray. This is the first time Adams heard the tape cause the police didn't want to let him hear it before. He said Murray is lying he only met Murray once and asked for 1.3 milliion and Murray said I can find someone for 6,000. Adams says if he would have been hired there would have been no need for Murray cause he would have put MJ in detox and help him with his sleep. Att. said Adams never said MJ loves and does well on Propofol. That Murray was greedy he hired himself as the doctor never wanted someone else. He said Murray was looking for other docs to give MJ Propofol since 07 and that he isn't being truthful about Mj and Propofol. I hope someone taped this cause I tried my best to say what I heard!
 
There are so many inconsistencies from this interview it is unfathomable. I relayed it all back on twitter as it happened and it was truly incredible. So much doesn't add up, to the extent I am not sure I could list it all here.

What I am hoping someone can clarify for me though is this - did Murray say that he allowed Dr Adams to use his office on a Sunday to administer propofol to Michael so he could sleep for 5 - 6 hours? I know Murray said he left for a few hours and came back at 7.00pm, at which point he asked Michael how he felt after sleep and he reportedly said "wonderful" (which is total baloney of itself, given how people feel after anaesthesia). I just can't recall if he said it was Adams who used his office or whether he used the office himself.
 
I always found the weaning off story a bit odd, as the very time murray tried it was when the TII rehearsals moved into a higher gear at the staples and they were doing proper run-throughs. Mj would have needed to be knocked out every night to a lesser extent for the earlier stages of the TII preparations as it was less strenuous. But maybe the key factor in all this is the 19th june 'bad day' for mj, resulting in that confrontation at mj's house on the 20th about mj's health and the frank deleo voice mail asking for a blood test. Murray realised that something had to change in what he had been doing night after night?​
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do you know that he bought BOXES of lorazepam , midazolam and FLUMAZENIL vials at the end of APRIL ?

The cardiologist testified the slurred voice could not have been caused by propofol, that what he would sound under LORAZEPAM .

Yes something changed in the days MJ looked great, he probably stopped giving him benzos because propofol sure would not have affected his mental or physical state after hours of administration.
 
Adams denied given Mj propofol in Murray presents. But he did meet Murray in his murray office( i think) because Mj wanted adams on the team. And they talk about money and that's all that happens he said.
 
roomdownstairs said:
There are so many inconsistencies from this interview it is unfathomable. I relayed it all back on twitter as it happened and it was truly incredible. So much doesn't add up, to the extent I am not sure I could list it all here. What I am hoping someone can clarify for me though is this - did Murray say that he allowed Dr Adams to use his office on a Sunday to administer propofol to Michael so he could sleep for 5 - 6 hours? I know Murray said he left for a few hours and came back at 7.00pm, at which point he asked Michael how he felt after sleep and he reportedly said "wonderful" (which is total baloney of itself, given how people feel after anaesthesia). I just can't recall if he said it was Adams who used his office or whether he used the office himself.
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yes u are correct
 
Perhaps we should star a diff thread and list all murrays lies from the interview
 
Yes Dr. Adams attorney was on HLN he wants to sue Murray. This is the first time Adams heard the tape cause the police didn't want to let him hear it before. He said Murray is lying he only met Murray once and asked for 1.3 milliion and Murray said I can find someone for 6,000. Adams says if he would have been hired there would have been no need for Murray cause he would have put MJ in detox and help him with his sleep. Att. said Adams never said MJ loves and does well on Propofol. That Murray was greedy he hired himself as the doctor never wanted someone else. He said Murray was looking for other docs to give MJ Propofol since 07 and that he isn't being truthful about Mj and Propofol. I hope someone taped this cause I tried my best to say what I heard!​
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Adams sedated 6000+ patients using propofol and none died under his care. If he was hired MJ would have still being alive. I always believed MJ wanted two doctors and it was greedy Murray who convinced him he only needed him.
 
by the way Murray never said I watched him for 10 minutes and left came back at 11 and found him breathless. So they did not really change the timeline, the one who wrote the search warrant was not accurate.

Another point he said I pushed propofol using a syringe. Later explained further infused over three to four minutes because the dose was "really small" .
 
Yeah he did. he said he infused around 10.50 after prepping around 10.40 watched for abit then went to he toliet
 
What I find funny is this. In Murray's interview he said Michael didn't care for lorazepam because it causes dependence, which is why he wanted propofol. Now, the defense is trying to say that Michael just ate 8 pills without any reserves, really? How can anyone believe Murray only gave 4mg of anything when he was so untruthful in that interview.

Lets list the lies:

-Didn't say crap about the phone calls. According to Murray, he watched Michael the entire time.

-Besides being skinny, Michael was in good shape. Now, he was an addict he didn't know about it.

-Knew about other doctors. Now, thought he was Michael's only doctor and knew nothing about what the others were given him.

-Didn't sign up to give drugs, but bought loads of it as early as April, when he was only supposedly working for Michael for 2 months.

-Knew nearly the exact time of each drug given with a watch. He claimed to one doctor that he had no sense of time because he had no watch.

-Left the room for two minutes, now it's more like 45.

-He peed directly in a jug, so why the condom catheter if Michael was wake and could pee on his own will?

-Went to empty a jug of pee, jug was a chair with the pee still there.

-Claim that he only noticed something was wrong because Michael's chest wasn't moving. He also had a slight pulse. Now, he died instantly with his eyes opened.

-Did CPR on the bed because he couldn't lift Michael, but could lift his legs. Could had lowered him legs first and then his torso without help.

-Claim the bodyguards weren't allow inside at all and had to use the gas station to use the restroom. They just wasn't allow upstairs without permission.

-Claim to have called for help and ran up stairs right away. Several witnesses said he stood by the stairs and talked to Prince for several minutes.

-Claim he told the bodyguard to call 911 right away. No mention of stuffy drugs in a bag.

-He once again said he found a pulse and was still warm. Now, Michael was dead and beyond saving and was cool to the touch.

-Did CPR all the way to the ambulance. He actually stood upstairs stuffy things in garbage bags.


Is there anything I miss, please add.
 
Didn't get to hear all of the police interview (had to go out. Unavoidable). But now, I see there is a transcript, so, good.

Right. So MANY lies. I had to leave just at the point where he told police an elaborate story about "no phones working, no way to call 911." INCREDIBLE. Now I see why the prosecution put on all those people who had talked to Murray, on the PHONE, just that day!

I thought a person had to have some sort of minimal level of intelligence to get into, and out of, medical school? How is it even POSSIBLE that he didn't know police could retrieve phone records? There were many lies, but that one was so outrageous, that it defies the imagination. Thing is, once a person tells one deliberate lie and is caught on it, anything they say is suspect/cannot be believed. Amazing. . . . how stupid that man is.
 
I'm also reading the transcript, since the interview was partly unintelligible and difficult to listen to.

The nerve on Murray! I can't even begin to comment on the things Chernoff instructed him to say.
 
lemon662 said:
But you know what? How would it really be a big deal if, previous to then, he had occasionally smoked pot? It wouldn't be the end of the world. Sometimes people smoke it help them relax and sleep. I surely wouldn't think any less of him IF he did smoke it occasionally, lots of people do, I don't see it as a big deal or any negative reflection on him as a person, IMO. And I say this as someone who doesn't do drugs at all.
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THC was not detected in his urine so that doesn't change anything. The family should have thrown it dow the toilet and flushed it.

Someom evil person could have planted demerol and you knows what in that house but that didn't happen.
 
Soundmind said:
Adams sedated 6000+ patients using propofol and none died under his care. If he was hired MJ would have still being alive. I always believed MJ wanted two doctors and it was greedy Murray who convinced him he only needed him.
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Didn't that witness Katie Jorry tell Murray claimed for another one doctor to care Michael in London if he (Murray) won't be around or get some rest?
 
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