Original Pic Used To Fake MJ Ambulance Pic

[Rockin.]

I remebered also according to hoax theory that MJHD started before pronouncement Michael's death. MJHD I don't know if I'm right. Does anybody here heared this either?
MJHD began in Australia. Is it correct?

Well someone had a screen capture of google saying that site was 'cached' (whatever that means) on a date some days before MJ died. Someone gave a reason why that could have happened but I can't remember it.. I'm not a computer expert.

 

[Birchey]

STOP BEING IDIOTS THE PICTURE IS NOT FAKE!!!! The First Blurred One Is Fake! Gosh people jump on any idea without any knowledge at all!

 

[daisy]

Sorry, the red car was there, it belonged to a fan who chased the ambulance afterwards

OK thanks for the info.

So... you have the following options:

1) He's really gone.

2) He faked his death for a reason only known to him and a few others and, if ever discovered, he will go to jail. And if he wants to avoid jail he will have to remain "dead" for the record...meaning he won't be ever coming back to us as the MJ we know and love or in any way that may cause him to be discovered. Translation: Same as being "dead".

3) He faked his death with the help of the authorities (with or without his family's knowledge) and is in the WP program for life or until the reason he had to go into the program goes away. Who knows how long that's going to be or if that will ever happen? Again, I don't know what the statistics are for ppl who go into the program and then come out and re-enter their lives as it once was. Translation: Same as being "dead".

4) He's been dragged off/kidnapped against his will and being held somewhere he won't be found; may not even know who the hell he is anymore. In this case, someone else's body had to have been put in his place at the house...which then begs the question of WHOSE dead body was really autopsied if a genuine autopsy was done. And WHOSE body did LaToya identify as her brother if it really wasn't him? Either she was in on this or she wasn't. If she wasn't, then WHO could have looked so much like Michael that he could have fooled his sister, his manager and children?

Well, the FIFTH option that has been discussed here that this was a cover up for murder. and that the real photo would not be nice cause revealing what Michael could have suffered just before being murdered

I remebered also according to hoax theory that MJHD started before pronouncement Michael's death. MJHD I don't know if I'm right. Does anybody here heared this either?
MJHD began in Australia. Is it correct?

I think so - I think a screenshot was made from the wepbage.
Same about the message from May or early June saying "Michael Jackson will die on June 25th".

 

[triniti]

I think so - I think a screenshot was made from the wepbage.
Same about the message from May or early June saying "Michael Jackson will die on June 25th".

I remebered that someone explained it was the question of time zone.
It is more reasonable. Thank you.

 

[Samtkaninchen]

STOP BEING IDIOTS THE PICTURE IS NOT FAKE!!!! The First Blurred One Is Fake! Gosh people jump on any idea without any knowledge at all!

Not sure which one is fake and if one is real at all. All I see is, as some others already mentioned, a very different angle of a head - to whom it ever may belong - in the first blurred picture compared to the well known one.

 

[MJJ7777]

Not sure which one is fake and if one is real at all. All I see is, as some others already mentioned, a very different angle of a head - to whom it ever may belong - in the first blurred picture compared to the well known one.

OMG, that looks like MJ's face turned to the side with no hair compared to the well known ambulance photo.

Head turned to the side with the CPR thing in the wrong direction since his mouth is on the other side.And the white thing that is supposed to be on his ear isn't, its somewhere else.
That makes no sense to me.


I hope no one's trying to mess with us.

 

[Cris123]

OMG, that looks like MJ's face turned to the side with no hair compared to the well known ambulance photo.

Head turned to the side with the CPR thing in the wrong direction since his mouth is on the other side.
That makes no sense to me.

I hope no one's trying to mess with us.

This is too crazy!! Omg, I want some resolution ( Yeah, I guess it could be it, the pap retouched the photo so it will be more respectful to Michael. This could be the simple answer

 

[daisy]

Not sure which one is fake and if one is real at all. All I see is, as some others already mentioned, a very different angle of a head - to whom it ever may belong - in the first blurred picture compared to the well known one.

God, after all of that I have a guaranteed night of repeated nightmares. If I manage to fall asleep in the first place.

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

STOP BEING IDIOTS THE PICTURE IS NOT FAKE!!!! The First Blurred One Is Fake! Gosh people jump on any idea without any knowledge at all!

First of all, dont call members names, be more mature than that.

2nd, explain why the MSG pic is a perfect match?

 

[Birchey]

First of all, dont call members names, be more mature than that.

2nd, explain why the MSG pic is a perfect match?

First of all, I am using idiot in the folowing term: a foolish or senseless person

Because alot of people are not making sense, and for you're info the MSG does not fit! and the first photo is clearly photoshopped using different parets of the image to conceal michaels face

 

[Matt_MJ]

First of all, I am using idiot in the folowing term: a foolish or senseless person

Because alot of people are not making sense, and for you're info the MSG does not fit! and the first photo is clearly photoshopped using different parets of the image to conceal michaels face

Can you explain why MJ has the same whispy triangle of hair at the end of his sideburns in each picture?

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

I have no idea how everyone suddenly got onto the hoax theory, the only point I was trying to make is that the paps are liars and made up a fake pic to make money. Its always about money. I think the paps really wanted to get that pic of MJ in the ambulance but it probably didnt turn out, so they faked it.

It's not that hard to fake a pic in Hollywood is it now.

 

[Birchey]

I have no idea how everyone suddenly got onto the hoax theory, the only point I was trying to make is that the paps are liars and made up a fake pic to make money. Its always about money. I think the paps really wanted to get that pic of MJ in the ambulance but it probably didnt turn out, so they faked it.

It's not that hard to fake a pic in Hollywood is it now.

Its not hard to fake a pic but selling a fake pic of such importance and value is dead on impossible! You don't think entertainment tonight didn't analyse the pics they have in great detail, looking at the file info, where its a complete pic as the pixels on each picture would be different and you can tell a mile off a cut and paste job as the pixels just would not match!

I just don't like all this speculation being thrown in the mix, cuz some people don't have the ability or programs to analyse these pics and its cheating people to an extent, the first pic is without a doubt fake, there are more than one pic of michael in the ambulance and neither match the angle of the MSG pic, you also think they would use a publicised well known pick of Michael to fake it?

 

[Autumn II]

STOP BEING IDIOTS THE PICTURE IS NOT FAKE!!!! The First Blurred One Is Fake! Gosh people jump on any idea without any knowledge at all!

It is possible to express an opinion without being disrespectful about it. Calling anyone an "idiot" is simply not very nice.

 

[MJJ7777]

So then the picture isn't blurred...its actually an image?

I'm still thinking they are both fake, for now.

 

[jemini515]

I just don't like all this speculation being thrown in the mix, cuz some people don't have the ability or programs to analyse these pics and its cheating people to an extent, the first pic is without a doubt fake, there are more than one pic of michael in the ambulance and neither match the angle of the MSG pic, you also think they would use a publicised well known pick of Michael to fake it?

I would be curious to look at the ambulance photo in the highest resolution possible. Can anyone direct me to this?

 

[Birchey]

It is possible to express an opinion without being disrespectful about it. Calling anyone an "idiot" is simply not very nice.

I have worded myself wrong, I apologise for the bluntness, idiotic would have been the better term as I think some people are jumping on anything and everything here but as I said not everyoe has the programs and knowledge to analyse this stuff and when you get the people who are claming they can saying its all a fake then it gets just plain wrong, this whole thread is a farce and I will prove that in about 2 minutes

 

[Asedora]

They weren't fans they were paparazzi who were actually kind of 'close' to Michael, at least closer than other paparazzi. Followed him everywhere over the last few years. And said he was there that day and 'the other' day... whatever 'the other' day was.

Ben Everstad. This guy -

No they called themselves fans. It doesn't mean that they are fans. Watch the video on the first page. It is crazy. Everything is for cash. Something is terribly wrong with this world.

 

[daisy]

Its not hard to fake a pic but selling a fake pic of such importance and value is dead on impossible! You don't think entertainment tonight didn't analyse the pics they have in great detail , looking at the file info, where its a complete pic as the pixels on each picture would be different and you can tell a mile off a cut and paste job as the pixels just would not match!

you are right. there are rules about how to do it.
Including the right time set in the photographers' camera.
So why does Exif show 12:08 as the time of taking the photo?

I re-post it here


it is the exif of THIS photo
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75724/

btw I am not a hoaxer

 

[Samtkaninchen]

I have no idea how everyone suddenly got onto the hoax theory, the only point I was trying to make is that the paps are liars and made up a fake pic to make money. Its always about money. I think the paps really wanted to get that pic of MJ in the ambulance but it probably didnt turn out, so they faked it.

It's not that hard to fake a pic in Hollywood is it now.

To me this is the likeliest reason for this - right now. "You would do anything for money" ... :no:
I just don't know. Who knows what else will come to the surface ...

 

[Birchey]

Lets start with the comparison picture. You can see the ears are not in the right place for a start, the distance between the sideburn and eyes is different, also you see the forehead exted further back, plus you can see the head is at a slightly different angle

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

First of all, I am using idiot in the folowing term: a foolish or senseless person

Because alot of people are not making sense, and for you're info the MSG does not fit! and the first photo is clearly photoshopped using different parets of the image to conceal michaels face

How can you say it doesnt fit. Maybe you need to lean closer to the monitor. A fan made a rough version of it in 1 min and it fit exactly. I guess the media made you a foolish or senseless person, or as you call them, idiots!

 

[Birchey]

you are right. there are rules about how to do it.
Including the right time set in the photographers' camera.
So why does Exif show 12:08 as the time of taking the photo?

I re-post it here
(in a while)

it is the exif of THIS photo
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75724/

btw I am not a hoaxer

That image is irrelevant in any stance as it has been cropped, cleaned up and also has a logo on it so its not a source picture, is a low res edited file

 

[jemini515]

I have no idea how everyone suddenly got onto the hoax theory, the only point I was trying to make is that the paps are liars and made up a fake pic to make money. Its always about money. I think the paps really wanted to get that pic of MJ in the ambulance but it probably didnt turn out, so they faked it.

It's not that hard to fake a pic in Hollywood is it now.

Big thanks to you Dangerous Incorporated for all your recent contributions. I love following what you have to say.

There are so many possibilities that fit into all the different "theories"
Accidental Death: paparazzi faked a photo for the money, perhaps because they couldn't get a decent shot
Murder Theory: this photo was released to cover up what really happened to MJ, possibly injuring his face OR to show him recently deceased rather than showing signs of discoloration from being dead for many hours
Hoax theory: this photo was staged by MJ and released to the world as "proof" he was gone; backup: photographer Ben's "slip-up" that he was there "that day and the other day--"

Very confusing... but it's really helpful to hear everyone's contributions!

 

[brunomj]

i guess we all have been fooled about this, i really believed in this!!!!!! some people are really sick!!!!!!

 

[MJJ7777]

you are right. there are rules about how to do it.
Including the right time set in the photographers' camera.
So why does Exif show 12:08 as the time of taking the photo?

I re-post it here
(in a while)

it is the exif of THIS photo
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75724/

btw I am not a hoaxer

What do you mean 12:08 and the term exif?

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Lets start with the comparison picture. You can see the ears are not in the right place for a start, the distance between the sideburn and eyes is different, also you see the forehead exted further back, plus you can see the head is at a slightly different angle

Your using the fan made image which isnt final. He did this in 1 min. How about using the original images for your comparison? This fan did eventually make it look like the image sold to ET. His was making a quick illustration that facial expressions are the same and fit. Some people look to far into things. I find it strange that people think that the image of MJ on stage just happens to look like how MJ would look when dead.:doh:

 

[Birchey]

How can you say it doesnt fit. Maybe you need to lean closer to the monitor. A fan made a rough version of it in 1 min and it fit exactly. I guess the media made you a foolish or senseless person, or as you call them, idiots!

Take a look again and tell me if it fits exactly, like I said the ear if off (can I also mention that in the ambulance pic we see the slightly different shaped ear either like the one the papers wrote about or the fact that it has a CLIP on it) and theres more

 

[jemini515]

Earlier I asked a question in this thread but didn't get a response.... just curious if anyone knows if any Jackson family member has spoken out about this ambulance photo? If it were real, wouldn't someone come forward and say something to the effect of 'How disgusting that the paparazzi photographed him dead/dying?' I have not read any statements along those lines.... thanks!

 

[MJJ7777]

Earlier I asked a question in this thread but didn't get a response.... just curious if anyone knows if any Jackson family member has spoken out about this ambulance photo? If it were real, wouldn't someone come forward and say something to the effect of 'How disgusting that the paparazzi photographed him dead/dying?' I have not read any statements along those lines.... thanks!

As of now, No.