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Rebbie Jackson to be on "The View" on January 27

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@ stacyj even though MJ didn't die from pills, he still died from a mix of benzos and propofol so it still is gonna come up.
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whose words are these? U r implying he died as an addicts, I can dig up all ur posts and in almost every second post ur doing exactly that. Since the day you came into this section u were openly implying Michael was an addict. So do not backtrack now. Also ur calling me childish? Re-read ur own post and see how childish it is. I call you out for what ur doing I will continue to call u out on ur obvious bs, u think think we're too dumb to see ur subtle remarks, insinuations but we are not. At least I know I'm not.
 
chanel05 said:
Honestly I don't think Diana Ross, Chris Tucker or Macaulay culkin were close or even talked or spoken to MJ the last few few years of his life.
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When they did talk to him or were friends with him they didn't talk to the media about him, it was very very few times, and they would defend him, Diana even called out on some reporter once on his show for badmouthing him. Her son, Evan Ross, actually said Michael gave him advice often and spoke to him even a few weeks before his passing, so he was in touch somehow..
 
Alma said:
?.. If they have other opinions of him, they keep them to themselves, in the context of Jackson being furiously criticized, scrutinized and attacked and blamed by many anyway, how much more fuel to the fire to add? Especially in this crucial aspect of the trial eve.... It's something awfully, awfully serious. Now, Rebbie didn't seem to blame his brother for his death, but Murray, but the alleged drug interventions he vaguely mentioned overshadowed a lot from the interview, that's like a light flickering bulb for the tabloid headlines, not to mention Murray's defense, who're going for the druggie route. If they - in this case, Rebbie - had been more specific about the timeline of these alleged interventions, it would've still been disrepectful to say, but at least it would've been clear on that he wasn't addicted, not in denial in his latest years - that horrid graphic autopsy proves it, although some couldn't go through it, but based on the available summaries, they know. In fact, he seemed to have been very much pressured by some of them to do a reunion tour, Janet herself confirming that she would love to open for them, but that there's 'one who's on the fence', so obviously, one would think he would have been fit for a tour if there were pressures in the first place. If he said 'no' often to them, that he doesn't want to tour with them, was not because he didn't love them, but because he wanted their companionship as blood-related person, not one linked by contracts, he had enough of that in his 25-year career of being in the Jackson 5/Jacksons....... If he said 'no' to them, does that mean he was in denial?... If one is truly concerned for someone and their health, they would not be pressuring that someone to do reunion tours, but, say, not go on tours altogether...... They may have been genuinely concerned at times, too, for him, but they should mention to the media, if they still talk to them, that he had a lot of hell to deal with all his life, so it's only normal and human to take something for the pains. This time, he couldn't sleep at all. Do some of them ever mention his insomnia? ...




At the hands of his own doctor, yes. It's not like he was getting himself 'fixed', I wont imply that you meant it otherwise, but added that to what you said be more clear.
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I think you posted twice but you added more to this one... I unquoted the the stuff you posted previously. I basically agree with what is said here though. Im just speculating here but... After they tried to intervene if he says he doesn't have a problem and there is no proof then what do you do??? I think after MJ died then they felt that their suspicions were true.

I read Rowe's book and from what he said, Janet was pushing to tour because hrs was cancelled and the band had cleared their schedule and she didn't want them losing money. The brothers were on board and MJ didn't say no(at first) he said give him like 4or6 months. But of course it never happened. I still feel that what happened during the victory tour was bs. At the end of the day they are all brothers and they should have been able to sort things out themselves. Then after that go clear it with your legal reps not the other way around. I feel like one of their problems was that they let people come in between them. Also the brothers should have tried to do their own thing instead of waiting on MJ. I think they lacked confidence and didn't want to scale back and rescale. Also if he dint want to tour then just respect that and move on. Judging from the show, the main one that wanted to tour was jermaine after that Tito. Marlon and Jackie didn't seem to care too much
 
chanel05 said:
Also the brothers should have tried to do their own thing instead of waiting on MJ. I think they lacked confidence and didn't want to scale back and rescale. Also if he dint want to tour then just respect that and move on. Judging from the show, the main one that wanted to tour was jermaine after that Tito. Marlon and Jackie didn't seem to care too much
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That's true.
 
chanel05 said:
The only thing the family has said about MJ that puts him in a bad light is the interventions. They haven't said anything else bad but they have done some questionable things. N it's not even all the family, only a few talk. From what I heard about MJ lupus is that is was the non-life threatening form. So i doubt he had to take all the medicine that would be required for the life threatening form, and it was in remission (per dr.klein). He had to take pills for other illness and aches and pained that happened though.
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the only thing? Don't minimize the impact. Also they have painted him as having an addictive personality to surgery and drugs so someone who is likely to use doctors to aid in his addiction. If they are referring to the past as some say why not clarify that. If they are not saying he was an addict but was developing an issue why not clarify that. I'm sure if someone called Rebbie daughter the wrong diagnosis she would clarify. Specific words used matter and they should know that especially as someone said their comments make headlines ours don't Michael certainly isn't here to clarify and more than the public think of how that affects his children.
 
The family doesn't care at all..

To be honest I don't think they even loved MJ, they just loved what he could do for them
 
Good point Big Apple. They need to focus on the fact that Murray still has his license in two states and is still practicing. instead they go wherever they are led in interviews. I like your words. They need to hijack the interview instead they are to busy wanting to be liked and to promote their projects. I do think its interesting Rebbie keeps saying she wants the truth. She should just admit she doesn't know. I. Think she is doing better if she is saying none of it matters except what Murray did so I am a little encouraged
 
yaazgurl said:
the only thing? Don't minimize the impact. Also they have painted him as having an addictive personality to surgery and drugs so someone who is likely to use doctors to aid in his addiction. If they are referring to the past as some say why not clarify that. If they are not saying he was an addict but was developing an issue why not clarify that. I'm sure if someone called Rebbie daughter the wrong diagnosis she would clarify. Specific words used matter and they should know that especially as someone said their comments make headlines ours don't Michael certainly isn't here to clarify and more than the public think of how that affects his children.
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I agree. The family should have been clarifying these things from the very start. To me, even if they thought that Michael was having issues they should not have said so, especially when Murray's trial is not far off. Murray is counting on that "druggie" angle to save his butt. The family's talk of "intervention" and "in denial" for a long time now has been showing signs that it could backfire. I hope that it does not.
 
StacyJ said:
The family doesn't care at all..

To be honest I don't think they even loved MJ, they just loved what he could do for them
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I don't know whether they loved him or not, but I do believe they were VERY interested in what he could do for them. Not just financially, but also career wise.

Let me also add, when the contents of the Will were first read, aside from Joe Jackson not being included (I expected that - LOL). I was however, surprised that no other family memeber was mentioned as either a beneficiary or an executor. The Diana Ross thing also threw me for a loop.

These many months later, I have a "belief" as to why that came to be and the family's BEHAVIOUR is what leads me to that belief.

I honestly wonder if the family had been included in Michael's will, would we be hearing some of the stuff we have heard from them over the last several months.
 
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Nope would not have heard a word if they were in the will.. He would've been the best loving brother ever. The fact that the family has not said one word about how kind, loving, helpful and considerate MJ was is very hurtful. Mike gave so much of himself for over 40 years and his own damn family hasn't shown one ounce of gratitude or appreciation. If it wasn't for MJ they would all still be in Gary Indiana
 
yaazgurl said:
Good point Big Apple. They need to focus on the fact that Murray still has his license in two states and is still practicing. instead they go wherever they are led in interviews. I like your words. They need to hijack the interview instead they are to busy wanting to be liked and to promote their projects. I do think its interesting Rebbie keeps saying she wants the truth. She should just admit she doesn't know. I. Think she is doing better if she is saying none of it matters except what Murray did so I am a little encouraged
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Wouldn't it have been great if after Rebbie's interview on The View, we would have gotten headlines that "The Jackson Family Will Be Making An Issue With The Medical Boards Of Both Las Vegas and Texas At To Why Conrad Murray Is Still Allowed To Practice."

Rebbie had the opportunity to open that door, but she chose to reopen the "intervention" door instead. I just don't understand the logic, in having that type of discussion at this time, OR EVER.

I also think it's funny, that Rebbie was there to promote "whatever" but, like always, the discussion is dominated by ALL things related to Michael and Michael's 3 children. In my opinion, that's the ONLY reason any of these invitations are extended in the first place.
 
why was Rebbie even on there? what exactly was the purpose?
 
Alma said:
When they did talk to him or were friends with him they didn't talk to the media about him, it was very very few times, and they would defend him, Diana even called out on some reporter once on his show for badmouthing him. Her son, Evan Ross, actually said Michael gave him advice often and spoke to him even a few weeks before his passing, so he was in touch somehow..
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Yea that's true...

yaazgurl said:
the only thing? Don't minimize the impact. Also they have painted him as having an addictive personality to surgery and drugs so someone who is likely to use doctors to aid in his addiction. If they are referring to the past as some say why not clarify that. If they are not saying he was an addict but was developing an issue why not clarify that. I'm sure if someone called Rebbie daughter the wrong diagnosis she would clarify. Specific words used matter and they should know that especially as someone said their comments make headlines ours don't Michael certainly isn't here to clarify and more than the public think of how that affects his children.
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Maybe youre getting tmz confused with the family. Katherine said that she felt MJ was addicted to plastic surgery... Not anyone else. None of his family said anything about an addictive personality to surgery(save Katherine but she said nothing about an addictive personality) and drugs and was using doctors to aid his addiction. Now if you feel thats what they were saying or meant, then fine..... but don't say they said that because that's not true. N where did I try to minimize the impact of something?!?! Stop trying to make your insinuations what I am saying or meant.


To All:
I lurked here a long time before I joined and then some months before I posted. I joined because this place is very informative and you cant find that most places. Then I ventured onto this board. Overtime I noticed that threads would increasingly become Jackson family bash threads. I never had the intention to come and be a Jackson family supporter.. But I don't like to see people bashed and hated for no reason sometimes. I understand everybody isn't gonna agree and that's fine.... But when I start posting a different view point I was called all kinds of names... LIKE REALLY?!?! If someone doesn't agree with you then don't attack them because that won't help, they will just be defensive

Big Apple2 said:
I don't know whether they loved him or not, but I do believe they were VERY interested in what he could do for them. Not just financially, but also career wise.

Let me also add, when the contents of the Will were first read, aside from Joe Jackson not being included (I expected that - LOL). I was however, surprised that no other family memeber was mentioned as either a beneficiary or an executor. The Diana Ross thing also threw me for a loop.

This many months later, I have a "belief" as to why that came to be and the family's BEHAVIOUR is what leads me to that belief.

I honestly wonder if the family had been included in Michael's will, would we be hearing some of the stuff we have heard from them over the last several months.
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StacyJ said:
why was Rebbie even on there? what exactly was the purpose?
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She was there to talk about Michael and his 3 children, anything else was just a GUISE to get her there. LOL!

"Of course you can come on and discuss your latest project, Rebbie." But once she get's into that Hot Seat, it's all about MICHAEL. So Typical!
 
twinklEE said:
ok but dont act surprsised when i dig up all ur posts
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Uuuuuuuuhhhhhh..... I really don't care
First of all I don't see why someone would have time to do that anyway. I shouldn't be that important to you or anyone else on here here matter. So what you're gonna try to "expose me"????? Seriously???? What you're gonna get some kind of prize or something??? Second... As I said earlier, if you cannot handle another persons viewpoint or opinion then stay off a public message board. We are suppose to adults here... We should be able to have civil discourse about what we believe and don't believe or agree and don't agree with... Lastly, HAVE FUN ;)
 
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Sharon B. Sidney;3216436 said:
I don't know if you all realize it or not but talk concerning Michael, his family concerns and interventions have been going on for a very long time now even back to when Ramone Baine was working with him and possibly before that. Are you guys not aware, have people forgotten or is it simpler to say since it's inconvenient now they shouldn't say it so in essence his family is wrong and are throwing him under the bus?
I'm not going to get in discussions on what is right and what is wrong but years ago when some fans were defending Ramone Baine and other working with him, some were defending the family etc. and I asked people to not place judgments and to look for truth. I'm asking that again... We need to be mindful that we don't know everything and believe you me I am trying as I am sure many of you are with my heart of hearts and greatest intentions to figure many things out...

Xthunderx2 You said

"Michael NEVER bashed any of them in public...on the contrary he did the opposite...he always spoke highly of his siblings..or he said nothing at all. Why do they wait until Michael is not here anymore to defend himself.?? "

My question is do you think to disrespect Michael's family whom he loved and showed respect to is disrespecting Michael? He is not around to defend them either or perhaps rather remind and encourage us to show forgiveness and acceptance even as he has done.
When people say his family is wrong for calling him an addict I am not disputing that as wrong nor upholding it to be right, perhaps it was a bad choice of words. Perhaps we already have so many bad connotations in our minds when we hear the word addict we instantly think of people shooting up heroine or sniffing coke like in the movies and presume this is what the family is saying about him. I am aware that millions of Americans have faced some degree of "addiction" to prescription medications and we know Michael was being prescribed medicine for whatever medical conditions he faced. Do you know that often times a doctor will make the determination that getting a person through the pain they are experiencing or will be experiencing is more important than the likely addiction they would or could develop from pain medication. Sometimes even medicines that have harmful side effects are considered necessary because the possible benefits outweigh the possible harm.

Michael suffered from medical conditions he faced. Can we agree on that? Some people want to know well, what drugs/medications were he taking and the answer to every question that pops into ones mind. Granted, I'd love it if I could have every answer my mind could fathom - no, I'm lying I wouldn't... I would hate to have every answer to every question my mind could fathom because sometimes I wonder how peoples hearts can be so decrepit and lacking in love and compassion and how people can do such vile things and to be honest I never want to know the answer to such things... Sorry I got off topic but what I was trying to say is that everyone will never be satisfied with everything another person does. It’s just not feasible. What is feasible is love and acceptance and when love falls short grace and mercy leaves plenty of room for short comings. There is a scripture that tells us the same manner of judgment we use against men. God will use against us... Are we prepared for that? Only God knows the hearts and intentions of men unless He reveals that to us all we can do is presume and many of the presumptions here seem unfair and outright cruel.

Xthunderx2 you also said it's "posts like mine give that give the Jackson's permission to talk the way they do about Michael" but my post is here for the purpose of encouraging us all, myself included to exhibit compassion reason and love. That's what we all know Michael would want as you illustrated earlier in your statement that he never bashed his family.
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I love how you and everyone here write showing so much love for Michael but please let's all try to be cautious in our efforts of showing respect as well to him by extending that to his family. I'm not asking anyone to agree or disagree but only to be respectful...

Love you and God bless you!!!
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for the first bolded part..I am not disrespecting Michael's family as much a THEY are disrespecting Michael's legacy and his children's memory of their father. If Michael was still here..they would never on a million years be going on all these talk shows saying.."Oh yes we had many interventions when it comes to Michael"....first of all because Michael would defend himself..and second because half of the one's running their mouths KNOW that Michael would of cut their asses off financially in a flat second. But now it seems like all of a sudden they feel pretty brave to be able to say what they want. If it is true...if there REALLY were interventions....then why dont they tell us when? Why dont they name Michael's drug of choice? They sure the hell can sit back and publically give a different version of the truth than what the autopsy report supports...so when you talk about forgiveness for the family and Michael would want me too and all that...no sorry...Michael would want me to do just what it is I am doing....and that is standing by him in HIS TIME OF NEED....and fighting for the right for his children to NOT walk around 10 years from now thinking...My dad Michael Jackson was an addict. HE should not EVER have to be remembered this way by his children.
 
twinklEE said:
yes he died from benzos's and propofol given to him by Murray, he wasn't sitting at home trying to get high, so be careful with your insinuations.
Again ur the queen/king of ignorance Chanel, the ignorance ur displaying almost matches those of ur beloved Jackson's keep it up and u might receive a thank you mail from them.
It was Oxbrain who brought up the addiction talk someone the JAckson's just L O V E. If Murray walks away they are the ones to be blamed.
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Good post. I think that if people find out more truthful facts about Michael, discussions here would not be so irresponsible.
 
You know what my problem is with this whole addict living in denial thing? So this brother that sister and this sister say he had a problem was in denial about it. You tried to help him but he was not having it. However you sat back and did nothing while your brother who was addicted to drugs according to you raised three kids on his own? Was there only parent Grace was not around that much we know that but according tho those three Michael was a drug addict and all addicts care about is there next fix so who took care of those kids? You mean to tell me Michael was an addict and none of you went to him and said look get your shit together or I will take those kids or went to court or your Mother and said look Michael has a problem I am worried for the kids he can't take care of himself or his kids. So here is my question again if Michael was such an addict and in denial about it who raised his kids those years? You can't be a great father and a drug addict
 
Justthefacts said:
You know what my problem is with this whole addict living in denial thing? So this brother that sister and this sister say he had a problem was in denial about it. You tried to help him but he was not having it. However you sat back and did nothing while your brother who was addicted to drugs according to you raised three kids on his own? Was there only parent Grace was not around that much we know that but according tho those three Michael was a drug addict and all addicts care about is there next fix so who took care of those kids? You mean to tell me Michael was an addict and none of you went to him and said look get your shit together or I will take those kids or went to court or your Mother and said look Michael has a problem I am worried for the kids he can't take care of himself or his kids. So here is my question again if Michael was such an addict and in denial about it who raised his kids those years? You can't be a great father and a drug addict
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Just to add a little something to your comments:

Their brother was in "denial," they "couldn't lead a horse to water," and there were "many, many interventions," YET they had no problem BEGGING this so-called drug addict to go on stage and be a part of the Jackson Family Reunion Concert.

That's the little FACT that always get's me. Do they think WE forgot about the BEGGING that was going on by certain family members?

It's not like the BEGGING was a secret, it was public knowledge and had been discussed by different family members. So much so, that at ONE point I thought it actually "might" happen.
 
Justthefacts said:
You know what my problem is with this whole addict living in denial thing? So this brother that sister and this sister say he had a problem was in denial about it. You tried to help him but he was not having it. However you sat back and did nothing while your brother who was addicted to drugs according to you raised three kids on his own? Was there only parent Grace was not around that much we know that but according tho those three Michael was a drug addict and all addicts care about is there next fix so who took care of those kids? You mean to tell me Michael was an addict and none of you went to him and said look get your shit together or I will take those kids or went to court or your Mother and said look Michael has a problem I am worried for the kids he can't take care of himself or his kids. So here is my question again if Michael was such an addict and in denial about it who raised his kids those years? You can't be a great father and a drug addict
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I totally agree... if what Randy, Janet,and Rebbie are saying then they left 3 kids in danger and didn't do a damn thing about it. I really wish someone would probe them more when they start rattling off about interventions and such
 
StacyJ said:
If what Randy, Janet,and Rebbie are saying
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I have another question: Why is ALWAYS those three?

It's like the three of them are in cahoots or something. There is DEFINITELY an agenda there, in my opinion. I'm just not clear as to what that agenda is.

Out of all of them, I "think" Jermaine has done the MOST talking (LOL), but I don't recall him ever bringing up the subject of the supposed interventions. Or was it something I missed?
 
Big Apple2 said:
I have another question: Why is ALWAYS those three?

It's like the three of them are in cahoots or something. There is DEFINITELY an agenda there, in my opinion. I'm just not clear as to what that agenda is.

Out of all of them, I "think" Jermaine has done the MOST talking (LOL), but I don't recall him ever bringing up the subject of the supposed interventions. Or was it something I missed?
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jermaine always made a point to state Michael was not a drug addict as opposed to these three
 
Big Apple2 said:
Just to add a little something to your comments:

Their brother was in "denial," they "couldn't lead a horse to water," and there were "many, many interventions," YET they had no problem BEGGING this so-called drug addict to go on stage and be a part of the Jackson Family Reunion Concert.
That's the little FACT that always get's me. Do they think WE forgot about the BEGGING that was going on by certain family members?
It's not like the BEGGING was a secret, it was public knowledge and had been discussed by different family members. So much so, that at ONE point I thought it actually "might" happen.
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Well... Obviously the tour was part of the rehabilitation program. Duh!
 
Memefan said:
Well... Obviously the tour was part of the rehabilitation program. Duh!
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LOL.... I guess that's why Leonard Rowe was brought in the picture. Was Leonard supposed to be the drug therapist helping with the intervention?
 
Big Apple2 said:
I have another question: Why is ALWAYS those three?

It's like the three of them are in cahoots or something. There is DEFINITELY an agenda there, in my opinion. I'm just not clear as to what that agenda is.

Out of all of them, I "think" Jermaine has done the MOST talking (LOL), but I don't recall him ever bringing up the subject of the supposed interventions. Or was it something I missed?
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I think Randy was the catalyst for the story and Janet believes everything he says. I also think Janet had/has some jealousy/resentment issues with Michael. Remember before his death, her own career was falling apart. Rebbie. Has seemed to have issues with Michael long before he died. I don't know what it is with her but she's always seemed overly critical of him. I do think she loved him but like him I don't know.
 
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