Rebbie Jackson to be on "The View" on January 27

[MJFan07]

Notice how Rebbie moved her hand towards her face when she responded to the intervention question. We learned in Social Psychology class that is a sign that someone is lying. Obviously, I can't say for sure, but her body language when she responded to that question indicated she may not have been 100% honest.

In general, I do like the Jackson family. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that when they refer to interventions they are being honest. It is possible that they had concerns and raised them with MJ, even if they didn't know if the stories were true or not. I don't see my siblings often but I love them dearly and if I had been hearing stories about alleged drug use, I would ask them out of concern and try to ensure if needed that they got help. So, just b/c they intervened it doesn't necessarily mean they thought he was a drug addict, just that they were concerned that he may have been. With them not spending a lot of time with him, they wouldn't know w/o asking. And them not spending a lot of time with him has nothing to do with how much they loved him. Again, I love my siblings even though I don't see them much.

I do have to give Rebbie credit for saying that it's not relevant to the current case. And you have to remember also these are not easy questions to answer. I thought that at least half the questions that were asked were rude and inappropriate. It's a difficult position to be in. Again, her responses made me somewhat uneasy, particularly the body language, but I do want to give her the benefit of the doubt. I do think she loved her brother, although probably wasn't that close to him.

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

I wasn't even able to read all of the posts here...

I came into this thread wanting to read about Rebbie since I missed the show she was on and here I have found so much wretched bitterness, resentment and what appears to be outright hate against Michael's family.

You guys I don't get it? Some of the most hateful comments I've read on here makes me wonder if the posters have any siblings themselves and if so are they taking their personal resentments towards their own family members and stacking them alongside that of the Jackson’s and if not could that be why they don't understand a family bond steeped in love and forgiveness...

Listen, whether anyone here or elsewhere like it, love it or hate it Michael's family is the one God gave him and He loved them regardless of their differences and conflicts. They may not have spent a lot of time together but they loved each other even if anyone thinks they had a crappy way of showing it.

I know everyone wants to see Michael in a pristine light of absolution and we all know his heart shone like an angels but is it so hard to see that many people were taking advantage of Michael? When we hear the term drug use, abuse, addiction it's easy to get angry at the speaker but can we try to hear them out before casting judgments and drawing proverbial lines in the sand pushing them to the side of us against you?
We all know Michael took medications for issues he suffered and some people call those medications drugs is it too far fetched to think that he like millions of Americans faced an addiction with those medications? Is it impossible to believe that the many leaches surrounding him did not look out for his safety while he was taking medications?

Some act as if only since June 25th has anyone talked about Michael needing help and you honestly have to go no further than this same board to see that for many years there was great concern expressed for him by his family members and others. So why act as if this is new and his family is to blame for their claims?

I'm not Michael but I have a family that I love and if people I love were to attack my family in such a way as many here have done I would be devastated... If Michael were here I have no doubt that he too would be devastated. Why? Because even though people of the worst state lied against him, hurt him and brutalized him with accusations he still spoke out in love... Even though members of his family weren't all he may have wanted to be he still spoke and acted in love towards them. He led by example while following the example of Jesus Christ.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and ask you all to PLEASE stop the excessive resentment, the bitterness and the hatred that is being flung about for all to see and PLEASE, PLEASE try to replace it with love, understanding and sympathy. Yes, it's easy to hate but just like eagles sale the highest heights of the sky so are they who love despite ones easiness to do so.

Was anyone here present every second of Michael's life? No. Did anyone here see Michael taking any medications even? Probably not. Therefore until someone has the actual concrete fact let's not bashing his family for whatever it is they have to say unless they should venture into an outright attack against Michael which I am yet to see them do.

Someone mentioned Joe discussing his record company in an interview well different people cope with grief differently. Some break down and do nothing and some pour themselves into their work while some just kinda drift around as if sub existing or some or all of the above at different intervals. I know this. Michael loved his dad and his dad loved him and to be honest that is all that matters. Granted Joe made mistakes in life but Michael forgave him of every last one of them. Do you think he would want us to have unforgiving hearts? We all know better than that!

As for his siblings doing interviews and promoting their music did you ever think that this is what they have been working on all along but only now are they being given airtime? Is that so hard to believe? I know Genevieve has been pursuing music for many years because I know someone who said they were working with her and I'd seen posts concerning her long ago and I'd seen things about other relatives of his as well. Can we step back and look with the part of our hearts that is not so full of pain and blame and bitterness ever ready to attack anyone approaching? I don't know everyone in his family so I can't tell you what they all thought about Michael but I can presume they loved him because he was far too loveable for them not have and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he loved them.

Lastly, I know that Michael loved us who also very truly, deeply and sincerely loved him and he would not want our hearts, minds and words to be filled with bitterness, hatred or malice. If you don't love Michael's family fine, that is between you and God but in respect to Michael could we all please if not going so far as to respect them could we muster the energy to not disrespect them?

I know I may get blasted for writing this and perhaps someone or many will say who the --- does she think she is but all I am is a servant of Christ and one who loves. I say these things 'cause it needs to be said and for some reason God is moving me to speak, so there you go. Please pardon my frankness, I'm pretty forward. I love you guys and I pray you read my writing with understanding hearts.

God bless you!!!

 

[Justthefacts]

Uh yeah. So can anyone please tell me what was the point of her being on this show?

 

[xthunderx2]

I wasn't even able to read all of the posts here...

I came into this thread wanting to read about Rebbie since I missed the show she was on and here I have found so much wretched bitterness, resentment and what appears to be outright hate against Michael's family.

You guys I don't get it? Some of the most hateful comments I've read on here makes me wonder if the posters have any siblings themselves and if so are they taking their personal resentments towards their own family members and stacking them alongside that of the Jackson’s and if not could that be why they don't understand a family bond steeped in love and forgiveness...

Listen, whether anyone here or elsewhere like it, love it or hate it Michael's family is the one God gave him and He loved them regardless of their differences and conflicts. They may not have spent a lot of time together but they loved each other even if anyone thinks they had a crappy way of showing it.

I know everyone wants to see Michael in a pristine light of absolution and we all know his heart shone like an angels but is it so hard to see that many people were taking advantage of Michael? When we hear the term drug use, abuse, addiction it's easy to get angry at the speaker but can we try to hear them out before casting judgments and drawing proverbial lines in the sand pushing them to the side of us against you?
We all know Michael took medications for issues he suffered and some people call those medications drugs is it too far fetched to think that he like millions of Americans faced an addiction with those medications? Is it impossible to believe that the many leaches surrounding him did not look out for his safety while he was taking medications?

Some act as if only since June 25th has anyone talked about Michael needing help and you honestly have to go no further than this same board to see that for many years there was great concern expressed for him by his family members and others. So why act as if this is new and his family is to blame for their claims?

I'm not Michael but I have a family that I love and if people I love were to attack my family in such a way as many here have done I would be devastated... If Michael were here I have no doubt that he too would be devastated. Why? Because even though people of the worst state lied against him, hurt him and brutalized him with accusations he still spoke out in love... Even though members of his family weren't all he may have wanted to be he still spoke and acted in love towards them. He led by example while following the example of Jesus Christ.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and ask you all to PLEASE stop the excessive resentment, the bitterness and the hatred that is being flung about for all to see and PLEASE, PLEASE try to replace it with love, understanding and sympathy. Yes, it's easy to hate but just like eagles sale the highest heights of the sky so are they who love despite ones easiness to do so.

Was anyone here present every second of Michael's life? No. Did anyone here see Michael taking any medications even? Probably not. Therefore until someone has the actual concrete fact let's not bashing his family for whatever it is they have to say unless they should venture into an outright attack against Michael which I am yet to see them do.

Someone mentioned Joe discussing his record company in an interview well different people cope with grief differently. Some break down and do nothing and some pour themselves into their work while some just kinda drift around as if sub existing or some or all of the above at different intervals. I know this. Michael loved his dad and his dad loved him and to be honest that is all that matters. Granted Joe made mistakes in life but Michael forgave him of every last one of them. Do you think he would want us to have unforgiving hearts? We all know better than that!

As for his siblings doing interviews and promoting their music did you ever think that this is what they have been working on all along but only now are they being given airtime? Is that so hard to believe? I know Genevieve has been pursuing music for many years because I know someone who said they were working with her and I'd seen posts concerning her long ago and I'd seen things about other relatives of his as well. Can we step back and look with the part of our hearts that is not so full of pain and blame and bitterness ever ready to attack anyone approaching? I don't know everyone in his family so I can't tell you what they all thought about Michael but I can presume they loved him because he was far too loveable for them not have and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he loved them.

Lastly, I know that Michael loved us who also very truly, deeply and sincerely loved him and he would not want our hearts, minds and words to be filled with bitterness, hatred or malice. If you don't love Michael's family fine, that is between you and God but in respect to Michael could we all please if not going so far as to respect them could we muster the energy to not disrespect them?

I know I may get blasted for writing this and perhaps someone or many will say who the --- does she think she is but all I am is a servant of Christ and one who loves. I say these things 'cause it needs to be said and for some reason God is moving me to speak, so there you go. Please pardon my frankness, I'm pretty forward. I love you guys and I pray you read my writing with understanding hearts.

God bless you!!!

its post like this that give the Jackson's permission to talk the way they do about Michael. Michael NEVER bashed any of them in public...on the contrary he did the opposite...he always spoke highly of his siblings..or he said nothing at all. Why do they wait until Michael is not here anymore to defend himself.?? Do they have a different autopsy report than the world does? I doubt it. Your talking about not bashing them..your talking about giving them the benefit of the doubt....dont you think for one minute that if they were the close family that you are betraying them to be..then they would NEVER in a million years be running around saying the stuff they are saying about Michael.....why is it that Michael was all hush about his dysfunctional family....but yet they throw him under the bus the first chance they get. If they were SO loyal to their sibling....they would never be going on national tv and calling him and addict..or saying that they tried to have an intervention. If they cared about him that much ..then the questions came out they would say.."No comment"....but no...they dont do that....they speak whatever comes out of their mouths....they are giving Murray his defense..possibly even his freedom. They cannot sit there and call Michael an addict in one sentence and call Murray a Murderer in the next. Are they not aware that as far as the defense goes the two of them go hand in hand?? Of course they know this. They just dont really care...and it obvious they dont really care what they say about Michael WILL effect his children s views of their father...kids are NOT stupid...the hear stuff....they have the internet....the see interviews...they have friends who hear things. So with that being said...before you jump to the defense of the siblings...please give some thought to what it is THEY are doing to a man who is NOT here to set the record straight.

 

[LindavG]

OK, I watched the clip and I have to say a few things.

1. Rebbie looks great for her age (let's start out positive )

2. Who of the women sitting there is Joy? I suppose it's that old white woman? I wish Rebbie had called her out. Not surprised she didn't though.

3. I thought Austin said his mother was going to talk about olvarian cancer? Didn't hear a word of it. As expected, 90% of the interview was about Michael and his kids. Then again, there isn't much to say about Rebbie's very brief career. I felt quite embarrassed for her when someone said she had a 20 year break and is now finally performing again, and Rebbie said she never stopped doing that. It's good that she's promoting a good cause though. But I doubt she's gonna sell out many shows. Maybe she should join Janet on her theatre tour.

4. I'm surprised her son Austin and his musical aspirations wasn't mentioned in the interview.

5. Is it me or did it seem like Barbara Walters was pushing an agenda with questions like "How do you feel about Michael leaving nothing to the rest of his family? I can understand if you're upset about that" and "What do you think about Diana Ross being the second choice guardian for the kids" etc. It seemed like she tried to paint Michael in a bad light and Rebbie did nothing to defend him. Surely she knows about his friendship with Diana so she shouldn't act like this was some crazy choice by Michael.

6. I am convinced that Barbara Walters had more plastic surgery/botox than MJ. The woman can barely move her mouth.

7. I was so frustrated with Rebbie's answer regarding her feelings towards Conrad Murray. She took like 10 sec. to consider her answer, as if she wasn't sure. Then she said she "wants to know the truth" when the truth about Michael's health is already out there in the form of an autopsy report. It's disgraceful that the family is STILL spewing their misguided opinions as facts. I'm sure Hayvenhurst has an internet connection so there is no excuse for their ignorance. And the way she talked about trying to help MJ with his drug problems, saying "oh sure, many times" (yet once again not mentioning any specifics about those "interventions") which makes it sound like it was widely accepted that MJ was a drug addict and interventions were a common occurence. Her answer was way too vague and that little reservation at the end did nothing to limit the damage. It's comments like hers that make the general public believe Michael was indeed a drug addict and is thus responsible for his own death.

I've lost the last little bit of respect I had for her.

 

[yaazgurl]

The summary I read must have been fabricated the. I heard she talked about Yashi's diagnosis and specifically said about Murray that he killed Michael. Either way I'm glad I didn't watch because I didn't exxpect anything good. But you do realize they are not able to take back the drug addict story because they are the ones who reinforced it and they want to save face so the best they can do is emphasize that Murray killed Michael like Katherine did in her recent interview

 

[bluetopez]

The summary I read must have been fabricated the. I heard she talked about Yashi's diagnosis and specifically said about Murray that he killed Michael. Either way I'm glad I didn't watch because I didn't exxpect anything good. But you do realize they are not able to take back the drug addict story because they are the ones who reinforced it and they want to save face so the best they can do is emphasize that Murray killed Michael like Katherine did in her recent interview

She did mention at the end about her daughter Yashi's diagnosis and that her daughter is writing a book about it! Let's hope Mj don't get mentioned in the book too?!

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

I don't know if you all realize it or not but talk concerning Michael, his family concerns and interventions have been going on for a very long time now even back to when Ramone Baine was working with him and possibly before that. Are you guys not aware, have people forgotten or is it simpler to say since it's inconvenient now they shouldn't say it so in essence his family is wrong and are throwing him under the bus?
I'm not going to get in discussions on what is right and what is wrong but years ago when some fans were defending Ramone Baine and other working with him, some were defending the family etc. and I asked people to not place judgments and to look for truth. I'm asking that again... We need to be mindful that we don't know everything and believe you me I am trying as I am sure many of you are with my heart of hearts and greatest intentions to figure many things out...

Xthunderx2 You said

"Michael NEVER bashed any of them in public...on the contrary he did the opposite...he always spoke highly of his siblings..or he said nothing at all. Why do they wait until Michael is not here anymore to defend himself.?? "

My question is do you think to disrespect Michael's family whom he loved and showed respect to is disrespecting Michael? He is not around to defend them either or perhaps rather remind and encourage us to show forgiveness and acceptance even as he has done.

When people say his family is wrong for calling him an addict I am not disputing that as wrong nor upholding it to be right, perhaps it was a bad choice of words. Perhaps we already have so many bad connotations in our minds when we hear the word addict we instantly think of people shooting up heroine or sniffing coke like in the movies and presume this is what the family is saying about him. I am aware that millions of Americans have faced some degree of "addiction" to prescription medications and we know Michael was being prescribed medicine for whatever medical conditions he faced. Do you know that often times a doctor will make the determination that getting a person through the pain they are experiencing or will be experiencing is more important than the likely addiction they would or could develop from pain medication. Sometimes even medicines that have harmful side effects are considered necessary because the possible benefits outweigh the possible harm.

Michael suffered from medical conditions he faced. Can we agree on that? Some people want to know well, what drugs/medications were he taking and the answer to every question that pops into ones mind. Granted, I'd love it if I could have every answer my mind could fathom - no, I'm lying I wouldn't... I would hate to have every answer to every question my mind could fathom because sometimes I wonder how peoples hearts can be so decrepit and lacking in love and compassion and how people can do such vile things and to be honest I never want to know the answer to such things... Sorry I got off topic but what I was trying to say is that everyone will never be satisfied with everything another person does. It’s just not feasible. What is feasible is love and acceptance and when love falls short grace and mercy leaves plenty of room for short comings. There is a scripture that tells us the same manner of judgment we use against men. God will use against us... Are we prepared for that? Only God knows the hearts and intentions of men unless He reveals that to us all we can do is presume and many of the presumptions here seem unfair and outright cruel.

Xthunderx2 you also said it's "posts like mine give that give the Jackson's permission to talk the way they do about Michael" but my post is here for the purpose of encouraging us all, myself included to exhibit compassion reason and love. That's what we all know Michael would want as you illustrated earlier in your statement that he never bashed his family.
　
I love how you and everyone here write showing so much love for Michael but please let's all try to be cautious in our efforts of showing respect as well to him by extending that to his family. I'm not asking anyone to agree or disagree but only to be respectful...

Love you and God bless you!!!
　
Goodnight

 

[libsta81]

@ Sharon B. Sidney thank you for your mature and insightful posts

I thought the interview was ok..i wouldve like to have heard more questions that weren't related to Michael and tabloid..And I didn't know Yashi had bipolar!

Also I don't understand why many ppl on this board get offended when the family say they had interventions for Michael..what is wrong with that? They are not saying that he was an addict when he died..just that in the past they were concerned enough to try and confront Michael about being addicted to pain medication...Perhaps Michael had enablers around him that shut everyone around him out...What is so wrong with the possibility that Michael at one point may have been addicted to pain medication? No where has the family implied he was some kind of junkie..interventions are not only for junkies..

 

[Roosje]

Also I don't understand why many ppl on this board get offended when the family say they had interventions for Michael..what is wrong with that? They are not saying that he was an addict when he died..just that in the past they were concerned enough to try and confront Michael about being addicted to pain medication...Perhaps Michael had enablers around him that shut everyone around him out...What is so wrong with the possibility that Michael at one point may have been addicted to pain medication? No where has the family implied he was some kind of junkie..interventions are not only for junkies..

Well said.

About the interview. Rebbie seemed a little rusty when it comes to doing interviews. Half of the time I think she didn't quite understand the question of what the question was implying. She seemd a bit confused. It was a bit random. I don't think we learned anything new other than Jashi being bipolar, writing a book and Rebbie going on tour for it. Overall I was just too distracted by Barbara Walters' boots. They were more hideous than your average pair of uggs and didn't fit the ensemble at all.

 

[chanel05]

I understand that most don't like the family which is fine but some of you exaggerate everything they say. After MJ death none of his family has bashed him, they all speak of him well. The only thing they have said bad about him is that they think he had an addiction. They all have also said that they blame muarry for his death. None of them have accused MJ. I agree that some of the things that the family do and say is questionable but that's been going on well before MJ died.

Im sure many of us knew what questions would be asked and probably how she would answer. So I don't see what's the point of being up in arms over something you already knew she would say. If you really hate them that much, stop watching and reading their interviews and stop coming to the 2300 Jackson Street forum. I will never understand how people that so-called hate people dedicate 80% of their post to them. That's backwards. If you don't like someone ignore them cause all of this ranting and raving on a message board isn't gonna change anything. It just makes you look hateful.

 

[Alayasha]

Please do not take my comment as confrontational because that is not my intent. I agree that people in general should strive to be more loving and forgiving. What bothers me is that fans are criticized and urged to be more "Michael-like" in their opinions yet Michael's family isn't encouraged to do the same? His family should be held to a higher standard in terms of how they speak of their deceased brother compared to a random, anonymous person on a message board. Fans comments will go no further than this board, the Jackson's comments have the potential to be screaming headlines around the world, possibly affecting the jury pool. Though I do not believe the drug intervention has any true relevance to Murrays guilt, it could possibly reduce Michael to a less than sympathetic victim and reduce any potential jail time if there is a conviction. Some people already hold the belief that if he didn't die during Murray's watch, it would have happened eventually because he was an in denial addict who wanted it. In seeking justice, I'm not sure that its a good strategy to reinforce that believe by making vague statements about drugs, never mentioning a drug by name or a time-line. Remember, some family members released a statement denying interventions, was that statement a lie? I will not criticize them; however, I can certainly understand those who do because quite honestly many if not most people cannot fathom doing and saying some of the things some of the Jackson's have publicly said about their brother and his children. Some of this stuff has been head-scratching to say the least and not something Michael would have done if put in their position. Also, I don't understand why they never mention he hadf lupus and the amounts of drugs he may have needed during a flare-up. The states attorney for CA investigated many of his doctors and no charges were filed (there is 1 investigation about a prescription with the wrong name) and Murray wasn't charged with prescribing to an addict so maybe people should re-evaluate labeling people enablers.

Sorry this is off topic. I don't watch The View but I hope there was some info provided about bi-polar disorder.

 

[MJStorm]

It's funny how some of you "hate the family" so much, steadily tuning in to their appearances.

"Only stupid people invest their time in people they claim not to like."

It is not the first time you offend members. Go back to your Janet. She's selling out small theaters with the help of Blackglama. Be proud and shut up.

 

[chanel05]

Please do not take my comment as confrontational because that is not my intent. I agree that people in general should strive to be more loving and forgiving. What bothers me is that fans are criticized and urged to be more "Michael-like" in their opinions yet Michael's family isn't encouraged to do the same? His family should be held to a higher standard in terms of how they speak of their deceased brother compared to a random, anonymous person on a message board. Fans comments will go no further than this board, the Jackson's comments have the potential to be screaming headlines around the world, possibly affecting the jury pool. Though I do not believe the drug intervention has any true relevance to Murrays guilt, it could possibly reduce Michael to a less than sympathetic victim and reduce any potential jail time if there is a conviction. Some people already hold the belief that if he didn't die during Murray's watch, it would have happened eventually because he was an in denial addict who wanted it. In seeking justice, I'm not sure that its a good strategy to reinforce that believe by making vague statements about drugs, never mentioning a drug by name or a time-line. Remember, some family members released a statement denying interventions, was that statement a lie? I will not criticize them; however, I can certainly understand those who do because quite honestly many if not most people cannot fathom doing and saying some of the things some of the Jackson's have publicly said about their brother and his children. Some of this stuff has been head-scratching to say the least and not something Michael would have done if put in their position. Also, I don't understand why they never mention he hadf lupus and the amounts of drugs he may have needed during a flare-up. The states attorney for CA investigated many of his doctors and no charges were filed (there is 1 investigation about a prescription with the wrong name) and Murray wasn't charged with prescribing to an addict so maybe people should re-evaluate labeling people enablers.

Sorry this is off topic. I don't watch The View but I hope there was some info provided about bi-polar disorder.

The only thing the family has said about MJ that puts him in a bad light is the interventions. They haven't said anything else bad but they have done some questionable things. N it's not even all the family, only a few talk. From what I heard about MJ lupus is that is was the non-life threatening form. So i doubt he had to take all the medicine that would be required for the life threatening form, and it was in remission (per dr.klein). He had to take pills for other illness and aches and pained that happened though.

 

[Alma]

What can't be understood that it is Wrong to be discussing such private matters with the Media, with the world, whether it's true that interventions took place or not? It is something Private, that is covered to the fullest and distorted by the Media headlines, who ruined Jackson's reputation for most of his life. How come None of these people Ever talk about Jackson's pain, of the living nightmares and hell, literal hell he had to deal with all his life? Why do they omit (some of them, again, not referring to all of the Jackson family members) the fact they Often pressured him into touring with the family, and he said No? He agreed to do the Victory Tour for Them, he yielded to their pressures. He agreed to appear to the Jackson Family Honors in 1994, although Michael was in Full convalescing period After the hell he was going through with the false allegations, after Admitting himself to the world he needed help because of the horrifying nightmares he was undergoing. Then he got Booed on that same night when Elizabeth Taylor introduced him and told the audience he wasn't going to perform, and she called that Disrespectful of right. A human being he was, and was forced to appear up there and give awards, even though he hated to do television, present awards and all that, even though his heart was in shreds and was still struggling to smile and be strong. Yet PR was more important than his health. Just as it was when the family and Gest pressured him to do the 2001 reunion concert at the MSG, and he yielded to those pressures, although he wasn't feeling well. Those times he wasn't in denial, right, it was all about the Reunion. How many times did they pressure him for reunions upon reunions?

How many times did Rebbie, his sister, appear at the 2005 hearings to be there for his struggling brother? ... How many times was she there?

How many times did he feel he was gonna die inside with all the hurt and trash thrown at him, yet the Only thing that kept him alive all the time was his children and children in general - his own words?

When are some of the family members going to ever speak about all the horrifying physical and emotional pains he had before hurrying to blab about interventions, which Again... should remain a private topic. There is an impending trial just around the corner of the man who killed Jackson, Jackson Not being addicted, if some of them still refuse to acknowledge. How is their 'many, many, many' intervention stories to ever help Michael's destroyed reputation? He is Not even here anymore to defend himself, when he was alive, they never mentioned these interventions, since he's dead, it's okay to do that, they've got a free pass? What are these media pundits, their confiders, their psychotherapists, their mother to be this blunt and allegedly frank? Isn't that burying Jackson even deeper in the ground?

She did say, thankfully, that Murray is to blame. But his defense are gloating and being relaxed for Jackson's own flesh and blood are "confirming" what they are out to be pushing to save the killer's skin. How is that justice? He never Once spoke bad about his family in public or shared some secrets about them, he Only admitted to his father hurting him, which was his human right to do. And he Still said he forgave him and that he was a genius and all that. He never once bashed not even his sister LaToya, but told to the public that he loved her and that she's the same La Toya. Maybe bashing isn't the right word in this case with Rebbie and other family members, but brainwashing. Regardless, they're adults, they should think before readying to speak and defend their deceased family member. In private, they can say or do whatever, they're entitled to their own opinions, but you don't confide in the media, you don't divulge personal damaging issues, true or false, to them, not to those who destroyed Jackson far too many times before. You first acknowledge that person as a human being who went through hell before hurrying to say they were in denial. he was one of the most conscious and health conscious beings. Like Teddy Riley said, even when he Felt - like a human being that he was with a living heart of flesh, that makes one feel when a head is sore, a back hurts, a heart of right does too - even when he felt like taking something to ease his Existent pains, he Didn't do it, he remained strong for his friends. For his children especially. Why don't they talk about the endless lawsuits he underwent, the shattered heart he was left with after the 1993 allegations and the trial in 2005, But that, despite all that, he Fought to live and he knew days and moments of bliss and ecstasy finding refuge in innocence, in being a wonderful parent? Yeah, cause they didn't know him too well at all, but that's no excuse. Some never met him and many things are so clear to them, for they're really true, and when some members of his own family don't have Any idea of this or can't empathize with their flesh and blood, that Hurts a great deal, and some are wondering why he at times kept distance and sought comfort and understanding in other families.... Just to say for once at least - meaning some members of the family, not the case with all - "He was a wonderful person, who went through some of the most horrible ordeals, so it's understandable why he did this and that" or sth to that effect, if they can't be quiet about these so-called interventions. But no. The motive, the pain factor, them looking at their own person, hurrying to defend their father (who many know what he did to them and they know, but brush it off, in interviews they surely do) before their sibling.

Such a big pity... Still got hopes left for Jackie and Marlon..

 

[twinklEE]

Invasion of Jackson fanatics, ironic how long lost members show up in the defense of the all mighty family yet they havent bothered to one supportive post/positive post about Michael at least since he died or even longer.

 

[Memefan]

Sharon B. Talk of drug addiction has been going on for years.. Yes. And guess who'd been selling those to the tabloids?

Ok... I like your first post ...now replace all the accusatory "you's " with "the Jacksons". Then you will get IT.

Don't ask me to respect Michael's family ...when the family is unable to respect Michael, his kids & his wishes.

And contrary to your assumptions about fans, I have siblings. And I can honestly say... MY relationship with them is NOTHING like the Jacksons' with MJ before and after June 25th. Our love & support to one another are based on the individual's financial status. And I wouldn't expect my siblings to financially support me or leave me their hard earned cash...I earn my own. Not to a Michael scale, but I earn my money HONESTLY.



So I know what I am writing about...

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

I agree with Alma. I don't think that they should be discussing this at all, especially with how bad it will make Michael look during Murray's trial. But since the Jacksons insist on talking about this, they should have gone all the way and said when these supposed "interventions" took place. I think one of the major problems that fans who disagree with the family's talk on this subject, have is that the Jacksons are not clear about the timeframe. And the way they are talking leaves the door open for the media and haters to jump the gun yet again and say that Michael was an addict and that is purely how and why he died. To me, the family are giving Murray his defense on a silver platter whether they know it or not. It is all in the way they come across with their claims. And if they wanted Murray to face justice for what happened to Michael, they shouldn't have started talking like or about this in the first place IMO.

 

[StacyJ]

it is not the first time you offend members. Go back to your janet. She's selling out small theaters with the help of blackglama. Be proud and shut up.

lol....

 

[StacyJ]

The fact that MJ's killer is on trial for administering dangerous levels of sedatives and anesthesia and his 'loving' family is going on and on and on about interventions and denials is just plain sickening. I could see if MJ died of a self-induced overdose but my God the man was under doctors' care with the doctor in his home by his bedside. What in the world is the family doing? Like AngieJ said, they suck!!!

 

[goldiee]

I don't get it, what is there left to 'save'? There is no face to be saved anymore, it's all gone; flushed down the toilet, yet these ppl are unaware of it, and continue to embarrass themselves even further. (if that's even possible)

They don't get it. They still think that people view them as the great Jackson family. They don't realize that the public has been talking about their dysfunction for years. I honestly think the public would have more respect for them if they came out and admitted to the problems and tried to fix their family. Kind of like the Debarge family has been more open with the problems in their family and the public pretty much embraces their struggle to fight back, like El Debarge, people are rooting for his comeback. But the Jacksons piss people off in the public because they like to pretend that's what's right in front of people isn't really the way it is.

 

[chanel05]

@ Alma.. I don't think MJ was pressured to do the 30th anniversary. I thought that was his idea. Also I wouldn't say they are brainwashing anybody. They are stating their version of events and you can chose to believe if you want to. Also Teddy Riley didn't say that MJ wouldn't take his meds, he just wouldn't do it around family and friends. Also Rebbie did support her brother. How many times she came to court is irrelevant because we don't know what she was or wasn't doing. I do know she did show up sometimes.
I agree with everything else though. Honestly none of us know why they do what they do. We aren't inside their heads and we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. So we shouldn't get worked up over something we have no control over. That's why I said if you don't like the family, don't watch or read their interviews or come to this board because it's useless. 98% of the threads on this board turn into a bash Jackson family thread and it's stupid. Why continuously post about people you hate????

@kingofpopforever people were gonna say MJ died an addict whether the family talked about interventions or not. They weren't the ones who brought up the addict or intervention talk, it was others. They confirmed that they felt he had a problem and staged interventions.
Honestly, do I agree with them saying that?? No, especially not during this time.

@ stacyj even though MJ didn't die from pills, he still died from a mix of benzos and propofol so it still is gonna come up. Do I agree with them saying it... No

 

[donalb]

Notice how Rebbie moved her hand towards her face when she responded to the intervention question. We learned in Social Psychology class that is a sign that someone is lying. Obviously, I can't say for sure, but her body language when she responded to that question indicated she may not have been 100% honest.

In general, I do like the Jackson family. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that when they refer to interventions they are being honest. It is possible that they had concerns and raised them with MJ, even if they didn't know if the stories were true or not. I don't see my siblings often but I love them dearly and if I had been hearing stories about alleged drug use, I would ask them out of concern and try to ensure if needed that they got help. So, just b/c they intervened it doesn't necessarily mean they thought he was a drug addict, just that they were concerned that he may have been. With them not spending a lot of time with him, they wouldn't know w/o asking. And them not spending a lot of time with him has nothing to do with how much they loved him. Again, I love my siblings even though I don't see them much.

I do have to give Rebbie credit for saying that it's not relevant to the current case. And you have to remember also these are not easy questions to answer. I thought that at least half the questions that were asked were rude and inappropriate. It's a difficult position to be in. Again, her responses made me somewhat uneasy, particularly the body language, but I do want to give her the benefit of the doubt. I do think she loved her brother, although probably wasn't that close to him.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I also think that her delay with the Murray question could just be that she's hesitant to label him as a "murderer" or that she believes other people may also be involved. I didn't get the sense that she was putting the blame on Michael as some others have suggested.

 

[Memefan]

yes he died from benzos's and propofol given to him by Murray, he wasn't sitting at home trying to get high, so be careful with your insinuations.
Again ur the queen/king of ignorance Chanel, the ignorance ur displaying almost matches those of ur beloved Jackson's keep it up and u might receive a thank you mail from them.

That is why I love the ignore function. I have had enough...

 

[goldiee]

I wasn't even able to read all of the posts here...

I came into this thread wanting to read about Rebbie since I missed the show she was on and here I have found so much wretched bitterness, resentment and what appears to be outright hate against Michael's family.

You guys I don't get it? Some of the most hateful comments I've read on here makes me wonder if the posters have any siblings themselves and if so are they taking their personal resentments towards their own family members and stacking them alongside that of the Jackson’s and if not could that be why they don't understand a family bond steeped in love and forgiveness...

Listen, whether anyone here or elsewhere like it, love it or hate it Michael's family is the one God gave him and He loved them regardless of their differences and conflicts. They may not have spent a lot of time together but they loved each other even if anyone thinks they had a crappy way of showing it.

I know everyone wants to see Michael in a pristine light of absolution and we all know his heart shone like an angels but is it so hard to see that many people were taking advantage of Michael? When we hear the term drug use, abuse, addiction it's easy to get angry at the speaker but can we try to hear them out before casting judgments and drawing proverbial lines in the sand pushing them to the side of us against you?
We all know Michael took medications for issues he suffered and some people call those medications drugs is it too far fetched to think that he like millions of Americans faced an addiction with those medications? Is it impossible to believe that the many leaches surrounding him did not look out for his safety while he was taking medications?

Some act as if only since June 25th has anyone talked about Michael needing help and you honestly have to go no further than this same board to see that for many years there was great concern expressed for him by his family members and others. So why act as if this is new and his family is to blame for their claims?

I'm not Michael but I have a family that I love and if people I love were to attack my family in such a way as many here have done I would be devastated... If Michael were here I have no doubt that he too would be devastated. Why? Because even though people of the worst state lied against him, hurt him and brutalized him with accusations he still spoke out in love... Even though members of his family weren't all he may have wanted to be he still spoke and acted in love towards them. He led by example while following the example of Jesus Christ.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and ask you all to PLEASE stop the excessive resentment, the bitterness and the hatred that is being flung about for all to see and PLEASE, PLEASE try to replace it with love, understanding and sympathy. Yes, it's easy to hate but just like eagles sale the highest heights of the sky so are they who love despite ones easiness to do so.

Was anyone here present every second of Michael's life? No. Did anyone here see Michael taking any medications even? Probably not. Therefore until someone has the actual concrete fact let's not bashing his family for whatever it is they have to say unless they should venture into an outright attack against Michael which I am yet to see them do.

Someone mentioned Joe discussing his record company in an interview well different people cope with grief differently. Some break down and do nothing and some pour themselves into their work while some just kinda drift around as if sub existing or some or all of the above at different intervals. I know this. Michael loved his dad and his dad loved him and to be honest that is all that matters. Granted Joe made mistakes in life but Michael forgave him of every last one of them. Do you think he would want us to have unforgiving hearts? We all know better than that!

As for his siblings doing interviews and promoting their music did you ever think that this is what they have been working on all along but only now are they being given airtime? Is that so hard to believe? I know Genevieve has been pursuing music for many years because I know someone who said they were working with her and I'd seen posts concerning her long ago and I'd seen things about other relatives of his as well. Can we step back and look with the part of our hearts that is not so full of pain and blame and bitterness ever ready to attack anyone approaching? I don't know everyone in his family so I can't tell you what they all thought about Michael but I can presume they loved him because he was far too loveable for them not have and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he loved them.

Lastly, I know that Michael loved us who also very truly, deeply and sincerely loved him and he would not want our hearts, minds and words to be filled with bitterness, hatred or malice. If you don't love Michael's family fine, that is between you and God but in respect to Michael could we all please if not going so far as to respect them could we muster the energy to not disrespect them?

I know I may get blasted for writing this and perhaps someone or many will say who the --- does she think she is but all I am is a servant of Christ and one who loves. I say these things 'cause it needs to be said and for some reason God is moving me to speak, so there you go. Please pardon my frankness, I'm pretty forward. I love you guys and I pray you read my writing with understanding hearts.

God bless you!!!

In 2008-2009, Janet went on tv stating her brothers wanted to do a reunion tour and one brother was the holdout. She was also mentioned in Leonard Rowe's book as having a meeting at Michael's house requesting he join his brothers in cocnert and became angry when Michael said no. At what point did this coincide with her and Randy and Rebbie attempting an intervention for Michael for an alleged prescription drug problem?

 

[Alma]

@ Alma.. I don't think MJ was pressured to do the 30th anniversary. I thought that was his idea.

I've a different recollection about that, including of that it was Gest who was instrumental in getting Michael to perform with his brothers.

That's why I said if you don't like the family, don't watch or read their interviews or come to this board because it's useless. 98% of the threads on this board turn into a bash Jackson family thread and it's stupid. Why continuously post about people you hate????

Agrees, but not everyone who doesn't support what some of the Jackson family do or say hates the family, nor do they engage in non-constructive debates often. The best for some of these family members to do is remain quiet about Michael altogether. It's often that quietness is now seen well, but it often indicates respect, as it happens with Diana Ross, Elizabeth Taylor, Macauley Culkin or Chris Tucker, they rarely talked about their friend with the media and said nothing but supportive things about him. If they have other opinions of him, they keep them to themselves, in the context of Jackson being furiously criticized, scrutinized and attacked and blamed by many anyway, how much more fuel to the fire to add? Especially in this crucial aspect of the trial eve.... It's something awfully, awfully serious.

@ stacyj even though MJ didn't die from pills, he still died from a mix of benzos and propofol so it still is gonna come up.

At the hands of his own doctor, yes.

 

[twinklEE]

Michael is still having the last laugh from heaven over their pitiful and pathetic attempts, you know why? Because he didn't leave them a dime, a fact that makes their blood boil!! LMAO. Good luck to them trying to sell Michael out in 5/10 years from today in order to make some money, my prediction is no one will be interested in a word they have to say then, their newly resurrected and/or found 'careers' will soon come to an end.

 

[chanel05]

They don't get it. They still think that people view them as the great Jackson family. They don't realize that the public has been talking about their dysfunction for years. I honestly think the public would have more respect for them if they came out and admitted to the problems and tried to fix their family. Kind of like the Debarge family has been more open with the problems in their family and the public pretty much embraces their struggle to fight back, like El Debarge, people are rooting for his comeback. But the Jacksons piss people off in the public because they like to pretend that's what's right in front of people isn't really the way it is.

The public was calling the family dysfunctional including MJ. The main ones that the public were calling dysfunctional were MJ, Toya and Joe. People refer to Janet as the normal one and Rebbie is the one that no one really even knows about. Also they usually give Katherine a pass. On here when we say Jackson family it's minus MJ, everywhere else it's all inclusive.(let me clear this up now before someone try to put words in my mouth. I don't think MJ or any of them are dysfunctional or as crazy as they try to paint them to be. I was just explaining to the poster that when they say dysfunctional family, MJ is one of the main ones they refer to. Go to another board that's not an MJ board and you'll see my point)

N it's not even about what they admit or don't admit, they will always think they are crazy as hell and refuse to believe otherwise. That's why till this day you have so many different opinions about who MJ was. Also the jacksons have/had an image to uphold and protect. The debarge's don't. Now if the jacksons have all been in and out of jail and rehab then I would agree. But since there's no solid evidence of there problems, only speculation, they don't have to admit anything. Especially not to the public. Going off what they say, I do think there are some problems they need to fix.

 

[Alma]

@ Alma.. I don't think MJ was pressured to do the 30th anniversary. I thought that was his idea.

I've a different recollection about that, including of that it was Gest who was instrumental in getting Michael to perform with his brothers.

That's why I said if you don't like the family, don't watch or read their interviews or come to this board because it's useless. 98% of the threads on this board turn into a bash Jackson family thread and it's stupid. Why continuously post about people you hate????

Agrees, but not everyone who doesn't support what some of the Jackson family do or say hates the family, nor do they engage in non-constructive debates often. The best for some of these family members to do is remain quiet about Michael altogether. It's often that quietness is not seen well and may fall equivalent with lack of support display, but it often indicates respect, esp of a private person, as it happens with Diana Ross, Elizabeth Taylor, Macauley Culkin or Chris Tucker, they rarely talked about their friend with the media and said nothing but supportive things about him so far. If they have other opinions of him, they keep them to themselves, in the context of Jackson being furiously criticized, scrutinized and attacked and blamed by many anyway, how much more fuel to the fire to add? Especially in this crucial aspect of the trial eve.... It's something awfully, awfully serious. Now, Rebbie didn't seem to blame his brother for his death, but Murray, but the alleged drug interventions he vaguely mentioned overshadowed a lot from the interview, that's like a light flickering bulb for the tabloid headlines, not to mention Murray's defense, who're going for the druggie route. If they - in this case, Rebbie - had been more specific about the timeline of these alleged interventions, it would've still been disrepectful to say, but at least it would've been clear on that he wasn't addicted, not in denial in his latest years - that horrid graphic autopsy proves it, although some couldn't go through it, but based on the available summaries, they know. In fact, he seemed to have been very much pressured by some of them to do a reunion tour, Janet herself confirming that she would love to open for them, but that there's 'one who's on the fence', so obviously, one would think he would have been fit for a tour if there were pressures in the first place. If he said 'no' often to them, that he doesn't want to tour with them, was not because he didn't love them, but because he wanted their companionship as blood-related person, not one linked by contracts, he had enough of that in his 25-year career of being in the Jackson 5/Jacksons....... If he said 'no' to them, does that mean he was in denial?... If one is truly concerned for someone and their health, they would not be pressuring that someone to do reunion tours, but, say, not go on tours altogether...... They may have been genuinely concerned at times, too, for him, but they should mention to the media, if they still talk to them, that he had a lot of hell to deal with all his life, so it's only normal and human to take something for the pains. This time, he couldn't sleep at all. Do some of them ever mention his insomnia? ...

@ stacyj even though MJ didn't die from pills, he still died from a mix of benzos and propofol so it still is gonna come up.

At the hands of his own doctor, yes. It's not like he was getting himself 'fixed', I wont imply that you meant it otherwise, but added that to what you said be more clear.

 

[Big Apple2]

Thank you for all of the updates, everybody. My DISAPPOINTMENT of the Jackson family continues.

I mean, why when they get a PLATFORM such as The View, they waste it by talking about "interventions" that have no date in time and/or no explaination what's so ever. "Some" of them continue to act like they just fell off the back of a turnip truck, in my opinion.

Murray and his team must be delighted. I mean, we all know that they have no defense, but in rolls the Jackson Family to hand him a case for reasonable doubt on a silver platter.

I, myself, would have taken the opportunity to discussion how and WHY Murray continues to be able to practice in Las Vegas and Texas. You know what I'm saying, time to HIJACK the interview, if necessary, and make your wishes known.

Put it out there: "We are not only watching you Conrad Murray, we are going to make some NOISE regarding the 2 medical licenses you continue to hold on to!"

The View is a PERFECT platform for that type of discussion.

Another failed attempt by a Jackson family member, in my opinion. At this point, NOTHING else matters, aside from keeping the PRESSURE on Murray. Let that be the headline for once, instead of the "undated" intervention talk.

Oh and you really have to laugh by the TRAP that was set by B. Walters. LOL! I don't think Rebbie saw that coming, i.e. the talk regarding who does and who doesn't benefit from Michael's will. Barbara (and the rest of the panel, I'm sure) knows what time it is regarding "some" members of the family being upset that they were left out of Michael's will.

Rebbie playing it safe, but folks ain't stupid! LOL!