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.............Awwwwww,Danillee,how sweet of you!:D:wub::D:yes:
Michael can be very proud above:wub::yes::wub:
 
Great post Danniilee. Your words were comforting for me to read and I hope they help others as well. After the tragic news of Michael.Mania's passing, I really feel shaken up right now. It's hard enough with Michael being gone and I don't want to hear of any more fans taking their lives!!! It just breaks my heart :no:. I honestly care about every fan and I don't want to hear any more stories like this. I feel like we're a family on here. We all need to support and help eachother during these very difficult times.
 
danniilee said:
Here are some tips that I found useful:

CONTACT a suicide prevention or crisis center or trusted friend, family member social worker, medical professional or rabbi, priest or minister and TALK. They will not think something is wrong with you or that you are "weird" or "crazy"

BE ACTIVE. Go for a walk and get some exercise. Often depressing and suicidal thoughts and feelings fade when something or someone else stimulates us.

DO SOMETHING - anything. It does not have to be a HUGE project - but a little project LIKE TIDYING UP a counter or small cupboard. Remember to PRAISE YOURSELF for the work you have done.

START A CREATIVE PROJECT in art, gardening, music, crafts, writing etc. Don't worry if your project is not a masterpiece. Many people have found when they are working on creative projects, they forget their painful suffering.

Find someone or an animal or plant who could USE YOUR LOVE AND CARE.

REMEMBER that along with your suicidal thoughts and feelings You are having other thoughts and feelings which are not suicidal.

LISTEN to your thoughts and feelings without analysing them, letting them come and go WITHOUT dwelling on them.

IDENTIFY and ACKNOWLEDGE other thoughts and feeling which are not suicidal.

REMEMBER that you have experienced times in your life when you did not have suicidal thoughts and feelings because you were not depressed but were hopeful at the time.

REMEMBER times in which you may have felt strong suicidal thoughts and feelings that eventually passed into times of other thoughts and feelings which were not depressing but WERE HOPEFUL and you were able to look forward.

ACKNOWLEDGE for yourself that having suicidal thoughts in the midst of other thoughts is emotionally draining and that you have shown incredible strength in remaining alive and staying alive in spite of the powerful suicidal thoughts and feelings that you may have.
In the same way that you do not believe or act upon all the thoughts and feelings that you may have, REMEMBER that just because you may have a suicidal thought or feeling, you do not have to believe or act upon the thought or feeling
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Some of these tips helped me when i was going through my depression, i would ask anyone to copy/print them and paste it somewhere. read it over and over.
i know i had to clear my head, it took time, but i replaced my sad thoughts that kept racing through my mind with something else day by day. and i got better to a point where i was before my sadness. suicide is sad, because you can actually get yourself out of it. you can turn your life around. whatever your problem is it can get better.

thanks for posting danniilee you can help many!
 
Not been on for a while but just read this - how lovely that you are offering support - if there is anything I can do I would be happy to help.

I have messaged you with my details.



Di x
 
Cinnamon234 said:
Great post Danniilee. Your words were comforting for me to read and I hope they help others as well. After the tragic news of Michael.Mania's passing, I really feel shaken up right now. It's hard enough with Michael being gone and I don't want to hear of any more fans taking their lives!!! It just breaks my heart :no:. I honestly care about every fan and I don't want to hear any more stories like this. I feel like we're a family on here. We all need to support and help eachother during these very difficult times.
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......Feel the same way:yes:
L.O.V.E you all:D:wub::yes::better:
 
Dear All,

Thankyou for your support over the last few days. In light of the gradual closure of the Support Forum, I felt I had to say the following.

I fully support this decision. I took some time out last night to refelct on my own emotions and grief. The last few nights the support forum has been my life, I could not sleep from worry and reading some posts just made me the reality of what I have lost become even clearer.

I have an overwhelming desire to help everybody who comes in to my life, I really do, and i will continue to do so. please know that with purest heart and intention I wish that I could help each and every one you. Hold you all until the pain goes away and tell you that Michael is watching us. The truth is, as strong as I am, I forget that I have lost someone I loved dearly and when it comes back its just as painful. Sometimes helping other masks my own pain, and although that may mean selfish its not... it just means I may need to take some time to step back every now and again.

Please dont see this as me asking for your support or that Im not OK... I am fine, I am healthy and I am living life. I just need some time to concenrate on getting through my own stages of grief... and Im slowly but surely getting to acceptance.

I love you all dearly, and sincerlely hope those of you who need it will get the help they need.


For those of you who have even considered suicide for a second, please read the following. It may upset some, but I hope it is my last way of helping you all.
DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING MAY UPSET THOSE EASILY AFFECTED BY THE REALITY OF SUICIDE


10 months ago, a very very close friend of mine committed suicide by taking an overdose of the sleeping pill Eszopiclone. When he was found, He was unconcious and slowly choking on his vomit.

He was taken to an intensive care unit where he eventually came round. His liver and kidneys started to fail to such an effect that he could not stand the pain. He was in this pain for three days before they put him into a medically induced coma. Over the space of two weeks, his body slowly started to shut down before they turned off his life support machine. I was with him every day. I was with him when they turned the machine off.

I can not tell you, or even begin to explain how it felt to watch him die in pain. I will never forget the moment he left me.

Three months later, another friend of mine, a welsh actress, walked to a public open space and hanged herself from a tree. She was one of the many unlucky ones who neck did not break, she suffocated. The man who found her was so horrified by what he saw, he is now in a mental health institute.

I am sorry if i have upset you, or anyone else, with this post. But I think you need to understand the reality of what you are contemplating. Any form of suicide is horrific, and by taking an overdose you will not 'fall asleep to never wake up'. It is a horrific way to die.

I am under no illusion this post will not be deleted, and I will get a massive telling off... but if it shocks you in to thinking, the repercussions and future of my posting here are irrelevant to me.

Again, I am sorry if i have upset anyone, but people need to understand how horrific and permanent this choice is.
 
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Your post is amazing. I posted a similar list on the ''What you all need is..love'' thread. Its those little things in life that keeps you going, finding new talents, finding love, finding sunshine, waking up to a new day.. rememering.. listening.. laughing.. If you look hard enough you will find it. Ive been in a dark place too but once you come out of it life looks a hundred times more brighter than it did before you got into that place to begin with.
 
Exactly... sometimes even the smallest glimmer of light can give you hope.

For example, I was a little upset last night and wasnt great this morning. My boyfriend and I went to see his 9 month old nephew and three year neice, who are like my own family. Their love for me and pure innocence made the world a beautiful place for that hour i was with them, Just playing and laughing.

I'll tell you, when a nine month old little boy cuddles you like he needs your love to survive, it makes you realise just how precious life is... I urge everyone who has dark moments to find experiences like this... whether it be going to see your favourite play or watching the sun rise... its not the big grand moments in life that matter, but those little special moments that make life worth living.
 
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danniilee said:
Dear All,

Thankyou for your support over the last few days. In light of the gradual closure of the Support Forum, I felt I had to say the following.

I fully support this decision. I took some time out last night to refelct on my own emotions and grief. The last few nights the support forum has been my life, I could not sleep from worry and reading some posts just made me the reality of what I have lost become even clearer.

I have an overwhelming desire to help everybody who comes in to my life, I really do, and i will continue to do so. please know that with purest heart and intention I wish that I could help each and every one you. Hold you all until the pain goes away and tell you that Michael is watching us. The truth is, as strong as I am, I forget that I have lost someone I loved dearly and when it comes back its just as painful. Sometimes helping other masks my own pain, and although that may mean selfish its not... it just means I may need to take some time to step back every now and again.

Please dont see this as me asking for your support or that Im not OK... I am fine, I am healthy and I am living life. I just need some time to concenrate on getting through my own stages of grief... and Im slowly but surely getting to acceptance.

I love you all dearly, and sincerlely hope those of you who need it will get the help they need.


For those of you who have even considered suicide for a second, please read the following. It may upset some, but I hope it is my last way of helping you all.
DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING MAY UPSET THOSE EASILY AFFECTED BY THE REALITY OF SUICIDE


10 months ago, a very very close friend of mine committed suicide by taking an overdose of the sleeping pill Eszopiclone. When he was found, He was unconcious and slowly choking on his vomit.

He was taken to an intensive care unit where he eventually came round. His liver and kidneys started to fail to such an effect that he could not stand the pain. He was in this pain for three days before they put him into a medically induced coma. Over the space of two weeks, his body slowly started to shut down before they turned off his life support machine. I was with him every day. I was with him when they turned the machine off.

I can not tell you, or even begin to explain how it felt to watch him die in pain. I will never forget the moment he left me.

Three months later, another friend of mine, a welsh actress, walked to a public open space and hanged herself from a tree. She was one of the many unlucky ones who neck did not break, she suffocated. The man who found her was so horrified by what he saw, he is now in a mental health institute.

I am sorry if i have upset you, or anyone else, with this post. But I think you need to understand the reality of what you are contemplating. Any form of suicide is horrific, and by taking an overdose you will not 'fall asleep to never wake up'. It is a horrific way to die.

I am under no illusion this post will not be deleted, and I will get a massive telling off... but if it shocks you in to thinking, the repercussions and future of my posting here are irrelevant to me.

Again, I am sorry if i have upset anyone, but people need to understand how horrific and permanent this choice is.
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I can fully understand your pain about your friend with the pills....for me...it was my sister...her choice was alcohol....I too watched her die for 10 days.....I am so sorry about your pain...this is all I can say.....I must sign off now the pain to too great for me I will be back later...:)
 
I'm documenting all this in my mind. This is literally incredible. Never have I seen such amazing display of hope, determination and love.

Michael does indeed have all the best fans in the world. How admirable. Truthfully.
Simply amazing. Wow.

*standing ovation* :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Never give up your soul!
 
Please, everyone, realize that the entire Support Forum really IS closing. Outside date is this coming Wednesday, but it could be as soon as Monday. Some posters here are organizing a Facebook page, for comfort and support. The FB will not be MJJC affiliated, but would be a way for those who choose to, to continue conversations. If anyone here has expertise setting up FB, please assist with this. The thread is here:

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=81534

Please do this asap if you want to continue to offer support in a group/conversation setting. Once the Support Forum is taken down, it would be much harder to assemble a group, so I hope those who wish to continue conversations will do this, SOON. Thanks.

love,

Vic
 
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