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That was actually a very good performing Neyo did.
Like Rita said, he sings it with passion. Great :)
 
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shiiit. Ne-Yo's been arrested for reckless driving without a valid license.
 
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Re: EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Neyo - Lady In My Life (BET Honors)

He did a very good job :D I really enjoyed it, and the public looked like they were in Wonderland, lol. Especially Alicia.

Cutting it was a big mistake and a dishonouring thing from their part, if you ask me. I really don't get why they did it....
 
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Their sole intention was to use MJ as a ratings draw. There was no real reason for honouring MJ, if there were they would have gone ahead with it. He could have had someone accept it on his behalf, or he could have done a video acceptance speach like he did in france. They wanted to be the first show MJ appeared on. I bet both Bet and the grammy's were fighting over him. He couldn't do both, so he decided to do none.
These people do fight over celebs apearance. Had MJ appeared at the Bet awards, his impact on the grammys would have been diminished. Both awards wanted him to be the first since you know what and I have no doubt they threatened him with sanctions, so he decided no to attend either.
 
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Datsymay said:
Their sole intention was to use MJ as a ratings draw. There was no real reason for honouring MJ, if there were they would have gone ahead with it.
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come on, that's a bit cynical when we don't know what may have happened. and unless camp MJ for some reason asked to pull it altogether, i can actually understand an awards show canceling when the recipient wouldn't be there to be a part of his own tribute. Ne-Yo pointed this out when he "wished Mike would have been there in the crowds".

but a mention of some sorts would have been appropriate. it seemed like a complete snub when both Grammys and BET didn't at least recognise the anniversary, especially the Grammys.

but no harm done and a really nice performance by Ne-Yo, btw.
 
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arXter said:
come on, that's a bit cynical when we don't know what may have happened. and unless camp MJ for some reason asked to pull it altogether, i can actually understand an awards show canceling when the recipient wouldn't be there to be a part of his own tribute. Ne-Yo pointed this out when he "wished Mike would have been there in the crowds".

but a mention of some sorts would have been appropriate. it seemed like a complete snub when both Grammys and BET didn't at least recognise the anniversary, especially the Grammys.

but no harm done and a really nice performance by Ne-Yo, btw.
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This isn't cynical. This is history. MJ was threatened with sanctions in the 80's when 2 awards show fought for his presence and he was told that he couldn't attend both. It was either one or the other. I think there was a big feud between the grammy's and the ama. I think MJ attended the ama and the grammy's have ever forgiven him. All of this is politics., MJ is the biggest draw on tv. MJ turning up on his first awards show since the trial and his first appearance on US tv is massive news. I imagine the backstage bickering that went on. Use your imagination and then multiply it by 10. MJ said that the music industry is full of sharks and charletons, we have seen enough to know he isn't lying.
 
The performance wasn't bad, it wasn't really good either. That was nice of Ne-Yo to do it. Though it showed his obvious limitations as a vocalist and it came across as somewhat contrived due to him trying to copy Michael's vocal verbatum.

BET sucks for cutting it. That's low and show's they're no better then the Grammies in requiering Michael to be there in order for them to honor him. Same old tired sh*t. They won't do anything for Michael, despite all he's already done for that network especially over the years unless he does something more for them.
 
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Thanks for the link! I think Ne-Yo did a nice job. He didn't over sing it.
 
Well it makes perfect sense to me if they cut it, because like I said in an earlier post it didn't make sense if this is an honors show and they have people to honor, why would they throw Neyo in there to sing a Michael song. If they were honoring Michael that would be different.

Also I don't think BET used Michael at all. I never once saw anything about a tribute to Michael on their site. What we heard was from the Sony site (I think) and they pulled it off the site a long time ago. Plans change that's all.

I'm sure we'll see Michael soon :wub:
 
Thank you! That was wonderful Ne Yo! I love that song. I could just see Michael singing it. :wub: :)
 
AllTheLovelyFlowers said:
There is nothing fishy going on here. What is going on here is that these awards shows are aware that Michael and Sony are celebrating the 25th anniversary of Thriller so they made offers to Michael to appear on their shows to be honored for the album....not because they care so much about Michael......but because they wanted to capitalize on his success....get ratings for their shows. At least that is how I feel about the motives of the Grammies. As far as Debra Lee goes....I believe this woman genuinely admires Michael and would have been very excited to have him on her show. But Michael declined their offers because he wants his first performance to be highly anticipated and linked to his new music. This is exactly what i think is going on here. Michael is not ready to get on a stage. He is saving everything for the new album.

Can you imagine the excitement that is gonna go on next year when Michael appears on the Grammies, BET, his tv special he is planning and anywheres else he wants to appear? It is gonna be spectacular.
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you are sooooooo right...

all the cussing, fussing and frustration..ain't changing Michael.. he''ll perform when he is ready ...
 
jilliebean said:
Well it makes perfect sense to me if they cut it, because like I said in an earlier post it didn't make sense if this is an honors show and they have people to honor, why would they throw Neyo in there to sing a Michael song. If they were honoring Michael that would be different.

Also I don't think BET used Michael at all. I never once saw anything about a tribute to Michael on their site. What we heard was from the Sony site (I think) and they pulled it off the site a long time ago. Plans change that's all.

I'm sure we'll see Michael soon :wub:
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Yeah that was Sony doing that, lol.
 
AllTheLovelyFlowers said:
There is nothing fishy going on here. What is going on here is that these awards shows are aware that Michael and Sony are celebrating the 25th anniversary of Thriller so they made offers to Michael to appear on their shows to be honored for the album....not because they care so much about Michael......but because they wanted to capitalize on his success....get ratings for their shows. At least that is how I feel about the motives of the Grammies. As far as Debra Lee goes....I believe this woman genuinely admires Michael and would have been very excited to have him on her show. But Michael declined their offers because he wants his first performance to be highly anticipated and linked to his new music. This is exactly what i think is going on here. Michael is not ready to get on a stage. He is saving everything for the new album.

Can you imagine the excitement that is gonna go on next year when Michael appears on the Grammies, BET, his tv special he is planning and anywheres else he wants to appear? It is gonna be spectacular.
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I Soooo Agree with u:lol: seriously, These award shows have been low on ratings since MJ Stopped going there. yah i know i know, Last nights performance was good, but it would have been EVEN GREATER if Michael was there. but the thing is, MICHAEL Does What MICHAEL Wants and Nobody's gonna tell him wat 2 do. so when he is ready 2 comeout, then they wont have a choice but to say YESSSSSSSSSS 2 him!!!:D Mike we're rooting 4 u!!!:punk: BLOW our MINDS Away!!!:punk::punk::punk:
 
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Datsymay said:
Their sole intention was to use MJ as a ratings draw. There was no real reason for honouring MJ, if there were they would have gone ahead with it.
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Ah...what do you mean, there was no real reason to honor MJ? MJ just released T25...a celebration of the biggest selling album of all time. THAT is a reason to honor him. And if he would have shown up, BET would have done just that.
 
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Datsymay said:
This isn't cynical. This is history. MJ was threatened with sanctions in the 80's when 2 awards show fought for his presence and he was told that he couldn't attend both. It was either one or the other. I think there was a big feud between the grammy's and the ama. I think MJ attended the ama and the grammy's have ever forgiven him. All of this is politics., MJ is the biggest draw on tv. MJ turning up on his first awards show since the trial and his first appearance on US tv is massive news. I imagine the backstage bickering that went on. Use your imagination and then multiply it by 10. MJ said that the music industry is full of sharks and charletons, we have seen enough to know he isn't lying.
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If the Grammies were showing some type of grudge against Michael for that, they wouldn't have been trying to get him on their show. That incident was not in Michael's control. It was a feud between Grammies and AMA.
 
great version by ne yo love hearing the music to that song performed live. gives it a whole new lease of life. now if mj sang it live ...............
 
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AllTheLovelyFlowers said:
Ah...what do you mean, there was no real reason to honor MJ? MJ just released T25...a celebration of the biggest selling album of all time. THAT is a reason to honor him. And if he would have shown up, BET would have done just that.
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Well, MJ deserved to be honoured, but Bet had no reason to do the honour, or they would have, even without MJ's presence. I could find lots of reasons to honour MJ. Unfortunately, the only reason that Bet could find was ratings related. They should not have scrapped Ne-yo's performance. He tried very hard and probably would have wished for MJ to see his performance on tv, even if he wasn't there. That must have been devastating for Ne-yo, no wonder the poor guy got arrested for speeding so soon after.:)
 
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BET had every right to scrap the performance from the tv airing because Michael, unlike the other honorees....and for whatever reason.....DID NOT SHOW UP! It would not have been fair to the other honorees for Michael to be honored absent his body while the others gave the common courtesy to the BET show by showing up. And I think Michael knows this. He is not stupid. I doubt very seriously if Michael would have wanted Debra Lee and BET to make some sort of exception for him in this manner.

Face it, when these award shows join up with these celebrities, BOTH PARTIES get a benefit. The award show gets the ratings and the celebrity gets the free exposure/promo. That is the way it is. The only time I ever see a star get an award without being present is when the star is somewheres performing or on tour and the Grammies gives them an award. This is understandable. But if you are gonna be given a special award or honored in some special way, then you had better be there or be dead in your grave. It would be like Tina Turner not showing up for the Kennedy Center Honors and she is still alive. I have yet to see some honored by the Kennedys, the NAACP, the Stellar or the BET awards with something special and they don't show up. There is usually a good reason if they are given a regular award for their current music and that is usually because they are out on tour.

Truth of the matter is, these people....Alicia Keys, Maxine Waters and the rest knew a long time ago that they were receiving this honor so they had the time to plan for it. So did Michael. And I don't think that Michael's was the same as theirs because Alicia got the entertainer award. I think that Michael's honor was a "special" honor for Thriller's success. Like the Grammies gives that special award they have to a legend or something like that. Michael was the special honoree of the night. But he did not show. And so BET had to cut it out. But Ne-Yo was more than happy to still perform his LIML rendition. I also think that the original T25 tribute included more people than Ne-Yo but they cut after finding out that Michael would not attend.
 
at the end of the day mj not attending doesnt give them ratings so they decide to pull it. that can be taken as BET etc being bitchy to mj and only wanting him for ratings or pulling cause he didnt show and they are annoyed. some could say mj knows the game so thats why he doesnt show cause its all about the ratings and if its a real tribute they will do it regardless of him being there or not. does pulling the tributes show a motive on the awards shows behalf that its just about getting him there in person to get ratings and not really caring about a tribute hence it gets pulled when he doesnt show?
 
Just like Michael has his own interest, BET has their own interest as well. And both parties have a right to protect their own interest.

Let me ask yall a question. Yall keep saying things like, "if BET really cared about Michael, they would have shown the tribute anyway.....they just wanted to use him for ratings..."

DO YOU THINK THAT MICHAEL CARES ABOUT BET'S RATINGS?

If you can say that BET didn't care about Michael and that all they wanted were ratings, I can turn that around and say that Michael didn't care about BET either and didn't show up to help their ratings.

We are doing all of this fussing, but I betcha that there are absolutely no hard feelings between Debra Lee and Michael Jackson. I betcha any money Michael will show up on BET next year and tear the house down for his friend Debra Lee. Watch.
 
I think that Michael will only perform for new songs and will only appear for new material. Michael is not and old glory, I think that this is what he has in mind.

He handles this business. Let's give this man a brake, let's wait and see.
 
Maceo said:
I think that Michael will only perform for new songs and will only appear for new material. Michael is not and old glory, I think that this is what he has in mind.

He handles this business. Let's give this man a brake, let's wait and see.
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I agree. The next time we see Michael performing on stage, we will hear new music and see new dance moves. And that is the way I think it should be because I don't want to see another Billie Jean performance nor another Thriller performance. Unless it is done as a medley in a tour. I betcha Michael himself is tired of doing the same thing over and over again.

We fans say that we don't like it when critics act like all Mike has done is Thriller. Yet we get mad when Michael has a chance to perform and doesn't. The more Mike performs this old stuff, the more people are gonna associate him with it. He needs to release something new and add to his already amazing legacy. He needs to start the final run of his career with new stuff.
 
yeah i don't know why people always freak out over things like this.
like many have said If someone doesn't show up to an award show they're being honored at why in the world would they air it? that makes no sense. Why should Michael get such preferential treatment over other artists like that? No matter how amazing Michael is that's just how things are. It makes BET look pathetic and desperate if they air something like that and the honoree isn't there. I've never seen anyone air anything if the person they're honoring isn't there. It's not that award shows have a vendetta against him. if that were the case they wouldn't have even wanted to honor him in the first place.

I wouldn't expect Michael to even really care that they didn't air it. I think he knew they wouldn't air it. He's been in the business long enough to know how things work. If I were Michael and making my big debut after something as difficult as he went through I wouldn't want to go out there rehashing old material. I would want to go out there with a bang with new material and show people i've still got it after all these years.

So i think we should all be patient and wait to see all of the amazing things to come. the fact that he hasn't been seen performing or anything in so long just makes it all the more exciting when he finally does decide to go out there and perform his heart out.
 
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The thing that makes me CERTAIN that mj knows what hes doing and that hes handling his business with all this....HIS EGO. MJ is not gonna leave off his career with a damaging trial and sabotaged invincible. Heeelll no. Mike aint goin out like that. LOL
 
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