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March 24, 2008: MJ News and Mentionings

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1. March 25th, 2008 | 11:23 amLogan
To be very honest…
Even if you don’t like the man.
Even if you feel that he is a lousy human being.
You CANNOT, absolutely CANNOT deny his amazing God given talent.
He has MORE talent in his PINKIE that the WHOLE of the music business has right now.
And I’m not just saying this because I’m a fan. Do your reading. Check out the HEIGHTS his career went to…they were unprecedented.
As a music artist I feel he is very much UNDER APPRECIATED.
His music was amazing with many complex layers working together in concert to produce a beautiful sound. Just listen to the complexity of Billie Jean…all those layers. His song was one of the first to do that…way back in the 80’s and they’re STILL doing it now.
His dancing was fluid, smooth and precise…he SANG his music with his body.
Just watch how all will mourn him when he his gone, even the ones who bad-mouthed him the most.
There will NEVER EVER be anyone of his talent and star magnitude again…and even if there is, he/she won’t be able to go where MJ went before.
You don’t have to love the man, heck you don’t even have to like him…just don’t ignore his music.
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thats so unbelievably stupid so i wont even bother to make a comment on that .....
 
tell me about it...totally taking the p!ss. I suppose this is just a case of when the tabloids get bored going after MJ they go after his family....maybe aina few months they'll all just forget about these ludicrous claims.
 
Actually, I think that but was addressing the haters and naysayers. It was not an attack on MJ at all. In fact it ws giving Mj very high praise.
 
Datsymay said:
Actually, I think that but was addressing the haters and naysayers. It was not an attack on MJ at all. In fact it ws giving Mj very high praise.
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i just hate it when ppl praise the artist while trashing the person as i am mostly fan of michael jackson the human being. only the phrase "watch how they will mourn him when hes gone especially the haters" is pure stupidity cuz they talk like michael is a 90 year old and the haters are 10 year olds....the basic message is: "love the artist even though u hate the person" which is so damn stupid. i wouldnt like to see ppl who hate him with a passion to dance to thriller and sing his songs. michael has put his heart and soul into his songs and to listen to childhood and think hes a pedo is pathetic to say the least
 
Roxanne said:
i just hate it when ppl praise the artist while trashing the person as i am mostly fan of michael jackson the human being. only the phrase "watch how they will mourn him when hes gone especially the haters" is pure stupidity cuz they talk like michael is a 90 year old and the haters are 10 year olds....the basic message is: "love the artist even though u hate the person" which is so damn stupid. i wouldnt like to see ppl who hate him with a passion to dance to thriller and sing his songs. michael has put his heart and soul into his songs and to listen to childhood and think hes a pedo is pathetic to say the least
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I read the article myself. I am very sensitive about writers dissing MJ. I usually do not even finish reading the article as soon as there is any sign of disrespect. I really did not find any in this article. The writer addressed the haters who like to diss MJ and said even if they do not like him, they cannot deny his talent. I thought it was a very nice article.:D
 
I think the responses in that thread is veerry promising!

Hell, I don't care if they don't like MJ as a person. I don't think there's a way for people to get out of their mindsets about MJ as a person...i think they're engraved in those that are set in what they've been fed over the last 20 years. But EVER IF they don't like MJ as a person the fact they still are INTERESTED in him, that they want to SEE MORE of him speaks volumes. It shows he's still relevant. And that his talent and music overrides all the BS.
 
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J5master said:
I think the responses in that thread is veerry promising!

Hell, I don't care if they don't like MJ as a person. I don't think there's a way for people to get out of their mindsets about MJ as a person...i think they're engraved in those that are set in what they've been fed over the last 20 years. But EVER IF they don't like MJ as a person the fact they still are INTERESTED in him, that they want to SEE MORE of him speaks volumes. It shows he's still relevant. And that his talent and music overrides all the BS.
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^ ^ ^ What she said!
 
J5master said:
I think the responses in that thread is veerry promising!

Hell, I don't care if they don't like MJ as a person. I don't think there's a way for people to get out of their mindsets about MJ as a person...i think they're engraved in those that are set in what they've been fed over the last 20 years. But EVER IF they don't like MJ as a person the fact they still are INTERESTED in him, that they want to SEE MORE of him speaks volumes. It shows he's still relevant. And that his talent and music overrides all the BS.
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I think if you can find a crack in their mind you can get in and start to change it. How they feel about Michael's music is that crack. It will take time but I think a lot, not all but a lot, of attitudes will change with time. It supposedly takes ten positive things you hear to offset every negative but with the testimonials and a shift in what the media says just as hearing a lie enough times makes people think it is the truth, hearing the truth enough times will make them believe that.
 
^ maybe. But i think the fact that the focus is shifting on music is a good sign..and a good move in general on MJ's part.
 
J5master said:
^ maybe. But i think the fact that the focus is shifting on music is a good sign..and a good move in general on MJ's part.
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Oh for sure. I DO agree with you and have said similiar things many times.
 
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u cant hate/strongly dislike a person yet listen to their music. i cant even conceive that.
to not like him/support him etc yet like his music that i can understand. that i dont mind.
as for the opposite which is very rarely seen i have no problem whatsoever.
i have a friend who doesnt like his music (cuz shes not into that kind of music) yet she loves him and supports him as a person and finds him sexy etc. she always asks me about him when we meet :p
 
Most of the time I don't think people strongly dislike or hate him. I think they just don't 'like' him based on what they hear about him. I don't really 'like' Justin Timberlake but I listen to his music. LOL
 
Roxanne said:
u cant hate/strongly dislike a person yet listen to their music. i cant even conceive that.
to not like him/support him etc yet like his music that i can understand. that i dont mind.
as for the opposite which is very rarely seen i have no problem whatsoever.
i have a friend who doesnt like his music (cuz shes not into that kind of music) yet she loves him and supports him as a person and finds him sexy etc. she always asks me about him when we meet :p
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It is possible not to like someones lifestyle yet like there music. i don't believe the article was asking people to like his music, even. I believe it was telling people to RECOGNISE and appreciate his music because it is the best.
 
I don't think these people hate Michael. How could you? He's the nicest person, he really is, and everyone who knows him or meets him says so.

I think it's just a safe-comment to make. 'Well I don't know about him as a person, but he sure is talented.' They don't mean that. They just don't want to be stoned for saying they love him as a person as well. It's like all the kids on the playground see the bully picking on the smallest kid (Michael) and instead of trying to help that kid, they just join in with the bully because they don't want to be on the recieving end of those blows too. They conform and do what the bully does because they're afraid.

Listen, I've never seen a more genuinely good person then Michael and it makes me mad when people insult him as a human being. It's WRONG. Becaue it's his person that makes him special, just as much as his talent, if not more. So people should respect him. He respects everybody, so why shouldn't he be awarded the same treatment? People just fail to realize what an incredible person Michael is because they don't hear him, but only hear what they're told about him and what to think about him and how to react to him. It's an unfortunate condition which society grinds in to people over time.

If they ever actually opened their ears and heard Michael, I KNOW they would fall in love with the man. It's just a matter of getting them to listen.
 
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Murdoch is paul McCartneys very close friend.His papers have refused to write anything positive on MJ.
 
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Datsymay said:
Mudoch is paul McCartneys very close friend.His papers have refused to write anything positive on MJ.
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I would find it hard to believe the articles are because of Macca. Murdock is into power and money IMO and not suppurting 'freinds'.
 
eternitys_child said:
I would find it hard to believe the articles are because of Macca. Murdock is into power and money IMO and not suppurting 'freinds'.
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I am sure money has a lot to do with it, but we have seen how vicious Beatles fans can be towards MJ, why would he not use his power to attack the man who bought the beatles catalogue if he is a beatles fan, esp if he is best friend with the main man. We see what he did to Heather.,^_^
 
Rasta Pasta said:
on the Steve Harvey Morning show today they mentioned that Dileo stated that he did not make those statements in the NY Post article on the Jacksons... they said... "the quotes were made up".. Steve said.. "I never believed that story.. because I spoke to Marlon awhile back .. I talked to him from his studio/his home..and he was talking about projects he is involved with..so I know that story was not true.. and I hate things like this.. because the guy who lied in that article can just go on with his life and you the celeb can not do anything... I think their should be a rule that a celebrity can ***** slap anyone that writes lies about them like that..."
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I LOVE YOU, STEVE!! Man! I wished I heard that this morning! I was soooo busy with work today that I missed most of the show. Thank you Rasta for posting this.

We knew it!! LOL. I agree with Steve on that rule. If there was a petition for have the rule, I will be the first one to sign it. It is time for the family to kick that bastard ass. I liked the fact that they are reporting the retraction from Frank. I wonder if Inside Edition did the same thing...... LOL.
 
I read part of the article that people on here are talking about and I am sorry but how can you dislike someone that youd o not even know? A person that has done nothing to you? I never understood that. I mean, it is not MJ's fault that people believe the lies about him. I did not bother reading most of the comments because it was coming out of ignorance rather than facts. How is MJ lousy? Lousy is the media, not some pop star that did not ask to be trashed because he did things his own way. I like the fact that they focused on the talent but they can't hate on someone based on what was said about them. That is not right. That is like liking JT's music but disliking him for some reason even though he personally did not do anything to you.

I was thinking, can Stacy Brown get sued for doing what he did to Frank? I thought what Frank said was not enough of a statement of denial. It was more of Frank basically accusing Stacy of putting words in his mouth.
 
Bee1983 said:
I read part of the article that people on here are talking about and I am sorry but how can you dislike someone that youd o not even know? A person that has done nothing to you? I never understood that. I mean, it is not MJ's fault that people believe the lies about him. I did not bother reading most of the comments because it was coming out of ignorance rather than facts. How is MJ lousy? Lousy is the media, not some pop star that did not ask to be trashed because he did things his own way. I like the fact that they focused on the talent but they can't hate on someone based on what was said about them. That is not right. That is like liking JT's music but disliking him for some reason even though he personally did not do anything to you.

I was thinking, can Stacy Brown get sued for doing what he did to Frank? I thought what Frank said was not enough of a statement of denial. It was more of Frank basically accusing Stacy of putting words in his mouth.
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Frank was not very clear in his denial. he said he did not speak to but he left it open for interpretation when he said thaat that was probably 30 years ago.. :)
 
Bee1983 said:
I read part of the article that people on here are talking about and I am sorry but how can you dislike someone that youd o not even know? A person that has done nothing to you? I never understood that. I mean, it is not MJ's fault that people believe the lies about him. I did not bother reading most of the comments because it was coming out of ignorance rather than facts. How is MJ lousy? Lousy is the media, not some pop star that did not ask to be trashed because he did things his own way. I like the fact that they focused on the talent but they can't hate on someone based on what was said about them. That is not right. That is like liking JT's music but disliking him for some reason even though he personally did not do anything to you.

I was thinking, can Stacy Brown get sued for doing what he did to Frank? I thought what Frank said was not enough of a statement of denial. It was more of Frank basically accusing Stacy of putting words in his mouth.
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Man. There were 8 replies in there and all were raving about Michael. I didn't cut any comments out. They were all there. NOONE who replied said THEY thought Michael was a lousy human being. The one person who said that was trying to get the people who have formed their opinions based on what the media has told them, to listen. You don't approach people who you believe might not agree with you by immediately centering on the thing you differ on. (Well, I know you do although you are learning. lol ) You find some common ground and hope they will shift some of their other thoughts later. Music was the common ground.

I am just so pleased at how comments from people have already shifted over the last 2 years. Give it a chance.
 
Datsymay said:
Frank was not very clear in his denial. he said he did not speak to but he left it open for interpretation when he said thaat that was probably 30 years ago.. :)
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And not to bash Frank but he turned around and said Stacy said it was Bob Jones who said it instead of just saying "I never said that". Why even bother relating that they were on the phone together. It just wasn't well done. It was like he was going out of his way not to diss Stacy while also protecting himself. I think Frank didn't mean any harm, it just wasn't well done.
 
eternitys_child said:
And not to bash Frank but he turned around and said Stacy said it was Bob Jones who said it instead of just saying "I never said that". Why even bother relating that they were on the phone together. It just wasn't well done. It was like he was going out of his way not to diss Stacy while also protecting himself. I think Frank didn't mean any harm, it just wasn't well done.
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Yes, indeed. He was denying that he spoke to Stacey but not exactly denying that he spoke to Bob, There is something fishy about this. I can't help feeling that someone wants a reunion more than the jacksons do, and are puting the pressure on for it. Mj gets all the blame for his brothers misfortune and MJ may sit up and pay attention. As I have said before, many times things are said on the media but the messenger is not speaking to the public, they have their audience that they hope will listen. Maybe MJ isn't picking up the phone or listening right now and some people are speaking to him through the media. maybe Frank.:)
 
frank denied he spoke to brown and said that end of.
 
speaking to bob ? below is what he said seems ppl are not getting what frank said. he denied he said that to brown and brown then says whoops it was actually bob jones that said that quote not frank.

DiLeo was quoted as saying: "Michael was not going to work with the family again. He was concerned only about building his legacy. He had to be bigger than Elvis."

But DiLeo tells us he never made that statement. Furthermore, he contacted the article's co-writer, Stacy Brown, to complain. According to DiLeo, Brown said the quote was meant to be attributed to Bob Jones, MiJac's former director of communications and the author of "Michael Jackson: The Man Behind the Mask."

DiLeo told EUR: "Stacy Brown called because he wanted me to speak at the University of - somewhere up there [in NY] - and I told him I lived in Nashville and I wasn't able to do it, and that was the end of it. He said, 'How are things going,' I said, 'Fine.' We talked about our business in Nashville."

Next thing DiLeo knows, he's being quoted in the New York Post regarding Michael Jackson.

"And I don’t know what [Brown] got into with Bob Jones or whatever, but I'm not a part of that whole crew," he said. "I never make statements and I don't make any comments. Why they put my name in that and where they got it from – it could've been something from 30 years ago, for all I know."
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elusive moonwalker said:
speaking to bob ? below is what he said seems ppl are not getting what frank said. he denied he said that to brown and brown then says whoops it was actually bob jones that said that quote not frank.
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Thanks Elusive...that is what I got from the article.....frank stated he didn't make the comment at all.........and brown confirms it.....I think people are reading to much into frank's last statement....
 
thanks im not the only one lol ppl look to pick apart things way to much
 
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