A message from one of Michael's techs on TII

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This message was posted on another forum that I belong to yesterday.

"Hi,

My name is jhon. I will spare a second name as i do not want any lawsuits brought against me by AEG or any company affiliated with them.

I worked as part of the technical team on Michaels This is it production.

Firstly let me just say, Michael was a good man, i bare him no ill will or malice, but the reason for this posting is for a few simple reasons--I am publicly not permitted to talk about any aspect of the this is it production. Everyone who worked on that has been told not to give any kind of public statement, only officials or people who are granted permission by AEG are allowed to discuss publicly about the production. People who are allowed are the obvious ones, such as directors(Kenny etc.) Dancers, a few people from production(set, costume designers), musical director etc, the dancers etc...

Understand this...everything that is being said by these people has been vetted and checked. They are told which details to reveal.

MY main anger and point of this article is 3 main things, that i witnessed but did not see in the dvd movie(that my nephew purchased)

1. Many of the vocals used in this is it movie are not the vocals i heard. Please hear me out.
I heard Michael sing ALL of his songs without playback, in the rehearsals we NEVER USE PLAYBACK. When i was younger and starting out i got a job on Michaels earlier tour in 1991. I worked as a junior in productions, and i witnessed 2 rehearsal sessions.--there was no playback, even though when he had taken the show out of rehearsals and onto the road there was a playback. I am sure you can find rehearsals from an earlier tour on the INTERNET--just look into it-he never uses playback on rehearsals-it is pointless because there is no audience .
Basically from my experience with Michael, he never uses playback in rehearsals.--it is a waste, as there is no audience.

I am unhappy that Kenny did not show Michaels real voice on a few songs.

2. My second problem is that some performances from Michael has been left out. He turned up for around 3 rehearsals a week, out of a 6 day week. And in the end had done around 4 full rehearsals before june 25th.

How it worked was like this---Michael spent time learning the moves with his choreographer, and would come in and rehearse with the dancers on average 1-2 times a week, the 3rd day when he was at rehersals he looked into productions and had costume fittings etc.. When Michael was absent there would be a double, just to step in(so the dancers could rehearse). I blatantly saw this double in the movie, in the Smooth criminal performance. You see, that background(with the towers and building)was fully completed after his death. Any footage of him in-front of those building in smooth criminal is not him, HOWEVER IT IS MICHAEL WHEN THE BACKGROUND IS WHITE. That particular scene was confusing, as they mixed the 2 footages together-the footage of the buildings is used with a Michael step in( a double), and when he is in-front of a white screen that is him.-confusing but watch that scene again and you will know what i mean.--it is him when he says POW and he is in front of a WHITE screen, BUT IT IS THE DOUBLE WHEN HE IS IN-FRONT OF A 3D BACKGROUND OF BUILDINGS.

Other performances that, after researching it, has been denied. MICHAEL did perform dirty Diana--it was a masterpiece.---granted Michael did not sound all that good, it was only rehearsal.--he did it twice. The set up was excellent.---why AEG are denying it had taken place i do not know.

We are the world was also performed, and heal the world and a few others.

iNFACT IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH ON THE INTERNET YOU WILL FIND FANS THAT HAVE RECORDED HIM PERFORMING DIRTY DIANA(ON THERE PHONES OUTSIDE STAPLE CENTRE), BUT KENNY HAS DENIED THAT HE PERFORMED IT.

I just wanted to let you guys, the real fans, that there is the real footage out there somewhere and one day you will hopefully get to see it.

3. MY third problem with the movie is it did not address the health concerns that we all saw. Not the thinness, Michael, if my memory serves me well has always been thin-this was not a problem. The problems that i saw, was basically Michael had some problem with his feet. After his rehearsal with the dancers, he would usually be in a great deal of pain, from his feet. I don't know if any one can shed some light on this, but someone on set said his skin on his feel tears easily and has become very sensitive-after years of putting them to use i guessed-this is why Michaels dancers were going to do a large number of the heavy routines, with Michael only participating in a few dance routines(such as beat it the way you make me feel), the rest of the time he would be just walking around stage, filling the room with his presence

He was also in great pain from his back. Although this is not in the movie, but on days that Michael was not there randy, don't know his second name but from my understanding at the time, he was the man who was funding this elaborate show, randy was always talking to Kenny about Michaels and his worries about him not completing 50. Randy and Kenny were talking a lot, and made alot of plans in-case his health fails, Randy also hired a doctor for Michael.

Kenny, as instructed by Randy, always made sure the camera's were rolling on the days mj turned up for rehearsals, although he denies this, but these film footages were made as a guarantee, that if something happened he would have something get his investment back on. I don't know if you fans know this, or whether it is common knowledge or not, but Kenny and Randy are cousins(i think distant)

In fact we were all told that if we saw Michael and his entourage we were to send word to Kenny immediately so as he could instruct the camera men to film.


Well i have said my peace...

My message to Michael----Michael you were being subjected to games and spin for most of the latter years of your life, i don't know if you were aware of it, but it continued until the day you died....i hope you have finally found the rest that you deserve.

I have given this page of my final words on the issue of Michael to a friend, who will find the best place to place this piece of writing.

I hope it gives all who read an insight.

Eternal peace and god bless you all."
 
Hmmm, maybe you should post this in the This Is It section too as it's about the film?
 
I am all teary.. sure, we can't certify any of this, but God we have a sense that it's all true... i know, Michael was played, used and maybe, God knows, maybe killed by those people just so they can make money out of him..
this is so disturbing...
 
I am having a bit of a hard time believing in reports that someone posted somewhere ... JMHO
 
I'm inclined to believe this anonymous poster. I never believed that MJ recommended murray to be his personal physician. I don't believe they knew each other or knew each other well before murray was hired.
 
There's no validity to this, it only plays into innuendo and rumors that have circulated since the beginning. Anyone could have written this. Please be careful with seeing something as true, despite the fact that it plays on thoughts and suspicions you might have yourself.
 
I'm not one of the Karen fans, but I do find some things she says interesting. Someone posted this on her FB and she did say that a lot of it is false, but some things were true. And as man.in.the.mirror said, the fans that recorded Dirty Diana were not at Staples center.
 
I am not sure whether this testimony has already been posted, it was all over boards in October, but maybe it is worth examining again and comapring.

http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/386957

Yesterday I had the amazing chance to speak to someone who worked on This Is It. This person has worked with Michael in the past, I've seen him before on TV close to Michael, and I also saw him in the movie and his name appears at the end. He is here in Miami on vacation with family and a good friend of mine knows him. I begged him to let me meet him and he was the sweetest person, and he loved Michael.

He gave me the ok to share with you what he told me, however with the condition that I would name provide his name. He is under contract with AEG/Sony and is only allowed to officially talk good about the movie and the concert. As he told me "hey, I also gotta pay my bills, so I have to do what they say."

However, at the same time he told me to "share with fans what I said, because it is important that some things are known."

He has great respect and admiration for Michael and has known him for over 20 years.

Here's the most important things he told me:


- Michael has always been a very sweet, humble person, since the first time they met 20 years ago, however he noticed that during these reharsals, he looked even more humble than usual, to the point that he actually felt Michael was incredibly insecure this time around, he saw him very vulnerable and everyone automatically tried to make him feel ok, everyone wanted to bring the spark in him that old Michael Jackson had. According to this person a combination of the 2005 trial and the long absence from the spotlight made Michael feel very insecure.

- Michael did not get along at all with Randy Phillips. Everyone knew it, even Phillips knew it. Phillips had a very arrogant way of dealing with Michael, he was terrified that Michael would not get ready for the shows and AEG would lose a lot of money. According to this person, Phillips made it clear to several people that these concerts had to happen, no matter what, because he "had to personally convince everyone at AEG that this was a good deal" therefore his job was at risk if anything went wrong. On many occasions Phillips would go to Michael's house with Ortega and Travis Payne whenever Michael would not show up. At times they would come back with him, at times no. The official explanations to the crew was "Michael is not feeling well today," "Michael reharsed at home" or "Michael is reharsing with his vocal coach."
At first the crew believed it, but after a few weeks everyone started realizing something was up because even though Ortega and Payne would say everything was fine, it was obvious that they were very frustrated and nervous, and there were several heated discussions between Ortega, Phillips and Payne,
but what exactly was being discussed was not clear since they always ade sure they would be far enough for anyone to hear. During these conversations one of them would always be on a cellphone, and then the would pass it aroud to themselves. This person believes they were talking to Michael.

- Michael, and this is shown in the movie, did not want to wear the ear monitors. As this person told me, "look at any footage from Michael in concerts in the past, and you will never find him wearing ear monitors, he did not like them, did not need them." According to him, Ortega got upset at one time at Michael, and in front of everyone told him "you have to undrstand that here you do not have an option, you have to wear them, this is going to be a closed arena, not an open stadium, and the sound is different." http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/386957
Interestingly, yesterday Karen Faye wrote on her facebook that Michael always complained to her that he did not like ear monitors, and asked her to tell Ortega. According to her, she did and Ortega told her "well, he has to wear them!"

-This is very interesting. According to this person, there was absolutely no way the concert was going to be ready for opening night on July 13th, and everyone kenw it. He asked me the following "when you saw the movie, you do realize right that they had to show the best scenes, the best performances, right ?" I said "yes, of course" to which he replied "so do you realize that what you have seen, most of it came from June 24th, 23rd and 22nd ? Based on what you saw, did it feel as if everything was going to be ready in 2 weeks ?" He said that Michael did not have his clothes ready, and that there was "pathetic" @#$%$ing around from different stylists that were trying to come up with ideas. But nothing was ready, no clothes, not even for the dancers. Michael wanted Michael Bush, but Travis Payne brought in that Zaldy guy, and AEG was behind Zaldy, rather than Michael Bush.
The opening number for the concert was only done on the computer, just like we saw in the movie. It was never reharsed, and the robot that Michael would have come out from was not ever ready. Also the closing of the show was just a concept.

He also confirmed that they never had a full reharsal. In other words, they never practiced the whole concert, it would always be a few songs on several days, but it was never put all together, therefore they were laso very concerned that once everything was gonna put together, it would take much longer that the 2 hours orgnally planned. This was going to be a huge problem for AEG and the O2 arena, because of an agreement they had with time. Also, Michael did not want to have long shows, for obvious reasons.
Also, they never reharsed with implementing the videos for Smooth, Thriller and Earth as we saw in the movie, those were edited in the movie, but they never reharsed using them, and it was still unclear how they would be used with the songs, especially Smooth Criminal.

-For the most part, Michael looked well, however this person did unfortunately confirm to me that there were days that something was "wrong" and everybody knew it. He worked with Michael in the past and Michael never wore sunglasses while reharsing the dark like that, especially since Michael in the past would always want to see how the lights looked and for that reason did not like using shades. But he said "don't expect them to talk about it on tv of course, same with me, I won't and I can't." He said that at first everybody thought Michael was just eccentric and stuff, especially the dancers, they were just excited to see him, but he said for those who knew him for many years, including him, started realizing alarming signs.

However, he said, this just shows how vulnerable Michael was and he does not like how people associate this behavior with something negative. He said "he went through so much poor thing, I perfectly understand why this was happening." Oh and btw, he said that some of the crew members started checking TMZ with their IPHONES to find out whether or not Michael had seen Dr. Klein during the day. It would usually warn them on what to expect when he showed up.

-Michael had fun when performing, it appeared as if it was what he needed, however off stage Michael did no look happy, he rarely interacted with the crew, other than Karen Faye and at times with Michael Bush. According to this person, Michael stayed as far as he could from Ortega, Payne and Phillips off stage, because he always felt he was being chased by them to do more, perform more and give more. He said that the crew in general felt Ortega was being too demanding, especially when it was obvious nothing was ready on time. But they mostly felt Ortega was being pressured by Phillips, and that it was Phillips who was just going crazy because was in a position of losing everything with these shows.

-The day after the news came out that some fans claimed Michael told them he did not want to do 50 concerts, everyone was instructed not to talk to anybody from the media, not to let in anyone who was not authorized to attend reahrsals, especially fans[/b]. When Michael came in that day, the atmosphere was tense and he did not look happy at all. Before working that day, Phillips and Ortega met with Michael and, interestingly, with his bodyguards. They spoke for about 20 minutes, but once again this person could not hear what was being said. However everyone had the feeling Michael indeed did not want to do 50 shows and believed Michael did talk to those fans.


This is pretty much it. This guy said that it is a shame that Michael died while being extremely stressed out. He said that a lot of pressure was put on Michael, but the truth is that the concerts were not going to be ready not because of him, but because the there was simply not enough time to acocmplish all they had planned. He said he is sure Michael would have been 100% ready by July 13th, because "he did those songs hundreds of times before during his career, he knew exaclty what to do" but everything else around was not ready.

He also says he personally felt Michael sometimes did not show up because he knew things were moving slowly and sort of felt disappointed. He was a perfectionist, and when things were obviosuly not going in the right direction, he would get frustrated and sort of lose interest, instead of becoming upset at someone. Yet they made him believe it was him, that things were moving slowly because of him. But this person told me that Michael had nothing to do with all the technical stuff, like lightings, fireworks etc, therefore it was not his fault, but he was the easy target.

According to him, if the concerts were not goint to be ready, it would have been easier for AEG to blame it on Michael, than blame themsleves and their lack of timing skills.


Once again, do not ask me for his name, I will never tell, not even via PM. He was brutally honest with me and I will honor his request.

A lot of things make sense now, especially the concerts not being ready based on what we saw in the movie. No way in two weeks they were going to be ready. Also, he said, don't forget that a lot of days would have been lost during the move to London and setting up the stage there and get adjusted to the arena.


This is very sad, especially to think that Michael was somehow made feel responsible for this.
 
The OP seems like it comes from a fan.

I have also seen evidence that Michael did the bulk of his rehearsal on the 23 and 24 June.

The Exif data from TII shows that most of the rehearsals were done on the 24 June.
 
The OP seems like it comes from a fan.

I have also seen evidence that Michael did the bulk of his rehearsal on the 23 and 24 June.

The Exif data from TII shows that most of the rehearsals were done on the 24 June.

the ones signed by Kevin Maur from getty images?
Getty Images also covered the memorial (at least as one of the agencies)
 
I DO believe this! AEG has done their work well to shut up anyone on that production.
Even if some of them come forward like this person, they are unable to say who they are out of FEAR, so they are not believed.

Fear is a control tool that has been used on the masses since the dawn of time! When we are able to give up our fear in favor of the truth, the world may have a shot at being a better place!
 
One day the truth will come out somehow and you will have to believe it, we are working hard on it, really hard to expose them all.
 
This message was posted on another forum that I belong to yesterday.

"Hi,

My name is jhon. I will spare a second name as i do not want any lawsuits brought against me by AEG or any company affiliated with them.

I worked as part of the technical team on Michaels This is it production.

Firstly let me just say, Michael was a good man, i bare him no ill will or malice, but the reason for this posting is for a few simple reasons--I am publicly not permitted to talk about any aspect of the this is it production. Everyone who worked on that has been told not to give any kind of public statement, only officials or people who are granted permission by AEG are allowed to discuss publicly about the production. People who are allowed are the obvious ones, such as directors(Kenny etc.) Dancers, a few people from production(set, costume designers), musical director etc, the dancers etc...

Understand this...everything that is being said by these people has been vetted and checked. They are told which details to reveal.

MY main anger and point of this article is 3 main things, that i witnessed but did not see in the dvd movie(that my nephew purchased)

1. Many of the vocals used in this is it movie are not the vocals i heard. Please hear me out.
I heard Michael sing ALL of his songs without playback, in the rehearsals we NEVER USE PLAYBACK. When i was younger and starting out i got a job on Michaels earlier tour in 1991. I worked as a junior in productions, and i witnessed 2 rehearsal sessions.--there was no playback, even though when he had taken the show out of rehearsals and onto the road there was a playback. I am sure you can find rehearsals from an earlier tour on the INTERNET--just look into it-he never uses playback on rehearsals-it is pointless because there is no audience .
Basically from my experience with Michael, he never uses playback in rehearsals.--it is a waste, as there is no audience.

I am unhappy that Kenny did not show Michaels real voice on a few songs.

2. My second problem is that some performances from Michael has been left out. He turned up for around 3 rehearsals a week, out of a 6 day week. And in the end had done around 4 full rehearsals before june 25th.

How it worked was like this---Michael spent time learning the moves with his choreographer, and would come in and rehearse with the dancers on average 1-2 times a week, the 3rd day when he was at rehersals he looked into productions and had costume fittings etc.. When Michael was absent there would be a double, just to step in(so the dancers could rehearse). I blatantly saw this double in the movie, in the Smooth criminal performance. You see, that background(with the towers and building)was fully completed after his death. Any footage of him in-front of those building in smooth criminal is not him, HOWEVER IT IS MICHAEL WHEN THE BACKGROUND IS WHITE. That particular scene was confusing, as they mixed the 2 footages together-the footage of the buildings is used with a Michael step in( a double), and when he is in-front of a white screen that is him.-confusing but watch that scene again and you will know what i mean.--it is him when he says POW and he is in front of a WHITE screen, BUT IT IS THE DOUBLE WHEN HE IS IN-FRONT OF A 3D BACKGROUND OF BUILDINGS.

Other performances that, after researching it, has been denied. MICHAEL did perform dirty Diana--it was a masterpiece.---granted Michael did not sound all that good, it was only rehearsal.--he did it twice. The set up was excellent.---why AEG are denying it had taken place i do not know.

We are the world was also performed, and heal the world and a few others.

iNFACT IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH ON THE INTERNET YOU WILL FIND FANS THAT HAVE RECORDED HIM PERFORMING DIRTY DIANA(ON THERE PHONES OUTSIDE STAPLE CENTRE), BUT KENNY HAS DENIED THAT HE PERFORMED IT.

I just wanted to let you guys, the real fans, that there is the real footage out there somewhere and one day you will hopefully get to see it.

3. MY third problem with the movie is it did not address the health concerns that we all saw. Not the thinness, Michael, if my memory serves me well has always been thin-this was not a problem. The problems that i saw, was basically Michael had some problem with his feet. After his rehearsal with the dancers, he would usually be in a great deal of pain, from his feet. I don't know if any one can shed some light on this, but someone on set said his skin on his feel tears easily and has become very sensitive-after years of putting them to use i guessed-this is why Michaels dancers were going to do a large number of the heavy routines, with Michael only participating in a few dance routines(such as beat it the way you make me feel), the rest of the time he would be just walking around stage, filling the room with his presence

He was also in great pain from his back. Although this is not in the movie, but on days that Michael was not there randy, don't know his second name but from my understanding at the time, he was the man who was funding this elaborate show, randy was always talking to Kenny about Michaels and his worries about him not completing 50. Randy and Kenny were talking a lot, and made alot of plans in-case his health fails, Randy also hired a doctor for Michael.

Kenny, as instructed by Randy, always made sure the camera's were rolling on the days mj turned up for rehearsals, although he denies this, but these film footages were made as a guarantee, that if something happened he would have something get his investment back on. I don't know if you fans know this, or whether it is common knowledge or not, but Kenny and Randy are cousins(i think distant)

In fact we were all told that if we saw Michael and his entourage we were to send word to Kenny immediately so as he could instruct the camera men to film.


Well i have said my peace...

My message to Michael----Michael you were being subjected to games and spin for most of the latter years of your life, i don't know if you were aware of it, but it continued until the day you died....i hope you have finally found the rest that you deserve.

I have given this page of my final words on the issue of Michael to a friend, who will find the best place to place this piece of writing.

I hope it gives all who read an insight.

Eternal peace and god bless you all."

:puke:This makes me sad & pissed off!:no:
Can't the ones that are trying to keep all the others that are being told to say the truth be brough in as witnesses for the prosicution of this does go to trail? If so, I hope that it happens. They have to bring in the ones that are telling us the truth. The prosicuation should also bring in the follower fans as well.
 
Didn't Michael Bearden slip up and admit that MJ rehearsed Dirty Diana too?

And about the doubles, yes there were doubles...I just didn't know the double would rehearse when MJ wasn't there, especially for the small stage portion of smooth criminal?

Guess Joe was right about that afterall.

I remember a Sony exec confirming the story of MJ having Dancer's feet from dancing so much to the point of the skin cracking and bleeding...imagine how much worse it would have been for him considering he was aging.

If you couldn't see that Michael was in PAIN and frustrated with the fact that he was in PAIN then I don't know what to tell you honestly.

Breaks my heart to read things like this. They pushed our Michael to the ultimate point and now they refuse to admit it.

No matter what I try, I will never trust these people. I don't know how others are able to do it.

Of course its nice to have footage of Michael doing what he loves but I would give all of that up and more just to have him breathe the same air as I'm breathing now.

I wouldn't care if he never performed again, at least he'd be here. He's worked his whole life, he didn't have to be subject to 50 daunting shows now. Michael should have been here enjoying the fruit of his works and the joy of watching his children grow, like everyone else.
 
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No words...everytime I hear these things which confirm what I know, it brings it back to me...and I never in my life hated anyone...I don't want to start now..I just want him back, or at least some kind of justice and closure :(
 
Didn't Michael Bearden slip up and admit that MJ rehearsed Dirty Diana too?

And about the doubles, yes there were doubles...I just didn't know the double would rehearse when MJ wasn't there, especially for the small stage portion of smooth criminal?

Guess Joe was right about that afterall.

I remember a Sony exec confirming the story of MJ having Dancer's feet from dancing so much to the point of the skin cracking and bleeding...imagine how much worse it would have been for him considering he was aging.

If you couldn't see that Michael was in PAIN and frustrated with the fact that he was in PAIN then I don't know what to tell you honestly.

Breaks my heart to read things like this. They pushed our Michael to the ultimate point and now they refuse to admit it.

No matter what I try, I will never trust these people. I don't know how others are able to do it.

Of course its nice to have footage of Michael doing what he loves but I would give all of that up and more just to have him breathe the same air as I'm breathing now.

I wouldn't care if he never performed again, at least he'd be here. He's worked his whole life, he didn't have to be subject to 50 daunting shows now. Michael should have been here enjoying the fruit of his works and the joy of watching his children grow, like everyone else.

Yes! He should of been here with his kids doing what ever he wanted!
He wanted to make movies and he would have been great at it!! He made the best music videos ever made! No one can match what he did. His movie's would have been wonderful! We are all missing out on his gift! The whole world is missing out because a group of businessmen got greedy! They have to pay for this! The truth needs to come out!
 
Yes! He should of been here with his kids doing what ever he wanted!
He wanted to make movies and he would have been great at it!! He made the best music videos ever made! No one can match what he did. His movie's would have been wonderful! We are all missing out on his gift! The whole world is missing out because a group of businessmen got greedy! They have to pay for this! The truth needs to come out!

What a great post! Thank you.

Somebody was laughing at me and at some other fans who believe in conspiracy theories. I could sense this since July and I have posted many times on this board that AEG killed Michael. I do not understand how come that some fans do not see a problem with TII movie? It is so obvious that MJ was not happy, he was very depressed, Kenny’s behavior was odd etc. AEG put the best footage in this movie but it appears very clear that something was not right there. I posted my opinion about TII to another thread in IU and I have to admit that many my concerns are proven by this insider’s story. I think this story is true. Personally I believe it.
 
I DO believe this! AEG has done their work well to shut up anyone on that production.
Even if some of them come forward like this person, they are unable to say who they are out of FEAR, so they are not believed.

Fear is a control tool that has been used on the masses since the dawn of time! When we are able to give up our fear in favor of the truth, the world may have a shot at being a better place!

Exactly, great post.
 
No words...everytime I hear these things which confirm what I know, it brings it back to me...and I never in my life hated anyone...I don't want to start now..I just want him back, or at least some kind of justice and closure :(
i feel just like you,
 
What a great post! Thank you.

Somebody was laughing at me and at some other fans who believe in conspiracy theories. I could sense this since July and I have posted many times on this board that AEG killed Michael. I do not understand how come that some fans do not see a problem with TII movie? It is so obvious that MJ was not happy, he was very depressed, Kenny’s behavior was odd etc. AEG put the best footage in this movie but it appears very clear that something was not right there. I posted my opinion about TII to another thread in IU and I have to admit that many my concerns are proven by this insider’s story. I think this story is true. Personally I believe it.
I am with you this is a great post. I also believe in conspiracy theories but I don't like to use the words "conspiracy theory".
To say you "believe" in something means it could be true or it might not but it's what you "believe" it's what your heart, mind or your gut tells you (a gut feeling) or "intuition". A "theory" again means it might be true or it might not someone has to prove it's true.
I believe in and want the "truth" the real truth.

I read Kenny Ortega is related to Randy Phillips they are some sort of cousins but I don't know if this is true?
I also read that Randy Phillips is related to Dr. Tohme Tohme by marriage they are ex-brother in laws but I don't know if this is true?
The behaviour of Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega and Travis Payne has been very suspicious.
Some think Randy Phillips is the instigator he bullied Michael Jackson and so did Tohme Tohme.

It would seem a group of conspirators did get together to conspire against Michael Jackson to bring him down for what ever reason does anyone else have any thoughts on this??
La Toya Jackson, Joe Jackson and Jermaine Jackson have all been talking about a conspiracy. I think Randy Jackson has also been talking about a conspiracy.
Michael Jackson himself said there was a conspiracy against him.
It's always good to 'connect the dots' and see how people are connected to each other.
 
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I hope that this person is able to testify in court, under oath. That is the only way we will really KNOW.

Exactly.
People have already started wondering if this testimonial is genuine and trustworthy.
The confidentiality agreement these people signed with AEG should not be above the requirement for testimonial in a murder case!
 
Exactly.
People have already started wondering if this testimonial is genuine and trustworthy.
The confidentiality agreement these people signed with AEG should not be above the requirement for testimonial in a murder case!
Maybe they are scared of 'AEG Live'?? Scared for their life.
 
What a great post! Thank you.

Somebody was laughing at me and at some other fans who believe in conspiracy theories. I could sense this since July and I have posted many times on this board that AEG killed Michael. I do not understand how come that some fans do not see a problem with TII movie? It is so obvious that MJ was not happy, he was very depressed, Kenny’s behavior was odd etc. AEG put the best footage in this movie but it appears very clear that something was not right there. I posted my opinion about TII to another thread in IU and I have to admit that many my concerns are proven by this insider’s story. I think this story is true. Personally I believe it.

What Firpo Carr said: Many believe that charging Murray should be the tip of the iceberg. They're convinced that powerful transnational forces conspired not only to murdered Michael, but are now making untold millions in profit dollars in the post-Jackson era. Since a conspiracy implies organization, the perpetrators are perceived by many fans to be organized criminals. Collusion between various parties-even criminal organizations-is indeed a serious charge.

If, in fact, investigators are proceeding as if an extravagant conspiracy is involved, it would explain why it has taken so long, and also may well suggest that more arrests are in the offing. Still, the public is usually in the dark when it comes to the "intricacies of clandestine criminal conspiracies". As one authoritative work puts it: "The disadvantage of a conspiracy includes the long-term commitment to gather evidence, which is likely to be manpower-intensive. In major investigations, extensive surveillance is conducted and testimony of witnesses needs to be verified and corroborated, which often requires overtime and manpower. Multiple venues often pose political and logistical problems." And, of course, not just any law enforcement officer can effectively conduct an investigation. The same work reveals: "The investigator must be well trained in [specialized] methods and also be allowed time and resources to conduct such complex and long term cases."

There are two types of criminal conspiracies, ongoing and chain. As its name implies, an ongoing conspiracy is one that exists simultaneously while it is being investigated. A chain conspiracy is when all co-conspirators are connected, but only certain ones interact with certain others. This effectively provides layers of protection for key figures behind criminal activities-particularly those who hide behind legitimate businesses. Still, prosecutors are enamored with conspiracy cases as these relate to organized criminal activity. Why? "Conspiracy cases allow prosecution of leaders of organized crime groups even when they attempt to insulate themselves with subordinates, or when they remain in a foreign country, never entering the United States where the objective of the conspiracy is reached." Here are another 10 other reasons (there are more) why prosecutors favor conspiracy charges:

1. Conspirators don't have to know each other.

2. Each is responsible for the actions of the others.

3. Each is an agent for each other.

4. Conspirators don't have to know the actions of others.

5. Any action that carries out the objective of the conspiracy is an overt act.

6. Overt acts don't have to be criminal acts.

7. Overt acts need not be known by all participants.

8. Any act or statement by one conspirator can be used against all.

9. A statute of limitations applies and varies between states.

10. Evidence against one defendant is evidence against all.
 
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