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[Maria MJ]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

becasue alberto prob thought he was collecting the meds so they could take them to the hospital thats what normally happens unless u are murray

Oh c'mon now...when you collect the meds to take them to the hospital,you take them to the hospital, you don't store them in a closet before the paramedics arrive!
I'd keep them out there for them to see!!

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

last time I checked this was the case section can ya'll take the conspiracy to the conspiracy section please? Thanks a bunch :flowers:

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Oh c'mon now...when you collect the meds to take them to the hospital,you take them to the hospital, you don't store them in a closet before the paramedics arrive!
I'd keep them out there for them to see!!

yeah thats what happened afterwards. im talking about when murray first told him to collect them and put them in the bag. u do that as u presume they will be taken to the hospital and franakly alberto didnt know what mj had been given. he prob thought he was protecting his boss incase it was anything dodgy

and yeah please take your accusations of calling alberto a murderer to the conspraicy section. i guess faheem will be accused next. :smilerolleyes:

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

well done jacksons aka randy. if murray gets off u can blame yourself and you greed to control the j3

Jackson Bodyguard Fired Because of 'Criminal Past'
Leave a CommentBy PopEater Staff Posted Mar 30th 2010 05:30PM

The bodyguard who called 911 the day Michael Jackson died was fired late last week by the singer's family. Now, we know why. A close friend of the Jacksons tells PopEater exclusively that Alberto Alvarez was let go Friday after they discovered he had a criminal record and no longer felt he should be near the family's large brood of children.

Alvarez had worked at the Jackson family compound since the legendary singer's death last June, but recently "there was something off about him."

As the AP first reported, Alvarez told the LAPD two months after Jackson's death that Dr. Conrad Murray stopped CPR on the singer in order to hide vials of Propofol, the powerful sedative. He also claimed Murray instructed him to help pick fallen drug bottles off the floor before medics arrived. Immediately after Jackson's death, Alvarez said nothing of the sort to investigators.

Joe Jackson then confronted Alvarez about his changing story; he was preparing a wrongful death suit against Murray and wanted to know exactly what happened the day his son died. Jackson wanted to know if his initial story was an attempt to cover up crucial evidence to shield Murray.

Irked by his behavior, the family decided to look into Alvarez's background and what they allegedly found was disturbing.

"When he started changing his stories, the estate decided to check him out," the family friend tells us. "He not only had a DUI, there was a domestic violence dispute on his record. Someone had filed a domestic complaint against Alvarez, and he also had a DUI arrest."

Since Alvarez was hired by Michael Jackson and was there during the final moments of his life, the family did not think twice about his background and certainly "didn't know he had a criminal past."

However, they concluded that Alvarez was "not someone the Jackson family would have employed around the Jackson children. The estate had not other choice but to let Alberto Alvarez go."

Joe Jackson is in the process of suing Murray, whom he also believes waited too long to get his son to the hospital.

"I want justice for my son, that's all I want, justice," Jackson told PopEater after news of the lawsuit broke on Monday. "There's a hearing for Dr. Murray in April, and I will be going. Dr. Murray needs to talk, and tell everything he knows. All I want is justice for my son's death."

http://www.popeater.com/2010/03/30/alberto...kson-bodyguard/

 

[clarac]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

well done jacksons aka randy. if murray gets off u can blame yourself and you greed to control the j3

Jackson Bodyguard Fired Because of 'Criminal Past'
Leave a CommentBy PopEater Staff Posted Mar 30th 2010 05:30PM

The bodyguard who called 911 the day Michael Jackson died was fired late last week by the singer's family. Now, we know why. A close friend of the Jacksons tells PopEater exclusively that Alberto Alvarez was let go Friday after they discovered he had a criminal record and no longer felt he should be near the family's large brood of children.

Alvarez had worked at the Jackson family compound since the legendary singer's death last June, but recently "there was something off about him."

As the AP first reported, Alvarez told the LAPD two months after Jackson's death that Dr. Conrad Murray stopped CPR on the singer in order to hide vials of Propofol, the powerful sedative. He also claimed Murray instructed him to help pick fallen drug bottles off the floor before medics arrived. Immediately after Jackson's death, Alvarez said nothing of the sort to investigators.

Joe Jackson then confronted Alvarez about his changing story; he was preparing a wrongful death suit against Murray and wanted to know exactly what happened the day his son died. Jackson wanted to know if his initial story was an attempt to cover up crucial evidence to shield Murray.

Irked by his behavior, the family decided to look into Alvarez's background and what they allegedly found was disturbing.

"When he started changing his stories, the estate decided to check him out," the family friend tells us. "He not only had a DUI, there was a domestic violence dispute on his record. Someone had filed a domestic complaint against Alvarez, and he also had a DUI arrest."

Since Alvarez was hired by Michael Jackson and was there during the final moments of his life, the family did not think twice about his background and certainly "didn't know he had a criminal past."

However, they concluded that Alvarez was "not someone the Jackson family would have employed around the Jackson children. The estate had not other choice but to let Alberto Alvarez go."

Joe Jackson is in the process of suing Murray, whom he also believes waited too long to get his son to the hospital.

"I want justice for my son, that's all I want, justice," Jackson told PopEater after news of the lawsuit broke on Monday. "There's a hearing for Dr. Murray in April, and I will be going. Dr. Murray needs to talk, and tell everything he knows. All I want is justice for my son's death."

http://www.popeater.com/2010/03/30/alberto...kson-bodyguard/

So they are getting rid and discrediting of one of the main witnesses who can potentially send Murrey to jail..I can't believe it..not only they are helping his defence but if the doctor is found not guilty Joe can say his only $$ goodbye.Are they kidding?
Not only this but they suspect him to be the one who HELPED the doctor...well the defence would have found out this anyway so better now at this point.
"not someone the Jackson family would have employed around the Jackson children"
So the kids should never ever be around Joe either following this logic.

 

[Ashtanga]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

well done jacksons aka randy. if murray gets off u can blame yourself and you greed to control the j3

Jackson Bodyguard Fired Because of 'Criminal Past'
Leave a CommentBy PopEater Staff Posted Mar 30th 2010 05:30PM

The bodyguard who called 911 the day Michael Jackson died was fired late last week by the singer's family. Now, we know why. A close friend of the Jacksons tells PopEater exclusively that Alberto Alvarez was let go Friday after they discovered he had a criminal record and no longer felt he should be near the family's large brood of children.

Alvarez had worked at the Jackson family compound since the legendary singer's death last June, but recently "there was something off about him."

As the AP first reported, Alvarez told the LAPD two months after Jackson's death that Dr. Conrad Murray stopped CPR on the singer in order to hide vials of Propofol, the powerful sedative. He also claimed Murray instructed him to help pick fallen drug bottles off the floor before medics arrived. Immediately after Jackson's death, Alvarez said nothing of the sort to investigators.

Joe Jackson then confronted Alvarez about his changing story; he was preparing a wrongful death suit against Murray and wanted to know exactly what happened the day his son died. Jackson wanted to know if his initial story was an attempt to cover up crucial evidence to shield Murray.

Irked by his behavior, the family decided to look into Alvarez's background and what they allegedly found was disturbing.

"When he started changing his stories, the estate decided to check him out," the family friend tells us. "He not only had a DUI, there was a domestic violence dispute on his record. Someone had filed a domestic complaint against Alvarez, and he also had a DUI arrest."

Since Alvarez was hired by Michael Jackson and was there during the final moments of his life, the family did not think twice about his background and certainly "didn't know he had a criminal past."

However, they concluded that Alvarez was "not someone the Jackson family would have employed around the Jackson children. The estate had not other choice but to let Alberto Alvarez go."

Joe Jackson is in the process of suing Murray, whom he also believes waited too long to get his son to the hospital.

"I want justice for my son, that's all I want, justice," Jackson told PopEater after news of the lawsuit broke on Monday. "There's a hearing for Dr. Murray in April, and I will be going. Dr. Murray needs to talk, and tell everything he knows. All I want is justice for my son's death."

http://www.popeater.com/2010/03/30/alberto...kson-bodyguard/

:doh:

So..............

Mean that Michael hired without first investigate/verify if Alberto Alvarez had a criminal record in the past? :doh:

Interesting... :smilerolleyes:

I smell a lie about it. This makes no sense. :bugeyed

 

[JMie]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

in any case, it's good this info surfaces now, so it won't come out as a surprise during the trial. but even if he has a DUI records, it doesn't mean he lied about June 25.

 

[Maria MJ]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

I'm not accusing Alvarez. I'm trying to make some sense here, but I'm afraid it's so unbelievable, that this 2nd statement will be discredited.
Murray instructed him to put the meds in a bag AND hide them in the closet, right?
How naive must one be to do that?
Was the timing right to clear the scene?
A man was dying or was already dead, who would care about storing stuff?

If I was Alvarez, if anyone was in Alvarez' shoes I believe would say:
Forget the stupid drugs, I'll pack them later, save the man!!

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Mean that Michael hired without first investigate/verify if Alberto Alvarez had a criminal record in the past? :doh:

sadly mj had a history of that. hence all the sleeze balls that got into his life

 

[Rockin.]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Yup he was interviewed only in September according to Radar -

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-lapd-interview-michael-jackson-witnesses

well done jacksons aka randy. if murray gets off u can blame yourself and you greed to control the j3

I don't see how the story you posted about why Alverez was fired can help Murray get off or 'control' Prince, Paris or Blanket? I don't understand.

The article even says -

Jackson wanted to know if his initial story was an attempt to cover up crucial evidence to shield Murray.

..hows that get Murray off? Surely thats actually indicating more bad stuff about Murray?

I don't think Alverez is a bad person. He had been protecting Michael and the children for quite a while.

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

sorry thats fasle. they were fired in the evening of the 25th.

Sorry you're wrong. LaToya said that Michael Amir told her (after Michael died) that all the staff were fired around midnight (around the time they all came home from last rehearsal).

its because they werent fired.its been stated numerous times they were told to go the evening/night of the 25th

That doesnt make any sense as Michael was already dead by then.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

So they are getting rid and discrediting of one of the main witnesses who can potentially send Murrey to jail..I can't believe it..not only they are helping his defence but if the doctor is found not guilty Joe can say his only $$ goodbye.Are they kidding?
Not only this but they suspect him to be the one who HELPED the doctor...well the defence would have found out this anyway so better now at this point.
"not someone the Jackson family would have employed around the Jackson children"
So the kids should never ever be around Joe either following this logic.

in an ideal world Michael would be here to take care of his hildren himself, in an ideal world people of the likes of randy, joe and many others playing mind games wouldn't be anywhere near those kids. I wish Michael would've left those greedy ppl something maybe then they would have left those kids alone instead of trying to isolate them from other people outside the family. on seconds thoughts greedy folks remain greedy no matter how much u give him. pls lord make those three grow up ASAP

 

[MarielovesMJ]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Can't they charge the bodyguard with evidence tampering or something like disposing evidence since he help that doc hide stuff?

 

[mj_smile]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Yup he was interviewed only in September according to Radar -

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-lapd-interview-michael-jackson-witnesses

(....)

Sorry Rockin., but I disagree with your researching ..

It ^^ was the second article: Posted on Sep 01, 2009 @ 09:03PM

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The public pressure on the LAPD thru the first article (below) will have helped:

Posted on Aug 26, 2009 @ 05:28PM

EXCLUSIVE: Witnesses Not Interviewed Because Only 3 LAPD
Detectives Assigned to Jackson Case, Says Source

One reason why Los Angeles police have yet to interview Michael
Jackson's security guard and chief of staff is because only three
detectives are assigned to the case, a source close to the situation
tells RadarOnline.com.

"There are only three detectives from LAPD's Robbery Homicide Division
assigned to the case," the source said. "This is one of the reasons the
investigation is still ongoing at this point."

Alberto Alvarez, who made the 911 call the day Michael died, has not
been interviewed by police. Alvarez, a security officer, could be
crucial to establishing the time line of events as police focus on
Dr. Conrad Murray.

Murray administered various drugs and propofol to Jackson, who stopped breathing when
the doctor left the room. Officials say Jackson died from a propofol overdose.
Michael Amir, described as the King of Pop's chief of staff, also has
not been interviewed by police.

Alvarez and Amir are both represented by attorney Carl Douglas,
who told the Los Angeles Times: "We arranged two separate
occasions for LAPD investigators to meet with my clients. My clients
came early wearing suits and ties. The first meeting was canceled
and rescheduled. The second meeting I had to call them to inquire
about the [detectives'] absence."

Establishing a solid timeline of events is crucial if police are going to make a case
against Murray, whose attorneys are already disputing the authorities' version of
when events happened. Douglas did not return calls for comment.


Source: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...iewed-because-only-3-lapd-detectives-assigned

 

[mj_smile]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

(..)I don't see how the story you posted about why Alverez was fired can help Murray get off or 'control' Prince, Paris or Blanket? I don't understand. (..)

Quote: "well done jacksons aka randy. if murray gets off u can blame yourself and you greed to control the j3"

I'll try to interpret, what elusive could have meant (I hope, I'm not entirely wrong *g*):

1.) the most important witness for the prosecutor, the bodyguard, was fired, this could help Murrays defence team = the family of the victim don't trust him,
why should anybody else trust him?

2.) Randy Jackson is assumed to be the source for TMZ etc., when the bodyguard has been fired (they protected the children in Holby Hills and before), then
Randy and the others (one of them is Joe) could have control (more) about the children ...

***

btw. Randy wrote on his twitter site: I'm not the source or someting like that

I don't believe it, whatever, someone in this household must be the one!

 

[kasume]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Im sure the cops would be interested and would have all the time in the world for Alvarez if he told them straight away that Murray asked him to hide drugs before calling 911 just a few hours prior. Also Tohme fired all the staff and bodyguards 12hrs prior according to Brother Michael Amir who called LaToya and told her. So why was Alvarez still there when he was fired? He apparently arrived after 10am. He should have been sent home straight away if all the staff where fired. Same with Kai Chase. Her story doesnt ring true especially now after the new info. Sitting in the kitchen all praying is too perfect. This isnt Gone In The Wind.

And then within the week that Alvarez is rehired, there is the stun gun incident.

First of all, THOME HAD NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING!!!

I remember hearing someone say that Thome got angry at a meeting when he found out he was fired by Michael, or because he was fired.

Oh, and you said 12 hours prior that Thome fired them? Prior to what?

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

First of all, THOME HAD NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING!!!

I remember hearing someone say that Thome got angry at a meeting when he found out he was fired by Michael, or because he was fired.

Oh, and you said 12 hours prior that Thome fired them? Prior to what?

Thats right Tohme was fired by then and yet there he is introducing Jermaine at UCLA and telling media no questions. So old manager Tohme is there dealing with Press while new manager is doing what behind the scenes? Why was Tohme up there instead of Dileo?

LaToya said Michael Amir (Brother Michael) told her that Tohme fired all the staff the night of last rehearsal, 12hrs prior to MJs cardiac arrest. And yet Chase, Alavarez and a few others where still there. Chase's story doesnt coincide with new info Alvarez gave (and all praying sounds too perfect), Alvarez had plenty of time to tell cops this important info of hiding drugs but didnt until later.


Randy said via twitter he wasnt TMZ & DFCS insider but mentioned "her". Its believed that "her" is Grace who was first fired by Jacksons. And now Alvarez.

 

[Ashtanga]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

sadly mj had a history of that. hence all the sleeze balls that got into his life

Oh, Michael was not careful and rigid to recruit employees. Principally securities that would protect Michael and their children. So, he hired any one person. :doh:

I'll pretend that believe this story. :yes:

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

sadly mj had a history of that. hence all the sleeze balls that got into his life

Sadly you're right. Michael had so many charlatans in his life, he has always trusted the wrong people.

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

I'm not accusing Alvarez. I'm trying to make some sense here, but I'm afraid it's so unbelievable, that this 2nd statement will be discredited.
Murray instructed him to put the meds in a bag AND hide them in the closet, right?
How naive must one be to do that?
Was the timing right to clear the scene?
A man was dying or was already dead, who would care about storing stuff?

If I was Alvarez, if anyone was in Alvarez' shoes I believe would say:
Forget the stupid drugs, I'll pack them later, save the man!!

No Murray told him to put them in a bag he even told them what kind of bad and the color it was. He never said he told him to put it in a closet They found the exact bag he told him to put that stuff in. Alvarez on June 25 had no idea what was going on when he walked into Michael's room who said he had time to even think about it? And who is to say he did not do thinking he was protecting Michael maybe thought Michael had overdosed I think after the stories about Propofol began to come out he realized what he did

 

[Rockin.]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Sorry Rockin., but I disagree with your researching ..

I don't get what I'm saying thats different. All I said was he was interviewed in september, what I was saying is it took a couple months for the police to interview him.

Quote: "well done jacksons aka randy. if murray gets off u can blame yourself and you greed to control the j3"

I'll try to interpret, what elusive could have meant (I hope, I'm not entirely wrong *g*):

1.) the most important witness for the prosecutor, the bodyguard, was fired, this could help Murrays defence team = the family of the victim don't trust him,
why should anybody else trust him?

2.) Randy Jackson is assumed to be the source for TMZ etc., when the bodyguard has been fired (they protected the children in Holby Hills and before), then
Randy and the others (one of them is Joe) could have control (more) about the children ...

***

btw. Randy wrote on his twitter site: I'm not the source or someting like that

I don't believe it, whatever, someone in this household must be the one!

K thanks, now my turn lol..

1)

He was fired because of his domestic violence and DUI, whoever in the family that makes the decision - Katherine?, didn't want him around the kids because of this. I don't see why that has to do with anything to do with Murray.

2)

TMZ hinted on their live webchat that Grace is their source, and there are leaked photos and videos of the kids that are apparently came from her according to tmz and radar. There was a passed incident with her and malniks leaking photos of PP&B..the Malniks and Grace said someone hacked Grace's email..yehh. Randy also hinted about Grace on his twitter but did say he talked to tmz about the stun gun thing. I'm not sure about the whole Grace thing. I heard MJ sacked her, I heard the kids don't like her. We don't know what the truth is.

Randy doesn't live in the house, neither does Joe so I don't see how they can 'control' the kids, I don't know quite what is meant by 'controlling' them anyway, Joe isn't raising them and neither is Randy. The bodyguard doesn't have a say in how the children are raised that is down to the family anyway, Katherine principly I assume, so whether Alverez is there or not makes no difference.

 

[Rockin.]

Re: LAPD: Dr. Conrad Murray's GF Holds Secrets

Well wasn't she his girlfriend? Of course there will be numerous calls between them.

Their communication on the day of June 25th is important I agree with that.

 

[ivy]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

He was fired because of his domestic violence and DUI, whoever in the family that makes the decision - Katherine?, didn't want him around the kids because of this. I don't see why that has to do with anything to do with Murray.

just a fyi - for any witness (especially for witnesses that came up with crucial information and/or change stories etc) their credibility is questioned by the other side. (Remember how T-Mez questioned the past of the Arvizo's?)

Similarly here if/when Alvarez takes the stand the defense will try to discredit him and will say "how can you trust what this man says when he has a criminal background?". That DUI and domestic violence can affect how trustworthy his statements may be seen by the jurors.

Alvarez's (or any other witnesses) past history, personality, credibility, trustability etc will be an issue during a cross examination in the trial. I believe that's what the other posters were trying to say.

 

[mj_smile]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

Yup he was interviewed only in September according to Radar -
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...kson-witnesses

Alvarez was short interviewed in the hospital in June
[(I had copied the article - the conversation about is in another thread somewhere on here).
I thought you know that already, and so I had not posted it again.
Yeah, sorry, my fault ]

and at the end of August (between the two articles from radaronline).
September: In September it was released only by the press, the interviews have taken place earlier - 6-8 weeks after Michael has died and the inverstigation had started.
(note: the search of M. office in L.V. was also much too late!)


I guess, the LAPD were scared fo the entire case at that time:
Cal. state is broke, not enough manpower, to many authorities (LAPD, DEA, etc.) are involved, the press, the pressure that the whole world is watching them, etc.
In my opinion: the investigation should have done an offical search (idk the right word for) for Murray .. they have been made many errors.
Not to interview the entire household as soon as possible and not declar 'Holby Hills' as a crime scene, are the biggest ones.

I believe, it's not Alvarez fault to have been interrogated only in September.

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1) domestic violence?

Aren't there not more persons in that family who were accused and sentenced for the same action? :cheeky: double moral, may I say in this case.

I believe, Katherine is manipulatable (btw I like her, but she does make faults like other ppl).
She hat a long time that silly lawyer, who was representing her, and it looks like as he would represent only Joes opinion and not Katherine and the childrens interests.
Only when she took Adam Streisand and not longer strived against the state, and thus now against Joe, changed the impression.
I guess, this happens in many situations .. MJ will, Grace, the bodyguards.

I also believe, she supports her own children or former daughter-in-law or still husband.
Therefore, if anybody needs some money (or have personal interests) ..
R. and J., as examples, are not the best buisness men, if I'm not so wrong
The rest of the story is in your own believes

What you can do today, should be done, nobody lives forever or something like that *whistle*


2) I haven't heard the live chat ..

R., Gr. or A. or somebody else, i don't know, I'm not there, but: somebody must have the need to speak to tabloids.
Why?

My personal note: the first two persons have already suffered under them and now they tell the tabloids what's going on in that family/household?
As I said before, I call something like that: double moral.

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It's that difficult for me to explain such connections and thoughts in a strange language. The last 30 years I have not much to read or write in english, my knowledge date back to my schooldays *sigh* no slang, no technical words
Please be indulgent with my faults .. thanks!!

 

[mj_smile]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

just a fyi - for any witness (especially for witnesses that came up with crucial information and/or change stories etc) their credibility is questioned by the other side. (Remember how T-Mez questioned the past of the Arvizo's?)

Similarly here if/when Alvarez takes the stand the defense will try to discredit him and will say "how can you trust what this man says when he has a criminal background?". That DUI and domestic violence can affect how trustworthy his statements may be seen by the jurors.

Alvarez's (or any other witnesses) past history, personality, credibility, trustability etc will be an issue during a cross examination in the trial. I believe that's what the other posters were trying to say.

Yepp, you're absolutely right. I tried, but .. :cheeky:

Thanks a lot for your help, ivy

 

[Rockin.]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

just a fyi - for any witness (especially for witnesses that came up with crucial information and/or change stories etc) their credibility is questioned by the other side. (Remember how T-Mez questioned the past of the Arvizo's?)

Similarly here if/when Alvarez takes the stand the defense will try to discredit him and will say "how can you trust what this man says when he has a criminal background?". That DUI and domestic violence can affect how trustworthy his statements may be seen by the jurors.

Alvarez's (or any other witnesses) past history, personality, credibility, trustability etc will be an issue during a cross examination in the trial. I believe that's what the other posters were trying to say.

I get the principle, for example in the case of the Arvizo's - but that was relevant because of the things they had done in the past - lying, fraud, false accusations. I don't see how domestic violence and DUI is relevant here to Alberto testifying against Murray. By the way Murray also was arrested for domestic violence in the past, though he was acquitted.

 

[Rockin.]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

It's that difficult for me to explain such connections and thoughts in a strange language. The last 30 years I have not much to read or write in english, my knowledge date back to my schooldays *sigh* no slang, no technical words
Please be indulgent with my faults .. thanks!!

Sorry for stressing you :better: it is difficult but we tried for each other. Nevermind.

 

[ivy]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

I get the principle, for example in the case of the Arvizo's - but that was relevant because of the things they had done in the past - lying, fraud, false accusations. I don't see how domestic violence and DUI is relevant here to Alberto testifying against Murray. By the way Murray also was arrested for domestic violence in the past, though he was acquitted.

you are right, there's not a direct relevance between the two events but it does not need to be directly relevant as well. Like I said anything and everything could be used to discredit a witness. prosecution would like jurors to think that he is a good, honest, trustworthy person. At the same time by using his past criminal history, defense could portray him as not so good or trustworthy. There's no way to know how will the jurors feel or think. It is just all a possibility.

 

[mj_smile]

Re: Michael Jackson Bodyguard Fired

off topic! /

Sorry for stressing you :better: it is difficult but we tried for each other. Nevermind.

Don't worry Rockin., a little bit stress is not all too bad for a old person :shades:

Seriously, I want always just be perfect, that's stressing enough,
but when you have to watch out not to hurt someone unintentionally
or trigger an conflict out of the blue for using the wrong word
that's really a enormous load *sigh*

Major L.O.V.E to you, hun :hug:

 

[ginvid]

Re: All TMZ Stories Related to the Case *Read Post 463*

Michael Jackson -- The Eyes Have It
Posted Apr 6th 2010 3:50PM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's eyes could be powerful evidence in favor of Dr. Conrad Murray.



TMZ broke the story ... Dr. Murray's lawyers will argue Jackson accidentally killed himself by self-injecting a lethal dose of Propofol into his bloodstream. As we reported, Dr. Murray says he left the bedroom for a short time, came back in and saw Michael with his eyes wide open and pupils dilated.

Medical experts who spoke with TMZ say ... if a patient is sleeping and dies of an overdose, their eyes most likely would not be open. The defense position -- Jackson woke up when Murray was out of the room, became frustrated he couldn't sleep, grabbed the Propofol bottle and "pushed it" -- killing himself.

If a jury believes Jackson's eyes were open, they could also believe Jackson was awake and, perhaps, capable of grabbing the Propofol bottle which was on the nightstand.




Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/06/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-propofol-eyes/#ixzz0kM1KHtX2