Katherine Kicks Alejandra + Jermaine's & Randy's Kids Out

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Props to those that run this board because unlike so many other MJ boards, this board is continuing to be about MJ 1st. On other MJ sites, more and more boards are becoming more about the family than MJ. On other MJ sites half the fans fans are outraged over this news.

I *think* I know which board you mean. It's the same board where they allow paparazzi pics of Michael kids to be posted daily.

This is why i love MJJC so much. They don't allow that here and Michael has always and will always be #1. :)
 
TE=Memefan;2763354]Randy himself ran to TMZ with the stun gun story



Exactly



at times??? What about ALL the time.
Seems that a certain someone is always seeking attention...all of the time.:secret: (R) lol
 
Yeh.

I don't think it should be Oxman.

Anyway, IMO the family may be too divided on certain opinions to just have one voice speaking for all.

Streisand gave a statement after the stun gun mess didn't he.. but he seems to speak more for Katherine and the 'Hayvenhurst house' than the whole family.

Ken Sunshine's PR company is their PR but I think that's more for MJ stuff than family stuff. To be honest I don't think Sunshine, Sachs & Associates have done that much of a good job in dealing with media stories about MJ but... :mello:..I suppose its hard when certain family members say certain things. MJs own PR people didn't do a good job either really.. in fact one of them even joined in writing a craptastic book with that Brown guy :no:. MJ should have employed (non-crazy) fans. More of us have his best interests at heart than certain people who worked for him.

... sorry I blabbed off topic a bit..

You are so true!
 
It is sad and I'm surprised the daughters put it out there like they both did.

But the really sad part, to me, is that Randy rather spend his time trying to find ways to get his hands on Michael's estate, when that energy should be spent trying to rebuild his relationship with his daughters.

The child said she loves her father, which should be a clue for him to jump in there and try to repair whatever is broken in that father-daughter relationship.


I agree with everything you said but I wanted to expand on a certain point (in bold). Gen' never said it in a trashy, gossipy way or nothing like that (its not like she "put it out there" the phrase has negative connotations that I dont think are accurate in this case), she said it in a way that reflects how she feels about the matter. She's mentioned it more than once and to me its clear that she has to a certain extent accepted the relationship with her father as it is, though she has made it clear she would like something more. There is no hint of anger, or seeking of pity, just disappointment that her father has basically rejected her.

But like u said it is sad, but that's their reality. Michael was really the only one actively involved in his children's lives from the very beginning.

Just my two cents. I just wanted to make sure ya'll didn't get the wrong idea about Gen'
 
It's kinda surreal how the entire family is indeed able to sftu on something.....I guess we won't see Janet or Rebbie talking about how their other brothers failed as parents on talk shows either.
 
It's kinda surreal how the entire family is indeed able to sftu on something.....I guess we won't see Janet or Rebbie talking about how their other brothers failed as parents on talk shows either.

Exactly. This is why it's pisses me off when I see some fans on other sites praising the family for "keeping it real".
 
I *think* I know which board you mean. It's the same board where they allow paparazzi pics of Michael kids to be posted daily.

This is why i love MJJC so much. They don't allow that here and Michael has always and will always be #1. :)

Whilst we do ask that members of the Jackson family be respected, they are Michael's family after all, we are a Michael Jackson community, not a Jackson family community.

And pap photos of the kids not being allowed here is something that has always happened. Michael went out of his way to protect them from being seen by the paps, why should that change now he's not around anymore?
 
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KTLA

Michael Jackson's Mom Evicts Grandchildren

The move was prompted by the stun gun incident last month.
KTLA News

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ENCINO -- The Jackson family compound in Encino is undergoing a downsizing of sorts -- at least as far as Katherine Jackson's grandchildren are concerned.

The family matriarch is cleaning house, asking four of her own grandchildren to move out of her Encino mansion.

A family spokesperson, who didn't want to be identified, told KTLA that Katherine has asked Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza, who lives at the estate with two of her children with Randy Jackson and two with Jermaine Jackson, to leave the compound within the next week.

Katherine has arranged for Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte and Randy Jr. to move to a nearby condo owned by the estate. Michalel's children, Prince Michael, Paris and Blanket will continue to live at the estate.

The move was prompted by the stun gun incident last month and comes at the request of the Department of Children and Family Services, according to the family spokesperson.

13-year-old Jaafar Jackson recently bought a stun gun online. Sources say Jaafar pointed the gun at two of Michael's kids, but the family denies that.

As a result, L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services launched an investigation into the incident.

Officials were reportedly surprised to learn that as many as 14 people regularly live in the home, and several others routinely stay there.

Jermaine Jackson's youngest children Jaafar, 13, and Jermajesty, 9, both live at the home, along with their mother, Alejandra Oaziaza.

In addition to having children with Jermaine, Oaziaza also gave birth to his brother Randy Jackson's children Genevieve, 20, and Randy Jr., 18, both of whom also live at the house.

The parentage of another child in the house, Dante, is unknown, but he "has been cared for by Mrs. Jackson for many years," a source said.

Omer Bhatti, a 25-year-old Norwegian rapper, also lives in the house.

Bhatti grew up around Michael Jackson, and some tabloids have claimed he might also be the singer's son.

Though the mother of Randy and Jermaine Jackson's children lives in the house, all of kids are primarily looked after by Grace Rwaramba, Michael Jackson's children's longtime nanny.

Another woman, identified by sources only as Sister Rose, an elderly member of the Nation of Islam, also lives in the home and works as a babysitter.

The bottom line: it became apparent that so many kids in one house was too much for Katherine to handle.

So as of next week, Prince, Paris and Blanket will have the run of the mansion.
 
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Officials were reportedly surprised to learn that as many as 14 people regularly live in the home, and several others routinely stay there.

14 people regularly and SEVERAL OTHERS routinely stay there - DANG!

You look at that and have to ask yourself were folks just taking advantage of Ms. Katherine's kindness and using her home as some sort of FLOP HOUSE. (I'm not talking about Alejandra and her children, I'm talking about all the OTHER folks.)

Shoot, Alejandra is probably happy she is going to have her own crib. LOL!

All of those people coming and going as they please, man oh man. I'm sure Ms. Katherine will be sad to see her other grandchildren leaving, but she ALSO may be happy that her home won't be as chaotic, if some of them move out.

She's a grandmother who loves all of her grandchildren, but she deserves a little peace and quiet also, in my opinion.
 
14 people regularly and SEVERAL OTHERS routinely stay there - DANG!

You look at that and have to ask yourself were folks just taking advantage of Ms. Katherine's kindness and using her home as some sort of FLOP HOUSE. (I'm not talking about Alejandra and her children, I'm talking about all the OTHER folks.)

Shoot, Alejandra is probably happy she is going to have her own crib. LOL!

All of those people coming and going as they please, man oh man. I'm sure Ms. Katherine will be sad to see her other grandchildren leaving, but she ALSO may be happy that her home won't be as chaotic, if some of them move out.

She's a grandmother who loves all of her grandchildren, but she deserves a little peace and quiet also, in my opinion.

I agree with you.
I suggest the other Jacksons take all their children and go
visit Aunty Janet Jackson, if she will open the door. :cheeky:

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A family spokesperson, who didn't want to be identified, told KTLA that Katherine has asked Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza, who lives at the estate with two of her children with Randy Jackson and two with Jermaine Jackson, to leave the compound within the next week.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'm curious to know who is this mysterious source.


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I'm very sure Mr's Jackson love all her grandchildren equally but , let's face the facts:
Michael's children are very special , many people would take advantage of them ,,the media will hunt them like forever,,,and they are threatene by many dangerous and crazy people....these kids need alot of extra care and attention...Mr's Kathriene needs to do more to protect them it was their fathre's last wish, and he chose her and Miss Rose for this.
 
Mr's Kathriene needs to do more to protect them it was their fathre's last wish, and he chose her and Miss Rose for this.

So who is Sister Rose really?
Ive heard she is a JW and Katherines friend.
Ive heard she is part of NOI.
Ive heard she was the kids nanny.
Ive also heard she was the kids tutor..

LOL...

here is a pic of her leaving UCLA on June 25th with Katherine. Can she be the nanny that was in the house that day?

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Though the mother of Randy and Jermaine Jackson's children lives in the house, all of kids are primarily looked after by Grace Rwaramba, Michael Jackson's children's longtime nanny.


I thought Grace was fired?
 
Though the mother of Randy and Jermaine Jackson's children lives in the house, all of kids are primarily looked after by Grace Rwaramba, Michael Jackson's children's longtime nanny.


I thought Grace was fired?

Grace has been fired for a while now...a long while.

Anyway, the bottom portion of the report was recycled from the stun gun story. Only some fans know that Grace was fired, the general public think Grace is still taking care of MJ's kids.

I am under the impression the family doesn't want people to know that those people that knew the kids when MJ was alive were kicked out of their lives.
But they love to hawk that story that the kids are well and playing with their many cousins...more like "bullying" by...But I digress...

Now that dcfs gave them an ultimatum, I wonder what will be the storyline.
 
I am under the impression the family doesn't want people to know that those people that knew the kids when MJ was alive were kicked out of their lives.
But they love to hawk that story that the kids are well and playing with their many cousins...more like "bullying" by...But I digress...
this is so sad :(
i remember i think during Grace and Alvarez were back the kids looked happier
 
this is so sad :(
i remember i think during Grace and Alvarez were back the kids looked happier

Michael jr wanted Alvarez back...because of certain incidents happening...ok...he was let go BECAUSE of the stun gun incident. And not because he had a "drink & drive" record like Randy Jackson had lied to TMZ to cover their ass.

Randall himself has a record for beating a woman, the mother of his child...you think he should be kept away from the kids?

He's acting like he is holier than thou....

Ha ha ha...but still DCFS demands changes.

What about them apples Randall Steven ??
 
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I am under the impression the family doesn't want people to know that those people that knew the kids when MJ was alive were kicked out of their lives.
But they love to hawk that story that the kids are well and playing with their many cousins...more like "bullying" by...But I digress...

guess the jacksons mantra "the kids are doing very well,they're so happy" isn't working after all...
 
Whatever the reason for firing Alberto, in my opinion they need him back. I think he was a good bodyguard. The new one is a bit useless.. even seemed that Prince was rolling his eyes at him :smilerolleyes:!
 
I don't know much about Alberto the bodyguard, but I'll say one thing for him: He knows how to keep his mouth shut!

When he hired that attorney and finally got to speak with the authorities, he NEVER said a word to the press. I remember they tried to find him and his wife said that he had left the home for awhile, because he didn't want to speak to the press.

And after he got fired, he STILL didn't speak with the press, which is something we can't say about a lot of folks who leave Michael's employ.

For that reason alone, I consider him a good man.
 
Michael jr wanted Alvarez back...because of certain incidents happening...ok...he was let go BECAUSE of the stun gun incident. And not because he had a drunk & drive record like Randy Jackson had lied to TMZ to cover their ass.
poor kids, this also shows that they do not really care what is good for them etc... :(
 
Michael jr wanted Alvarez back...because of certain incidents happening...ok...he was let go BECAUSE of the stun gun incident. And not because he had a drunk & drive record like Randy Jackson had lied to TMZ to cover their ass.

Randall himself has a record for beating a woman, the mother of his child...you think he should be kept away from the kids?

He's acting like he is holier than thou....

Ha ha ha...but still DCFS demands changes.

What about them apples Randall Steven ??

its high time ..........Katherine needs to do the right thing for ppb. How long she is going to trust & listen to her useless sons.The whole situation is making fans helpless & frustrated.I never felt so helpless in my life.May god & mike watch over his little angles.
 
its high time ..........Katherine needs to do the right thing for ppb. How long she is going to trust & listen to her useless sons.The whole situation is making fans helpless & frustrated.I never felt so helpless in my life.May god & mike watch over his little angles.
We fans must be forever vigilant, and helpful when we can.
We must have faith, as Michael did, that Katherine will (just like in this stun gun incident) in the end: "Do the Right Thing."
 
We fans must be forever vigilant, and helpful when we can.
We must have faith, as Michael did, that Katherine will (just like in this stun gun incident) in the end: "Do the Right Thing."

awwwwwwwwwww.............u r right.......we must have faith.
 
Grace has been fired for a while now...a long while.

Anyway, the bottom portion of the report was recycled from the stun gun story. Only some fans know that Grace was fired,
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That is 100% sure? Because these fans know? Why I really think it strange not to have come to the press. I bet that TMZ would be the first.

Grace would be really quiet and would not talk to anyone from the press? I think very strange.
 
Alejandra and kids are being kicked out the mansion and then put up in a condo that Michael owed.....so why everything always has to be on Michael's dime?

what does Janet do with her money?

Michael's money house and feeds most of Katherine's grandchildren, ex wives, sons, etc... and Joe.. his own funeral, etc..

what does Janet do with her millions?
 
Alejandra and kids are being kicked out the mansion and then put up in a condo that Michael owed.....so why everything always has to be on Michael's dime?

what does Janet do with her money?

Michael's money house and feeds most of Katherine's grandchildren, ex wives, sons, etc... and Joe.. his own funeral, etc..

what does Janet do with her millions?

Its always been the way its happened ever since the 80s. Everything was paid for by Michael. This is why the brothers were driving fancy cars despite being broke. Everything they used was paid for by Michael. Michael was even paying their kids school fees. Whether things change when the Estate goes to the kids I don't know.
 
Alejandra and kids are being kicked out the mansion and then put up in a condo that Michael owed.....so why everything always has to be on Michael's dime?

what does Janet do with her money?

Michael's money house and feeds most of Katherine's grandchildren, ex wives, sons, etc... and Joe.. his own funeral, etc..

what does Janet do with her millions?
This is all still speculation, nothing has been verified yet. What janet does with her money is her business, we don't know how much she helps out. Not everything is made public about the family.
 
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