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JMie said:
Apparently, the Jackson family had their own photographer at Forest Lawn. The photos are online, I saw them on KOP. So it's good that MJ3 weren't there.
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What's KOP?

Big Apple2 said:
And that's why I "think" Randy was working so hard on getting Michael's children to attend. I mean, surely pictures such as these would have garnered way more attention and MONEY had Michael's three children been involved in this memorial.

I'm also glad they were not there. They are not objects that should be put on display for someones personal gain and/or to elevate one's non-existent status!
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If that's true it's really sad :( ...surely it can't be. :(
 
classic said:
The fact that Schaffel is around Mrs. Jackson is disturbing. But, I think the problem may have been that when her agenda was the well being of her grandchildren and mourning her son, which is what she very well should have been focused on, she was also getting sideswiped with all these other agendas (ex. contesting the will, having Michael buried at Neverland, etc). Whether those other agendas were important/right or not, at some point she determined that that was not her agenda. So, in walk Rowe and Schaffel "on the same page" as Mrs. Jackson ("concern" about the children). Of course it would be easy for them to get her ear. It would have been so much harder to get to her and latch on to her if perhaps some others would have put their agendas on hold and held on to hers a little tighter.
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I don't like Marc Schaffel in the picture AT ALL; and Debbie being around him I don't like either. And they both are in Katherine's good side....well Katherine on the Dateline interview mentioned Debbie, she didn't mention Schaffel. However, it's obvious then and it's very obvious now why Schaffel has been around Debbie...because through her (being the biological mother os MJ's 2 oldest kids) he can worm his way into the Jackson family by means of appealing to the easiest one (in this case, Katherine). He's all about making money from this association. The idea of him being around MJ's kids and mother gives me the shudders. And I'm back and forth with Debbie. While I believe she has a level of decency in her, the fact she's hanging with this opportunistic vulture has me questioning her motives at times. I hope her motives are genuine for the sake of MJ's kids AND for his beloved mother Katherine. The poor woman is going through enough; she doesn't need to be lured into a web of deceit which would cause her and her grandkids more stress and grief.

And despite the popular pastime of Randy bashing, I do agree with him about his parents being taken advantage of. I saw that Dateline interview and while I enjoyed Katherine's interview, I fumed when that reporter guy with his sideways commentary and when Marc Schaffel was talking how he by passed lawyers and such to get Debbie and Katherine together...I just cringed. He is one of the many vultures that exploited and stole from Michael...not to mention Schaffel was claiming he went to Brazil to get some boys for Michael. He was saying this mess (by means of a lawsuit to get money from Michael that he did not deserve) during the time when Michael was going through that trial period. He was quoted in People magazine a few months back insinuating that Debbie was being kept from Prince and Paris.

And even though Joe can be hard to sympathize with at times, I feel for him too becasue he's being taken advantage of too. But he's too busy playing Pimp Daddy manager and unable to see dollar signs to see what's going on. He loves Michael and he wants justice for him and he wants his legacy to continue. However he needs to do it with legitimate people instead of these jack-legged characters.

Say what you will about Randy; but he has legitimate concerns. The eyes of suspicion and cynicism that loves to focus on Randy need to focus on these wolves in sheep's clothing that are inching their way in the Jackson family, and yes it's a concern because of the fact that Michael's children is at stake her.
 
I don't know what's up with Debbie and Schaffel, it "almost" appears, to ME, like they're DATING. I know that she's single, but what's his "situation?" I mean, they appear to be attached at the hip. I wonder how Debbie's OTHER friends feel about Schaffel.

As far as Joe Jackson goes, I'm not sure about him being taken advantage of. In my opinion, it's HIM who is bringing most of these shady folks into Ms. Katherine's circle, because he so BADLY wants to recapture the Jackon Five days, when the name "Joe Jackson" actually meant something respectable to folks, a time when folks held him in high regard and of course the money that came with ALL of that.

And if Randy has legitimate concerns, then he should address them to the proper people and stop taking his battle to Twitter, because, in my opinion, all it does is cause more confusion. I suggest LESS meetings with Leonard Rowe, regarding what he deems a "fake" will and concentrate on the vital matters at hand, which effect his 80+ year old parents. Along with his parents, he needs to repair his relationship with his children. To ME, those two things are vital, everything else doesn't really matter at this point!
 
Big Apple2 said:
I don't know what's up with Debbie and Schaffel, it "almost" appears, to ME, like they're DATING. I know that she's single, but what's his "situation?" I mean, they appear to be attached at the hip. I wonder how Debbie's OTHER friends feel about Schaffel.

As far as Joe Jackson goes, I'm not sure about him being taken advantage of. In my opinion, it's HIM who is bringing most of these shady folks into Ms. Katherine's circle, because he so BADLY wants to recapture the Jackon Five days, when the name "Joe Jackson" actually meant something respectable to folks, a time when folks held him in high regard and of course the money that came with ALL of that.

And if Randy has legitimate concerns, then he should address them to the proper people and stop taking his battle to Twitter, because, in my opinion, all it does is cause more confusion. I suggest LESS meetings with Leonard Rowe, regarding what he deems a "fake" will and concentrate on the vital matters at hand, which effect his 80+ year old parents. Along with his parents, he needs to repair his relationship with his children. To ME, those two things are vital, everything else doesn't really matter at this point!
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I'm going to state what I feel as long ad Debbie doesn't get rid of that creep she shouldn't be in touch with Michael's children period. She wasn't there this past decade so a year or few months whatever time she needs to get rid of that guy doesn't change a thing either. I hate the fact that Shaffel is sliming his way through Katherine and I don't get how she is even falling for it. She was at the trial each and every day she should know who he is and what he stands for. As for Debbie as long as she's associated with him she's dubious period.
 
Big Apple2 said:
And that's why I "think" Randy was working so hard on getting Michael's children to attend. I mean, surely pictures such as these would have garnered way more attention and MONEY had Michael's three children been involved in this memorial.

I'm also glad they were not there. They are not objects that should be put on display for someones personal gain and/or to elevate one's non-existent status!
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Ur absolutely right, Steven was trying so hard b/c of that even his bald head is aware of this ain't no one's gonna pay enough money to see him and his siblings with his sister hanging on his arm. This memorial was a self promotion orchestrated by Steven. I'm glad for Katherine to put her foot down and 3T to take them outta town.
 
There are a lot of photos from inside the Mausoleum now. Starring Randy, Janet and Jermaine. I'm really upset and disappointed. No doubt at all in my mind that it was all just PR for them. Thank god, PPB were far away with 3T.
 
JMie said:
There are a lot of photos from inside the Mausoleum now. Starring Randy, Janet and Jermaine. I'm really upset and disappointed. No doubt at all in my mind that it was all just PR for them. Thank god, PPB were far away with 3T.
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I haven't seen the pics yet but the way all of them appeared there, everything was planned by yours truly. Everything. You know nothing is sacred, nothing is holy, there is no dignity that's what some of that family lack. This is exactly why Michael kept away and went to OTHER families to have a sense of what family is go figure. You have a guy with a dozens of siblings yet he feels the need to get involved with strangers and their families to get a feeling of what family means. He kept himself and his kids away for a reason. And that reason is being proven over and over again since last June. Michael was a wise man.
 
^^ I agree...

It's really sad to witness..I'm glad that 3T were able to keep them away from all this..

It's sad that they are not all united, they all have their own agendas it seems..
 
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I've seen the pictures taken inside the Mauseleum and I have to say I am truly surprised. Is'nt this supposed to be a private thing? why the need to release the photos? was that the reason why there was this urgency to have Michael's kids there? Michael kids = more money for the pics?

Does'nt anyone care about what MJ would want anymore?

BTW....can someone tell me why Raymone Baine was at the private ceremony? I don't understand that one......how comes the Jackson family are all so chummy with MJ's backstabbing ex-friends/employees?
 
twinklEE said:
Ur absolutely right, Steven was trying so hard b/c of that even his bald head is aware of this ain't no one's gonna pay enough money to see him and his siblings with his sister hanging on his arm. This memorial was a self promotion orchestrated by Steven. I'm glad for Katherine to put her foot down and 3T to take them outta town.
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God you have such a way with words SMDH. You make a good point but whats with the name calling? sounds very childish to me. you could have just said it like this:
ExoticPrincess said:
I've seen the pictures taken inside the Mauseleum and I have to say I am truly surprised. Is'nt this supposed to be a private thing? why the need to release the photos? was that the reason why there was this urgency to have Michael's kids there? Michael kids = more money for the pics?
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I think the media will still be interested in the pics though sadly, just because they are inside the mausoleum.
 
Tsukiji said:
^^ I agree...

It's really sad to witness..I'm glad that 3T were able to keep them away from all this..

It's sad that they are not all united, they all have their own agendas it seems..
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I'm most certain that it was due to them and their effort that Michael's kids were spared this. A shame when u see his nephews (3T) act in a more dignified manner than his own siblings, but then again Steven has always been something else from the time he went beating up Gina Spargue till now.
 
raz2911 said:
God you have such a way with words SMDH. You make a good point but whats with the name calling? sounds very childish to me. you could have just said it like this:


I think the media will still be interested in the pics though sadly, just because they are inside the mausoleum.
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I'm not name calling anyone I'm observing facts his head is shaved off hence bald. Now it's a crime to call a bald headed guy bald and a long haired guy long haired?
I'm not going to sugar coat any of their actions and desperate PR attempts if u feel the need go ahead, if that's what makes u happy
 
Randy's latest tweets....

Let me be clear, there's no legitimate ‘Jackson Family Foundation’ that my brothers & sisters are aware of. about 21 hours ago via web

As far as I am concerned, tonight’s event is a fraud. about 21 hours ago via web

I know my parents would not be involved if they really knew the characters they have aligned themselves with… about 21 hours ago via web

am doing my best to get my parents to understand who the people are around them about 21 hours ago via web

How can you raise money for a foundation that has not been legally formed? It is disrespectful to this family & an insult the public & fans about 21 hours ago via web

I am sick of people trying to exploit & take advantage of my parents and then letting our family take the blame. about 21 hours ago via web

I don’t mean 2 be negative all the time but pls understand my bro shouldnt be dead & I get protective when people try 2 exploit us, esp now about 21 hours ago via web

I can’t do this alone. Thank u so much for ur support, especially yesterday. It was wonderful 2 see so many friends & fans at Forest Lawn about 21 hours ago via web
 
Michael, Michael, Michael......what would you really be thinking if you could just see what happening? I'm tellin' you, if these people don't get their ish together its just gonna be one big embarrassment to them all!

Michael's one year anniversary and they all can't put aside their differences and come together! see why Michael kept his distance?
 
twinklEE said:
I'm not name calling anyone I'm observing facts his head is shaved off hence bald. Now it's a crime to call a bald headed guy bald and a long haired guy long haired?
I'm not going to sugar coat any of their actions and desperate PR attempts if u feel the need go ahead, if that's what makes u happy
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I recall you saying to me I shove my opinions down people throats, but ok...
You didn't say in a nice manner, then again you don't say much in a nice manner, but nevermind I'm not looking for an argument so I'll just go elsewhere ;)
 
As crazy as it might sound I was actully waiting for Randy to tweet and b*tch about something from the family memorial on friday. That wouldn't have surprised me at all! :giggle:

Annie123 said:
I tried about 22 hours ago via mobile web


Sorry Big Bro, for not getting ur children there on the anniversary of ur last day about 22 hours ago via mobile web
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This made me feel sick. Kids obviously didn't want to attend any of the memorials, not the one in Forest Lawn nor the one in Gary, Indiana. They obviously wanted to have a-get-away and went on vacation to Hawaii. In my opinion excellent choice :yes:

According to Randy's tweets he really tried to get them to Forest Lawn, when at the same time according to Jermaine (in Larry Kings interview) kids don't even visit Forest Lawn that often. I could imagine if and when they would want to go to see their father it would happen on a normal day without tons of people and cameras outside the Forest Lawn. So why on earth would Randy want to drag them there on a day of Michael's anniversary? Unless he wants his 15mins of fame by exploiting the kids :(
 
He knows the fan and others in the world are reading and paying attention to everything he tweets.
As another poster said,"they are all become an embarrssement to themsleves". They just need to STOP!!!:scratch:
 
big apple2 said:
i don't know what's up with debbie and schaffel, it "almost" appears, to me, like they're dating. I know that she's single, but what's his "situation?" i mean, they appear to be attached at the hip. I wonder how debbie's other friends feel about schaffel.

As far as joe jackson goes, i'm not sure about him being taken advantage of. In my opinion, it's him who is bringing most of these shady folks into ms. Katherine's circle, because he so badly wants to recapture the jackon five days, when the name "joe jackson" actually meant something respectable to folks, a time when folks held him in high regard and of course the money that came with all of that.

And if randy has legitimate concerns, then he should address them to the proper people and stop taking his battle to twitter, because, in my opinion, all it does is cause more confusion. I suggest less meetings with leonard rowe, regarding what he deems a "fake" will and concentrate on the vital matters at hand, which effect his 80+ year old parents. Along with his parents, he needs to repair his relationship with his children. To me, those two things are vital, everything else doesn't really matter at this point!
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Ugh! She needs to run like hell from him. I was not pleased to see his face on ABC. He produces gay porn and I don't think he is straight. Debbie needs to think why he is being such good friends with her. She really needs to consider if its because he likes her a person and not for what she provides him access to. This makes me wonder how long have they been friends. Surely she can't be ignorant of him suing MJ? Maybe he made a bunch of excuses to her. :smilerolleyes:
 
Reeta said:
As crazy as it might sound I was actully waiting for Randy to tweet and b*tch about something from the family memorial on friday. That wouldn't have surprised me at all! :giggle:



This made me feel sick. Kids obviously didn't want to attend any of the memorials, not the one in Forest Lawn nor the one in Gary, Indiana. They obviously wanted to have a-get-away and went on vacation to Hawaii. In my opinion excellent choice :yes:

According to Randy's tweets he really tried to get them to Forest Lawn, when at the same time according to Jermaine (in Larry Kings interview) kids don't even visit Forest Lawn that often. I could imagine if and when they would want to go to see their father it would happen on a normal day without tons of people and cameras outside the Forest Lawn. So why on earth would Randy want to drag them there on a day of Michael's anniversary? Unless he wants his 15mins of fame by exploiting the kids :(
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err randy is vile. just when u think he cant come out with any more crap he does. he wanted to parade them infront of everyone to get $. not that it needed confirming but this confirms what his feelings and motives are towards the mj3. i salute whoever decided to take them away for the 25th. it eases your pain a little to see the pics of them having fun and getting some escapism away from the madness.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
err randy is vile. just when u think he cant come out with any more crap he does. hes sorry he couldnt get them there so he could get a pay out. if this doestn show his intentions and feelings towards those kids nothing will
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Remember when the kids appeared on the Grammy's with 3T to take the award on behalf of their daddy, cry baby cried again claiming no one of his family was invited, this time on the eve of Michael's first anniversary he showed what kind of person he is again, when he tweeted about Mj's kids not being there, one would think that u'd cut the crap at least for a day but not Steven. Thanks God Michaels children where safe and sound with Tito's sons back in January and now.
 
Bottom line...

All WE are saying..."S.T.O.P EXPLOITING"

Mr.Michael Jackson, HIS Children, and The Jackson Family


Exploiting = Taking advantage of; to take selfish or unfair advantage of a person (s) and/or situation for personal gain..!


As Always

:angel:
 
twinklEE said:
I haven't seen the pics yet but the way all of them appeared there, everything was planned by yours truly. Everything. You know nothing is sacred, nothing is holy, there is no dignity that's what some of that family lack. This is exactly why Michael kept away and went to OTHER families to have a sense of what family is go figure. You have a guy with a dozens of siblings yet he feels the need to get involved with strangers and their families to get a feeling of what family means. He kept himself and his kids away for a reason. And that reason is being proven over and over again since last June. Michael was a wise man.
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well said. as if it wasnt disgusting enough with jermaine doing an interview outside of FL we now have this.
 
twinklEE said:
I haven't seen the pics yet but the way all of them appeared there, everything was planned by yours truly. Everything. You know nothing is sacred, nothing is holy, there is no dignity that's what some of that family lack. This is exactly why Michael kept away and went to OTHER families to have a sense of what family is go figure. You have a guy with a dozens of siblings yet he feels the need to get involved with strangers and their families to get a feeling of what family means. He kept himself and his kids away for a reason. And that reason is being proven over and over again since last June. Michael was a wise man.
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Nail on the head. I want to expound on your post, but I'll pass. I'll just give you some rep and call it a day. :flowers:

eta: I'm sure Michael still loved and had great affection for his blood family. But they obviously weren't his ONLY family...or the only people he thought of as "family". Berry Gordy and Marlon Brando know something about this.
 
twinklEE said:
I haven't seen the pics yet but the way all of them appeared there, everything was planned by yours truly. Everything. You know nothing is sacred, nothing is holy, there is no dignity that's what some of that family lack. This is exactly why Michael kept away and went to OTHER families to have a sense of what family is go figure. You have a guy with a dozens of siblings yet he feels the need to get involved with strangers and their families to get a feeling of what family means. He kept himself and his kids away for a reason. And that reason is being proven over and over again since last June. Michael was a wise man.
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I just have to quote this because it's the truth, the sad truth.

Like I pointed out before, it seems like some the family all have their own motives and things they want for themselves...I really don't see a whole lot of family unity between some of them, just a bunch of people doing things for themselves.

Having said that there is still some of the family who do conduct themselves honorably.

We all know the one's who are honorable, and the one's who aren't. I hope that Michael's children see it as well.
 
At first I wasn't sure if the kids not being at any memorials in LA or Indiana was a good thing but I do now. People obviously wanted to have videos or pictures taken of them on that day and I find that sick. I think they have had too much exposure this last year. More than Michael would have wanted. As they get older they will honor their dad but for now just leave them alone. They are not showcases they are just kids.

I wish the family could be united and not be all over the place. It's like nobody knows what the others are doing.
 
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