Update: Behind the Scenes on Jan 28th 8PM ET OWN Channel / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

[StacyJ]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

You and WHES do not understand the fans. We are not saying he never had a problem at any time in his life. Stop skipping in the reading and trying to make people say what you want them to say and actually try to comprehend what the fans are saying.

His family members are saying he was addicted and in denial at the time of his death. They paint the picture that MJ has been a raging addict for most of his adult life from Pepsi onward. (some say things a little differently, but the ones who have spoken on it all say he was addicted to drugs at the time of his death). That is the first problem. We have an autopsy report that says differently. If they are speaking about in the past or other times in his life, they have had numerous opportunites to clear up this misrepresentation that is abundant in the media about their loved one.

Yet, despite what others have said, who were closer to MJ than his own family, and despite what the autopsy says (which would have shown recent long term addiction to perscriton meds) they choose to not only continue with this opinion (their choice) but spread it around for all to hear so that people think MJ is a junkie strung out on perscription drugs.

Exactly,,, you are so right and once again Katherine, Janet and none of them have given any specific timeframe for this addiction. Janet has said repeatedly she hadn't seen MJ in years and only knew what was going on from Katherine. So if she hadn't seen her brother in years then how did she know he was drugged up? The entire family had no clue what was going on with MJ. Mike spent his time with other families and friends. He lived in Bahrain, Ireland, New Jersey and Las Vegas after the trial. His family was clueless about everything. If they are asked to testify at court I will bet you cash money they won't have any timeframes for this addiction because they don't know and they never happened.

 

[ginvid]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Those drugs only last a little while so no they wouldn't show up in the autopsy report because of how long he was gone. If he had just taken them and was rushed to the hospital they would have tested for the drugs and found that they were in his system. But since it took so long for them to first call 911, clean up the bottles, try to warm up Michael's body. the effects and traces wore off.

im just saying.

That is not true. Long term perscription med abuse shows up in the body's organs and drugs have half lives for the time it takes for things to go out of the system.
If what you said was true, Murray would not have even been charged because there would be no proof of these drugs in his system.

I sometimes think there should be a mandatory reading of the autopsy thread before fans can come on here spreading things that show they are clearly misinformed.

If the family is going to tallk about MJ being addicted to perscription drugs, we will fight them tooth and nail.

Now, if they want to talk about P, then that's a different story and instead of showing he was addicted to drugs, it will show he was suffering from lack of sleep. But they never seem to want to go down that route.

 

[StacyJ]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

That is not true. Lond term perscription med abuse shows up in the body's organs and drugs have half lives for the time it takes for things to go out of the system.
If what you said was true, Murray would not have even been charged because there would be no proof of these drugs in his system.

I sometimes think there should be a mandatory reading of the autopsy thread before fans can come on here spreading things that show they are clearly misinformed.

thank you... you are so on point.

 

[ilmjj]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

If Michael was a long tome drug abuser his internal organs would have showed that. Also the autopsy would have been able to detect recent drug abuse. If I read the autopsy report correctly his organs were healthy.

Any autoimmune disease is so challenging. Your own body is rejecting and attacking itself. It can be horribly painful. I am sure he wasn't taking the prescription pain meds for recreation.

 

[Alma]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

We are not saying he never had a problem at any time in his life. Stop skipping in the reading and trying to make people say what you want them to say and actually try to comprehend what the fans are saying.

His family members are saying he was addicted and in denial at the time of his death. They paint the picture that MJ has been a raging addict for most of his adult life from Pepsi onward. (some say things a little differently, but the ones who have spoken on it all say he was addicted to drugs at the time of his death). That is the first problem. We have an autopsy report that says differently. If they are speaking about in the past or other times in his life, they have had numerous opportunites to clear up this misrepresentation that is abundant in the media about their loved one.

Yet, despite what others have said, who were closer to MJ than his own family, and despite what the autopsy says (which would have shown recent long term addiction to perscriton meds) they choose to not only continue with this opinion (their choice) but spread it around for all to hear so that people think MJ is a junkie strung out on perscription drugs.

Also taking drugs for pain for medical conditions you have is ot tantamount to being an addict. I'm sure up til the time of his death he did use drugs to help cope with the pain of his medical conditions. But misusing them is something different. That is what is at issue here.

I have to quote this.

There is serious need for more to think holistically.

And for the upteenth time: what must the children feel and think of when hearing their father being "addicted" to meds... no: I meant drugs and plastic surgery? Do some care about them too?

The family is not being attacked, I for, one, don't, but some of their off comments. Michael would never have said something like about them or anyone in public. When he talked about his abusive childhood, he later on added how he forgave his father and all that... and even apologized to him for disclosing this.

So, I don't understand why won't more just understand why there's a reason for this hurt going on.

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Over the day this thread has exploded so I'm going to have to close this temporarily so we can clean it. The arguments need to stop.

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Just had a clean of the thread and a few of the rules have been violated here which I do need to address. Firstly the drug addict claims. We will not accept any claims that Michael was some raging drug addict. Yes we know he had problems in the past but we have an autopsy report that proves he was not this raging drug addict the media likes to portray. We just won't accept it. By all means discuss what Katherine and Oprah said in the interview but again, no claims that Michael was a drug addict.

Secondly just had to clean a lot of posts that contained insults and name calling. No more insults and calling people names just because they don't agree with you. This is a board for everyone and no one deserves to be called 'delusional'

Thirdly we just won't allow discussion of Prince's vitiligo here. It's not fair on him and that is not what Michael would not.

I hope you guys can take these things on board and simply remain respectful to each other. We've all had a terrible weekend and its been emotionally draining for every single one of us. We love being staff and want an environment that you can all call your home but we're hurting too and we need to be able to vent without having to lock down and clean threads. We need this too.

My heart is breaking, it truly is, and its you guys and this place that keep me going. We are one big MJFam and we're here to support each other in trying times like this. We just cannot let people ruin Michael's legacy and we need to work together. Michael always called us his 'soldiers of love' and that is what we need to be.

Thanks everyone

 

[riviera1992]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

That is not true. Long term perscription med abuse shows up in the body's organs and drugs have half lives for the time it takes for things to go out of the system.
If what you said was true, Murray would not have even been charged because there would be no proof of these drugs in his system.

I sometimes think there should be a mandatory reading of the autopsy thread before fans can come on here spreading things that show they are clearly misinformed.

If the family is going to tallk about MJ being addicted to perscription drugs, we will fight them tooth and nail.

Now, if they want to talk about P, then that's a different story and instead of showing he was addicted to drugs, it will show he was suffering from lack of sleep. But they never seem to want to go down that route.

Just wanted to add this link in response

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_do_drugs_stay_in_your_system

Benzodiazapines - 3 to 6 weeks in urine, up to 90 in hair and 2 - 3 days in blood.

And I think these are conservatives data. I've seen some drugs up to 10 weeks.

Like you, I wish people would do their research before posting non-sense.

Thanks for cleaning the thread.

Now, if we could only clean some of the jacksons'comments from the airwaves, we'd be in good shape.

 

[Vaneela_w]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Even though I knew this would happen, it pains me to see it. Now do people understand, why we get concerned about what the family say and what Katherine said? Now let me see what I can do to help. Thanks for the blog and I will follow the instructions.

UK media is the the worst in the world...even without this interview, you can expect the worst from them!:yes:

 

[ginvid]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Like you, I wish people would do their research before posting non-sense.

Well in this case, I think it was just a misunderstanding. I think there is a lot of miscommunication between fans. Somtimes, we are talking about the same things and mean the same, but are just on different planes. It makes it easier when we can communicate without being harsh. I did not in post and I apologize. I got worked up.

So sorry anyone I offended by that. That wasn't what I was trying to do.

 

[LindavG]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

UK media is the the worst in the world...even without this interview, you can expect the worst from them!:yes:

Nah I think they are on par with American media. Both are just terrible and way too celebrity-obsessed, the difference between tabloids and 'reputable' media is hardly visible. In my country it is absolutely unthinkable that a guest on a popular TV show would say something so shocking and offensive about a dead man and his children. We have our tabloids but everyone treats them as such, they're clearly separated from the more serious media. I have never seen celebrities on the news for example except in extreme cases like when they die.

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Back in 1993 when Oprah interviewed Michael and asked him about his brothers, he gave a very diplomatic answer. He did not get into how brothers may have been jealous of his success. Whatever issues he had with them, he could have aired them then and there. But that would not have been fair to them. And really, it was FAMILY business and NOBODY ELSE'S!

I honestly feel that both LMP and Mrs Jackson spoke about stuff that should have remained PRIVATE. Not everything needs to be in the public domain, for people to 'wash their mouths' on Michael. Keep a journal and write all those thoughts in them!

I am heartily sick of people not showing Michael the basic consideration that he showed them.

Stop being melodramatic. If anyone goes anywhere and starts talking against MJ for something we have scientific proof for, they will get the same. It is not about putting MJ on a pedastal to the detriment of everyone else. It is about not putting everyone else on a pedastal to the detriment of MJ. This is his board.

Did everyone read TheChosenOne's post? If not go back and read it please. When are people going to finally put their foot down. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. Fans know full well if someone else like Brooke or whoever got on TV saying some of these same things they would be in uproar. Oh, but a family member can say it and suddenly it becomes ok???

Where I am from, you are even more protective of a family member, not less. And, you would certainly protect them more after they have died. Who freaking goes on Tv and talks about their dead loved ones by pointing out his flaws to a person and world who has crucified him his whole life. Well, I think we have our answer on that. Yet, this is repeatedly excused by some fans. Ther was NO mention of his humanitarism of his many works for the benefit of others. But there was tiome to mention that book more than once. Katherine has known Mj 50 years. She has the ability to humanize him just as much as his children. But the family never seems to do this. At the end of their interviews, he comes off as even more of a freak. We have learned more about Mj as a human in 5 minutes from his children than we have in hours of interviews from his siblings and parents. Why is that? How is this setting the record straight?

Whatever, people can think as they choose. No one is saying Kath didn't love MJ. No one. No one is saying she was not deeply hurt by his death. She obviously was. She is still hurting. She will hurt forever. And I would not wish this on her or any of her family members. It is a pain that does not go away. It is hard. I also think Kath will make mistakes. Of course she will. But to excuse every mistake she makes undere the guise that she is his mother is unacceptable to me.

I agree she needs to take care of herself and her children and of MJ's legacy. Plkease cut ties with those around her who don't care anything about her or MJ or his children (even if it is other family members). She did NOT have to do this interview. It was her choice. As fans we are asking her to choose differently next time.

Michael's "drastic" change in appearance can be medically explained. I would even bet that most of it was not by his choice. we know his skin color was not about "want" but was because of his medical condition and him not wanting to look spotted.

We also know, that although he got his nose done, the drastic changes with that are because of his lupus. He was trying to fix it to look more normal. If we as fans can look these things up and know medically what was wrong with MJ, why does this news escape his own family? Why do they not bring these kinds of things up if they are going to talk about them at all? Why not set the record straight? They give the impressions that do nothing but give haters a reason to feel justified in their thoughts of him.

And she did not set the record straight about the propofol. Read the papers. They are still saying he was addicted to perscription drugs and using Kath's interview as proof and implying this played a part in his death. we as fans can uinderstand the difference because we actually cared to look these things up. But to the average person, we have to think about what impression are they receiving. How do they read what Kath said? A part of that is because Oprah would not let her finish her thoughts. But then you have to be firm as an interviewee and say, "Let me go back to something you said before, because I did not finish my thought. This, this, and this occurred". With people like Oprah you have to command the situation or she walks all over you to push her agenda. It was a bad position for Kath to be in. But she was in it because she chose to be. So she should have commanded it and she didn't.

Excellent posts! :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

Nope, no sense at all.

I even recall Tito Jackson talking about going to see Michael during his O2 run and how he and the brothers would be willing to join him on stage at the O2.

As per Tito Jackson: "I'm hoping that he ask us to join him on stage." (While flashing to giant Tito smile.)

Tito making those comments certainly didn't seem to be concerned about "drug addiction" and/or "inventions."

Thanks for mentioning that. :cheeky: Just another example...

 

[suzynyc]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

exactly Big Apple... that family has been in the business for over 40 years and they still don't know how to handle the press at all.. Katherine had to realize that comment would've been picked up. The media will say 'she sounds like us mocking MJ, so it must be ok' If his own family mocks him, what makes them get upset with the media?

Katherine was only saying what she feels or what she thinks to be true. I don't think she says the things she says to be malicious or mean. She was just telling her side of things. The media will pick up on whatever they want, no matter what. It's sad that the fans are accusing Michael's own mother of mocking him. In my opinion, that isn't what she was doing. It's not like she called him ugly like that Joe did. So she had her opinions about some of the things her son did...what mother doesn't? She still loves him obviously.

 

[suzynyc]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Michael's "drastic" change in appearance can be medically explained. I would even bet that most of it was not by his choice. we know his skin color was not about "want" but was because of his medical condition and him not wanting to look spotted.

We also know, that although he got his nose done, the drastic changes with that are because of his lupus. He was trying to fix it to look more normal. If we as fans can look these things up and know medically what was wrong with MJ, why does this news escape his own family? Why do they not bring these kinds of things up if they are going to talk about them at all? Why not set the record straight? They give the impressions that do nothing but give haters a reason to feel justified in their thoughts of him.

And she did not set the record straight about the propofol. Read the papers. They are still saying he was addicted to perscription drugs and using Kath's interview as proof and implying this played a part in his death. we as fans can uinderstand the difference because we actually cared to look these things up. But to the average person, we have to think about what impression are they receiving. How do they read what Kath said? A part of that is because Oprah would not let her finish her thoughts. But then you have to be firm as an interviewee and say, "Let me go back to something you said before, because I did not finish my thought. This, this, and this occurred". With people like Oprah you have to command the situation or she walks all over you to push her agenda. It was a bad position for Kath to be in. But she was in it because she chose to be. So she should have commanded it and she didn't.

I don't think any of this has been proven regarding Lupus being the reason his nose changed so much. The autopsy never mentioned Lupus, am I right? It might be true but who knows this for sure...

The skin color is a different issue. I was talking about Katherine's opinion about his nose surgeries. For whatever reason, it's just her opinion. Just like us, she herself may not know the exact reasons he did what he did.

All I'm saying is I think people are being too tough on Katherine and it makes me feel uncomfortable, remembering how much Michael looked up to her and loved her.

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Katherine was only saying what she feels or what she thinks to be true. I don't think she says the things she says to be malicious or mean. She was just telling her side of things. The media will pick up on whatever they want, no matter what. It's sad that the fans are accusing Michael's own mother of mocking him. In my opinion, that isn't what she was doing. It's not like she called him ugly like that Joe did. So she had her opinions about some of the things her son did...what mother doesn't? She still loves him obviously.

Thankfully everybody is entitled to their own opinion and in MY opinion that crack about a "tooth pick" looking nose is something I would expect to hear from Letterman, LENO and/or Chris Rock. Certainly not Michael's own mother.

My thing is this: personal stuff being shared around the breakfast table is way different than stuff you share with a public audience. That's my issue regarding the "nose" comment. That's something you say and which stays in the privacy of your own home. Everything a person thinks does not necessarily have to be made public. Like I said previously, would Jermaine's "deadbeat dad" issues have been shared in a public forum. Somehow I doubt it.

Listen I'm sure we have all said "stuff" about one family member or another, but we would NEVER repeat it in publc.

 

[LindavG]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Katherine was only saying what she feels or what she thinks to be true. I don't think she says the things she says to be malicious or mean. She was just telling her side of things. The media will pick up on whatever they want, no matter what. It's sad that the fans are accusing Michael's own mother of mocking him. In my opinion, that isn't what she was doing. It's not like she called him ugly like that Joe did. So she had her opinions about some of the things her son did...what mother doesn't? She still loves him obviously.

I agree. I also don't think that "toothpick" comment was deliberate, she just blurted it out (not sure if this is the right expression but you probably know what I mean) like we all say stuff sometimes that later on we think "oops, I wish I hadn't said that out loud". I didn't even hear it the first time, I had to go back and listen to it again after reading about it here. I think for the most part, Katherine did a good job in portraying Michael as honest and loving as she could, she literally had me crying at some points. I don't understand the attacks on her by some members here in that respect. Of course it would have been nice if the interview was all positive, but let's be realistic: not all things about Michael's life were that positive and I see no problem with addressing these things, it will only increase Katherine's credibility when she speaks about other things. Sure it's hard to hear her speak about Michael's addiction to plastic surgery, but come on, we all know it's true. I don't think anyone is shocked to hear this apart from some fans who really do believe he only ever had 2 surgeries in his life lol. I think Katherine handled the questions about child molestation well (how disgraceful of Oprah to ask his own mother if she ever thought he was guilty btw) and she told Joe to admit he beat uh I mean 'whipped' Michael (although I didn't like how it was brushed off as "that's just how black people punished their kids"). Overall it was a good interview and I have heard from several people who watched it that it changed their perception of Michael in a positive way The press is always going to print the most shocking and controversial headlines anyway, and even if Katherine had done nothing but praise Michael the tabloids will manage to twist it in such a way that it sounds negative. That's just the way it is

 

[StacyJ]

Well Oprah got what she wanted which was her highest rated show of the year so far

http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/opr...-show-hits-season-high-with-the-jackson-kids/

Oprah Posts 600th Week As No.1 Talk Show & Hits Season High With The Jackson Kids
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Tuesday November 9, 2010 @ 10:57am PST
Tags: Daytime Talk Shows, Oprah, Oprah Final Season, Oprah Jackson Family Interview, Oprah Michael Jackson Parents/Kids, Oprah No.1 Rated, Oprah Ratings, Oprah Winfrey, The Oprah Winfrey Show, TV

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Oprah's highly publicized sitdown with Michael Jackson's parents and kids yesterday drew an 8.1 household rating, a season high for the talk show queen, now in the final season of her syndicated talk show. The episode, Oprah Talks To Michael Jackson’s Mother, Katherine, And Visits With His Children, was also Oprah's highest-rated episode in a year, since her interview with Sarah Palin last November. Oprah, of course, had a ratings smash with her 1993 Michael Jackson special. Also today, the most recent syndication national ratings were released, and Oprah marked its 600th consecutive week in a row as the No.1 talk show on television. After a string of low summer, the show has picked up steam this fall as it heads into its September 2011 finale.

 

[LindavG]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I don't think any of this has been proven regarding Lupus being the reason his nose changed so much. The autopsy never mentioned Lupus, am I right? It might be true but who knows this for sure...

The skin color is a different issue. I was talking about Katherine's opinion about his nose surgeries. For whatever reason, it's just her opinion. Just like us, she herself may not know the exact reasons he did what he did.

All I'm saying is I think people are being too tough on Katherine and it makes me feel uncomfortable, remembering how much Michael looked up to her and loved her.

Are you questioning the fact that Michael had Lupus? :mello:

 

[StacyJ]

Well Oprah got what she wanted which was her highest rated show of the year so far

http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/opr...-show-hits-season-high-with-the-jackson-kids/

Oprah Posts 600th Week As No.1 Talk Show & Hits Season High With The Jackson Kids
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Tuesday November 9, 2010 @ 10:57am PST
Tags: Daytime Talk Shows, Oprah, Oprah Final Season, Oprah Jackson Family Interview, Oprah Michael Jackson Parents/Kids, Oprah No.1 Rated, Oprah Ratings, Oprah Winfrey, The Oprah Winfrey Show, TV

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Oprah's highly publicized sitdown with Michael Jackson's parents and kids yesterday drew an 8.1 household rating, a season high for the talk show queen, now in the final season of her syndicated talk show. The episode, Oprah Talks To Michael Jackson’s Mother, Katherine, And Visits With His Children, was also Oprah's highest-rated episode in a year, since her interview with Sarah Palin last November. Oprah, of course, had a ratings smash with her 1993 Michael Jackson special. Also today, the most recent syndication national ratings were released, and Oprah marked its 600th consecutive week in a row as the No.1 talk show on television. After a string of low summer, the show has picked up steam this fall as it heads into its September 2011 finale.

 

[StacyJ]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

So in order to confirm MJ's lupus who will be testifying at trial? will it be Metzger or Klein?

 

[Vaneela_w]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I think I must have missed the "toothpick" comment, in which case I am glad.

On a different note, I want to say I was really impressed by how Paris answered the questions and by her whole presence...she is such an adorable girl and already has great charisma. Prince just looked bored and in places he had that "can't be bothered" attitude, especially when Paris is asked about what she misses the most, and he stands in the background and kind of moves his head in a way that makes it look as if he is sooo bored/tired of all these questions. But I guess he is just not comfortable with showing emotions and stuff. And Blanket was extremely sweet and shy...:wub:

As I said, the best bits were the ones with the kids...but other than that, it was just the usual talk, nothing we haven't heard before. :no:

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

keep everything aside in the interview ,this was suppose to be positive right then show me one headline in paper which is positive after this interview ,those who are supporting this ,please show me one positive headline .*i am waiting*

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Michael said in the past that the boys were quieter whilst Paris is strong and stands up for herself which is evident here. They're just such amazing kids even though seeing them all grown up really un-nerves me as I remember them when they were just babies. Makes me feel old lol! Michael did such an amazing job with those children. Paris won't take any crap being said about her dad that's for sure!

 

[twinklEE]

Well Oprah got what she wanted which was her highest rated show of the year so far

http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/opr...-show-hits-season-high-with-the-jackson-kids/

Oprah Posts 600th Week As No.1 Talk Show & Hits Season High With The Jackson Kids
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Tuesday November 9, 2010 @ 10:57am PST
Tags: Daytime Talk Shows, Oprah, Oprah Final Season, Oprah Jackson Family Interview, Oprah Michael Jackson Parents/Kids, Oprah No.1 Rated, Oprah Ratings, Oprah Winfrey, The Oprah Winfrey Show, TV

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Oprah's highly publicized sitdown with Michael Jackson's parents and kids yesterday drew an 8.1 household rating, a season high for the talk show queen, now in the final season of her syndicated talk show. The episode, Oprah Talks To Michael Jackson’s Mother, Katherine, And Visits With His Children, was also Oprah's highest-rated episode in a year, since her interview with Sarah Palin last November. Oprah, of course, had a ratings smash with her 1993 Michael Jackson special. Also today, the most recent syndication national ratings were released, and Oprah marked its 600th consecutive week in a row as the No.1 talk show on television. After a string of low summer, the show has picked up steam this fall as it heads into its September 2011 finale.

She used and abused Michael again, that ....
I cant stand her but to be fair here those who participated in this and made a mockery of Michael did so willingly in order to promote whatever interest they got. In this case the book.

 

[ilmjj]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

keep everything aside in the interview ,this was suppose to be positive right then show me one headline in paper which is positive after this interview ,those who are supporting this ,please show me one positive headline .*i am waiting*

As long as waiting is all you do. Please don't hold your breath


The kids are so great. They are a beautiful reflection of our beloved Michael:wub:

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

As long as waiting is all you do. Please don't hold your breath


The kids are so great. They are a beautiful reflection of our beloved Michael:wub:

if i start holding my breath on issues regarding jackson family ,i would be dead by now :dropdead: :blink:

 

[mjlovergurl003]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

i did not see the interview i wasnt home when it was on and even if i was i wasnt sure if i would have watched it to begin with. ive only read a few posts in this thread and so far i see everyones points and i agree with them. the kids being on tv and giving a interview to of all people oprah is sad but in some sence it was a good thing because it gave the world a chance to hear once for all how good a father michael was to his children and hoppefully shine light on how much they loved him and how much he loved them. i dont agree with any member of the family giving interviews and airring any dirty laundry about michael or talking about him being addicted to drugs and anything eles that is private and should only remain in the family. who dont know why Katherine gave Oprah this interview knowing full well that she would get in to everything that everyones talked about since michael died. whatever her reasons where we may not know for awhile or ever. from some of the clips of seen on the interview and reading what was said makes me wonder whats really going on and why katherine would agree to be on oprah and say some of the things that she did say.maybe she didnt realise she was saying it wrong or just mean for it to sound the way that some of what she said came out or sounded but whats done is done. as fans we know the truth and we've done our research and we know why michael got plastic surgeries and why he was on the medications that he was on before he died and we know he didnt have a drug problem.whats sad is that he will forever have the label as a drug addict no matter what we say or do and with the family saying what they have been it wont make it any easier. its sad but true.

Then of course theres the child molester label that yes yet to ever die and with Oprah ALWAYS asking those questions in ANY interview to gives to anyone associated or prevouisly associated with Michael they always say things like they werent there and they didnt see anything. that doesnt really help even of their intentions are to "set the record the straight". Katherine does her best to speak up and defend Michael and so do the people that we know can be trusted but there is alway something thats going to be said by anyone who talks about michael publicly that is going to eather make things worse or just cause more speculation about him being pedofile.

Like i stated before i didnt see the interview so theres not whole lot i can say about it im speaking about what ive read here and what little i have seen and read about the interview. i will say though when i saw a clips Paris talking about how michael was the best father and the best cook it just warmed my heart and it just showed how much she loved him and how much her and her brothers miss him. i though they all held their own and spoke very well.

 

[Ashtanga]

Well Oprah got what she wanted which was her highest rated show of the year so far

http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/opr...-show-hits-season-high-with-the-jackson-kids/

Oprah Posts 600th Week As No.1 Talk Show & Hits Season High With The Jackson Kids
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Tuesday November 9, 2010 @ 10:57am PST
Tags: Daytime Talk Shows, Oprah, Oprah Final Season, Oprah Jackson Family Interview, Oprah Michael Jackson Parents/Kids, Oprah No.1 Rated, Oprah Ratings, Oprah Winfrey, The Oprah Winfrey Show, TV

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Oprah's highly publicized sitdown with Michael Jackson's parents and kids yesterday drew an 8.1 household rating, a season high for the talk show queen, now in the final season of her syndicated talk show. The episode, Oprah Talks To Michael Jackson’s Mother, Katherine, And Visits With His Children, was also Oprah's highest-rated episode in a year, since her interview with Sarah Palin last November. Oprah, of course, had a ratings smash with her 1993 Michael Jackson special. Also today, the most recent syndication national ratings were released, and Oprah marked its 600th consecutive week in a row as the No.1 talk show on television. After a string of low summer, the show has picked up steam this fall as it heads into its September 2011 finale.

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She used and abused Michael again, that ....
I cant stand her but to be fair here those who participated in this and made a mockery of Michael did so willingly in order to promote whatever interest they got. In this case the book.

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Exactly!

 

[yaazgurl]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I don't think any of this has been proven regarding Lupus being the reason his nose changed so much. The autopsy never mentioned Lupus, am I right? It might be true but who knows this for sure...

The skin color is a different issue. I was talking about Katherine's opinion about his nose surgeries. For whatever reason, it's just her opinion. Just like us, she herself may not know the exact reasons he did what he did.

All I'm saying is I think people are being too tough on Katherine and it makes me feel uncomfortable, remembering how much Michael looked up to her and loved her.

No. its the skin color change that's the big issue that you don't want to admit. Its what everyone is really referring to when they say he changed his appearance. The nose is a smoke screen for why isn't Michael's skin black anymore. There's no other drastic change. Just admit it. People don't want to accept that he had vitiligo. They hear it but they don't want to accept it.

 

[Ashtanga]

People don't want to accept that he had vitiligo. They hear it but they don't want to accept it.

Unfortunately, true. I still see many people saying that Michael did not want to be black and was white... why he wanted.