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could michael be out there somewhere??

mysterygirl7 said:
I like ur post from yesterday Topflux, ur arrogant bastard ;-)
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I like you too. Mystery tasted good back in days. I have unopened cans reminding. Drinking it made me happy when I was unhappy. So much memories...
 
You know what if it helps why not?!!!
I have been looking at all the hoax evidence and it looked really good and gave me hope....
BUT now most off them don't post anymore and one that has met Yuri Geller is stopped... pretty much weird in my book.
He was sooo determent...but it helped me for a while...now i see different things...the sad eyes and tears off Michael's mum on Oprah!
I follow Luna Jo on you tube that is just to find out more what was going on about Michael not really a Hoax it is very interesting to see .....she has 2 ....What Did happened to Michael Jackson?? And what did happened on June 25th?
It is about what sort off people Michael was dealing with.....and this is very good i wish she couild put it all on T.V one day that will open a lot off peoples eyes.....
That made me think well if he is Good Luck to Michael i can understand it if he did.....
And if not well we have to learn to live with it....
But "if" he one day shows up I would be crying happy tears :)
 
Billy gene said:
You know what if it helps why not?!!!
I have been looking at all the hoax evidence and it looked really good and gave me hope....
BUT now most off them don't post anymore and one that has met Yuri Geller is stopped... pretty much weird in my book.
He was sooo determent...but it helped me for a while...now i see different things...the sad eyes and tears off Michael's mum on Oprah!
I follow Luna Jo on you tube that is just to find out more what was going on about Michael not really a Hoax it is very interesting to see .....she has 2 ....What Did happened to Michael Jackson?? And what did happened on June 25th?
It is about what sort off people Michael is dealing with.....and this is very good i wish she couild put it all on T.V one day that will open a lot off peoples eyes.....
That made me think well if he is Good Luck to Michael i can understand it if he did.....
And if not well we have to learn to live with it....
But "if" he one day shows up I would be crying happy tears :)
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I know he of course could be dead but there are some really weird stuff before and even after that day. If he was alive I wouldn't see any reasons why he would show up but knowing him, I think he could have already and no one would really understand it's him. He loves that and even more after being 40 years in the public eye...
 
Topflux said:
I like you too. Mystery tasted good back in days. I have unopened cans reminding. Drinking it made me happy when I was unhappy. So much memories...
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Yes, it would make ur day to find it in a store..

Try watching the History trailer ones again... that is HUGE...
 
angelofinnocence said:
Michael HAS GONE. deal with it.
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Why should we? I think it's not disrespectful to imagine him living still. And it's not even stupid regarding everything we know. He dreamed living like ordinary people. Timing is just very confusing...
 
It would be the most disgusting thing in human history if Michael just popped up one day and said 'Just kidding, I've been alive this whole time!'. If anyone played that prank you'd be like WTF you sick person. You honestly think it's amusing or appropriate to kid/pretend about dying? Well it's not. It's not a funny or even light subject to be touched upon.

Michael would not be crucified by just the media, but by every one on earth. How do you think the average person would react? Joking about being dead WTF.

You honestly think anyone would go into hiding? What the hell's the point? What about his children? What about his family? His music? His life? Michael at least had all those things when he was alive. If what people are stupidly suggesting is true.. can you imagine how lonely and isolated he would be? He's ****** Michael Jackson - EVERYONE KNOWS WHO HE IS.

You'd be absolutely stupid to believe anyone would be happy if Michael turned up one day after pretending to be dead for 2 years.

Get real.
 
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Topflux said:
If some of you think you understood Michael you surely didn't. No one really did because no others were living such a famous life like him, and in the modern age. No presidents or kings, no one.

You can try to prove how he really passed away 'naturally', but if you are a fan you know he would have never named his tour 'This is it' and just laughing when launching something like that. Even if all the rest seemed 'natural', a tour called 'This is it' would remain as unnatural as something Michael Jackson related just could be.

You will probably understand more later, or sooner.
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Oo playing the 'if you're a real fan' card are we?

That'll convince me.. lol
 
I think it taints his legacy and what he stood for in this world to even suggest he would do such a thing for ANY reason
Plus the fact he would be staying in the background allowing all that has been going on without a peep is demeaning of
his character . Just my humble opinion.
 
Gonetoosoon said:
It would be the most disgusting thing in human history if Michael just popped up one day and said 'Just kidding, I've been alive this whole time!'. If anyone played that prank you'd be like WTF you sick person. You honestly think it's amusing or appropriate to kid/pretend about dying? Well it's not. It's not a funny or even light subject to be touched upon.

Michael would not be crucified by just the media, but by every one on earth. How do you think the average person would react? Joking about being dead WTF.

You honestly think anyone would go into hiding? What the hell's the point? What about his children? What about his family? His music? His life? Michael at least had all those things when he was alive. If what people are stupidly suggesting is true.. can you imagine how lonely and isolated he would be? He's ****** Michael Jackson - EVERYONE KNOWS WHO HE IS.

You'd be absolutely stupid to believe anyone would be happy if Michael turned up one day after pretending to be dead for 2 years.

Get real.
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How do you know what could be the reasons (people change i.e. their id if their lives are threatened). We could very well hear the reasons sooner or later. Why do you say he would be kidding? He would have been only kidding with his enemies and media. At least we saw already he was really tired about everything because of his many interviews, speeches, song lyrics, his tour was called 'This is it'.. I wonder why he didn't try to 'retire' already before because it was so hard to create joyful stuff anymore. It started in 90's and went just worse and worse. When things started to look better there came every time so horrible stuff and ruined all. We don't know what happened right before 25th. But since that day I've had very bad feelings about everything. There must have been something very fishy going on. Dr Murray is a small piece in this, that's how I feel.
 
Btw, at least I have never said he would pop out and brag how he was fooling everyone. I think if he changed his id he probably will hide for the rest of his life. Why would he come back as King Of Pop if he just wanted to be like everyone else. But, he could actually write music when hiding.
 
Gonetoosoon said:
It would be the most disgusting thing in human history if Michael just popped up one day and said 'Just kidding, I've been alive this whole time!'. If anyone played that prank you'd be like WTF you sick person. You honestly think it's amusing or appropriate to kid/pretend about dying? Well it's not. It's not a funny or even light subject to be touched upon.

Michael would not be crucified by just the media, but by every one on earth. How do you think the average person would react? Joking about being dead WTF.

You honestly think anyone would go into hiding? What the hell's the point? What about his children? What about his family? His music? His life? Michael at least had all those things when he was alive. If what people are stupidly suggesting is true.. can you imagine how lonely and isolated he would be? He's ****** Michael Jackson - EVERYONE KNOWS WHO HE IS.

You'd be absolutely stupid to believe anyone would be happy if Michael turned up one day after pretending to be dead for 2 years.

Get real.
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:clap: I agree with everything u said here. Come on guys do u all honsetly belive michael would do such a thing!!?? he was a great father and there is no way he would do that to his kids- NEVER!

Not only that why the heck would forest lawn have a tomb there under michael's name if there was no corpse in there...it just doesnt make any sense at all
 
Topflux said:
Why should we? I think it's not disrespectful to imagine him living still. And it's not even stupid regarding everything we know. He dreamed living like ordinary people. Timing is just very confusing...
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YES it is disrespectful and offensive as hell spinning some nonsense around somebody's death and luring instable fans into this conspiracy by posting it over and overr again. How would you feel if u were dead and someone would make up u were still living giving those who love u a false hope?! This thread is SICK
 
He has no reason to hide he loved his fans and family and he loved entertaining and bringing joy to the world
he had a message he wanted to give the world. He would have couragiously done that had he not been so
rudly interupted by an inconsidearate selfish DR who cause his death.

Michael Jackson was a Brave courageous MAN and woudl NEVER Run
away from his problems or leave the world in such sadness & turmoil
NEVER ... In my opinion to say he would is an insult to his character
and all he stood for in this world.
 
Gonetoosoon said:
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Michael would not be crucified by just the media, but by every one on earth.
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Everyone?

Probably a good sized number, yes, but I wouldn't say "everyone."


When will the two sides of this debate learn to not presume that each know and understand the man more than the other?


EDIT: Actually, I think I may be able to answer my own question partially.

What we are dealing with is the very natural response to self-perservation from facing a pain that one feels would be too hard to take. This is what propels us sometimes to debate our point with extreme zeal.

Looking at one side, for those who have accepted Michael's death from the beginning, the possibility of his returning alive after all the months of they having accepted his being gone... which on a daily basis is still almost too painful to bear...to realize they had gone through this pain, when it was not based on truth, would be too much for them. Just plain too much. Imagine?

The other side, after months of hanging on to hope to finally come to that place of knowing absolutely that Michael who they love is truly, truly gone and will never be back on this earth, and knowing they have held on to something all this time that was delusional and not based on truth, would be too much for them. Just plain too much. Imagine?

That is why when each faction is communicating with the other there needs to be the utmost sensitivity and understanding for both parties. Trying to change the perspective of the other through arguing and debate, will accomplish no change in anyone's mind. Only time will change one's beliefs and perspective.

There are those that are not neatly placed in either group but are on the fence and are trying to remain objective. And of course their stance should equally be respected and they should be sensitive when communicating with the other two groups of thought.

There is a lot of indignation going on that is causing some to feel justified in being too forceful in their arguments for their side. Please rethink this.
 
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could michael be out there somewhere??



Sorry :( But I dont think so :no:
We just have to face the reality, try to move on and make him proud.

Or if you are a spiritual person (like me) you can think Mike now is everywhere, the heat of the sun, the rays of the moon, birds that pass by or babies who laugh :heart: , yes I know I am corny :mello: so what :coffee:
 
8701girl said:
:clap: I agree with everything u said here. Come on guys do u all honsetly belive michael would do such a thing!!?? he was a great father and there is no way he would do that to his kids- NEVER!

Not only that why the heck would forest lawn have a tomb there under michael's name if there was no corpse in there...it just doesnt make any sense at all
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People don't understand. They always say 'why would have he done this for his kids'. Probably without doing something like that it would have been much worse for his children. We should know reasons before judging him. The whole thing could be for example a sting operation?
 
Topfluz, No one is judging him
There is nothing to judge becuase he didnt do anything to judge.
and to bring in all kinds of speculation and conspiracy with no proof
isnt a reason to believe he did do anything (fake his death)

we can say he could of done this or that all day long. like it could have been a sting operation
It means nothing. Its just someones specualtion with no facts to to base it on but ones imagination
 
Topflux said:
If some of you think you understood Michael you surely didn't. ...
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I saw how he called Tommy Mottola devilish while being filmed, not hiding on some board. I saw him walk into a court room, day in and day out, when most people would have chosen to jump off the nearest balcony after that amount of sh*t that he went through for years and years.

So yeah, contrary to your assessment that everyone else doesn't understand, many of us know what a brave soul he is. And no, I am not 'judging' him as you wrote in another posting.

Judging him, for what? For being the victim of a crime? You've got some nerve. Some people have such a hard time accepting beloved MJ was also human and capable of dying like the rest of us will.

Not being with his children IS the worst thing for him, I can't for the life of me (no pun intended) understand how that one doesn't seem painfully obvious to anybody who even attempts to understand the man Michael Jackson.
 
Topflux said:
People don't understand. They always say 'why would have he done this for his kids'. Probably without doing something like that it would have been much worse for his children. We should know reasons before judging him. The whole thing could be for example a sting operation?
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A sting operation my butt! im sorry but that is just utter rubbish. The man loved & lived for his children and wanted to see them grow up and you are telling me he did this on purpose or something......like what the??? i doubt it
 
Amen Qbee and others..Wake UP people,. The man is DEAD. Let us keep his memory alive...even though he's dead. And he is dead.

qbee said:
He has no reason to hide he loved his fans and family and he loved entertaining and bringing joy to the world
he had a message he wanted to give the world. He would have couragiously done that had he not been so
rudly interupted by an inconsidearate selfish DR who cause his death.

Michael Jackson was a Brave courageous MAN and woudl NEVER Run
away from his problems or leave the world in such sadness & turmoil
NEVER ... In my opinion to say he would is an insult to his character
and all he stood for in this world.
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8701girl said:
A sting operation my butt! im sorry but that is just utter rubbish. The man loved & lived for his children and wanted to see them grow up and you are telling me he did this on purpose or something......like what the??? i doubt it
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Why you doubt? It's Michael Jackson, come on. It's underestimating if you doubt something without knowing anything.
 
qbee said:
He has no reason to hide he loved his fans and family and he loved entertaining and bringing joy to the world
he had a message he wanted to give the world. He would have couragiously done that had he not been so
rudly interupted by an inconsidearate selfish DR who cause his death.

Michael Jackson was a Brave courageous MAN and woudl NEVER Run
away from his problems or leave the world in such sadness & turmoil
NEVER ... In my opinion to say he would is an insult to his character
and all he stood for in this world.
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You don't know his reasons. You know zero what was going on behind the scenes like ten to twenty years.
 
I'm not an okkultist but no doubt it makes you wonder, how this can be just coincidence:
- Michael used many times (especially on HIStory cover) the number 777. Then his memorial was on the 7th day of the 7th month, exactly 7 years after his will.
- Michael used 2040 on his spaceship. 25 + 6 + 2009 = 2040 = 27 + 1 + 2012 (there's Immortal concert that date at the same place where his memorial was).

Weird.
 
Topflux said:
Why you doubt? It's Michael Jackson, come on. It's underestimating if you doubt something without knowing anything.
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The reason why i doubt it cuz i know michael would never ever do that to his family, children, friend & fans as he would know it would make him look bad if he did so. Do u really think michael would do that to his loved ones & hurt them like that, i dont think so.
 
Ok ppl the the thing is that it just dosent make any sense ok? I have read some of those theories and they dont hold, they are full of holes and questions and when you ask those ppl tell you " make your own investigation" "You are not ready for the truth" bla bla bla.... The truth is Mike is gone... yes it hurts, but is the truth.

How ever I dont judge ppl how choose to believe Mike made this whole hoax thing up because most of them are just too scared or to hurt to admit the facts:

There are lots of ppl who saw him dead
There is a trial going on because of his dead
There is no good reason for him to fake his dead
PPl die everyday, Michael was mortal, he had to die one day. This was just sooner that we all wanted.
Sorry hun but he is gone, and the sooner you face it the faster you will get to move on and feel better.
:hug:
 
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