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The verdict thread .. GUILTY.. Murray remanded without bail

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Petrarose said:
Drew who claimed Michael did not have that skin condition because he had some black patches, is now running his mouth claiming that we should not be too happy because 2 lives were lost. I am sure he is only saying that because Michael's killer was found guilty. When he was making disparaging remarks about Michael did he not think about the life that was lost?
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Pshaw Drew isn't even a real doctor. Nobody cares what he thinks--guy's kind of a joke.

@Ramona: Yeah, you're totally right. Bittersweet, Pyrrhic, ...all of those things. =(
 
Severus Snape said:
Pshaw Drew isn't even a real doctor. Nobody cares what he thinks--guy's kind of a joke.

@Ramona: Yeah, you're totally right. Bittersweet, Pyrrhic, ...all of those things. =(
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Agree, Drew wants everyone to be an addict so he can get paid. I used to respect the guy because one of my favorite shows were sober house and rehab and I thought he cared for his guests. But, seeing how this guy has treating Michael over these last two years had disgusted me. I'm not a fan who hate people who don't think highly of Michael, but the fact that he bend facts to suite his own needs is wrong, no matter who you are. He's no different than the Rabbi, a self-serving jackass.

As for today, I think we can finally begin to move on from Murray. Once the judge gives him whatever sentence, I am done with that man. I don't even hate him because he's worth it. Hating him gives him power and I don't plan to give him any. Whatever he does, that's between him and God, and he better pay for mercy and forgiveness when his day comes.
 
Vaneela_w said:
Yes I hear that...but I think they're right...he should have been there...I mean the credit is all Walgren's :)
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Don't worry when we send Walgren his gifts they will realize who was the real hero in the office.
 
bluetopez said:
Dr. Drew thinks that the auptospy doesn't show a healthy MJ because of MJ lungs. He said it shows someone that wasn't getting proper air into his lungs from using long term propofol and it caused damaged to his lungs?
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and he'll be wrong. it was due to Pleurisy which is due to lupus. and his lung problems has been reported for decades.

And he says the insomnia came from withdrawl from the demoral and that's why Murray used Benzos and Propofol to counter the insomnia...He is claiming things that wasn't even brought up in trial? o_O
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they claimed that during the trial but the issue is again he had insomnia for decades. how could it be due to demerol when he had this issue for decades?
 
Why are people surprised Murray got taken away. Back in 2005 when Michael was waiting for his verdict I read i think Tom Messereau said Michael would have been taken away if the jury found him guilty right then. Michael was treated worse than how Murray has been treated. Michael was innocent. Seeing Murray in those handcuffs and hearing the word guilty was justice. He has enjoyed his life as if he did nothing wrong and now he is finally being held accountable for what he did.
 
So many are shocked that Murray was sent to jail after the verdict. I think the judge did it because he knows that with the overcrowding in LA County Jails and Prisons this may be the only time he will serve behind bars. Los Angeles county is so screwed up he will proobably be given home detention and an ankle bracelet. Look at Lindsy Lohan, she served less than 5 hours on a 30 day sentence.
 
*~MJLovesMJ~* said:
I just came from the store; there was a van parked in front under the light, and hanging from the rear-view mirror, was a bright white knited cross. I've recently pondered becoming an athiest, since I've lost a lot of faith... yet I think seeing this cross, it's enstilled my belief once again. Maybe it's just a fluke, but I'd like to think that it's a real sign. I've never seen that van b4, and on this night, of all nights, although I had tears in my eyes, it gave me some more comfort. Justice was served, and I'm certain now that some higher power (along with common-sense, compassion) was involved.
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Waw thanks for this very beautiful and touching experience.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
Pastor aint gonna let murray go anywhere but the big house. hes showed his feelings. cant wait to hear him address murray in sentencing day. ive got work that day but im gonna cancel one last time for mike.
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Yeap and don't forget Pastor knows that Muarry has been making a movie and hanging out on the beach and still claiming that Michael was begging. I loved when Walgren showed that if Michael was begging it would be the time when Muarry was on the phone, so did Muarry hear him and ignore him. That summations was epic.
 
marebear said:
I think emotionally we are drained. We waited a long time for today.
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That's what I think too.I shed some tears when they announced they had a verdict,out of stress and nervousness,I guess.
I then started crying when I heard the verdict and while watching Murray in handcuffs.I was crying and smiling at the same time,with all sort of mixed emotions inside.
I then felt relief and then I felt very tired all of a sudden.I have this strange hole in my chest and I feel numb too.It's nearly 5am and I should probably try to get some sleep,but I'm sitting here,doing nothing,really.I just don't know what to do with myself.
 
MSNBC to Air Documentary About Conrad Murray Trial Four Days After Guilty Verdict
6:45 PM PST 11/7/2011 by Kimberly Nordyke

"Michael Jackson and the Doctor" will chronicle the doctor's involuntary manslaughter case from his point of view and reveal personal details of his relationship with the singer.

Not long after Dr. Conrad Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in relation to the death of Michael Jackson came word that a documentary about the trial is already completed.

MSNBC said Monday that Michael Jackson and the Doctor will have its U.S. premiere at 10 p.m. ET Friday. The program chronicles the trial from the points of view of Murray and his defense team, giving "an exclusive look into the past two years of Murray’s life."

Murray will reveal personal details of his relationship with Jackson, his role within the singer's family life, the intense pressures that Jackson felt leading up to his tour and what happened the day Jackson died.

The doc, directed by Tom Roberts, is from October Films, which spent two years with Murray and his defense team. It also will take viewers behind the closed-door meetings with Murray's attorneys.

On Tuesday, NBC's Today will air a preview of the doc, which will repeat on MSNBC at 9 p.m. ET Sunday.

Michael Jackson and the Doctor is an October Films and What's It All About? Productions co-production in association with MSNBC.
Zodiak Rights controls worldwide distribution rights to the documentary and has already secured pre-sales with broadcasters around the world, including Channel 4 in the U.K. and Nine Network in Australia.

Zodiak also said Monday that it has acquired international rights to an exclusive news interview with Murray that was conducted by U.K. broadcaster Steve Hewlett on Oct. 30. The company said this is the only interview Murray plans to give.


Jackson died June 25, 2009, of acute propofol intoxication after suffering cardiac arrest in his home. Murray, Jackson’s personal physician, had been charged with administering the fatal dose.

Following the reading of the verdict, Murray was remanded to custody without bail. He will be sentenced on Nov. 29 at 8:30 a.m. PT and could face up to four years in prison and lose his medical license.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-258400?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
they claimed that during the trial but the issue is again he had insomnia for decades. how could it be due to demerol when he had this issue for decades?
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Right, but the crazy part is Murray was acting as if he didn't know anything about Klein so how can he claim anything he was doing was because of demorol withdrawl in the first place? SMH
 
ExoticPrincess said:
Did you all see the footage of Murray coming from church yesterday? man oh man, his prayers surely went unanswered!lol
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Exotic his prayers were answered. He asked God for justice and God sent justice; that is why Muarry was found guilty.
 
How was Murray allowed to do a Documentary? And for what purpose? To repeat the very things that landed his ass in jail a few hrs ago? WIERD!? o_O
 
If Dr. Drew is the same guy who co-hosted LoveLine with Adam Carolla I'm not sure why anyone would get upset with anything that fool says. As far as the trial, the jury returned the correct verdict, I just wish there was more than one count. I'm surprised by my response to all this. I'm honestly a little bitter and angry. Of course not at the verdict but at the whole spectacle of it all. The quest for justice has sunken to an excuse to judge and condemn the victim strictly because he was different. I've read more condemnation of Michael Jackson, his character and lifestyle and I've seen little criticism of Murray's greed and standard of care. So many of us have lost our souls and basic compassion and its sad. Hopefully this in some way brings some closure to Michael's family and Conrad Murray's family. For the record, so many people toss around the word addict like a slur. Addicts (not saying that Michael was one) have rights too. They have a right to equal protection under the law and they don't deserve substandard care because they "asked for it". Where Conrad Murray and Dr Waldman have been a disgrace, David Walgren and Ms Brazil have been a credit to their profession. That should make people like Brian Oxman feel ashamed for calling themselves lawyers.
 
Thank you God, Michael, the Prosecution, the fans, MJJC and everyone else who helped during this difficult time.

I am happy that he's been convicted yet I am still very very angry about everything that has happened. I posted my feelings on facebook:
We TOLD you, the whole world, that Murray is guilty and that Michael Jackson did NOT ask to die, did NOT do it himself, did NOT commit suicide but guess what? You thought we were crazy, you blamed Michael for HIS death. You blamed the innocent man, as usual. The verdict is GUILTY, two years after the fans have been screaming it. Do you believe us NOW?!
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So Mr Murray has found a way to pay his bills. Hope NBC and their partners are not thinking of surpassing TIT documentary. And the explioting of MJ knows no end.

Murray is wounded and on the take. Big money will be thrown at him to say outrageous stuff about MJ and the kids.
 
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Well, this is failtastic! So, we'll get a behind-the-scenes VIP treatment and witness how the trainwreck (Murray's defence) was put together. If Chernoff and Flanagan (and I reckon Baldy, too) know what's good for them, they'll want nothing at all to do with this "documentary." Their client I think is embarrassment enough...
 
ivy said:
and he'll be wrong. it was due to Pleurisy which is due to lupus. and his lung problems has been reported for decades.



they claimed that during the trial but the issue is again he had insomnia for decades. how could it be due to demerol when he had this issue for decades?
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Ivy thats the truth but have you noticed that the panels never have anyone who will interject these facts or point out where the host (e.g., Drew) is in error. They always get people on the panel who think like themselves. The sad thing is that many people look to the media for knowledge, which may be the reason many people are misinformed on a number of subjects.

By the way I heard a new variation of the conspiracy theory today: Muarry recorded Michael because there was a plan to kill him and they wanted evidence that Michael was on drugs and killed himself, that is why Muarry is the fall guy. One of my clients mom told me this one.
 
bluetopez said:
How was Murray allowed to do a Documentary? And for what purpose? To repeat the very things that landed his ass in jail a few hrs ago? WIERD!? o_O
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Who except the media and some foolish people is going to believe anything Muarry has to say to save himself after the fact!!! The good thing about this doc is that AEG will use some of the things Muarry says in it to avoid culpability which will help them in that phony case filed by he family.
 
NBC, Nine Network, C4 to rush to air Conrad Murray doc
Adam Benzine

NBC, MSNBC, Australian broadcaster Nine Network and UK net Channel 4 are among the broadcasters that will rush to air a documentary boasting exclusive access to Dr Conrad Murray (pictured), who was today convicted for the involuntary manslaughter of late singer Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson and the Doctor: A Fatal Friendship (1 x 50-minutes) and an accompanying exclusive news interview with Murray (1 x 15-minutes) have both been produced by UK indie October Films, in association with What’s It All About? Productions.

The documentary, from director Tom Roberts, promises to explore “the surreal world inhabited by Jackson in the last three months of his life,” while also examining “his fatal friendship with the doctor he handpicked to care for himself and his children.”

The two companies secured exclusive access to Murray in November 2009, prior to him being charged, and “filmed with Dr Murray throughout the intervening two years and have continued to record with him during the trial,” according to Zodiak Rights, which is handling distribution and pre-sales for the project.

Jane Millichip, executive producer for Zodiak Rights, said: “The combination of unique access and first-rate filmmaking make this documentary and news interview truly landmark television. The collaboration of MSNBC, NBC, Nine Network and Channel 4 has been vital in delivering this great piece of television.”

Nine Network in Australia is slated to be first off the block, airing the documentary this coming Thursday (November 10), while MSNBC in the U.S. will air the documentary a day later (November 11), at 10 p.m. EST and again on Sunday (November 13) at 9 p.m. EST. Channel 4 in the UK will also transmit later this week.

Zodiak said it has brought on board more than 10 more international broadcasters who will swiftly follow with their transmissions.

The exclusive news interview with Murray was conducted by UK-based journalist Steve Hewlett on Sunday, October 30, and is billed as the only interview Murray will conduct.

Adam Bullmore, executive producer for October Films, said: “Made with remarkable levels of access and complete editorial independence, we believe this film was the most complete and accurate story of what really happened to Michael Jackson and Conrad Murray on June 25, 2009, and why.”

The news comes after a jury today found the Texas physician, who administered a powerful surgical anesthetic to Michael Jackson hours before his death in 2009, guilty of involuntary manslaughter following a six-week trial. Murray now faces up to four years in prison and the suspension of his medical license.

http://realscreen.com/2011/11/07/nbc-nine-network-c4-to-rush-to-air-conrad-murray-doc/#ixzz1d5A4wMWC
 
You know, I love my family, but I don't agree with everything they say. I was driven home from the hospital by my grandparent's both are typically young for grandparents, old souls. We're listening to the verdict on the radio, it's heard, my grandfather immediately goes into this rant about how Murray is just a fall guy. Old people, though I love them.

However my Grandfather did say one thing that I can agree on, Michael wasn't able to do 50 shows at his age, IMHO, now that I think about it. We wanted to see Michael give us his all, and the love Michael shared with us made Michael want to give us his all, but at 50? We have to ask ourselves if that were to be really possible. We'll never know, but when James Brown got older, he couldn't give it his all anymore, he gave it to us in pieces, but he couldn't go all out anymore, yet his "pieces" could never be duplicated by anyone else. Same goes for Michael I believe.

What I'm saying is, this verdict may bring some closure, but at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves what does it solve? It doesn't bring Michael back, and however we look at it, whether he had a competent doctor who wasn't greedy, or whether he just said "NO!" to the 50 shows and kept it at 18 or whatever, this didn't have to happen. It shouldn't have happened.

Oh, Michael, so many of us would be much happier right now if you just realized that we all still loved you with every inch of our soul and being, and you didn't have to please us so much, you gave us enough. But I admire you wanting to do it for your kids and the benefit of children around the world. But we wouldn't have loved you any less had you just tried to do less at this point in your life. Heck, I would've been satisfied with a comeback TV special.

I love you, and I hope you can finally rest now with this dunce behind bars. But parts of us still feel empty, and a "guilty" verdict won't change that.
 
Petrarose said:
Ivy thats the truth but have you noticed that the panels never have anyone who will interject these facts or point out where the host (e.g., Drew) is in error. They always get people on the panel who think like themselves. The sad thing is that many people look to the media for knowledge, which may be the reason many people are misinformed on a number of subjects.

By the way I heard a new variation of the conspiracy theory today: Muarry recorded Michael because there was a plan to kill him and they wanted evidence that Michael was on drugs and killed himself, that is why Muarry is the fall guy. One of my clients mom told me this one.
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If people are willing to believe a TV doctor who never met Michael over the person who cut him opened and testify he was healthy in opened court, they're no helping them.
 
All i can say is, if the jury have looked at the evidence. I trust their judgment. Despite my doubts, i think that the jury made the right decision, all im concerned about now is the omitted evidence and the Ratio Decidendi of the Jury
 
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