[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

So his family support him. Sad...

That's it the Robson family are next on my list. I can't stand them anymore now. And as for the having that crap on trial you can't have a trial against the dead that's a)it's a STUPID IDEA b) they just wanna do it for the ratings and popularity attention.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

BTW, I dont see the MJ fans reactions on the net..., I wonder why? hmmm, MJ fans have always been lazy in defending MJ on the net, and they want to click only on Mjs boards like in their own world..., come on..., BE ACTIVE!
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

pay attention to this

Some states permit postmortem defamation lawsuits, to allow the collection of monetary awards only if there is monetary damage to the reputation of the deceased, resulting in a reduction of the estate's income.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I am angry, disgusted, appalled, shocked and heartbroken! :cry: Unbelievable! So Wade has had amnesia for 20 years, how convenient. What a lowlife he is! Wade, congratulations, you are now on my sh*t-list! I hope Branca can sue his sorry ar$e for slander.
Oh and thank you T-Mez for always defending our angel. I Michael you!!! :wub:

You know, I don't really care what reason Wade had to make these disgusting claims. I don't care if it was his own motivation or AEG, the Mafia, the Illuminati, Aliens or the f*cking devil pointing a gun to his head! This is absolutely unforgivable!
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Defended Michael in 1993,2003 and now 2013 and I will continue to support the Legacy and dignity that is Michael Jackson.Haters backstabbers and money grabbers can go eat Sh&t!!
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

This is exactly what I was thinking today. If Wade truly had a breakdown he would be very susceptible to suggestion, he could also have been medicated. Scary thought.

Im sure i saw something on tv recently, a documentary on UK tv about memories, and they mentoined something about being able to be hypnotised in someway where someone can create false memories in peoples minds, and make them completely believe it is real. Did any one else see that?

But i think its more likely its just complete lies from the guy rather than an implanted false memory or whatever you want to call it
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Again with the repressed memory BS? In one fell swoop Wade Robson has degraded himself from a respectable choreographer to the likes of Joseph Bartucci, who some of you may remember as the shortly-lived original "repressed memory" accuser back in '04 that even the incompetent Brian Oxman was able to disprove (although Bartucci still uses these 15 seconds of fame as part of his "portfolio" and brags about being mentioned in Diane Dimond's book). I wonder if Michael also pounded Robson's head repeatedly into the concrete as he did Bartucci's, thus explaining the lost and recently recovered memories (/sarcasm)?

I cannot imagine this case making it to trial especially given the exculpatory evidence Robson himself provided multiple times from the 90s onward, including under oath. Recall that Robson's mother and sister also testified under oath in defense of Michael Jackson. Robson's alleged abuse, as originally defined by Tom Sneddon's team, was a fabrication supported in chief by The Neverland Five--the group of disgruntled employees who happen to once again be making airwaves to slander Michael's name thanks in no small part to the wrongful death lawsuit Michael's family is pursuing.

Although it would be excellent if Thomas Mesereau would represent Michael in this case if it ever made it that far, any lawyer would suffice. You'd hear from the same exact witnesses that you did during the '05 trial (Ralph Chacon, Kassim Abdool, Blanca Francia, etc) and the same devastating cross-examination would ensue, where they would all be widely discredited thanks to their proven record of perjury, theft, libel... And then Wade and his family would be asked to re-read to the jury their court testimony from the '05 trial and subsequent remarks about Michael. You can bet the repressed memory shrink would also be grilled undauntingly.

It's disheartening that it isn't bad enough for the Jackson family and AEG to be rebranding Michael's image as a chronic drug addict (contrary to forensic evidence), so let's now throw in another patently false molestation accusation for good measure all in the name of money.

Also, for those unaware repressed memories as a whole are generally egregious. I think Professor Richard McNally of Harvard University said it best: "Repressed memories are the most pernicious bit of folklore ever to infect psychology and psychiatry."

Even university studies from the 1990s discredited repressed memories in sexual abuse cases: "They often start by having a parent or other trusted authority figure suggest to the study subject the event is true. Not only have the first five subjects developed a memory of the false incident, she said, but they also often elaborate the story with their own details."
This!
Shout out to TSCM.
Thanks to KJ, all the loons are crawling outta of the woodwork
for a money grab.
Wade Robson is the biggest loser outta of these looney tunes.
The others have nothing to loose, just
unknowns wanting their fifteen minutes.
Joseph Bartucci was so repressed he claimed MJ stole his song
he wrote when he was 2 years old LOL!

Repressed memory is NOT a proven science

therefore it has NO legal standing in the court of LAW.
It is hoped Mez would represent the estate and have
the judge quashed this case to a pulp.
The timing of the credit claim / complaint is suspect.
Has all the makings of a diversion tactic
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I am angry, disgusted, appalled, shocked and heartbroken! :cry: Unbelievable! So Wade has had amnesia for 20 years, how convenient. What a lowlife he is! Wade, congratulations, you are now on my sh*t-list! I hope Branca can sue his sorry ar$e for slander.
Oh and thank you T-Mez for always defending our angel. I Michael you!!! :wub:

You know, I don't really care what reason Wade had to make these disgusting claims. I don't care if it was his own motivation or AEG, the Mafia, the Illuminati, Aliens or the f*cking devil pointing a gun to his head! This is absolutely unforgivable!

I do hope Branca sues Wade's @$$ too, I wanna give it a good can of whoop @$$ on him. God bless Messereau.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

BTW, I dont see the MJ fans reactions on the net..., I wonder why? hmmm, MJ fans have always been lazy in defending MJ on the net, and they want to click only on Mjs boards like in their own world..., come on..., BE ACTIVE!

Why do you presume that Michael Jackson fans are not being pro-active? This a hurtful generalisation.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Oh yes we are active unlike the relatives that are busy pursuing millions from Michael's former associates! I guess money grabbing is much more important than defending an INNOCENT MAN!!!
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

la cienega said:
The creditor had no knowledge of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim more than 30 days prior to the time for filing a claim as provided in Section 9100, and the petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of both of the following:

(A)

The existence of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim.

Oh, so that means robson must have had only 2 months between his therapy revealing this deep seated abuse, and filing the claim to qualify under these rules? Sounds quite rapid. Surely it must have taken a massive toll on him to remember all this trauma, yet he got himself together enough to decide to go for money against mj's estate, tell his family and friends, managed to find a lawyer (even though he sounds a bit suspect), get a complaint sorted and file it all in 60 days. He seems to be functioning pretty well after such a shocking discovery.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

The thing that bothers me so much about this is that he most likely won't have to prove anything. All he has to do is lay out a big elaborate abuse scenario and that's it. But personally, I think he could be lying to everybody, including his own family. I can't stand this at all.
 
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Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Oh, so that means robson must have had only 2 months between his therapy revealing this deep seated abuse, and filing the claim to qualify under these rules? Sounds quite rapid. Surely it must have taken a massive toll on him to remember all this trauma, yet he got himself together enough to decide to go for money against mj's estate, tell his family and friends, managed to find a lawyer (even though he sounds a bit suspect), get a complaint sorted and file it all in 60 days. He seems to be functioning pretty well after such a shocking discovery.

I guess that's why they said "intensive therapy", had to squeeze it into a short time period.

I wonder how he knew he had to file it within 60 days of having remembered it all?
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I don't see how this can go anywhere, he's got no objective facts. It's all just his word and speculation, nothing can be proved, obviously as its not true but even in some alternate universe where it was, how could it be proved?
 
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I guess that's why they said "intensive therapy", had to squeeze it into a short time period.

I wonder how he knew he had to file it within 60 days of having remembered it all?

it's a package that goes with repressed memories.
 
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Of course Michael can still defend himself...we have his words. And God knows.


(It says:
Let the whole world be against me, as long as God knows I'm an innocent man.
Now if the British try to find me, then Lord where will I go?
Let the whole world try to find me
Long as God knows. )
 
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GUYS DONT FORGET TO DOWNLOAD THE VIDEOS FROM YOUTUBE, because its highly possible they will be blocked, deleted or in private mode.


And screencap the DATES the videos were published! This is very important too!
 
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does cali have this law?

pay attention to this

Some states permit postmortem defamation lawsuits, to allow the collection of monetary awards only if there is monetary damage to the reputation of the deceased, resulting in a reduction of the estate's income.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Wade's sister said, on facebook,Wade's lawyer statement was the truth.
Thanks shelly. Do you perhaps have a link so we can see exactly what she posted?

Edit:
This thread is moving too fast for me to keep up.

screencap please
Would do too!
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

cause the estate could sue him. wearing a mj t.shirt sums up the family support

Why does it matter, the Califonia laws are so corrupted anyways.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

cause the estate could sue him. wearing a mj t.shirt sums up the family support

Okay. Point taken.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Wade might have had a mental breakdown from stress, I'm willing to believe that part, but everything else is made up. Whether it was the therapist planting thoughts in his head or whether he just decided to make up a lie and try to resolve his financial problems by trying to extort money from the estate or whatever, I don't know. All I know is that Wade Robson is lying.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Great! *sigh* word is spreading, family and friends are texting me news reports about this.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Rich people should be scared if they have any skeletons in their closet. Suddenly there will be people coming after them who have "repressed memories"

If Wade continues on this course I predict an Evan Chandler future for him. He will get a devastating disease and take his own life like EC did. This lie will eat him alive....

BASTARD!
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

Rich people should be scared if they have any skeletons in their closet. Suddenly there will be people coming after them who have "repressed memories"

If Wade continues on this course I predict an Evan Chandler future for him. He will get a devastating disease and take his own life like EC did. This lie will eat him alive....

BASTARD!

Yeah. Karma struck Evan for a long time and now Wade is next to by struck down by karma.
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I can't believe we're back here... after all this time, after all the bullshit we've already had to deal with over the years, we're back in this shit hole and Michael isn't even here anymore.

I'd stayed away from the boards for so long, but couldn't just pass this, can't even even beggin to describe how I feel... again
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

U know the other day i was talking to family member about the whole savile thing and i mentioned the lack of claims being made about mj after he left. i wish id kept my mouth shut now. as because of what wade has done its gonna put the idea out there for others to try this.(surprised it didnt happen already tbh) the only silver lining so to speak is that it is wade and even though the betrayal is painful its very easy to discredit him. it will be harder with a random person unlesd they are a bartucci kapon type. 4 yers on from losing mj and i cant believe we are going through this again will we ever get peace to be left alone.
Omg, Elusive, this is exactly what happened to me. Just three days ago I saw something on tv mentioning Savile and I finally decided to find out what that's all about. (I'm not from the UK and had no clue who this guy was. I thought he was still alive.) I went wiki and read his bio and an article or two and later said, "see, this is a classic case and so to all those who keep insisting Michael's a p-----, where are all the kids then? It's been almost four years and you don't see claims popping up all over the place about what a big child m------ he was, do you? And now they could speak freely and there's still NO ONE. Face the facts, people!"

:doh: Then this. Geeeeeezus. Little did we know THIS BULL$#&* had already been filed. Heartbroken. And I also pray to God that this betrayal isn't the catalyst for every conscience-lacking money grubber who ever met Michael to consider their chances for a payday. :cry: :puke: I just feel sick. Please let the judge toss this out!

Sorry, probably doesn't add anything to the convo... your comment was clear back on pg 41. Still trying to catch up.
 
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