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ScreenOrigami;4303148 said:And he wouldn’t have been shot if he wasn’t Black.
Well said. I know people who are cops and they are good people who do their job honestly and try their best to serve their community, yet they are getting so much abuse and hate due to recent events. Not every cop is a racist.
Also, we can stand up for racism without putting people like George Floyd on a pedestal. I am sick of seeing people treating George Floyd as a hero when he was the complete opposite. Yes, the guy shouldn't have been killed and I am glad that the cop who killed him got arrested, but George Floyd was no hero. He was a criminal.
Is that why half the US voted for Donald Trump and still will do so again this year? I guess that's what "Make America Great Again" is about. :rofl: America has never been great. Europeans came over and stole the land in North & South America. They made the natives speak their languages (Spanish, English, Portuguese, French, etc.) & gave them their names. "Michael" & "Jackson" did not come from any African countries. There's a Columbus Day holiday in the USA for a guy who never even set foot in North America, he landed on an island which is today Haiti & Dominican Republic and that already had people living there. Yet he's celebrated as "discovering" America. Columbus is not the first person to sail to the Americas, the Chinese sailed here before him. He's not even the first white person, the Vikings came before Columbus. North & South America itself is named after another white guy from Europe (Amerigo Vespucci).I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of the police are trying to make the world a better place, just like we do.
Look, I respect your reasonable outlook (seriously I do, both sides deserve a voice after all), but I do not know about thatI'm sure that the overwhelming majority of the police are trying to make the world a better place, just like we do.
Wow, it's all coming full circle.Is that why half the US voted for Donald Trump and still will do so again this year? I guess that's what "Make America Great Again" is about. :rofl: America has never been great. Europeans came over and stole the land in North & South America. They made the natives speak their languages (Spanish, English, Portuguese, French, etc.) & gave them their names. "Michael" & "Jackson" did not come from any African countries. There's a Columbus Day holiday in the USA for a guy who never even set foot in North America, he landed on an island which is today Haiti & Dominican Republic and that already had people living there. Yet he's celebrated as "discovering" America. Columbus is not the first person to sail to the Americas, the Chinese sailed here before him. He's not even the first white person, the Vikings came before Columbus. North & South America itself is named after another white guy from Europe (Amerigo Vespucci).
For such serious claim, we should really look on the fact and statistics, rather than feelings.
This new video released yesterday explained why black people were killed by the police at a higher portion. It's clearly not simply because the police are racist and targeting the black.
Try to see the problem in a bigger picture. Listen to the police's point of view. I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of the police are trying to make the world a better place, just like we do. Messages of anger and hate would only make the problem worse.
Linking prager U, a right wing youtube channel that is known to constantly misrepresent statistics in order to push their agenda isn't really a good look tbh.
I guess mj smashing up the car etc in B.O.W .......í ½í¸‰ what was that all about!
SmoothGangsta;4303216 said:Linking prager U, a right wing youtube channel that is known to constantly misrepresent statistics in order to push their agenda isn't really a good look tbh.
ScreenOrigami;4303220 said:The “conservatives” on the other hand seem to not even try to acknowledge the existence of systemic racism. I have seen no comment on the video I posted upthread which details what the actual problem is. Instead they come back with, “Oh, but there are good cops, too.” and “Look at the facts here on this right-wing channel.”
Nite Line;4303230 said:No one is denying that racism exists. What the “conservatives” are denying is that not every incident has to be linked to racism.
Also the “liberals” are pushing this narrative that every cop is evil, so the “conservatives” have to stand up for those brave men and women who do their job with honour and dignity.
And it’s funny how liberals deny any facts from a right wing channel, but any facts from a left wing channel or website is taken as gospel.
Nite Line;4303230 said:No one is denying that racism exists. What the “conservatives” are denying is that not every incident has to be linked to racism.
Also the “liberals” are pushing this narrative that every cop is evil, so the “conservatives” have to stand up for those brave men and women who do their job with honour and dignity.
And it’s funny how liberals deny any facts from a right wing channel, but any facts from a left wing channel or website is taken as gospel.
Nite Line;4303230 said:No one is denying that racism exists. What the “conservatives” are denying is that not every incident has to be linked to racism.
Also the “liberals” are pushing this narrative that every cop is evil, so the “conservatives” have to stand up for those brave men and women who do their job with honour and dignity.
And it’s funny how liberals deny any facts from a right wing channel, but any facts from a left wing channel or website is taken as gospel.
You can call out police brutality and you can also call out all the violent thugs rioting in the streets while hiding behind a ''We're just fighting racism'' narrative.
ScreenOrigami;4302855 said:It seems to be a touch out of sync here and there. Wasn’t sure about this at first, but I noticed it the second time around.
ScreenOrigami;4303233 said:You’re still not grasping the difference between “racism exists” and “racism is built into the system”. Once you understand systemic racism, you’ll also understand why the question is not whether or not all cops are good or bad (they’re of course not), but that they’re acting within a system that allows for these atrocious incidents to happen. The fight is against the system, not one individual cop who is just another human being.
As for my sources for facts, I’m getting my news from an impartial German news outlet, not some obscure website. https://www.tagesschau.de/
Reality exists independently of a person's political persuasion. I don't know why you're trying to label other members in here. No one is pushing a narrative that all police are evil. That's ridiculous.
Nite Line;4303333 said:I haven’t denied systemic racism. I just don’t think that George Floyd and Jacob Blake incidents are related to systemic racism.
Nite Line;4303334 said:I was replying to a person who was labelling other members in here, hence why I decided to label other members as well in response to her.
Go and say something positive about the police, especially to all these people who are protesting in the middle of a pandemic and you will get called a racist.
Just watched the "new" 2020 version.
Crap "HD" quality with no restoration and poor montage with "ken burns" iMovie effect.
Is this, for real, what Michael Jackson deserves for its legacy in the future....?
It's not crap, it's excellent and it's CURRENT. It was created by the producer of the first TDCAU videos, Spike Lee, who was commissioned by Michael himself.
Honestly I very much doubt he edited this lol. They just attached his name because he made the original video. The editing is quite bad, even though I like the fact it was made.
No, this was just a quick edit to make quick cash for the Estate. There was literally no effort involved, and they used a very delicate topic. That is not right in my honest opinion.
Stop acting as if you were MJ himself, that's cringey.
Spike Lee himself edited the 2020 new version of this music video.
You can also check his public comments about it that confirm this.
Hulkamaniac;4303150 said:Stop acting as if you were MJ himself, that's cringey.