Michael Jackson Death Investigation Complete (TMZ - merged)

Craig Riveria says.......Michael Jackson ..worth more dead that alive....
 
well to sum it up ....what was said is that there may be 2 cases one against Murray and one against the other docs involved..
 
hmmmm.....so this Craig Riveria ...he is a Senior editor......His statement speaks volumes to me ...this is what we have been says all along.....so why the LAPD are not following the money trail is beyond me.....

They also said that if second degree manslaughter is proven then Murray stand to serve 5 years plus....not nearly long enough for me........
 
there are no other doctors involved , there are 27 incidents of self prescribing by klien throughout three years . I bet my life none of them had anything to do with MJ .

there will be a case against Klien but it has nothing to do with mj .
 
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there is no other doctors involved , there is 27 incidents of self prescribing by klien throughout three years .

I guess we will have to wait ans see what crap they dig up.....Klien is definitely guilty in this case too as far as I am concerned I think he played a roll in Michael's death too....IMHO.
 
hmmmm.....so this Craig Riveria ...he is a Senior editor......His statement speaks volumes to me ...this is what we have been says all along.....so why the LAPD are not following the money trail is beyond me.....

They also said that if second degree manslaughter is proven then Murray stand to serve 5 years plus....not nearly long enough for me........

Thanks for the updates.
There's so much to be seen in this :(
 
They should lock Murray up and throw the key away. He should be in a cell till the very end. He is a freaking murderer and not a hero, he only cares about himself. Since the day Michael died until now this jackass hasn't once stated he was remorseful not once did he send his condolences to not just the family but to those three children. The first thing he did was to put a statement out saying it wasn't his fault, what a freaking joke. He kept injecting him all that stuff until this main died!!! I want this man to be locked up. He doesn't care about anyone but himself!! This man is a monster and his history proves it. He is not a doctor but a freaking murderer!!! In an ideal world Michael would get ''justice'' and Murray would be locked up. (In an ideal world Michael wouldn't have died in the first place). But since we are living in this world that man will prolly get away without being charged or a slap on his wrist.

Well said:yes: I couldnt agree more!!!!
 
It's going to be a war of words. TRUST ME!
I'm sorry, I have to say this, If this doesn't go to trial, you can garentee that there will be fans ready to kick Murray's ass if the jury lets him walk.
 
there are no other doctors involved , there are 27 incidents of self prescribing by klien throughout three years . I bet my life none of them had anything to do with MJ .

there will be a case against Klien but it has nothing to do with mj .

There ARE other docs involved.

"Dr." Thome Thome was his manager.

And then there's that Lee...
 
there are no other doctors involved , there are 27 incidents of self prescribing by klien throughout three years . I bet my life none of them had anything to do with MJ .

there will be a case against Klien but it has nothing to do with mj .


I don't know what's true, but according to this article, they are saying Klein did give it to MJ. Those expired drugs reported by TMZ - something will probably charged there too, maybe that's more serious. Not really enough evidence at this point revealed publically to my knowledge. I think it does have something to do with MJ as he wanted to be invited to the Jacksons (LKL), I could be the father, sending the lawyer to custody hearing, MJ peeing in a cup, having his employee say I was MJ lover, the ex-lover's interview on radar-online. It was all to intimidate the Jacksons & cause them embarrassment. His behavior shows a consciousness of guilt. Self-prescribing is not criminal, fines etc, loss of license to prescribe. There may be a way to get it back if you go for drug treatment for all I know. He hired a criminal & a civil attorney immdediately after MJ died. Again consciousness of guilt IMO.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/08/27/evidence-piling-dermatologist-stars-jackson-death/

Updated August 27, 2009
Evidence is Piling Up Against Dermatologist to the Stars in Jackson Death

By Jana Winter
- FOXNews
The heat is on for Michael Jackson's longtime friend and dermatologist Arnold Klein who investigators believe facilitated the years-long drug abuse that could have caused the death of the King of Pop.



The heat is on for Michael Jackson's longtime friend and dermatologist Arnold Klein who investigators believe facilitated the years-long drug abuse that could have caused the death of the King of Pop.
According to the warrant and affidavit for last Friday's raid on Mickey Fine Pharmacy in Beverly Hills, Calif. investigators were searching for records of medication Klein allegedly prescribed to himself then gave to Jackson.
Click here to see warrant (PDF).
The return — a list of items seized during the search — was filed Thursday evening in California federal court and shows that investigators seized, "60 prescriptions, 29 patient profile print-outs, three copies of DEA Forms 222 (Order Forms) and copies of inventories of controlled substances."
Law enforcement sources told FOXNews.com that Friday's search of the Beverly Hills pharmacy yielded records of Klein prescribing controlled substances to himself. ccording to the warrant for inspection and the affidavit for administrative inspection warrant, both obtained by FOXNews.com, between January 1, 2008 and July 6, 2009, Klein self-prescribed 27 controlled substances, which he filled at Mickey Fine Pharmacy and which investigators believe he gave to his friends — including Michael Jackson, who died of an apparent drug overdose on June 25.
The 60 prescriptions and 29 patient profiles were all related to the investigation into Jackson's death. The patient profiles belong to Jackson and aliases used by the star, law enforcement sources told FOXNews.com.
Investigators used the Controlled Substance Utilization Review and Evaluation System (CURES), a database of all schedule 2 through 4 drugs prescribed by doctors or dispensed by pharmacies or medical facilities in the state of California.
According to the affidavit: "The [CURES] report shows 27 prescriptions written by Dr. Klein in a self-prescribing capacity, specifically prescribing medication to himself, from March 2006 through May 2009. These prescriptions include the medications hydrocodone (Vicodin), modafinil (Provigil), diazepam (Valium), and injectable midazolam (Versed)."
A CURES report for the pharmacy revealed the same self-prescribing information found in Klein's report.
The day after FOXNews.com reported exclusively that Klein was the subject of a criminal investigation likely to culminate in charges related to medical malpractice, Klein's criminal attorney told the DEA that the dermatologist had never self-prescribed.

Self-prescribing controlled substances is in violation of California Health & Safety Code 11170 —but it is not a criminal act.
The penalties for self-prescribing include fines and a loss of a physician's DEA license to prescribe controlled substances.
Jackson died from lethal doses of the IV anesthetic propofol — which was purchased and administered by the his personal physician Conrad Murray — but investigators believe Klein's longtime facilitation of the pop star's drug habit was so egregious that it meets the threshold of a criminal act.
Investigators believe that Klein supplied Jackson with drugs obtained improperly — by self-prescribing, writing prescriptions using the names of Jackson's many aliases or giving Jackson drugs taken from his office.
In the coming weeks, investigators will focus on obtaining more records of Klein's prescribing history, law enforcement sources tellFOXNews.com.
 
I remember watching some show, can't remember what it was, and they were talking about this case and possible ramifications for many more doctors involved with Michael. One senior doctor turned around and said 'in the end of the day Michael Jackson went on international TV and told the world he was addicted to painkillers. As a doctor if a patient has a history of addiction with painkillers then you are notoriously careful about what you give them. Doctors like Klien and the rest who were giving him demerol injections constantly to a self confessed prescription drug addict is not only irresponsible it is also criminal.' I want to see Murray behind bars, but I want the rest to get theirs as well.
 
i don't know yet:this doctors are or very smart or very stupid...and this is what the police should find out because this makes the difference between murder and manslauther!Dr Murray is so incompetent that he didn't realize that so many drugs in one night will kill Michael or he is so smart and he got paid to kill Michael and now he is doing his best to fool everyone and get away with it...
 
i don't know yet:this doctors are or very smart or very stupid...and this is what the police should find out because this makes the difference between murder and manslauther!Dr Murray is so incompetent that he didn't realize that so many drugs in one night will kill Michael or he is so smart and he got paid to kill Michael and now he is doing his best to fool everyone and get away with it...

Is it really so easy to do all of this?
I can't believe all of this crap, really...! :(
 
MJ's death certificate is again published on the tabloid News of the World.

They say it would never has been published before. But e-online in July has written already an article concerning many public records.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00081/*****_cert1_81075a.jpg

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00081/*****_cert2_81072a.jpg

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Michael Jackson's Death Certificate Over-Manhandled

Wed., Jul. 22, 2009 9:02 PM PDT by Natalie Finn
Let us just say we are shocked—shocked!—by the news that Michael Jackson's death certificate has been improperly accessed, like, 300 times.

To think that the same metropolitan area that is home to people who sold info about Farrah Fawcett's cancer battle to the National Enquirer and poked through Britney Spears' medical history could possibly produce such looky-loos!

Alas, it's true.

The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that the L.A. County Coroner's Office is investigating a number of security breaches in connection with the ongoing Jackson death probe, as well as system vulnerabilities found in the computers where confidential investigation records are stored.

At least six employees are suspected of needlessly peeking at the King of Pop's death certificate (which, pending the final autopsy report, currently lists the cause as "deferred") and in some cases printing copies of it before it had become public record.

"There's only one person in the investigation of Mr. Jackson who needed to have a copy of the death certificate, and that was the investigator," coroner's office spokesman Craig Harvey told the Times.

In a July 9 email, a coroner's captain advised errant staffers to destroy any copies made of the certificate and to keep their eyes on their own paperwork from that point on, as employees are only supposed to access the Electronic Death Registration System "strictly in the performance of [their] official coroner duties."

Harvey said that no law enforcement agency has been contacted because no laws appear to have been broken, only internal protocol.

Not to mention, once again, the boundaries of good taste.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b135522_michael_jacksons_death_certificate.html
 
tabloids are banned and theres nothing new in those articles and homicide doesnt mean murder it means death at the hands of another. which could be an accident/negligence or murder
 
its been a homicide case for months. since the cause of death was announced.the article posted above. i dont know if its a new article but if it is new i dont know why as its old information from the end of august

this thread is about rumours from tmz that the police case is over and will be handed to the D.A who will decide on the charges. but thats all we know.theres no offical news
 
I don't know what's true, but according to this article, they are saying Klein did give it to MJ. Those expired drugs reported by TMZ - something will probably charged there too, maybe that's more serious. Not really enough evidence at this point revealed publically to my knowledge. I think it does have something to do with MJ as he wanted to be invited to the Jacksons (LKL), I could be the father, sending the lawyer to custody hearing, MJ peeing in a cup, having his employee say I was MJ lover, the ex-lover's interview on radar-online. It was all to intimidate the Jacksons & cause them embarrassment. His behavior shows a consciousness of guilt. Self-prescribing is not criminal, fines etc, loss of license to prescribe. There may be a way to get it back if you go for drug treatment for all I know. He hired a criminal & a civil attorney immdediately after MJ died. Again consciousness of guilt IMO.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/08/27/evidence-piling-dermatologist-stars-jackson-death/

Updated August 27, 2009
Evidence is Piling Up Against Dermatologist to the Stars in Jackson Death

By Jana Winter
- FOXNews
The heat is on for Michael Jackson's longtime friend and dermatologist Arnold Klein who investigators believe facilitated the years-long drug abuse that could have caused the death of the King of Pop.



The heat is on for Michael Jackson's longtime friend and dermatologist Arnold Klein who investigators believe facilitated the years-long drug abuse that could have caused the death of the King of Pop.
According to the warrant and affidavit for last Friday's raid on Mickey Fine Pharmacy in Beverly Hills, Calif. investigators were searching for records of medication Klein allegedly prescribed to himself then gave to Jackson.
Click here to see warrant (PDF).
The return — a list of items seized during the search — was filed Thursday evening in California federal court and shows that investigators seized, "60 prescriptions, 29 patient profile print-outs, three copies of DEA Forms 222 (Order Forms) and copies of inventories of controlled substances."
Law enforcement sources told FOXNews.com that Friday's search of the Beverly Hills pharmacy yielded records of Klein prescribing controlled substances to himself. ccording to the warrant for inspection and the affidavit for administrative inspection warrant, both obtained by FOXNews.com, between January 1, 2008 and July 6, 2009, Klein self-prescribed 27 controlled substances, which he filled at Mickey Fine Pharmacy and which investigators believe he gave to his friends — including Michael Jackson, who died of an apparent drug overdose on June 25.
The 60 prescriptions and 29 patient profiles were all related to the investigation into Jackson's death. The patient profiles belong to Jackson and aliases used by the star, law enforcement sources told FOXNews.com.
Investigators used the Controlled Substance Utilization Review and Evaluation System (CURES), a database of all schedule 2 through 4 drugs prescribed by doctors or dispensed by pharmacies or medical facilities in the state of California.
According to the affidavit: "The [CURES] report shows 27 prescriptions written by Dr. Klein in a self-prescribing capacity, specifically prescribing medication to himself, from March 2006 through May 2009. These prescriptions include the medications hydrocodone (Vicodin), modafinil (Provigil), diazepam (Valium), and injectable midazolam (Versed)."
A CURES report for the pharmacy revealed the same self-prescribing information found in Klein's report.
The day after FOXNews.com reported exclusively that Klein was the subject of a criminal investigation likely to culminate in charges related to medical malpractice, Klein's criminal attorney told the DEA that the dermatologist had never self-prescribed.

Self-prescribing controlled substances is in violation of California Health & Safety Code 11170 —but it is not a criminal act.
The penalties for self-prescribing include fines and a loss of a physician's DEA license to prescribe controlled substances.
Jackson died from lethal doses of the IV anesthetic propofol — which was purchased and administered by the his personal physician Conrad Murray — but investigators believe Klein's longtime facilitation of the pop star's drug habit was so egregious that it meets the threshold of a criminal act.
Investigators believe that Klein supplied Jackson with drugs obtained improperly — by self-prescribing, writing prescriptions using the names of Jackson's many aliases or giving Jackson drugs taken from his office.
In the coming weeks, investigators will focus on obtaining more records of Klein's prescribing history, law enforcement sources tellFOXNews.com.

I was the one who posted this article so I know what they said , they printed quotes that did not mention MJ at all , ad then added their 'opinions' or what they 'were told' .

the 27 prescriptions were self prescribed by klien through the course of three years , the employee that died last months also worked for klien for those particular three years . the raid had to do with illegal dispensing of drugs and klien claims his addict employee would get the drugs from micky pharmacy .

It HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MJ .
 
i am beyond confused...

This is all so much to take in that my tiny brain is on overload. i'm waiting for it to crash any day now and the only word i will be able to say is "Michael".

Its so painful to see all this but i want whats BEST for Michael and i want the highest punishment available for Doctor Conrad Murder.....er... I mean Murray. him laying on his back on a bed of nails with my fat ass jumping up and down on him would be a good punishment.
 
i am beyond confused...

Its so painful to see all this but i want whats BEST for Michael and i want the highest punishment available for Doctor Conrad Murder.....er... I mean Murray.

No, you had it right the first time.

this thread is about rumours from tmz that the police case is over and will be handed to the D.A who will decide on the charges. but thats all we know.theres no offical news

I wish someone could come out and Officialy say something about this news on wether it is true or not. I thought we weren't supposed to be getting info till mid January....it's only early January right now. Either way, someone needs to clear things up.
 
i doubt they will say anything. letting the fans know whats happening means letting murray know.when theres something offical to announce we will all know one or the other.
 
I have a question....

If the death certificate says Homicide how can they convict manslaughter? Or am i just asking a completely stupid question?
 
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