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thats a good point,i never thought of that,
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Maybe because he held the camera in front and to the side of him IDK
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^^Not according to the pics and video we have of him "taking" the shot which you can see a page or 2 back.
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Very well made point. Thank you!
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I have a question to all of those who think MJ faked his death.
Where in the world do you think he could possibly hide for 7 months? It just wouldn't be possible for him. Someone would notice him anywhere he went.
Where in the world do you think he could possibly hide for 7 months? It just wouldn't be possible for him. Someone would notice him anywhere he went.
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I posted several links to an island in Bahrain that MJ supposedly bought. Take it or leave it, not saying its real, just there were numerous reports of him buying and island villa in 2005.
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This pic looks like a match as well:
And being from MJJPictures, it's probably a high resolution image.
And being from MJJPictures, it's probably a high resolution image.
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Hey guys have you seen this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7pzQ4_694&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7pzQ4_694&feature=related
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That's what i belive too the whole time.
Looks very similar.
BUT!!!
I still think there are 2 or 3 different photos with slightly differences.
red/black - upper lip
blue - hand, tip of the nose
green - the finger closer to the mask in pic2
pink - shadow and the knee, the red and gold reflection from outside
yellow/white - i may be wrong here
orange - how can you fake this plastic tube in the three pix that perfect
the reflection of all there pix from outside is different.
When I first saw the picture in the papers, it didn't look real to me. Maybe because of the shock. I also thought it's some fake, because of his face looks not so thin, but more like in Dangerous era.
They maybe changed some little things, so the pix do not look identical and can be sold to different media companies like you said.
But you guys made a lot of people confused here with that picture being 'fake'. Now they think he faked his dead.
Michael is definitely dead.
He is definitely in that ambulance.
I really don't think it's fake.
P.S: these hoax videos are a lot of "fun".
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Yes and that 1985 pic is a not real either.
That's what i belive too the whole time.
Looks very similar.
But you guys made a lot of people confused here with that picture being 'fake'. Now they think he faked his dead.
Michael is definitely dead.
He is definitely in that ambulance.
I really don't think it's fake.
P.S: these hoax videos are a lot of "fun".
MJ has too much colour in his face for having a cardiac arrest, the medical equipment is too high and that is not the pic that was used to fake the ambulance pic, it was several.
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Face colour can be altered in photoshop and you know that very well. Also the ambulance had darken glass, so your face looks darken of course.
And the pic with the babys isn't either. The one above is the closest with few details from other pix.
You didn't look closely to the things I pointed out, right?
It's real get over it.
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This pic looks like a match as well:
And being from MJJPictures, it's probably a high resolution image.
Yeh, and I could find another 100 photos, that would match Michael's face, lol
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Photo taken with the Nikon D200 is a 10.2 megapixel digital single-lens reflex camera that falls between entry-level and midrange. NOT A PRO CAMERA. PAPS wouldnt use this camera.
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Again: Fake ambulance pictures do not necessarily mean MJ's death is a hoax!!! There are other reasons for selling fake pictures than that. To challenge evidences shown here only because also hoax supporters doing researches on this issue simply is stereotyped thinking and unfair. The hoax theory is a different topic. This thread is merely to show/prove that there are obvious details which provide evidence for a fraudulent falsification.
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lol First all match MJ's eye make up with the pic of the baby and the exact shape eyebrows and theyre the same. The pic you posted, MJ has heavy and dark eye makeup. Its not the pic you posted. As has been mentioned many times in this thread, the fake pic is a montage of images.
And as you said, MJs facial colour can be changed in photoshop.
With the camera that was used they wouldnt have been able to get that shot so quick through dark glass. And if he used a flash it would have just reflected.
Get of the hoax as a defense for the image being real. The image is fake. That's long been determined by MANY factors. And it was faked for only one reason = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I think its safe to say whatever bullshit this thread is promoting either to say its fake or not, the official investigation will review this photo to the extremes and identify its authenticity 100% thats something we can all agree on yes?
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Of course we do NOT agree. The photo has nothing to do with the "official" criminal investigation against Murray, whatsoever. It was SOLD. There are no doubt autopsy photos in a file that are part of the official investigation. This was not one of them.
Its pretty rash to consider it has nothing to do with the official investigation when you do not know anything about whats going on in the official investigation! But this picture should be part of the investigation, also the picture of the screen showing the 911 call, would you think the people investigating this offence would leave such thing out of the picture??? Even if it was sold or not, I dont think people here are the only ones who are questioning the authenticity of the pictures/times/dates and so on.
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I refrained to answer to you up to now as it's clear where you're coming from. But people should remember that police did not seal the house immediately and the bodyguard and personal assistant had to beg the police to be interviewed. So goodbye thorough investigation imo
I am talking in place of the evidence available to the public now. We have pictures from 23rd July, and we can be sure of autopsy, coroner pictures. But none from 24th Rehearsals other than moving images. Surely the police will look at these pictures, especially if it goes to trial a medical expert will be called to examine the procedures happening in the pics
Ok, I haven't read the whole thread now but the explanation of the fake pic doesn't seem very clear to me! Let me tell y'all why - the lying face of Mike on the fake pic (if it's really fake) isn't exactly the same lying face as on the other picture, where Mike is lying on the ground from the 30th Anniversary Celebration!
So, what's up with that?
So, what's up with that?
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I think you are probably overestimating the "thoroughness" of the investigation. Last I heard, there were only two detectives investigating, and I'm pretty sure a tabloid picture wouldn't be of that much interest, when there were official autopsy photos. Why would they be? They sure aren't investigating whether or not the pap committed fraud. That would be a matter for whoever bought the photo, or even the Jackson family. It's basically a non-issue for the poice investigation. Whether or not the tabloid believes it's a "real" photo, or they were duped, is really for them to deal with.
The POINT is, there are sufficient questions about that photo to raise the issue as a topic for discussion here. If it's fake, the ones hurt by it are the family, and the fans. I can't imagine that a tabloid photo (and those are regularly photo-shopped) would be any sort of evidence in a criminal investigation.
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None of the pictures have been examined by professionals and proved or determined being fake.
So what you or any other amateur think, it's not of relevance. Coming with bunch of pictures and comparing them and searching for similarities, doesn't prove anything. Of course you can find resemblances, it's the same face.
You and few two think the pic is fake and the other naive go with you, without thinking.
And talking about flashlight in the third pic you can see the reflected flash.
Eyebrows are permanent tattooed on his face and but still not same. On the baby pic, his right eye is slightly open.
And what's the point of this whole thing. It's seven months ago. Do you think the media would want their money from the liar back. They would never admit cause it's spend so much money for this.
If the pictures were fake, this would have been proved by now. It's not the first time, fake pictures been sold to the media.
It's like you're obsessed with these being fake. I and one other member pointed you things that show that the 3 pic have differences. And the paparazzi use professional HQ expensive cameras. And they can very well get such pictures from snap-shots.
Until professional analysis have been made and proved the pictures are fake, you can search and compare pictures all you want, you don't have the hardware and software to prove anything.
Don't force your opinion to others, especially to others here that are easily influenceable.
We know there is possibility the picture to be faked for money. But with this wish trying to prove of fakes, these hoax sites can spread the wrong impression of him faking his dead and who knows what else. And others, especially none fans would believe it.
I'm not saying we should close our eyes and not convict liars. But on this subject, we can't prove anything.
From the first time I saw the picture, I thought it's fake. But now i really can't.
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NO media photos cant be used in a death investigation UNLESS THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE CAUSE. As the cause was drug intoxication and the last time i checked, a camera cant inject an anesthetic, they wont be looked at. I had media photos that proved that the police filed false info in my fathers case but because they wern't police photos, they couldn't be used
Well, it was actually "NIKON D200" they used, which is often called a semi-professional camera, mid-range, though also used by photographers, as are lighter than te full professional cameras. Not really expensive even, comparatively. Just for info.
And I am not convinced by the argument "if the pic is fake then we would have known already". The data made available by the photographers could hide it. idk....
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Wow, the things people do for money. :no:
Look at Michaels ear, it somehow looked diffrent than before. And actually this convinced me that the picture was real back in june. But now I think that in fact it is fake, look at the pic1 post1 and comapare it to all other, it is diffrent, so basically there is not even one that matches=> there are diffrent pictures, but is it Michael there, or they photoshoped him? And indeed, everything inside the ambulance moves except Michaels face. And a picture showing the paparazi with red shirt and the one from far behind shows a pap with yellow.
red shirt
Yellow shirt and it has a cap on his hed.
If you tell me that the one with the red shirt is this on left, then how did his bag moved from the right shoulder to the left?(it was on the left shoulder but the bag was on right).Why would there be such a stupid pap who is snapping from this distance? Why are there even paps? Another thing on that far shot, do you see a red car??The awnser is yes, if you look carefully, it is on the far left.Then this picture doesn't shows the pap actually making the famous pic. Then were are the pictures that he is taking, you can see there is a long way from the car to where he is standing,he is allegedly taking pics as the ambulance moves, and only one picture came??he did lied that it was one as we saw 3 different. and how can you shoot from an angle that you can see Michaels face from profile and in the same time a car parked on the street?
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