#1MJstan
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I want 2 know why in the hell hasn't the AMA taken his medical license???!!! That should have been the first thing..
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well reports are that HE TOLD lapd he gave mj diprivan. so either way, if it wasn't found in mj, he's still in trouble b/c it's illegal.
one-he can't prescribe meds
two-he can't use that med cuz he's not an anesthe. and they weren't in the hospital
so he's going down for something q
See this is the part I don't get. What more do they need to arrest this guy? Something isn't right? It seems so clear to US, like what more do they need? What else are they looking for? The tox reports I'm pretty sure they have already they are just not releasing them.. so what IS it in there that is preventing them from handcuffing this dude and charging him? My ONLY guess is what folks have been saying about diprovan leaving the system fairly quickly. Maybe there was not a trace of it in the tox reports since it had been so long since Murray had given it to him. If that's the case then perhaps they are looking for different evidence to suggest that MJ was given the drug even though the tox reports shows otherwise. I'm just like WTF is taking so long already! I just don't get it... maybe it's the impatient NYer in me.
i really believe this doctor manipulated Michael with all that insane medication, if we use common sense we will know any doctor, qualified doctor would never give anesthesia to make someone sleep! its EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, is like KIILLING THAT PERSON, some may say Michael begged for that, right? i dont think so, Murray would encourage michael to use all those killing unqualified stuff, Michael wanted to live in good shape, thats why he used prescription drugs and had a personal doctor, he wanted to be OK for the concerts.
Murray got Michael, Murray must have said to Michael that it was nothing wrong, i dont think Michael begged for Propofol i think Murray just said to Michael, "Michael, is Propofol time" you know, he got Michael fooled, i hope police does not get fooled too
it can be found in the organs. they said the toxics could take upto 6 weeksBut if he died because of an overdose, the overdose would remain in his system then and wouldn't be cleared by his body??
there are so many relevant threads/posts split between here in the gen forum and in the investigative one that i didn't know where to post this exactly :\
DEA Agent: Dr. Murray at Home During Search
Posted Jul 28th 2009 4:22PM by TMZ Staff
A DEA agent just spoke to the media outside of Dr. Conrad Murray's office in Las Vegas -- saying Murray was at home the whole time his house was being searched today by a pile of law enforcement agents.
The Assistant Special Agent in Charge said law enforcement officials were now moving on from Murray's home to search his office. The ASAC said the warrants executed this morning were for documents -- meaning anything from papers to computer hard drives.
Stay tuned...
ACCESS CLIP HERE: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/28/dea-agent-dr-murray-at-home-during-search/
This might be taken sensitive by some but Mj is to be blamed also. We can blame Dr Murray all we want but MJ was going to get that drug no matter what. When someone is addicted to something there going to find a way to get it. MJ was warned how dangerous it was and basically he didnt care.
Please! it does'nt matter what Michael Jackson wanted.....if no doctor was willing to give it to him then we all would'nt be at this point right now! Above all else this doctor was the one with the knowledge, he should've damn well put his foot down and said no to Mike, but I guess $150,000 was just too much for him to pass on!
A doctor should never have been able to have been convinced it was fine! Lots of people want lots of things, doesn't mean you should just give it to them. I'm not gonna sit here and claim Michael had no part in this at all, but it was the doctors duty not to do this, and offer help of some sort. He abused his position and should be punished accordingly.
True, but had MJ not wanted it he would also be alive. Be realistic you cant expect every doctor to turn down $150,000 a month. Especially if MJ says he's used it before and its not a problem. Im sure MJ was like i've used this before and i was fine. The Dr could have said no in the beginning and MJ could have convinced him it was fine. Iv'e done it many times.
Not with Diprivan you haven't - and couldn't. I really don't understand Dr. Murray. He had to be crazy desperate for money/prestige/whatever to agree to it. It is NOT at all like talking a doctor into prescribing painkillers or something like that. With that, the patient goes and gets it filled and it's on him for taking it. Because the doctor can always say he felt it was medically necessary, didn't know others had prescribed also, etc.
Not with Diprivan. The doctor does the administration so he is directly involved. The doctor is responsible then for making sure PERSONALLY that it was done properly and that the monitoring was done properly and that all possible precautions were taken. Which obviously did not happen. Any doctor who would agree to do that in a home setting without the proper precautions is just asking for prosecution when something goes wrong. There are extremely few doctors who would be willing to risk that - it's not like just writing a prescription and walking away. Michael was unfortunate enough to find a completely unqualified doctor stupid enough and unethical enough to take chances with his life. And I'm sure he'll pay for it one way or another.
It breaks my heart that Michael yet again placed his trust in someone so unworthy of it, and no matter what happens now, he is gone and nothing will ever make that feel better.
The world is not perfect and there will always be ppl looking to make money. That's just the way it is. So if you have someone who desperately is looking to take a painkiller that's dangerous and will search and search for someone to give it to them, they will eventually find that crooked Doctor. Had Murray not given it to MJ he would probably be fired and MJ would search and search for a Doctor who would give it to him.
WASHINGTON, D.C. (BNO NEWS) -- Dr. Conrad Murray's law firm, of Michael Jackson's doctor, released a statement on Tuesday afternoon in which it confirmed that a search warrant had been issued for the doctor's Las Vegas home and office.
"We can verify that at approximately 8 am (local time), officers from DEA, LAPD and various local agencies began executing a search warrant at Dr. Conrad Murray's Las Vegas home and office," a statement said. Dr. Conrad Murray is being represented by attorney Ed Chernoff.
The search warrant authorized investigators to look for medical records relating to Michael Jackson and all of his reported aliases. Dr. Murray was present during the search of his home and assisted the officers, the law firm said. Investigators left his home at around noon, while seizing cell phones and a computer hard drive.
At 2 p.m. local time, the search of Dr. Murray's office in Las Vegas was still continuing. Both Chernoff and Murray said they would not be available for interviews at this time.
True, but had MJ not wanted it he would also be alive. Be realistic you cant expect every doctor to turn down $150,000 a month. Especially if MJ says he's used it before and its not a problem. Im sure MJ was like i've used this before and i was fine. The Dr could have said no in the beginning and MJ could have convinced him it was fine. Iv'e done it many times.
What the hell are you talking about 'if MJ had not wanted it'.....someone introduced this 'drug' to Michael, he did'nt just know about this on his own! MJ could'nt have come to me as a doctor and tell me that he's used this drug before with another doctor so it was okay! I sensible doctor would've told him hell no!
The thing for me though if every other doctor on TV is saying using this drug at home was insane, what the hell were these doctor/doctors thinking to administer this? was the glitter from MJ's fame so seductive!:doh:
Why would Dr Murray tell the LAPD that he gave Michael Propopol and tell his lawyer he didn't? This just doesn't make sense. I keep saying to myself that we need to back up a little bit and take a breath because no one from the LAPD, DEA or Coroner had come out and said directly to the public that Propopol was given to Michael and killed him. No one that matters has said that. That whole story came from the media and Ms Lee. And did yall see Ms Lee being drilled by Firpo Carr on Nancy Grace yesterday? She couldn't even answer his questions straight. And his questions were on point because he asked her why Michael would call her...a nurse...anyway...to request propopol. You should have seen her figiting for an answer. I have doubts about the Lee woman because she went and did media rounds and got paid and the LAPD had to actually call her to get her records. Then I noticed that she when they asked her what was in her files, she hesitated to say anything about her conversations with Michael and propopol was in there. So her whole story is her word against a dead man who can't even defend himself.
HEARTBREAKHOTELMJJ if he's a cardiologist, he couldn't prescribe something out of the way of his practice. he'd need 'hint hint' another doctor to do it for him. or refer mj elsewhere to get it. he couldn't get propofol/diprivan. and y would a cardiologist prescribe xanax or say demerol or fentanyl? so it would look out of the ordinary.
he cannot prescribe meds in cali. that's where mj was living. he can only do it in lv or in tx
Ok ok, yes Michael asked for Diprivan, and Murray gave it to him they are both at fault in that aspect. MY problem with Murray (aside from agreeing to give Mike Diprivan, wth) is that he was UNPREPARED when he knew the dangers of the drug, why was there no portable defibrillator, he had tanks and tanks of oxygen, wtf was he doing with it, why were there no medical supplies (intubation tubes, etc). I mean if you're going to take stupid ass chances at least be prepared. That's why I'm angry, he knew he didn't have the supplies, and he knew the time length to get Michael help as far as cardiac arrest is concerned, instead what did he do? He waited to call 911, disappears from the hospital, and takes his ass to Vegas to practice. I'm fed up with him, I can't even look at his pic on the news.
murray cannot prescribe meds or get meds in cali. he's not licensed there, i don't think. he practices in las vegas and inhouston so he has a license in nevada and texas.Yeah. I don't get why MJ would call CherylLee if he had a doctor around. It just makes no sense.
Why doesn't anything make any sense? It's just been 6 weeks of confusion!!