Dr Shafer
Walgren :
your work in this case is pro bono, that's you custom in any kind of case, wether you are defending the doctor, or yiu are against the doctor, objection, sustained, re asked . Dr Shafer : It's based on the science . Has consulted for a lawyer who had been on the opposite party before.
Do you follow the same princimles with you resarch an your programs : publishes his programs and spreadseehts , over a 100 have been made available online
sedasys : is a system , works propobono for Ethicon
Stanpump : computer program created, that used mathematics to give drugs to achieve a certain concentration. , based on height and weight. It's free to download, became the default standard. Used as a reference program. It's free because Dr Shafer wants to promote the science. Could have great monetary value : dr Shafer doesn't know, there would have been some.
Demonstration 100ml with the spike : it had to a vented, if not the propofol would not flow. Other than that you can't say which line was used : yes, it only had to vented.
Walgren mentions Dr Shafer's testimony was interrupted due to a death in his family
Shows a close up of a vented line. Peoples 157. Shows the seacaost order, Dr Safer shows its the same product as peoples 157( vented line). Seacost orders shows an order of 50 counts, and 100, that's a 150 more than Dr Shafer had understood.
An excel tube, same as peoples 157, could have been spiked into the bottle. Could have done the same demonstration, excel is atcually much smaller than the one used for demonstration.
Is there anything extroardinary saying than MJ received more than 25 MG, no the defense is saying the same thing.
You couldn't find a scenario that could support self injection,
Normally has a dose and time to do a simulation, the only info is 25mg by murray, couldn' t find any scenario with tis dose.
Dr Shafer couldn' find another scenario other that the propofol was still running when MJ died.
Demerol : the comments on demerol are based exclusively on medical records from Dr Klein. Based on the readings of these records, Dr Shafer couldn't say he was an addict, the records alone were not enough to say if MJ was an addict, Dr Shafer is not an addiction expert.
There was no demerol found in Mjs system
If the defense had asked Dr Shafer to do scenarios for them, he wld have done them, and has actaully done one for the defense.
0;008 mg, 1/250 th of tablet, comes from new study from coroner, the Pacific Toxycolgy finding was 0.047 mg, 1/43 of a tablet
dr Shafer has given opinions based on a 30 years expertise : CM should have monitored his patient , and been there is, this opinion is not «*made out of thin air*» , it comes from published studies, and the established standards of care.
50 mg , 6 self injections : this can't happen, because you have to wake up.
Walgren : CM said MJ liked to push the drug, was a dependent on propofol, if you believe CM (emphasis on believe) Dr shafer says that self injection was a foreseeable risk. Based on CM's own words.
Any scenario other than IV infuion : no hasn't been able to establish another scenario, death occured while propfol was being infused.
Shows another lorazepam scenario : 9 doses IV, 4MG each. Starting at 1 30 am : this would work to explain the levels found.
Re cross Chernoff
last scenario, done this week end , because of what Chernoff said on Friday.
There would be no cardio vascular problem with 25 mg over 3 to 5mn
100 ml infusion is an extraodinary claim : no, it's an ordinary claim.
IV set demonstration ; you said that THIS (showing IV Tube used for demonstrate) was used : no, mistates testimony, doesn't know what was used. Dr Shafer said that a vented line was used.
Chernoff shows excel line (that Murray bought) : it's actually much smaller than the one used for demonstration. Peoples 157, the excel ine that was found at the scene was actually vented, Dr Shafer didn't know prior to this morning that it was vented. His testimony was for the need of a vented tube for the propofol bottle. It's possible to take the vented line that was in the saline bag, and put it into the propofol bottle.
Chernoff : so your new theory is that a second line was used ? No I said that you need a vented line.
Chenoff asks about the slit bag demonstration : Dr Shafer says he intended to show that there were 2 lines , one in the saline, one in the bottle.
Chernoff asks quetions that no one understands. Actually it's multiple versions of the same question, that apprently no one understand.
Prosecution rests, but may call other witnesses pending on other exhibits.
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Donna Norris
Gourjian
Works communications evidence unit beverly hills police department.
Shows transcript of 911 call
909 27346 : caller's phone nr
12 20 18 time 911 was called
12 20 21 : begins to ring
12 20 26 : called picked up
12 20 50 : called transferred to LAFD
12 21 03 : dispatcher at police dept hangs up.
12 21 04 : 911 system relased the call
duration of the call at the police dept 46 Seconds
the call was made on June 25th 2009
data that shows which cell tower the call came from, the part of the cell twer, cell phone provider, and a number the police can call if they need to trace back the call.
No Cross by Walgren.
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Alexander Suppal
LAPD, police surveillence speciaist for 11 years
operates and maintains electronic surveillance for LAPD, retrieves footage from surveillance cameras.
Was asked to go to Carolwood, to retrieve the videos, because the operater weren't sure they could retrieve the videos. Was alone there, probably went around 7 30pm on 25th June (his first answer was 6, but didn't recall very well, agrees it could have been 7 30
There were several officers, he had to wait for authorization to go through the gates. Detective Martinez was there.
Security staff coudn't play the video, his task was to find the hard drive, a DVR, to do so he had to trace the lines , the DVR was in the basement of the house, 2 stories down. Had to get a monitor and hooked it up to the hard drive. At that time he was with Matinez, and a security guard, he described the security guard was a tall african american (Gourian asked if it was it Faheem Muhammad , mr suppal says he doesn't know)
started the video to the relative time when MJ came home , someone said (maybe Martinez) what that time was, he started the video a little earlier.
It was a minute for minute video, 24 hours video ,if they had recorded everything fom the last 24 hous, it would have been a 24 hours video.
Everything until june 25th 7 30 pm could have been seen.
Gourjian plays a 7mn video
it's a camara that looks at a gate :
time stamp, date and time of the DVR : june 25th 2009, a quarter to 1 am, someone is in front of the gate, 0. 47 cars arrive , someone is till in front of the gate, 0.50 anther car, a smaller one, there is still someone walking next to the gate, 0. 52, there are 2 persons near the gate, the gate is still opened, 0. 58, 2 cars , big ones, shows people outside the gate on the street , gates close, one person still near the gate. At 1 02 gates open, there still people outside. At 1 06 a car leaves, people outside go after the car., 1 07 gates open, car still right outside the gate, at the end footage on fast forward from the beginning.
Mr Suppal says the fast forward shows that they watched the video again.
As he was watching, he recorded it on a DVD.
Doesn't remember how many cameras there were.
Shows another video : camera outside, on the keypad. It shows people waiting o the street right next to the gate, three cars come in, each time there is a close up on the driver's face (peronal note : I didn't recognise the first one, second one could be Murray, third one looks like a white man, 50 or 60, with glasses and a moustache)
Mr Suppal did not go back to download additional footage, no one asked him to.
No cross by Walgren
Side bar, lunch break
