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Arnie Klein: "Michael would never self inject - He was needle phobic"

So who injected MJ before Murray ? Remember that Murray was MJ personal doctor for only 11 days.
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murray was working with mj since at least March
 
Justthefacts said:
Murray had been Michael's doctor since 06 they found files in Murray's office that went back to January 06 which shocked me because I thought Michael did not come back to the USA until the end of 06. For Murray to say he did not know things about Michael's health is stupid he had been Michael's personal doctor for like two years
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he wasnt his doctor since jan 96 he just had his medical files since that date. he was first involved with mj at the end of 06 when he came back supposedly cause one of the kids was off. rumour that bain introduced them.
 
I still want to understand how Michael came to the Murray. Well, maybe someone indicated out the Murray to Michael. (???) Somehow Michael came to the Murray.

The story they tell is that Murray took care of a son of Michael who became ill. Michael would not call a cardiologist to care for a child. He would call a pediatrician. It makes no sense.

This point in history is not clear and it is still impossible to be 100% sure.
 
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well someone knew of murray ive heard it was bain. but thats to be confirmed. if he just needed a doctor in order to get a prescription it doesnt really matter what he specialised in.
 
ashtanga said:
I still want to understand how Michael came to the Murray. Well, maybe someone indicated out the Murray to Michael. (???) Somehow Michael came to the Murray.

The story they tell is that Murray took care of a son of Michael who became ill. Michael would not call a cardiologist to care for a child. He would call a pediatrician. It makes no sense.

This point in history is not clear and it is still impossible to be 100% sure.
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It was mentioned that Murray was the house doctor for the Palm in Vegas. Michael was staying there when one of the kids became ill. The doctor was called which of course was Murray.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
murray was working with mj since at least March
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then how come prespriction drugs issued in dec 08, prescribed by Murray, were found in MJ's home (coroner's report) ???. I assume it was prescribed to Michael, because on one other drug the report specifies "precribed by Murray to Dr Murray". That drug, the one issued in dec 08, also had directions (once at bedtime as needed) ???

Maybe Murray didn't work for MJ, but he must have been around.

By the way, the drug was temazepam, identified by other posters in the coroner's thread as a very strong benzodiazepine, very addictive and very quickly addictive. One of the posters questionned Murray's intentions when he prescribed that in dec 08 (out of 30 capsules, 3 were left, so 27 were missing in 6 months : I don't think Michael was addicted to it ).
 
hen how come prespriction drugs issued in dec 08, prescribed by Murray
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thats why i said at LEAST march. as the first info that came out took us back to that date interms of his meeting with adams. ie thats when we were first aware of his involvement with diprivan and being involved in administering it. we know he worked with mj as far back as dec 06 but march is as far as it goes back interms of a direct connection to diprivan
 
ashtanga said:
I still want to understand how Michael came to the Murray. Well, maybe someone indicated out the Murray to Michael. (???) Somehow Michael came to the Murray.

The story they tell is that Murray took care of a son of Michael who became ill. Michael would not call a cardiologist to care for a child. He would call a pediatrician. It makes no sense.

This point in history is not clear and it is still impossible to be 100% sure.
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Hi ashtanga, I have not read the other newer posts, so I'm sorry in advance for any duplication. What I have read is that Murray's wife is a pediatrician and I believe she treated one of MJ's children in January 2006, and via this pediatrician, MJ met Conrad Murray.
 
MJJLaugh said:
Hi ashtanga, I have not read the other newer posts, so I'm sorry in advance for any duplication. What I have read is that Murray's wife is a pediatrician and I believe she treated one of MJ's children in January 2006, and via this pediatrician, MJ met Conrad Murray.
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I never knew this story of the "wife" of Murray have treated one of Michael's children. What has been said is the opposite, it was Murray.

But do you remember where you read it? :scratch:
 
^^ It's simple. Just ask Michael's children if any of them have been treated by Murray.
 
reated one of MJ's children in January 2006,
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mj was out of the usa until xmas 06.although i remember some vague report about him going back but ppl not knowing about it
 
u mean march 2009?
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yes. he and mj had a meeting with dr adams in march.adams wont say what its about but hes an anethetist (sp) so it was prob to get him on board for the tour
 
Regardless of this story I wouldn't and didn't believe this anyway!
 
Will Klein be testifying in court for the prosecution then?
 
Rockin. said:
Will Klein be testifying in court for the prosecution then?
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It will be interesting to see how Klein will be a part of the case. I bet noone wants to use him - especially now that he's being sued by Bank of America for almost $1 million. Not to mention the interviews he did on TMZ, tabloid stories, did he self prescribe, etc problems. I thought in the TMZ interview he said he was going to write a book too. But I don't see how he can be left out really.
 
I remember watching TMZ Live months ago and they were talking about this.

According to Harvey Levin and what Murrays lawyer MIGHT use as a defense is that Michael didnt need to self-inject himself with a needle. The IV containing propfol were already there and had been injected by Murray. What Michael only had to do, when he allegedaly woke up desperately craving for more, were just to "push" the propofol (who already were in the IV attached to his leg) into his system.
 
When I woke up from this stuff I was definitely there, but nowhere near being able perform that kind of delicate job, no way. I wasn't hallucinating or anything like that but even with Propofol you don't just wake up ready to handle microchips and thread something through needles, if you know what I mean.
 
Vici said:
I remember watching TMZ Live months ago and they were talking about this.

According to Harvey Levin and what Murrays lawyer MIGHT use as a defense is that Michael didnt need to self-inject himself with a needle. The IV containing propfol were already there and had been injected by Murray. What Michael only had to do, when he allegedaly woke up desperately craving for more, were just to "push" the propofol (who already were in the IV attached to his leg) into his system.
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If they are going to say that then they would have to say that Murray lied to the cops when he said he only gave Michael 25 mgs. And even if Michael gave himself Propofol who gave him Lorzenpan? That was a factor in his dying in fact the autopsy says the Lorzenpan made the Propofol they effects of it worst. And the fact that it only made it to his heart then stopped makes it worst for Murray
 
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