Jeffrey Daniel's says he Knows Michael is Innocent

I agree 100%
The more people hear that Michael is innocent, the more they'll question the allegations and agree on his innocence.
It's naive to think that people will just get over it, they won't. And I'd much prefer for people to talk about how Michael is an innocent musical genious, than a 'possibly guilty/maybe innocent/who knows' musical genious.

Yes! Exactly! I remember seeing an interview from some site not too long back of this guy going around asking celebs at some event or premiere whether or not MJ was "creepy or a genius?" I was shocked that he was asking such a thing, but the idiot was clearly doing it for laughs or something equally immature. Not that any of their opinions matter remotely, but I was curious to see who would fall into this guy's "trap". Thankfully, more people responded with "genius" (and I think Nelly said something like "What kind of question is that? C'mon dude!" :D), but many of the responses were "creepy genius". WTF is that? I mean seriously! Stupid people who don't think for themselves and go along with popular opinion! :mat:
 
Yes! Exactly! I remember seeing an interview from some site not too long back of this guy going around asking celebs at some event or premiere whether or not MJ was "creepy or a genius?" I was shocked that he was asking such a thing, but the idiot was clearly doing it for laughs or something equally immature. Not that any of their opinions matter remotely, but I was curious to see who would fall into this guy's "trap". Thankfully, more people responded with "genius" (and I think Nelly said something like "What kind of question is that? C'mon dude!" :D), but many of the responses were "creepy genius". WTF is that? I mean seriously! Stupid people who don't think for themselves and go along with popular opinion! :mat:

That's my point, we need to face the fact that we are gonna have to deal with this and we might aswell be happy that people are standing up for Mike.
No one can deny his musical legacy, so I think there's no harm in people trying to clear out his name.
We b***h when people bad mouth him and we b***h when people defend him, WTF?
 
Jeffery said some really nice things about Michael... I love his positivity...
really loved the fact he said he been to Neverland and saw what Michael
did for those children...

Oprah also went to Neverland and was in complete ahhh during the interview of how Neverland was set up to help disadvantages and sick kids.. that woman.. NEVER EVER mentions that.. but I digress...

Big UPs to Jeffrey.... and this paper is the British Voice.. and paper right out of Brixston in London...
 
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Oh trust me - I schooled her the best I could. Believe me you, my friends & family know that I will go off on them (in a mostly civilized manner ) if they insult & slander MJ in front of me. I have offered links & reading material for them, and solid lengthy conversations to change their minds. I also let them know that I sought out the truth myself being a slightly newer fan so there's no reason they can't either. But I don't worry myself with it so much anymore.

Dang, you did it all. I am all for people having their own opinions/views about Michael. However, I want people to see another side of the story that is true. You handled it well, I would have been yelling at my friends/family and it would have been a nasty firestorm. LOL!! I can get rowdy. However, it is what it is. My family have been respectable regarding Mike. They never went there with him, but they have stated that MJ should have not put himself in danger and I had to agree with them on that. My friends - well, I have a good friend who makes fun of what happened to MJ, but she KNOWS I do not play that. Usually, we do not really talk about Michael. These days, I just simply tell people that they can believe what they want, but it is up to them to read on it. Not me.

The media only brings up this crap because they think it gets people reading their crap articles. However, that is not always the case.

Oprah also went to Neverland and was in complete ahhh during the interview of how Neverland was set up to help disadvantages and sick kids.. that woman.. NEVER EVER mentions that.. but I digress...

Oprah is the media. You know how it is. During that time, Mike could do no wrong and it was popular for the likes of Oprah to give him praise. These days, she could care less. She just used him for her own selfish reasons. She is not going to mention anything positive about MJ because it makes her look "sympatheic" regarding MJ. Blah, eff her.
 
That's my point, we need to face the fact that we are gonna have to deal with this and we might aswell be happy that people are standing up for Mike.
No one can deny his musical legacy, so I think there's no harm in people trying to clear out his name.
We b***h when people bad mouth him and we b***h when people defend him, WTF?

My point exactly.
 
With no disrepect intended; Being there from the very begining of the J5 era to present, in the legal field, and the industry...

Many of us know without a doubt Mr.Jackson is innocent of "EVER" hurting a child...

However, on the other side of the spectrum, many still believe he got away with a crime.

Unfortunately, unless something concrete surfaces Mr.Jackson will continue to be plagued by a crime that that he was acquitted/innocent of..!

Heal The World~~~
 
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thanks for sharing.. I really enjoyed it
 
With no disrepect intended; Being there from the very begining of the J5 era to present, in the legal field, and the industry...

Many of us know without a doubt Mr.Jackson is innocent of "EVER" hurting a child...

However, on the other side of the spectrum, many still believe he got away with a crime.

Unfortunately, unless something concrete surfaces Mr.Jackson will continue to be plagued by a crime that that he was acquitted/innocent of..!

Heal The World~~~
Something concrete came out. It came out in Santa Barbara court. It was called evidence. You are not going to change everybody's mind. You cannot change people's mind if they do not want it to be changed no matter what you placed in front of them, All they will say is that they got paid to say it. People who know the truth need to accept what we have and move on.
Sometimes I feel that the people who are trying to persuade others are really tryning to persuade themselves. Maybe they need to ask themselves why.
The verdict came down and it was what we wanted.MJ has moved on with his life. He has not spoken about the case because he doesn't feel that he needs to. I do not think he needs to either. To hell with the people who do not believe. MJ should not have to fight a case in the minds of the public. His president and v president have more of a case to answer to than he does.
I would like to see the media and the fans move on with their lives and stop thinking that they must defend MJ every time.
Latoya just did an interview and she is not telling the world he is innocent. Instead, she is saying that he is happy and is moving on with his life. That is the place where fans should be, I believe. as John Lennon would say.'War is iover, if you want it'.
 
We as fans must realize that most people did not pay all that close attention to the trial. In my country it wasn't even covered much in the media and the coverage we got was all negative. So how are people to know? Any adult understands that 'not guilty' is not neccessarily the same as 'innocent'. People are not gonna start reading thousands of pages of court transcripts so they need to be informed by the folks who do know what Michael is really about. That's why it's still very important that guys like Jeffrey Daniel speak up.
 
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Unfortunately, unless something concrete surfaces Mr.Jackson will continue to be plagued by a crime that that he was acquitted/innocent of..!
even then, it will never get a fraction of the attention the trial had. unless something can be highly sensationlised out of it, the truth is often left out.

should the media let it go? of course, he's been found innocent of all charges. will they? never and neither will many of their audience even if it wasn't constantly regurgitated.


That's why I think it's only good for someone like Jeffrey Daniel to speak out and tell people who Michael really is..
i agree.


thanks for the video, i've never seen it before. although, i'm unsure of your 'everyday people' generalisation since we don't know any one of them.
 
We as fans must realize that most people did not pay all that close attention to the trial. In my country it wasn't even covered much in the media and the coverage we got was all negative. So how are people to know? Any adult understands that 'not guilty' is not neccessarily the same as 'innocent'. People are not gonna start reading thousands of pages of court transcripts so they need to be informed by the folks who do know what Michael is really about. That's why it's still very important that guys like Jeffrey Daniel speaks up.
Well in USA and in Britain, Not guilty' Is INNOCENT' Because the law specifies that YOU ARE INNOCENTuntil PROVEN GUILTY. Now Until the law of the land changes, Not guilty, is Innocent. You are a judge, you should know that.
 
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I my opinion the more people who speak out like Daniels did the better. There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty. Every time people like Daniels come out and firmly state the opposite it is one more reason for a few more people to consider his innocence. I don't just want him to succeed as a performer. I want his name cleared.
Agree with you.
Michael is such a kind hearted person. :(
It BOTHERS me that people see him as the freak media portrayed. If he is guilty, it's that he's too kind to too many people as what Tom Masseure has said.
 
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What people need to do with negativity is to make it work for them. I think this is how MJ uses it. He really doesn't let it bother him, insteadm he uses it in his songh and videos. When he is asked about it in interviews, he simplu says, ;'People are crazy'. That is how I look at the people who call MJ a freak, for if MJ was indeed a freak, Why is it that we should want to laugh at or mock someone who is different> You see, that is my measuring stick for anyone who will call MJ names. What kind of person would feel comfortable calling someone they have never met, names. You see, it speaks a lot about their character.
 
Can anyone get on www.eonline.com and reading the comments what they are saying about neverland? I get not get on to that website. I guess I speak with too much commen sense and I can not get on.
 
Can anyone get on www.eonline.com and reading the comments what they are saying about neverland? I get not get on to that website. I guess I speak with too much commen sense and I can not get on.


more than likely it's negative, why do you want to know?
 
I my opinion the more people who speak out like Daniels did the better. There are a lot of people who only saw and heard the slanted reports in the media during the trial and still think Michael is guilty. Every time people like Daniels come out and firmly state the opposite it is one more reason for a few more people to consider his innocence. I don't just want him to succeed as a performer. I want his name cleared.

I completely agree with this!

The accusations will stick on Michael!

More ppl are needed to point out he was accquited and indeed is innocent!
 
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That's my point, we need to face the fact that we are gonna have to deal with this and we might aswell be happy that people are standing up for Mike.
No one can deny his musical legacy, so I think there's no harm in people trying to clear out his name.
We b***h when people bad mouth him and we b***h when people defend him, WTF?
I agree with this.

Almost everyone whom i've met thought he bought the jury off or they simply don't believe the American justice system. To them 'Not guilty' isn't necessary equate 'innocent', it only means to them that he has a good defense team.
Yes, it's their problem.

So whenever there are people who speak out for him, it's always good because it lets people CONSIDER HIS INNOCENCE.

It's better than this 'since his acquittal blah blah blah' line found in every article which would ONLY REMIND PEOPLE OF THE CASE.
 
Well in USA and in Britain, Not guilty' Is INNOCENT' Because the law specifies that YOU ARE INNOCENTuntil PROVEN GUILTY. Now Until the law of the land changes, Not guilty, is Innocent. You are a judge, you should know that.

In both Britain and the USA if your famous and the media want dirt on you, then the court of laws "Innocent until proven guilty" and "Not Guilty" means nothing to them. Because as the British media kept saying about Michael during the 1993 investigation, innocent or guilty "mud sticks". And the media want to keep their mud sticking to Michael even though they know full well he's innocent.
 
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If you think MJ's friends are going to change peoples and haters mind you are mistaken. It will not change a thing. The trial should have done that if they have any respect for thier justice system. if they don't then that is their own fault.
Worry about the American legal system that is so corrupt that the citizens don't have faith in it anymore. Why should they come out? The case is OVER. If they chose to believe some crooks instead of MJ, that is their problem, not MJ's or his friends. MJ grew up infront of the entire world. If some people want to take some thieves version of event instead of someone who has been spreading love and joy, then so be it. Who cares anyway?

Sometimes I feel that it is MJ's closet fans who need reassurance.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted felon. He spent 27 years in jail. He walks as a free man and nobody cares that he went to prison.
All the people who do their research into MJ, as they will will know that he was railroaded. Neither MJ, nor hois friends need to come out and say a word.

I disagree
if we dont speak up for Michael WHO Will ?????????
there is to much Negative in the press and
that is all the world sees - It is GREAT when
someone will speak out in MJ's defense

Fans should always speak up and LIFT MICHAEL UP
EVERYWHERE .. not ignore or turn there backs to
the abuse in teh media

Im aM so HAPPY to see Jeffery who is respected
by Many come forward and defend Michael when
so many others are ignoring or bashing him

It is a breath of Fresh air to see an article like this
I love anyone who will publically come forward and defend
Michael Jackson - and yes it will change peoples minds becuase
they havent seen any Good news about MJ. They need to hear
the other side - I have changed many hearts by sending them
positive videos and articles about Michael - and they said
"THANK YOU_ I didnt know _ I only saw what the news printed
and what others said"


But your opinion is noted and I respect
your right to remain silent. BUT We all have
our own ways with dealing with the negative
press .. Love you
 
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The public has been brainwashed in regards to Michael, that's just the truth. And it didn't just start with the alligations. It started almost 10 years before that and it's been a constant pressure from the powers that be and their tool the press/media that has created this warped, mischaracterized image of Michael to the public. It's fu*ked up, to be blatent. So saying that we need to just move on and forget it doesn't help anything. It's a good thing when someone who knows Michael, like Jeffrey, comes out and speaks honestly on how good of a person Michael is. Because that is who Michael is. He's an innately good, caring human being, and maybe some think it's asking for too much, but I want people to know that about him. He does more good in this world then probably 90 plus percent of the human population. But that gets ignored and instead, because people have been conditioned to think so, he gets regarded as a freak and a weirdo, when in reality, he's a loving, spiritually connected and real person who, even when you spit on him, turns the other cheek and offers a helping hand.

So I want people to acknowledge Michael for the wonderful human being he is. Everyone who knows Michael says that. His voice coach, who is a good freind of his, says that Michael is the best person he's ever known. The perception the public has of Michael is so wrong and so warped, and ignoring that fact wont make it go away. Michael's tried to explain himself to people, but because the media got such a foothold in thier conciousness and because they started in on shaping who Michael was to people so early on, he didn't even have a chance.

I look at this much the same way I look at people who don't want Michael to write or sing about what he went through for 3 years. They say he should "move on". But how does one move on from a life altering, life threatening experience? Not by ignoring it. They have to work through it, and I know the way Michael's always dealt with his problems is through his art. He's even made himself emotionally and personally available and exposed in his music and dancing. The only challange left is to get people to listen.

Michael deserves to be seen as he really is. He's given so much of himself to the world, he's sacrificed so much of himself to make this world a better place and to better people's lives, and he deserves to be acknowledged for that, not misjudged as something that is the complete opposite of who and what he is.
 
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I feel like if fans want to moan and complain about the media hating on Michael, then they should. Mariah Carey fans do that all of the time and no one says anything. MJ fans does that, we are accused of being crazy or we are not accepting what people say about him. I accept people's views. However, most of the views are based on lies and not the truth. The media has worked by convincing people that MJ is this and that. That is why I am glad that Jeffery said what he has to say. The media hates MJ and MJ cannot change that. However, the crazy thing about the media is that they will always talk about him. It makes them look like fools. The media needs to move on from this crap and accept the fact that MJ has moved on and they need to do the same.
 
Lets look at it this way:
The image the media has created about Michael won't change by his own word, he's tried that and it hasn't worked.
The fans? We've been trying to do it for years and it still hasn't worked entirely because we have to go person to person and even after that a lot of people think we're just deluded.

So...who has more influence on people than the media? Celebrities, period

Not even politicians have such influence on the masses, celebs do; sad but true, so when a celebrity or personality comes up and defends Michael, people pay attention and start wondering if they've been wronG all along, SO THIS IS A GOOD THING .
 
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"innocent untill proven guilty" is bull crap..

especially when it comes to big names..

It's not even "Guilty untill proven innocent."

It's just 'GUILTY untill some chose to forget'..


Michael was convicted before the trial.. Even as he was found 'not guilty'.. They do not want to call him innocent..

I have seen several media outlets say..

"Just because he was found not guilty does not mean he's innocent. It only means that the jury did not believe THIS FAMILY with 100% conviction that Michael Jackson molested that particular child. It does not mean they don't think he's a child molestor."


Michael will be seen as 'guilty' untill people decide to think of him as innocent.. and the MEDIA will fallow.. because it will sell..
 
In both Britain and the USA if your famous and the media want dirt on you, then the court of laws "Innocent until proven guilty" and "Not Guilty" means nothing to them. Because as the British media kept saying about Michael during the 1993 investigation, innocent or guilty "mud sticks". And the media want to keep their mud sticking to Michael even though they know full well he's innocent.

The british media is not the law of the land. The law says INNOCENT until proven guilty. Which means if not guilty, then you are innocent. Who cares that mud sticks. Go and check the history books and see the lifestyle of the heros we revere today, you would be very surprised. After a time people wil;l only remember the music, unless you continue to talk about the negative. I do not hear anyone speaking about Prioncess Doana's past anymore, and god knows it wasn't pretty.
You cant spent your life worrying about what haters think about you. If that was MJ's attitude he would have killed himself already, which is what they predicted for him.
MJ leads by example. I believe he wants fans to move on now as he has been doing himself.
If everytime you speak about MJ, you talk about the trial, then you are keeping the trial alive and in the minds of people, and then the healing will not talk place. You say people won't forget, but how are they to forget if you constantly bring it up.
It is alright for you if you don't have to live with it, but MJ has children that are growing up. They need to listen to the news without hearing stories of their dad and a trial.
MJ will be defended by his fans, but there are many ways to defend MJ than by bringing up the trial all the time. WE cannot change the minds of people who don't want to listen so there will always going to be haters.
 
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^ but in all reality it's not JUST the 'law of the land' that makes the choice..

In several countries the media/entertainment has a stronger influence on our culture than politics..


If the PEOPLE believe the media's protrial of a person.. that person will be GUILTY.. it will effect them in everyway..

Yeah you may not be behind physical bars, but there are mountaines to climb, with people throughing bolders down at you as you try to climb.. That person will be guilty in the minds of millions.. that often hurts worse than the bars.

EVEN if your INNOCENT
 
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"innocent untill proven guilty" is bull crap..

especially when it comes to big names..

It's not even "Guilty untill proven innocent."

It's just 'GUILTY untill some chose to forget'..


Michael was convicted before the trial.. Even as he was found 'not guilty'.. They do not want to call him innocent..

I have seen several media outlets say..

"Just because he was found not guilty does not mean he's innocent. It only means that the jury did not believe THIS FAMILY with 100% conviction that Michael Jackson molested that particular child. It does not mean they don't think he's a child molestor."


Michael will be seen as 'guilty' untill people decide to think of him as innocent.. and the MEDIA will fallow.. because it will sell..


Then after a time you just got to ignore the naysayers, stick 2 fingers up at them and get on with your life. Who the hell are they that they should be pointing fingers anyway? I am always very suspicious of the finger pointers. I always feel that they have something to hide. I believe MJ has moved on. I saw in his eyes when he walked out of that court room that he was done defending himself. He went to court. That is enough. If people don't want to accept the court ruling then tell them where to go. Point them to court transcript or tell them to go to hell. End of story.
 
^ I agree..

It's just sad how strong and influential the media is.. In many ways the MEDIA is the jury..


People point fingers a think of him as guilty because of the GUILTY verdict the MEDIA protrayed..

They saw only one story..

And it's hard to fight against that when the media is SO huge.
 
^ I agree..

It's just sad how strong and influential the media is.. In many ways the MEDIA is the jury..


People point fingers a think of him as guilty because of the GUILTY verdict the MEDIA protrayed..

They saw only one story..

And it's hard to fight against that when the media is SO huge.

The media is losing it's grip. Most people do not believe in the media any more. Check out the campagn for accuarte news that is sweeping the internet and is gaining momentum as we speak. They are going down. We are not the only ones who they have offended. The public is onto them.
 
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