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july 23, 2009 Jackson Doctor Manslaughter Court Documents Filed

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Victoria - that's an amazing photo of Michael. :wub: I love it.
 
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Victoria said:
Thank you resonnant! :) I enjoy yours too! :)
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Yeah, I wonder who else just wants to kiss him right on the mouth. *sigh* And I'm an introvent in person. :mello:
 
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kaem said:
Thank you Toffy for your lucid post. The only knowledge we have is from the press. There are no facts in the theory that Michael Jackson was killed by Dr. Murray. But even if the police will charge him, we should be wait to the end of the possible trail. I was shocked that it's so easy for you, the fans of Michael Jackson, to make judgement knowing how does it feel to judge someone and not knowing everything. Michael was in the same position in the last years.

I understand that is easier to put all the anger in one person and make him or her the enemy. It's the part of a mourning. But be careful with your words. Maybe Dr. Murray is innocent. It's possbile, the same as the thought that he's not.
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Thank you for that statement. It is exactly how I feel.

Earlier, in a different thread, a comment was made comparing what fans are doing now on the forum to what they did during the trial but the two situations are not the same at all. During the trial the effort was made to STOP judgement and accusations against someone (Michael) who had not been proven guilty of anything. Now in the name of 'getting to the truth' stones and accusations are being cast in all directions. How great is the potential to permanently damage the reputation of someone who is innocent? Almost everyone who has ever spoken to Michael has been accused of something by someone in the last couple of weeks. If anyone should know the harm that can come of 'merely' accusing someone of something, be they innocent or guilty, it should be MJ fans.

We were told that if we didn't like speculating we should stay out of this forum and I have refrained from comment 'til now but my opinion (and yours) are valid input too. People should stop and think about the harm they may be causing with 'speculation' that takes the form of pointing fingers of guilt and suspicion at people without having all the facts or allowing them their 'day in court' if it should come to that.

I have only read a small part of this thread and others like it here but was glad to see your post and others like you who succinctly voice concern.
 
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Along with eternity_child's post above, this...

Toffy said:
I haven't read this whole thread, I do intend to, but I just had to say.... speaking as a fan who's dealt with MJ going through blind hate without facts, I just have to say this about this here doctor... before I judge him, I'm going to try to love him.

.........but then when/if he's found guilty let the bashing begin :D
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kaem said:
Thank you Toffy for your lucid post. The only knowledge we have is from the press. There are no facts in the theory that Michael Jackson was killed by Dr. Murray. But even if the police will charge him, we should be wait to the end of the possible trail. I was shocked that it's so easy for you, the fans of Michael Jackson, to make judgement knowing how does it feel to judge someone and not knowing everything. Michael was in the same position in the last years.

I understand that is easier to put all the anger in one person and make him or her the enemy. It's the part of a mourning. But be careful with your words. Maybe Dr. Murray is innocent. It's possbile, the same as the thought that he's not.
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...is exactly how I feel. I have no problem with conspiracy theories and speculation, but to say he "needs to be murdered himself," "needs burn in hell," etc is a bit much. I know we're all sad and angry, but when people said that same sh*t about Michael without having definite answers, we had a fit. As MJ fans, I'm really ashamed of some of you guys.
 
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it's easier to blame Michael than to blame the doctor isn't it?
the doctor is "innocent until proven guilty" but when it comes to Michael it comes natural to say he is guilty no matter what, he was target all his life why would people spare him now?
even if it turns out he was killed by someone else's neglijence it's still Michael's fault, it's not that poor doctor's fault
I don't agree with the conspiracy theories or with statements like "he needs to be murdered" but he'd BETTER pay for what he did him and everyone involved I don't care what anybody says!
 
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Dr K will be brought to justice for years of "mismanagement" and Dr M will be brought to court for administering Diprivan....
there you have it, note the date I will come back and say I told you so :)
 
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I didn't want to jump to any conclusions about the doctor either. When I first heard Michael passed, I thought he'd had a heart attack and died in his sleep. I knew the media would run wild with one thing or another and I really have made an effort to try to find the facts, before making any judgments.

When they confiscated the doctor's car, red flag. When I heard the 911 call bigger red flag. When they got a search warrant for the doctor's office, huge red flag. Oh and before they got the search warrant, I remember seeing the doctor's lawyer on TV and his comments also raised red flags, from not properly doing CPR to not dialing 911 from your cell phone, or not running to get help first and then beginning CPR, you are not suppose to stop once you start.

I guess what I am saying is when Michael was being accused of something, there were not facts, or red flags. There was no truth to it when you looked at the facts. In this case, there are red flags everywhere, and I think it is ok for us to discuss them. I think the thread has been mostly just trying to make the pieces fit and figure out what could have happened.
 
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there are so many stories about the doctor its hard to know what is truth and what isnt. even if the doctor is charged it could prove hard it not impossible making those charges stick and even if convicted he could appeal and get off. likewise if he is charged his defence team could say because of the negative publicity surrounding their client it makes it near impossible for him to have a fair and just trial.
 
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not with propofol. the needle would stillbe in mj's arm, and he'd be on the floor when found. it acts so fast that there's no way for him ot clean upand then go to sleep. so someone gave it to him
 
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I think the Murray Doc got in panic noticing something went wrong with the propofol infusion on Michael.
If you do, you have to watch your patient as long as the IV is running.
Maybe he did so already a few times before and there had never been a problem that's why he left the room this time. This time something went wrong.
He noticed it would be his responsibility and got in panic... in the following to me he did some unforgivable mistakes (for a doctor). I guess he will be sued for it and I hope he has an insurance. He did the CPR wrong... yeah one can argue here because Michael was very thin... but I think as a trained professional you would do this how you've learned it and that means on the floor/solid ground (simply nobody would have doubt CPR itself this way). I think he didn't allow staff/security to imediately call 911 because he was in panic they would find out about the whole propofol stuff given to Michael and perceived probably not really legally what would again be his responsibility.
Then when they brought him into the hospital he didn't want Michael to be dead and that's why he tried to go on with cpr... because Michael would have been the only one able to help him out at least a bit of the huge shitty situation he brought himself in... he was in panic... he didn't even notice, in panic he might couldn't even notice Michael was already dead for the whole time.

Why do I not believe the planned murderer by the Murray Dr.?
Well studying medicine you learn like a million ways how you can kill someone without that anyone would notice.
There would have been no movement out of any stuff at his clinic the very same day. There would have been no IV in Michaels arm still. There wouldn't have been any rushing in the hospital and all that drama.

Honestly I don't see a motive for Murray to kill the hand feeding him.

He wasn't a good doctor... obviously he wasn't. And it is his responsibility Michael died, to me there's no doubt.
But he also shares this responsibility with everyone who put pressure on Michael and to me that was clearly AEG the whole how they've obviously handled their business.

I do believe those fans who heard Michael saying he wasn't really sure to be able to make the shows.
If someone is not eating and is that obviously not really feeling well... it needs to be addressed by the ppl responsible.
Yeah all about the money... yeah everybody goes for it... but that's need to stop... latest when someone is dead who could still be alive. Then you just do not go on as if nothing happened and it's still all about the money... then you have to take responsibility for wrong doing.
Michael is dead and could be still alive.
Maybe he wasn't completely innocent. Maybe he was really begging for that propofol etc... but he's dead.
And those ppl still alive had a fair chance to act different... they didn't... now I want them to at least admitt... and I want consequences.
And I sincerely say... if they went only for the money... then it's exactly that what they should pay now... but much more than they ever got please... it needs to hurt badly!
There was a lot of irresponsible conduct! I want ppl to either go to jail... but for sure I do want them to pay for this... as long as it will take.
Michael Jackson, the father of three, our idol is dead and he could clearly still be alive.
If only those ppl would have acted in the best way their BUSINESS is really meant... believe it or not, one can do business still with responsibilty towards everyone successfull... that's how it's meant from the very beginning.
I really can't hear anymore AEG did or is doing just business as everyone would or something...
Are you guys around here doing business??? I am and very successfull. I am in the health field. When I do my business responsible ppl I work with are usually not dead in the end (unless they're dying of a fatal disease or a true accident that means, I admitt).
If those ppl involved would have done their job REALLY, nobody would be dead in the end... this is not what just happens in life... and please also not usually in the entertainment business uh? This happens only if ppl lose their dignity and responsibilty... yeah if you want, if they sell their soul to the devil, better do not say or do something cuz you are blinded by money in the game for you. But it is simply not always everything about money in business. And I'll not forgive them because they went for it cuz everybody would have gone for the money?! I will never accept that as an argument.
To me anyones life in this world is still more precious than all the money in this world. Don't tell me these 'things' just happen.
No they do not. Michael Jackson could clearly be still alive and that to me is FACT.
 
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snow white said:
yes we know the difference isn't manslaughter just as bad?!
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yes it is but if it was a conspiracy, the authorities will need to get Klein as well. It seems to me Murray had been put on AEGs payroll who could have played a big role in considering to commit murder.
 
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Mechi said:
I think the Murray Doc got in panic noticing something went wrong with the propofol infusion on Michael.
If you do, you have to watch your patient as long as the IV is running.
Maybe he did so already a few times before and there had never been a problem that's why he left the room this time. This time something went wrong.
He noticed it would be his responsibility and got in panic... in the following to me he did some unforgivable mistakes (for a doctor). I guess he will be sued for it and I hope he has an insurance. He did the CPR wrong... yeah one can argue here because Michael was very thin... but I think as a trained professional you would do this how you've learned it and that means on the floor/solid ground (simply nobody would have doubt CPR itself this way). I think he didn't allow staff/security to immediately call 911 because he was in panic they would find out about the whole propofol stuff given to Michael and perceived probably not really legally what would again be his responsibility.
Then when they brought him into the hospital he didn't want Michael to be dead and that's why he tried to go on with CPR... because Michael would have been the only one able to help him out at least a bit of the huge shitty situation he brought himself in... he was in panic... he didn't even notice, in panic he might couldn't even notice Michael was already dead for the whole time.

Why do I not believe the planned murderer by the Murray Dr.?
Well studying medicine you learn like a million ways how you can kill someone without that anyone would notice.
There would have been no movement out of any stuff at his clinic the very same day. There would have been no IV in Michael's arm still. There wouldn't have been any rushing in the hospital and all that drama.

Honestly I don't see a motive for Murray to kill the hand feeding him.

He wasn't a good doctor... obviously he wasn't. And it is his responsibility Michael died, to me there's no doubt.
But he also shares this responsibility with everyone who put pressure on Michael and to me that was clearly AEG the whole how they've obviously handled their business.

I do believe those fans who heard Michael saying he wasn't really sure to be able to make the shows.
If someone is not eating and is that obviously not really feeling well... it needs to be addressed by the people responsible.
Yeah all about the money... yeah everybody goes for it... but that's need to stop... latest when someone is dead who could still be alive. Then you just do not go on as if nothing happened and it's still all about the money... then you have to take responsibility for wrong doing.
Michael is dead and could be still alive.
Maybe he wasn't completely innocent. Maybe he was really begging for that propofol etc... but he's dead.
And those ppl still alive had a fair chance to act different... they didn't... now I want them to at least admit... and I want consequences.
And I sincerely say... if they went only for the money... then it's exactly that what they should pay now... but much more than they ever got please... it needs to hurt badly!
There was a lot of irresponsible conduct! I want people to either go to jail... but for sure I do want them to pay for this... as long as it will take.
Michael Jackson, the father of three, our idol is dead and he could clearly still be alive.
If only those people would have acted in the best way their BUSINESS is really meant... believe it or not, one can do business still with responsibility towards everyone successful... that's how it's meant from the very beginning.
I really can't hear anymore AEG did or is doing just business as everyone would or something...
Are you guys around here doing business??? I am and very successful. I am in the health field. When I do my business responsible people I work with are usually not dead in the end (unless they're dying of a fatal disease or a true accident that means, I admit).
If those people involved would have done their job REALLY, nobody would be dead in the end... this is not what just happens in life... and please also not usually in the entertainment business uh? This happens only if people lose their dignity and responsibility... yeah if you want, if they sell their soul to the devil, better do not say or do something cuz you are blinded by money in the game for you. But it is simply not always everything about money in business. And I'll not forgive them because they went for it cuz everybody would have gone for the money?! I will never accept that as an argument.
To me anyone's life in this world is still more precious than all the money in this world. Don't tell me these 'things' just happen.
No they do not. Michael Jackson could clearly be still alive and that to me is FACT.
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In my opinion, anyone who is responsible for the welfare of human life should do MORE than just their job. Murray has done other things where he was in court where he recklessly almost killed another person. I am not a doctor but I am a teacher of young children, I am expected to have eyes behind my head to make sure that a child doesn't get hurt ! it's called prevention,. Murray didn't use prevention and he did look at the as greed he already had his own practice and had left a note outside his office stating, I will be away from my office for several months. This is a once an a life time offer. Now, WTF does that mean? He left his payments for a better offer period! nothing else but GREED and it's plan as day.

My cousin is a RN however she doesn't work in the hospital as a nurse, she teaches it at a university and has been so for at lest 17yrs and she is not even 50 yet. She told me right away, that doctor has will be in deep trouble and will do time. My stepson is a psychiatrist 45 yrs old lives in the bay area here in California, which mean he is a medical doctor with a specialty in psychiatry. He told me the lest they will do to him is to strip him of his license to practice medicine ever again period. Look, Murray was so damn greedy, he had a practice in Houston Texas, Las Vegas, and performed exams in California. Do you honestly think he is going to get a slap on the west for 1) administering medication in which he is unlicensed to do so and the person died , his life was taken due to him not following the laws and codes of ethics? HELL TO THE NO! 2) he with held information which he could have prevented Michael's death 3) what doctor do you know doesn't keep updated certificated to perform CPR? they know damn well he should have been on the floor. 4) the EMS who took Michael's body from his home knew how long he had been decessed, can't weasel outta that one either 5) why did he wait so long to call for assistance? Does Murray have alzheimer's is he even fit to perform medicine ? HELL TO THE NO! 6) He knew that administering propofol should have ONLY, ONLY, ONLYbe administered in hospital. That in itself is a crime. This doctor has done too much for this to be called a mistake, it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyond mistake. it's CRIMINAL and he will pay the ultimate for it! Trust me. Maybe he panicked after the fact, he feel asleep. But he knew from the very beginning what he was getting himself in for.

My girlfriend's husband was a doctor at kaiser hospital and had helped her because she too has lupus but he did something and lost his license to practice just recently. But he didn't kill anyone or no one died on his watch.
 
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well I do agree with you whole heart, no doubt mjalwaysonmymind.
What I mean is if he would only have done just his minimum job, then this wouldn't have happened. Bad enough he didn't even that or wasn't even able (we'll hear about that probably) true... and yes I also agree there's some criminal action he should be taken to court for and if possible even go to jail. He deserves to get the full possible punishment. I'm not trying to excuse him in anyway.

Still in my opinion the Murray Dr. is not the only one responsible... If others would have done their job how it is meant to be done, they could have prevented this also in my opinion.
And I want to see everyone to be taken accountable here.
 
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AP source: Jackson doc gave him drug before death



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_en_ce/us_michael_jackson_investigation
By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer Thomas Watkins, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 5 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson's personal doctor administered a powerful anesthetic to help him sleep, and authorities believe the drug is what killed the pop singer, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press on Monday.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, said Jackson regularly received propofol to sleep, a practice far outside the drug's intended purpose. On June 25, the day Jackson died, Dr. Conrad Murray gave him the drug sometime after midnight, the official said.

Though toxicology reports are pending, investigators are working under the theory that propofol caused Jackson's heart to stop, the official said.
Murray, 51, has been identified in court papers as the subject of a manslaughter investigation and authorities last week raided his office and a storage unit in Houston. Police say Murray is cooperating and have not labeled him a suspect.

Murray's lawyer, Edward Chernoff, has said the doctor "didn't prescribe or administer anything that should have killed Michael Jackson." When asked Monday about the law enforcement official's statements he said: "We will not be commenting on rumors, innuendo or unnamed sources."

Murray became Jackson's personal physician in May and was to accompany him to London for a series of concerts starting in July. He was staying with Jackson in a rented Los Angeles mansion and, according to Chernoff, found an unconscious Jackson in the pop star's bedroom the morning of June 25. Murray attempted to revive him but could not.
Police searching Jackson's home after his death found propofol and other drugs, an IV line and three tanks of oxygen in Jackson's bedroom, and 15 more oxygen tanks in a security guard's shack.

Propofol can depress breathing and lower heart rates and blood pressure. Because of the risks, propofol is only supposed to be administered in hospitals. Instructions on the drug's package warn that patients must be continuously monitored, and that equipment to maintain breathing, to provide artificial ventilation, and to administer oxygen if needed "must be immediately available."

Jackson had trouble sleeping and the official said he enlisted various doctors to administer propofol, relying on the drug like an alarm clock. He would decide what time he wanted to awaken and at the appointed hour a doctor would stop the intravenous drip that delivered the drug, the official said.
 
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On that same page is a link to a video and the reporter states that the IV was still in Michael's arm when the paramedics got there and Murray interferred with paramedics. Not sure its true or not but listen for yourselves.

I don't believe for a second that Michael was a drug addict. That's my opinion.
 
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I didn't believe in the drug stories either but Karen said he had an addiction to pain killers. I wonder how recent.
 
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If Michael was taking medicine/drugs for pain that's one thing. I don't think anyone alive can prove it. Michael loved life and he's too smart to jeopardize his own life. He loves his children more than his own life. He wouldn't "accidently" overdose. YES I know what an "accident is". "He" wouldn't make that kind of mistake. I won't believe it and if the media said he did OD I'll believe they're lying which is what many people want to believe about him but not me.

I "do" believe in conspiracies. "Truth is Stranger than Fiction". Michael had something that a large company wanted - he was in the way. They simply moved him out of the way.
 
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yaazgurl said:
I didn't believe in the drug stories either but Karen said he had an addiction to pain killers. I wonder how recent.
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I knew of an addiction that he announced back in the 90's and I thought it happened after the first trial in 93. I didn't know of anything recent. Maybe that's what she's referring to.
 
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yes but according to mez, he was lucid during teh trial. according to his former staff in 03 he could barely talk. so something must be up. too many conflicting reports going on.

it's easy to take meds for one thing and begin to use them for another. especially WHEN YOU'RE GIVEN more and told it's ok.

justlike his response to lee....my dr said it's fine to use. he said it's not dangerous
 
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GinnyJackson said:
i hope to hell that those doctors get body guards because they are gunna need them.

I hate this this is completely stupid Michael didnt need to die he was a good man with problems like anyone else. This doctor killed him and he needs to pay for it one way or another.
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Who is likely to threaten them? Michael's fans or possibly any business managers who paid for his death.

Michael would an asset even if dead because his music would continue to sell. A live Michael might be a liability because of the $40 million lawsuit by Allgood Entertainment.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-06-10-michael-jackson-suit_N.htm

Michael's managers would be in position to know the true state of his health. A need to rely on dangerous drugs would in itself be an indication of poor health that could have prevented him fulfilling his London contract. Jackson might have other health problems that were being covered up. If they might have forced him to cancel the concerts the result would have been a breach of contract lawsuit. However, death would eliminate that problem. If a live Michael were viewed as a liability by greedy managers they might have decided his death would be a good business move.
 
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Soso Deaf said:
yes but according to mez, he was lucid during teh trial. according to his former staff in 03 he could barely talk. so something must be up. too many conflicting reports going on.

it's easy to take meds for one thing and begin to use them for another. especially WHEN YOU'RE GIVEN more and told it's ok.

justlike his response to lee....my dr said it's fine to use. he said it's not dangerous
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Which staff was this? I'm so leery of anything that a dismissed staff member says - almost as if they're all in on it. Just a way to get back at Michael. I know we all wish we knew the truth. I'm still hoping that we will.
 
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reasonmclucus said:
Who is likely to threaten them? Michael's fans or possibly any business managers who paid for his death.

Michael would an asset even if dead because his music would continue to sell. A live Michael might be a liability because of the $40 million lawsuit by Allgood Entertainment.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-06-10-michael-jackson-suit_N.htm

Michael's managers would be in position to know the true state of his health. A need to rely on dangerous drugs would in itself be an indication of poor health that could have prevented him fulfilling his London contract. Jackson might have other health problems that were being covered up. If they might have forced him to cancel the concerts the result would have been a breach of contract lawsuit. However, death would eliminate that problem. If a live Michael were viewed as a liability by greedy managers they might have decided his death would be a good business move.
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I'm sort of on the same page as you. I think it goes waaaay back. Back to acquiring a certain catalog and owning 50% of a certain company and it pissing off the high powers that be and a planned revenge that worked out according to plan.

Truth is stranger than fiction
 
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snowhite said:
yes we know the difference isn't manslaughter just as bad?!
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no it isnt just as bad
its result in just as bad .. death
but one is premediated and one is accidental
that makes a difference in how we judge people
righteously ..

I dont REALLY believe the doctor killed MJ diliberatly :(
He could have convered it much better if that was
the case - he put himself in MJs room at the time of
death _ so it was not planned .. he could have
administered MJ a lethal injection of anything and
left - and it would all fall on MJ that he did it himself

the Dr left himself in the line of fire _ so I dont believe
he premeditated- he just was neglegant if indeed propofol
is found in Mjs sytem and that gross nelegence resulted
in our sweet Michaels death :(

I cant speculate further and have a good conscience
it hurts my sprirt if i do that :(

I just want the truth - I hope they are able to do a thoural investigation
and find the truth _ I hope it goes to trail so we can find out what happened
during those last hours after Mj left reheasal. if not we may never know _ what
happened or why ..
 
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Soso Deaf said:
well the delay wouldn't mean much. it was a full cardiac arrest. he had about a 10% chance in the first place. it was his actions before and after said cardiac arrest that will come in to play.

as well as his prior behaviours with regards to medicines. he'snot allowed to prescribe meds.....so he must've gotten them elsewhere....maybe klien.[/quote]

S*it, this really goe to the throat of performing 'malpractice' and endangering a patient. And Klien, now I see why they would investigate him....pains me to think that there's the possiblity of Klein putting in any harms way at all but...you never know with those who hung around Michael. Jesus..
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StaceyMJ said:
Oh God...this is painful. :(
What I don't understand though...how could Murray have been paid a shitload of money from someone to have done this? Money's no use when you're in prison right? I hope they're exploring everything. I can't believe it, Michael should still be here.
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Depends upon whether it's murder 1 or just manslaughter. The latter might not even include any significant prison time depending upon the judge.
 
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Murray's Vegas office and home are being raided today.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/28/ap-source-jackson-doc-gave-him-drug-death/

"Michael Flanagan, assistant special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration office in Las Vegas, said the DEA, Los Angeles Police Department and Metro Police are looking for documents at Murray's office at 2110 East Flamingo Road. Investigators also were searching his gated west Las Vegas Valley home today."

"Flanagan told several reporters outside Murray's office that the search warrant is sealed but pertains to Jackson's death.

"We are looking for documents," Flanagan said, but didn't specify what kind of documents investigators were looking for.

Murray was home when investigators arrived. His staff members are cooperating at his office, Flanagan said."

With the feds involved, if Murray was paid to kill Michael he could get into the witness protection program if he talked.
 
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How could a doctor be sooo stupid. I mean, really. You're treating the most famous person on the planet, and you're not extra careful and vigilant?

It's very hard to believe that a doctor, or anyone for that matter, could be this dumb.

Hmm...

I guess we'll see what happens next.
 
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reasonmclucus said:
Murray's Vegas office and home are being raided today.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/28/ap-source-jackson-doc-gave-him-drug-death/

"Michael Flanagan, assistant special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration office in Las Vegas, said the DEA, Los Angeles Police Department and Metro Police are looking for documents at Murray's office at 2110 East Flamingo Road. Investigators also were searching his gated west Las Vegas Valley home today."

"Flanagan told several reporters outside Murray's office that the search warrant is sealed but pertains to Jackson's death.

"We are looking for documents," Flanagan said, but didn't specify what kind of documents investigators were looking for.

Murray was home when investigators arrived. His staff members are cooperating at his office, Flanagan said."

With the feds involved, if Murray was paid to kill Michael he could get into the witness protection program if he talked.[/quote]

Just for the heck of it, lets pretend the Dr was the Pawn and the Player had prior incriminating information on the doctor to blackmail him if he didn't take the hit for Michael's death. (Michael's premeditated death being a part of the Players long planned project -whether or not the dr knew about this project)

Then lets pretend the dr said to the Player that he would spill his guts and go to the authorites with what he knew about the Player and the others involved in Michael's demise. So the Player threatened the doctors family.

Let's pretend that the Player also told the doctor that if he went to prison and squealed, that they had people in prison who could wipe him off the face of the planet. Because if they could get to Michael - they could get to anyone.

That's a lot of pretending.
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