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Wow! I see both on my screen....what about this one? It's smaller. Can you see it?

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Wait a minute! Now it disappeared. Don't know why. Oh well, here's the link.

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^ I can see it too, lol. I mean the one you posted first :yes:
 
Folks, I've cleaned out the petty arguements between a few of you.

On the topic of humour ....Please note personal attacks are not funny and only get rewarded with infractions :yes:
 
Bee1983 said:
I did not see how that was snotty or disrespectful at all. It was a joke. It was never meant to insult Mike. Big Boy was not meant to kiss theman's ass and I wouldnot shocked if MJ could care less what Big Boy said about his nose. Mike also made fun of himself as well. He is in the music business this long for a reason: he has tough skin. That man was called every word and a nose joke that Big Boy said you are going to take it as disrespect? I think that some of you fans protect MJ way too much to have a sense of humor and LAUGH! It was funny.



Ok, here is my question - why come on a positive thread and talk about something that really had nothing to do with the topic at hand? You took one part of someone's opinion and just ran with it. Did youlisten to the audio? At the very last part of the interview is where the nose joke was mentioned. The entire audio was positive and on point. However, all you want to dwell on is something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.



First of all - Eminem is a loser. I do not care what anyone says. He should have never went there with MJ. He trashed the man when the man was down. For that, I have zero respect for the "man".

Second, Big Boy's impersonation of MJ's voice was not "lame". He was trying to tell the story. Everyone mocks Michael's voice. You think MJ gives a damn? No. What Big Boy did was just telling people how MJ sounds. We all know that Mike really does not talk like that, but who cares? He compared Blanklet to Penelope Cruz - not only was that funny, it was lighthearted. We all seen that child, he is cute and he kinda reminds me of what his mother might look like. To Big Boy, Blanket looked like the actress to him. That was never meant to erase Blanket's man side considering the fact that Blanket is a boy and nowhere near a man. It also had nothing to do with MJ's manhood. It was a silly joke, that was funny, about the child. However, have you listen to what Big Boy said about MJ's son? Maybe you did not. He talked about how quiet and well behaved the boy was. Do you know how many five years are NOT like that? Exactly my point. What video? It is an audio. As for the mirror comment, what is the point of saying that? I looked at the situation as positive, lighthearted and funny. I think what was said had more substance then silly jokes that are harmless. Who knows, Big Boy could have said that to MJ's face and Mike laughed.



Exactly, Dats. Moonwalker was a great example of MJ making fun at himself and Steve Harvey did tell Extra during the trial that MJ has a sense of humor. Remember, Big Boy also said that MJ did not hold back his tongue. Who knows what kind of crazyiness, silly, you-know-Mike-was-not-right-with-that-comment things that MJ said. When someone says that a person does not hold its toungue, it means that the conversation that Big Boy had with Mike was as honest, as raw, as in your face as it can possibily be.
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Having tough skin has got nothing to do with making fun of a person you just met, and it certainly does not have anything to do with respect either. And the last part you wrote regarding us, fans, having a sense of humor and laugh has got nothing to do with not having one, but with having one that can tell good humor and bad, tasteless humor apart.

It has got everything to do with the topic at hand, but I see you are the one running away with superficial remarks that have nothing to do with the topic. Moreover, this thread was getting negative long before I intervened and I was pointing things I saw wrong, while you are coming here to holler and defend a tasteless banter. I very much listened to the audio, otherwise I wouldn't have known about the other rude comments Big Boy made. And no, the entire audio was not positive and on point at all, but it is your free choice to consider it otherwise.

And first of all, you need to chill. While I don't have the utmost respect for Eminem, what he said makes him not more of a devil than Big Boy, and Big Boy should have never went there with Michael either, it is the same thing, it doesn't matter he is no longer down, like he was on trial, he made the same remarks Eminem did on the video and for that, he is no different.
Actually lower, because Eminem apologized.

Big Boy's voice impersonation was low and lame while trying to tell the story, it is called mockery, and while I find other impersonations of his more fun to listen to, this one was plain gross, even though Michael may not give a damn. The Penelope Cruz joke was probably the most lighthearted one of that interview, but the rest not. And yes, as I said before, I listened to the entire interview and yes, as I wrote before, but probably you didn't see, was that I saw there were positive opinions in it on behalf of Boy and I didn't dismiss the whole interview, but only the shady parts of it. And, once again, don't jump like that on people without reading the posts better, when I said "video", I was talking about the Eminem video with which I compared the nose joke. And as for the mirror comment, it was another relevant point I made, which I am not going to dwell on. Don't jump at people's remarks because they saw something wrong with certain points, your view on the interview was that it is positive, and my view on it is that it is both positive and negative. But I was responding to the interview and linked it to other similar ones, not attacking people's points of view like you do. And this situation has got nothing to do with defending Michael at all costs, these realistic fans-worshipping fans division or stereotypes are purely childish and outdated already; I was, first of all, detecting a flawed sense of humour and I concluded my points based on what other people would feel if they were made fun of, lightheartedly or not, like that. How would you respond to some guy who would tell in your face or behind your back that your nose is falling, but that's okay, since you have some spare ones upstairs to use. Would you laugh? Instinctively, yes.

Having a sense of humor like Michael has as well does not exempt him or others from not considering jokes suchlike as funny; and he may not even care for them and may choose to not listen to them, but don't tell me he would think comments related to stupid nose-falling scenarios would make him laugh, not since plastic surgery comments have always proved irritating to him. He would ignore them, he might, but not feel amused by them. And he and Big Boy did talk about things honestly and he did not cuss before his son, and Boy confirmed it in the interview. Michael is a very funny man, but he is no Big Boy not holding his tongue on air about trivial matters, he shows people respect, and others have no idea what respect is all about.

Edit: And I agree, this discussion, as others, will lead to nowhere apparently and it is getting totally ridiculous, especially since some have to explain themselves more than once, because they are wrongly understood, thus risk being deemed as crazy because of that.
 
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50% of people said that they were not offended and 50 % said that they were. Nobody is going to win this argumnent.Nobody knows how MJ feels so we are all talking about how we feel. We all need to learn how to agree to disagree and let go of an argument when all is said and done. I have said what I wanted to say and I have stopped arguing. it really is pointless to go on and on when nobody is going to change their views. The only thing that can follow from this is people attacking each other which is exactly what happened. Pointless discussion, I'd say.
 
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eh debating is fun, when its done right. LOL

On the topic of humour ....Please note personal attacks are not funny and only get rewarded with infractions :yes:
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Thank. You. LOL
 
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AllForMJ said:
Both photos are posted above...the one with Big Boy and the one with Katherine and Joe. The one with his parents was taken in the early 90's.
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oh..it appeared after i played a little tag with the computer..lol..ur right MJ truly hasn't changed.
 
Seeing how many people took the nose comment seriously and are offended by it, sometimes I sure am glad I don't know any die-hard MJ fans irl, lol. Jesus. You might as well eliminate any joke that goes over PG-13 from existence if you don't got a nose for this. No pun intended.
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I know. It is just insane. I cannot believe that after everything that we all had to endure reagrding a bunch of punks (not including Big Boy and the show itself) trashing MJ and Mike's character being assignated during that trial, that one silly joke about Mike'snose is going to take over a whole thread. It is a pretty sad state of affairs on the MJ boards. I mean, most of us have been fans of this great man for years and the nose jokes STILL bother some people? All I have to say is damn. LOL.

i don't think he'd cry about it or anything like that, ur right he's been called all everything under the sun, but that doesn't mean that i can just go on and talk about whatever thte hell i want about him, as long as it's not a 'child molestor'....doesn't mean that what he said wasn't bogus. Jokes are jokes, but there are other things involving MJ u can joke about...instead of his LOOKS and his PLASTIC SURGERY, something that's obviously pretty dang sensitive to him.
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It was never implied that MJ would cry about that or get angry. Well, you do not have to talk about him the way you want to. However, Big Boy is gonna say what he wants to regardless. If he wanted tomake a big joke about Mike's nose, so what? The man did not go there and trashed Mike's cahracter or his child's character. He just simply talked about the man as a person. That is why I like the interview because he displayed MJ as the kind of person that he truly, imo, is - a cool dude. Yes, jokes are jokes and the nose joke is a joke so what is the real problem with the joke? We are fans of a man who had plastic surgery.The jokes about his face are bound to happen to what is the big deal? Looks are just looks at the end of the day. I think MJ is a good looking man, regardless of how people view him. Big Boy also did not try to say that MJ looks a certain race like that fool Jamie Foxx did when he was talking to Teddy Riley. Now, if Big Boy went there, my whole attitude about him would change. I doubt that his looks and plastic surgery are "sensitive" to him when it happened years ago and things have changed since then.

i don't think what he said was funny...and I have a sense of humor when it comes to MJ. It was a cheep shot and YES, disrespectful. Not something I see MJ laughing at. Sorry. If the man avoids talking about the subject in freakin interviews, then i don't think making fun of it is a wise thing to do.
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Well, that is your opinion. Hopefully you would judge the interview based on substance than anything else.

what's really sad is that if someone wants to defend MJ about the nose jokes they're made to feel like pariahs.
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No, not really. What is really sad is when people can't seem to have a healthy debate with someone and agree to disagree without assuming that fans are attacking other fans who have a difference of an opinion. The last time I checked,I was on a discussion board.

i don't think anyone has been in MJ's position enough to know what he's feeling. besides..i don't think anyone here has proven that they could take such a joke. we are all touchy with each other, for goodness sakes..lol
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And I'm going to say that the opposing side is too sensitive all I want.
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would Big Boy say that to MJ's face instead of outside the meeting where he knew people would find it funny?
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Yes. And I think MJ would laugh. Some of you people would disagree with me, but we all can agree to disagree.

Would he really say something like that to MJ's face? No, i don't think so, cuz he knows it's bogus and disrespectful lol
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LOL! Girl, you are funny.

I say if u can't joke about it in front of that person's face, then it's probably not a good thing to say period.
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How would you know that he did not say that to MJ's face? See, we have no clue what really happened, so why even dwell on a nose joke? If MJ did not want people to make funof his nose, then he should have never had a nose job. I love the man like family, but I gotta be real and tell it like it is.

I like when MJ fans say they have a sense of humor about MJ, but seemingly have a very limited and on edge one, if at all
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LOL. You are not right. LOL.


Big Boy said that MJ laughed at stuff he "wasn't supposed to," whatever that means, so what if he laughed at something that wasn't classy?
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Yes, he did say that and that got me thinking of what things that MJ was laughing about! LOL. Mike is great, I tell ya!

And considering the trial was obviously one of the worst times of his life, i'd stay clear of that one too.
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Now, if Big Boy went there with the trial and said some awful things, then I would be bashing his ass. However, he did not so I am not gonna go there.

even if it is a know sensitive issue to MJ?
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However, here is the thing - what makes you think that it was sensitive to Mike?

Well, this discussion is pretty good, actually. I hope no one is offended by my reply.
 
Well 1) I know talk about his appearance/ plastic surgery is sensitive to MJ cuz he avoids talking about it PERIOD, even in interviews. And the whole thing about his brothers making fun of his appearance was obviously a big deal to mj

and 2) I didnt say that the joke made me not like the interview or whatever. I enjoyed the interview. I dont think its THAT big of a deal, HOWEVER, i wish he didnt say that and i think it's disrespectful to MJ. Its a joke but an insensitive one. But if u dont think that MJ feels what people say about his face or cares what people think, then i guess there's no harm in the joke for you. Even if he does take offense, i dont think there's that much harm in it because MJ probably doesnt even know about it. I just don't think it was appropriate and it was tasteless.

3) How do i know or why do i think Big Boy DIDN'T say it to his face? I talked about that in another post.
 
J5master said:
Well 1) I know talk about his appearance/ plastic surgery is sensitive to MJ cuz he avoids talking about it PERIOD, even in interviews. And the whole thing about his brothers making fun of his appearance was obviously a big deal to mj

and 2) I didnt say that the joke made me not like the interview or whatever. I enjoyed the interview. I dont think its THAT big of a deal, HOWEVER, i wish he didnt say that and i think it's disrespectful to MJ. Its a joke but an insensitive one. But if u dont think that MJ feels what people say about his face or cares what people think, then i guess there's no harm in the joke for you. Even if he does take offense, i dont think there's that much harm in it because MJ probably doesnt even know about it. I just don't think it was appropriate and it was tasteless.

3) How do i know or why do i think Big Boy DIDN'T say it to his face? I talked about that in another post.
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If someone made a joke about Heather Mccartney's false leg, I would be offended, because I know that she may be hurt by it.
It is impossible to be hurt by a joke that isn't true. Why should you be. MJ doesn't have a nose that is removable, so that is what makes the joke funny. People stare at MJ when they see him cause they are looking for all the plastis surgery. The problem is when they meet him they are very surprised because there is no surgery, because he had no surgery except for his nose. That is the reality of it.
So why should he be offended by ignorant people. MJ wears a lot of disguises and obviously enjoys making himself look ugly. take the Scarecrow from the wiz, take Thriller, take Ghosts. Take his masks that he wears in public and all the various disguises. This tells me that MJ does not care if he looks odd in public.
He enjoys the thrill of looking ugly in public. I am almost convinced that MJ deliberately add things to his face to look a certain way. Remember that he wears false teeth and beard and sheik outfits etc. That doesn't sound like a man who is sensitive about his looks to me.
Yes, he may not have liked being teased when he was a kid, but don't you think he has grown out of that now? MJ is a master teaser, by the way.:)
 
well it is the same person you guys.. :)

lol! Why do we get so suprized when we see major resemblances of old MJ pics.. lol! I do the same thing.
 
Datsymay said:
50% of people said that they were not offended and 50 % said that they were. We all need to learn how to agree to disagree and let go of an argument when all is said and done. I have said what I wanted to say and I have stopped arguing. it really is pointless to go on and on when nobody is going to change their views. Pointless discussion, I'd say.
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Yet this pointless discussion still continues.
 
Why is this thread discussing topics not permitted on the site? Michael's surgery is part of his health and off limits. Please return to the main topic - thank you.
 
that's the biggest trap that is set when people are considering posting a thread. i feel like they should think about the potential for forbidden subjects to be discussed, cus i know they will be...it's such a slippery slope...

i was thinking about reporting a thread that is posted in the photography section, till i read that my reason for posting the report didn't fit with the rules. and yet forbidden stuff is being discussed in that thread too, and people are getting away with it.

check that..edit..it has been removed from the photo section to another...like someone's tryin to hide it..
 
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Datsymay said:
If someone made a joke about Heather Mccartney's false leg, I would be offended, because I know that she may be hurt by it.
It is impossible to be hurt by a joke that isn't true. Why should you be. MJ doesn't have a nose that is removable, so that is what makes the joke funny. People stare at MJ when they see him cause they are looking for all the plastis surgery. The problem is when they meet him they are very surprised because there is no surgery, because he had no surgery except for his nose. That is the reality of it.
So why should he be offended by ignorant people. MJ wears a lot of disguises and obviously enjoys making himself look ugly. take the Scarecrow from the wiz, take Thriller, take Ghosts. Take his masks that he wears in public and all the various disguises. This tells me that MJ does not care if he looks odd in public.
He enjoys the thrill of looking ugly in public. I am almost convinced that MJ deliberately add things to his face to look a certain way. Remember that he wears false teeth and beard and sheik outfits etc. That doesn't sound like a man who is sensitive about his looks to me.
Yes, he may not have liked being teased when he was a kid, but don't you think he has grown out of that now? MJ is a master teaser, by the way.:)
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Are you serious? Ur comparing disguises/make up (especially in music videos) to plastic surgery?

Well u guys can believe what u want but I really don't think MJ feels nor thinks or purposely tries to look ugly in public, but if u think that then fine.

Like i said, I'm not personally offended by it. I don't know why people keep forcing that down my throat lol.

And based on LWMJ, he still look pretty damned hurt just talking about that stuff...about his appearance, about the jokes they made about him. Soooo again, there are a million things in teh world to joke around with Michael about, but if i were to meet the man, plastic surgery would not be one of those things I'd pick.

If MJ weren't offended by plastic surgery talk/jokes he wouldn't make sure interviewers NOT ask about it and not talk about it. If MJ was so open and 'not caring' about what people say about his face then MJ wouldn't care if interviewers ask him questions about it.

Fact is MANY MANY people say MJ's nose falls off all the time, in malicious ways. It is a known joke, as popular as "MJ likes playing with lil boys". That MJ has a defective nose...and it may be ridiculous to us and we may take it lightheartedly cuz we're fans, but a lot of people look at that and take it seriously...seriously meaning they really DO think his nose is collapsing or whatever, and they find THAT funny.
 
Datsymay said:
If someone made a joke about Heather Mccartney's false leg, I would be offended, because I know that she may be hurt by it.
It is impossible to be hurt by a joke that isn't true. Why should you be. MJ doesn't have a nose that is removable, so that is what makes the joke funny. People stare at MJ when they see him cause they are looking for all the plastis surgery. The problem is when they meet him they are very surprised because there is no surgery, because he had no surgery except for his nose. That is the reality of it.
So why should he be offended by ignorant people. MJ wears a lot of disguises and obviously enjoys making himself look ugly. take the Scarecrow from the wiz, take Thriller, take Ghosts. Take his masks that he wears in public and all the various disguises. This tells me that MJ does not care if he looks odd in public.
He enjoys the thrill of looking ugly in public. I am almost convinced that MJ deliberately add things to his face to look a certain way. Remember that he wears false teeth and beard and sheik outfits etc. That doesn't sound like a man who is sensitive about his looks to me.
Yes, he may not have liked being teased when he was a kid, but don't you think he has grown out of that now? MJ is a master teaser, by the way.:)
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Are you serious? Ur comparing disguises/make up (especially in music videos) to plastic surgery?

Well u guys can believe what u want but I really don't think MJ feels nor thinks or purposely tries to look ugly in public, but if u think that then fine.

Like i said, I'm not personally offended by it. I don't know why people keep forcing that down my throat lol.

And based on LWMJ, he still look pretty damned hurt just talking about that stuff...about his appearance, about the jokes they made about him. Soooo again, there are a million things in teh world to joke around with Michael about, but if i were to meet the man, plastic surgery would not be one of those things I'd pick.

If MJ weren't offended by plastic surgery talk/jokes he wouldn't make sure interviewers NOT ask about it and not talk about it. If MJ was so open and 'not caring' about what people say about his face then MJ wouldn't care if interviewers ask him questions about it.

Fact is MANY MANY people say MJ's nose falls off all the time, in malicious ways. It is a known joke, as popular as "MJ likes playing with lil boys". That MJ has a defective nose...and it may be ridiculous to us and we may take it lightheartedly cuz we're fans, but a lot of people look at that and take it seriously...seriously meaning they really DO think his nose is collapsing or whatever, and they find THAT funny.

Fact is, no i don't know how MJ would react to things. But I'd rather NOT take the chance of offending the man with insensitive comments about something as private as his plastic surgery...just for a cheep laugh. And IMO 9 time out of 10, MJ would not appreciate a comment like that. There are other ways to get laughter, that is all i'm saying.
 
i think between the fact that MJ does soo few interviews, and the fact that people perceive him as soo quiet, and that his music seems to be such a great outlet in the minds of the fans, that, many people assume that they know how MJ feels about things. the fact that he doesn't do many interviews should be enough to tell us that we cannot assume how MJ feels about anything. and from that..the nice thing would be to then be left to assume how WE would feel if we were in his shoes. when all is said and done, we should assume that we should be the way we would be if we were going to a job interview...or meeting him in person. that's when we assume we won't say anything negative whatsoever. i really don't see what's so hard about that. and quite frankly, everyone whose idea of a positive fo MJ is someone else's idea of a negative, should know that their idea of a positive for themselves would be EVERYONE'S idea of a positive.
 
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