Michael Jackson Death Investigation Complete (TMZ - merged)

Jackson doctor 'to be charged', media didn't ask official sources

Legal scuttlebutt in LA went around the world instantly about possible charges against Michael Jackson’s doctor, Conrad Murray. Less impressive is the fact that 927 news articles were produced before someone checked facts about any actual prosecution.
The theory, and at this stage it's just a theory, is that the possible charges are based on supposed breaches of standards of medical practice. Google News listed practically anything with two tin cans and a piece of string as covering the issue.
Murray denies all charges, and isn’t commenting on the rumors. The legal position is nebulous, at best, because of the medical practice issues, which require a qualified assessment before any action can take place.
The LA District Attorney’s office was said to be waiting for police to hand over the case, although this has been the case for a while now, and confirmation from official sources was lacking. The “anonymous sources” element also helped making facts hard to pin down. Nobody but Murray’s lawyer is being quoted. The only factual information from the official level about progress of this matter is that the investigation has now been completed.
Coverage has been mixed, to put it mildly. Radar reports that the Head Deputy DA, Patrick Dixon, who worked on the Spector case, has been assigned to conduct the prosecution, interesting news in view of the fact no official prosecution has been ordered.
The difference between rumor and fact in this instance is that there is no case, and no basis for the massive gossip, until a prosecution is formally in process. The information so far is meaningless, until that happens. AP and Fox have taken a more balanced approach, stating only that the prosecution is under consideration, not that there’s been a decision.
TMZ, a blog, has meanwhile reported that Murray has a connection with Britney Spears. His lawyer is the one who got charges dropped against Spears in the hit and run case a few years ago.
The information and news quality at this stage was highly debatable. Not one of these pieces had a word about any official statements. Actual information finally occurred when somebody got off their major anatomical assets and rang LA DA and asked what was happening.
ABC News, after running an earlier piece in the same vein, later reported that the LA DA hasn’t decided to lay charges. Some sources are still publishing the rumor, hours after ABC's statement of the situation.
Journalism? When did that get a mention?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285321
 
I hope guilt haunts him... HAUNTS, FOLLOWS, AND STAYS with him...

He killed a man. A man who is love by millions and millions of people despite what the media thinks. I hope his guilt will force him to acknowledge his mistakes.
 
It took too long in my opinion.Yes ,He was the last person to last see Michael alive but said he didn't give him anything that would have killed him ,well he did kill him knowingly or not and he must be punished for what happened to Michael and ofcourse there are others involved along with him .I think The LAPD want the case to be closed with Murray. I think We fans should let them know that they need to get the rest of them who are responsible and let this mess come to be in the sudden departure of Our Michael.There is still no Justice and still no peace until this is completely over.
 
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Wow, that article actually put some thought into it unlike most major media sources.

The last sentence is too true. There is no integrity in journalism anymore. :no:
 
Once again it seems the media is pulling the strings and the fans are reacting to it.

It says a lot about how we never learn.
 
I'm not sure of what people are not understanding here? I'm 99.9 percent certain that there will BE no trial. Charges will be filed. They may be light. Murray will plead guilty. He will get a light sentence, and then will retreat to the tropics, have a colorful drink with a little umbrella in it, and work on his BOOK.

For all those who said "wait and see?" NO. Change happens because we make it so. Just THINK, ok? We are legion. We loved/love Michael.


And I am supposed to feel that way because you do? Are you kidding me?
 
I'm not sure of what people are not understanding here? I'm 99.9 percent certain that there will BE no trial. Charges will be filed. They may be light. Murray will plead guilty. He will get a light sentence, and then will retreat to the tropics, have a colorful drink with a little umbrella in it, and work on his BOOK.

For all those who said "wait and see?" NO. Change happens because we make it so. Just THINK, ok? We are legion. We loved/love Michael.

exactly my thoughts

im only afraid that they will use this case to humiliate Michael again. Will create a new media circus. Will use it as a second wave to sell more "MJ stuff"
Michael is not here to defend himself that's why nobody but fans care.

I think it's likely that after he's done with probation he'll leave the country, go to a tropical island, work on his book, and bask in the sun. He'll be fine.
yeah he'll probably say because of these bad bad fans who dont understand that he did nothing wrong and keep threatening him. patients will cry and give him huge bouquets of red and white roses.
 
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First of all: let me stress that I hope that justice served and whoever was involved, be it one man or more, gets the highest punishment possible, because Michael could have still been here if....He SHOULD have still been here, he didn't have to die!

On the other hand: the facts are thus far: the case has not been handed over yet and no charges have been filed yet so we are are speculating and getting angry and upset over rumors.



I think we need to be a little more patient ( it's hard yes) and wait to see what actually happens and then we will react to it.
 
access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

sorry if this has been posted mods feel free to move or delete if it has,
i came across this this morning on the access hollywood website,
are they a trustworthy source?



http://www.accesshollywood.com/das-...e-to-file-conrad-murray-charges_article_27480#


DA’s Office On Jackson Doctor: ‘We Don’t Have A Case’ To File Conrad Murray Charges

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FIRST PUBLISHED: January 8, 2010 2:45 PM EST


LOS ANGELES, Calif. --
Contrary to a report claiming proseuctors are ready to seek an “involuntary manslaughter indictment” against Dr. Conrad Murray, charges are not being filed against Michael Jackson’s doctor, the LA District Attorney’s office told Access Hollywood.
“This is not true,” Jane Robison, press secretary for the DA’s office, told Access. “We don’t have a case.”
She confirmed the LAPD has yet to hand the case over.
“We can’t file charges without having the evidence,” she continued.
An LAPD spokesman confirmed the information to NBC News.
On Friday, The Associated Press reported the DA’s office would “seek an involuntary manslaughter indictment” against Murray, who cared for Jackson prior to his June 25 death last year, with the case resting on “a theory of gross negligence.”
 
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From what we know factually-the investigation has been completed and that Murray has hired a criminal lawyer. He knows what's about to go down. Even if he does serve jail time for manslaughter he'll be out in a couple years, then go back home to Trinidad, sit on a beach and carry on with his life like nothing happened. The Jackson family have to continue theirs for the rest of their lives without their son and brother. Prince, Paris and Blanket have to live their lives without their father, and the fans have to continue their lives without Michael. Its easy for Murray, a few years and this whole thing will be over, but its certainly not over for the Jacksons or any of us.
 
Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

Oh my god, I don't like seeing this guy's photo. :mad: But about the source, I don't know how reliable it is. But I hope it's not true.
 
Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

yeah..the police said they had a completed investigation, and they'd hand it over to the DA's office within weeks. they said they had enough evidence to seek that minimal charge. they didn't say what the DA's office said. the cops said it's 'complicated'. and the cops didn't specify how many weeks before they hand it over to the DA
 
Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

all this is making me feel physically sick,

and if they file charges under gross neglagence this is still not enougth,i mean accidentally killing someone is one thing,but making phone calls to 3 seperate people before even calling the emergancy services is more than neglagence ,it is pure wickedness,
 
From what we know factually-the investigation has been completed and that Murray has hired a criminal lawyer. He knows what's about to go down. Even if he does serve jail time for manslaughter he'll be out in a couple years, then go back home to Trinidad, sit on a beach and carry on with his life like nothing happened. The Jackson family have to continue theirs for the rest of their lives without their son and brother. Prince, Paris and Blanket have to live their lives without their father, and the fans have to continue their lives without Michael. Its easy for Murray, a few years and this whole thing will be over, but its certainly not over for the Jacksons or any of us.
:( that's the sad reality of all this but at least if he's punished it's acknowledging that he did somthing wrong.
 
I for one ain't worried about Murrays new lawyer so what he got a nurse aquitted.. This is MICHAEL JACKSON the world greatest entertainer this ase is way to high profile that they think just cause he got someone else away wit the charge.. 2 many people watchin and waiting to see Murray get charged for what he done..
 
I'm feeling more positive now that Murray will be charged and jailed.
 
However, what I'm not understanding is how he didn't break the law by administering Propofol to Michael. My mother, who works with doctors on the daily basis and is becoming a doctor herself, said that what he did was malpractice, and, therefore, against the law. He isn't an anesthesiologist and in order to administer a drug that powerful, one must be present. And on top of that, when administering a drug that powerful, the patient can NOT under any circumstances be left unattended even for a moment. During surgeries, when a drug like this would be administered, there is ALWAYS someone monitering vitals (which in Michael's case, no one was watching at the time of his death) and anesthesiologist is always monitering the patient to make sure that there is no negative effects from the drug on the person's body.
I found this on an other board. I just wondering too. Don't understand how it is possibel.
 
Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

Give me a freaking break!! ''We don't have enough evidence/we don't have a case against to file charges''. If this was someone else they'd have their evidence and a case within two weeks!
 
Posted Oct 7th 2009 9:03AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned the LAPD is on schedule to present the case against Dr. Conrad Murray to the L.A. County D.A.‘s office next week.

As we first reported, LAPD detectives planned to wrap up their case and present it by the second week in October. They were waiting on some written evaluations by medical professionals who reviewed the evidence surrounding Michael Jackson‘s death.

Our law enforcement sources say the medical reports are in and the LAPD plans to formally present the case to the D.A. next week.

Prosecutors have been working with the LAPD for months now, so it‘s not as if the evidence will be a surprise.

Sources say Dr. Murray is still the sole target.

One well-placed law enforcement source says there‘s a "70/30 chance" the D.A. will take the case to the L.A. County Grand Jury rather than charge Murray directly.

As one source said, this could be a complicated case and a lengthy preliminary hearing wouldn‘t have a whole lot of upside for prosecutors. A grand jury indictment would be easy to get and it would avoid a prelim.


this article is more than three months ago!
 
Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

Posted Oct 7th 2009 9:03AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned the LAPD is on schedule to present the case against Dr. Conrad Murray to the L.A. County D.A.‘s office next week.

As we first reported, LAPD detectives planned to wrap up their case and present it by the second week in October. They were waiting on some written evaluations by medical professionals who reviewed the evidence surrounding Michael Jackson‘s death.

Our law enforcement sources say the medical reports are in and the LAPD plans to formally present the case to the D.A. next week.

Prosecutors have been working with the LAPD for months now, so it‘s not as if the evidence will be a surprise.

Sources say Dr. Murray is still the sole target.

One well-placed law enforcement source says there‘s a "70/30 chance" the D.A. will take the case to the L.A. County Grand Jury rather than charge Murray directly.

As one source said, this could be a complicated case and a lengthy preliminary hearing wouldn‘t have a whole lot of upside for prosecutors. A grand jury indictment would be easy to get and it would avoid a prelim.
this article is more than three months ago!
 
I for one ain't worried about Murrays new lawyer so what he got a nurse aquitted..

funny how this new lawyer has become a major expert on this specific matter based on only one case of this kind...anyway the nurse situation was different even if the subject is the same...
 
Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

Yes it is
Detectives completed the investigations but not the
handed justice
After the surrender shall be paid by the prosecution whether or not to indict
Murray
Some say detectives that Murray will not be indicted because not violate the law
Others say he will be indicted for manslaughter but, so
if you are arrested just pick up to 4 years in prison

I can not believe a country like the U.S. it is happening.
If Murray can administer propofol, how can disrespect their
other attitudes?
He used propofol intravenously at a residence that did not have equipment
Necessary, to verify heart rate and blood pressure measurement
He administered a dose above the normal, and had already given other medicines
He left the room and monitoring should stay or leave an assist in the making
He is not called 911, was a security guard who did after a long time
He is not helped rescuers why not say what was injected into Michael
He fled, not provided assistance to anyone, nor the family of Michael
How can some researchers find that he acted with the law?
As can be left as manslaughter?
I still hope he is arrested for impunity ja see
happen here in my country, in Brazil, but we still
are not first world

We will wait but if this is confirmed, we should go out on the streets
and protest, just doing press for actions to be taken
Today we are the voice of Michael
We must defend it and fight or justice

I love you Michael

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q1aBNS820s
 
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Re: access hollywood are saying murray not being charged,

Yes it is
Detectives terminaramas investigations but not the
handed justice
After the surrender shall be paid by the prosecution whether or not to indict
Murray
Some say detectives that Murray will not be indicted because not violate the law
Others say he will be indicted for manslaughter but, so
if you are arrested just pick up to 4 years in prison

I can not believe a country like the U.S. it is happening.
If Murray can administer propofol, how can disrespect their
other attitudes?
He used propofol intravenously at a residence that did not have equipment
Necessary, to verify heart rate and blood pressure measurement
He administered a dose above the normal, and had already given other medicines
He left the room and monitoring should stay or leave an assist in the making
He is not called 911, was a security guard who did after a long time
He is not helped rescuers why not say what was injected into Michael
He fled, not provided assistance to anyone, nor the family of Michael
How can some researchers find that he acted with the law?
As can be left as manslaughter?
I still hope he is arrested for impunity ja see
happen here in my country, in Brazil, but we still
are not first world
thank you, you speaking from my heart.
 
Michael Jackson's Doctor To Be Indicted: Source

Prosecutors are prepared to seek an indictment of Michael Jackson's doctor on a charge of involuntary manslaughter in the pop star's death, The Associated Press has learned.

A law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation remains open said Friday that Conrad Murray would be prosecuted on a theory of gross negligence alleging that his treatment of Jackson was an extreme departure from the standard of care normally followed by physicians.

The coroner has ruled Jackson's death at age 50 a homicide with his death caused by acute intoxication of the powerful anesthetic propofol with other sedatives a contributing factor.

Propofol depresses breathing and the heart rate and lowers blood pressure so it's supposed to be administered by an anesthesia professional in a medical setting.

The coroner found the propofol was administered to Jackson without any medical need and that recommended resuscitation equipment was missing. The singer was found to be in relatively good health for a man his age and no illegal drugs were detected in his system.

Murray, a cardiologist, was with the star at his rented Los Angeles mansion in June and tried to revive him when he was found unconscious.

Miranda Sevcik, a spokeswoman in Houston for Murray and his lawyer, Edward Chernoff, said Friday the doctor had no comment and reiterated he neither prescribed nor administered anything that should have killed Michael Jackson.

Jackson died while under Murray's care as the singer prepared for an ambitious concert schedule.
The district attorney's office is waiting for Los Angeles police to turn over the case before presenting it to a grand jury, the person said.

A spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, however, denied that any decisions have been made.
"We have been working closely with the Los Angeles police during the pendency of this investigation," spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said. "There is no case before us at present and no final decision has been made."

To prove a charge of involuntary manslaughter, authorities must show there was a reckless action that created a risk of death or great bodily injury. If a doctor is aware of the risk, there might also be an issue of whether the patient knows that risk and decided to take it.

A large number of witnesses have been interviewed by police, including those who were present during Jackson's last days and those who worked with him in preparation for his comeback concert, "This Is It."

Authorities have also lined up medical expert witnesses who will testify about the normal standard of care in a situation such as Jackson's and will give opinions on why Murray's actions constituted gross negligence, the person said.

The police investigation was substantially completed by the end of December, the person said.

Murray's professional history is expected to be explored during a trial with an emphasis on whether he had the required expertise in administering propofol.

The timing of an indictment will be dictated by two factors - how long it takes for the district attorney's office to conduct an internal review of the evidence and when the grand jury will be available to hear the case.

The person said it was thought that it would be more efficient to go to a grand jury than to charge Murray and proceed by way of a preliminary hearing. A presentation to the grand jury where witnesses testify behind closed doors could take three to five days.

Murray has offices in Las Vegas and Houston. He was hired by Jackson not long before the pop star's death to travel with him on the tour that was to begin in London.

• Associated Press Writer Ken Ritter in Las Vegas contributed to this story.

http://www.billboard.com/news/micha...kson-s-doctor-to-be-indicted-1004057840.story
 
Thanks for the article!

To prove a charge of involuntary manslaughter, authorities must show there was a reckless action that created a risk of death or great bodily injury. If a doctor is aware of the risk, there might also be an issue of whether the patient knows that risk and decided to take it.

I was thinking about this yesterday.. it's mainly the reason why I don't think Murray can be charged with second degree murder..

This is so messed up :(.
 
Thanks for the article!



I was thinking about this yesterday.. it's mainly the reason why I don't think Murray can be charged with second degree murder..

This is so messed up :(.
so this is the reason why a DOCTOR nearly has every chance to get off when he does a damage to a patient. He is able to claim everything, especially if the patient is DEAD!
 
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