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Grammy's All-Star Tribute to T-25; MJ Reported to Attend/Not Perform

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fanofthethriller said:
I disagree with that because the Grammy Awards are not based on sales. They are judged by a panel of people.
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they are judged by a panel, but you would be naive to think that the commercial and social success isn't influencing the votes. it's pretty blatant there's been an industry bias when it comes to these awards.
 
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I do not agree. There has been succesful artists that have not won grammys. Lets reverse the situtation here.

Look at the people from American Idol. They say this person got so many votes and that person got so many votes but its probably all BS because if that was the case WHY DONT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE HIGH RECORD SALES. I mean if millions of people are voting where is the proof of sales. Most American Idol artists had poor sales and were dropped by their labels. American Idol gets ratings because they make fools out of people on tv. The only one getting success is the show American Idol; not the contestants.
 
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Maybe...MJ is shopping around his very OWN tv special for Thriller that he can make a couple of mill for rather than give the Grammys their ratings with a surprise appearance.

Maybe...it would be better to build up a TV appearance with a couple of weeks worth of promos.

Maybe..that would make Sony alot happier having millions tune in to a 90 min special.

Just putting it out there......
 
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fanofthethriller said:
I was reading another MJ message board and one fan said his uncle works at the Grammy Association and his uncle confirmed that MJ will not be performing at the Grammys and MJ is not scheduled to attend. He said MJ sent an acceptance video.

It makes sense that he is sending an acceptance video because if MJ wanted his fans to be there he would have let the fans know. MJ would not want to be there without his fans. I think an acceptance video is a great idea.
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What?!
Michael's not gonna attend, please tell me this is a joke.
This is bullsh!t.


Hollaback.
 
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BabeBeMine said:
This could make Sony not fully want to promote his new album because they might fear he won't do his part to promote the album.
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I disagree. Michael doesn't need to do promotion for a re-release. I have never seen other artists do concert and performances for a re-release.

If this was a NEW album, I would agree.
 
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JudgingNoone said:
If this is true I have to say I don't see the point of it. He's in the US, he's not touring or performing elsewhere, so why can't he attend? It makes it seem like he's afraid to or something. I don't understand why he won't promote Thriller 25. I would understand it if he didn't like it, but he was involved in the project so that makes no sense. I'm not saying MJ is obligated to attend the Grammys or do anything, but if makes me wonder about how committed he is to this comeback.
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he ignores the US thats why..US took his pride away..US dont deserve him yet!!his first comeback on stage is not going to be in the US for sure!!! after all the **** that US trough to his face he is not going to come out and beck...his fanbase isnt US anymore he will be back on stage from europe with his new album in a super mtv performance...like madonna did with her last album.IF I WAS MICHAEL I WOULD NEVER PERFORM IN THE US AGAIN.
 
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Most of this year's Grammy nominations are a joke.

And this so-called Thriller-tribute is a joke, too.

I cannot understand why MJ allowed these people to mess with his legendary songs.

I cannot stand these "artists" and therefore won't watch the Grammys, including the Thriller tribute.
 
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^^^I feel sad
What's he worrying about? :( :(
 
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:( Slightly off topic--but Grammy related.
A news service, in my area, ran a Grammy story this morning, for about 5 minutes.
It was a "special" look-back on it being the 50th Grammys. They showed several clips---Gladys Knight/etc, of some of the performers----but---NO Michael Jackson.
Then the went on to several highlights----NO Michael Jackson
Lastly, they showed clips of "couples" such as Elton John/??? (sorry, can't remember who was with him) and Simon and Garfunkel---and so on----NO Michael Jackson----no mention that he and Santana are/were the only people to have won 8 Grammys.
What is wrong with them-----surely Michael deserves a mention SOMEWHERE about SOMETHING.
Dawn
 
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MJ'sOzfan said:
:( Slightly off topic--but Grammy related.
A news service, in my area, ran a Grammy story this morning, for about 5 minutes.
It was a "special" look-back on it being the 50th Grammys. They showed several clips---Gladys Knight/etc, of some of the performers----but---NO Michael Jackson.
Then the went on to several highlights----NO Michael Jackson
Lastly, they showed clips of "couples" such as Elton John/??? (sorry, can't remember who was with him) and Simon and Garfunkel---and so on----NO Michael Jackson----no mention that he and Santana are/were the only people to have won 8 Grammys.
What is wrong with them-----surely Michael deserves a mention SOMEWHERE about SOMETHING.
Dawn
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and after this you want michael to go there and perform...no way never!!!!
 
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The Grammy's haven't done anything for Michael for a long, long time and have basically snubbed him. So he isn't at all obligated, nor should he waste a performance on them. What would be the point of showing up? They're just doing some half-assed tribute, like they always do. He's going to be there for 4 hours for that? I don't think so. Sending a video will get Michael the same amount of exposure and give the same message as him showing up in person. It will get the word out about Thriller 25 and let the public get a look at Michael.
 
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ilovemjj4ever said:
^^^I feel sad
What's he worrying about? :( :(
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Just dissapointed if this is true. It would be amazing for MJ to be there in person. I don't even care about a performance...just grace the public with your presence MJ. So many people miss you man.

Remember the magical evening you had at the WMA's??? How awesome to see a repeat of that here. Light up the grammy's because no award show seems to bright without you.
 
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Snubbed him? He hasn't had music out in ages. You need music out in that year to be nominated for Grammy award. Maybe the overlooked Invincible but at least it got a nomination.

No offense but I think this video will look kinda stupid. He hasn't won an award. Why's he doing a an acceptance speech? I think he's going to make the grammies make up another fictional lifetime achievement award for him. And that's just gonna look bad. "And the award for the most mega awesome person in the world goes to....Michael Jackson". It's just going to be silly.
 
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wannabestartinsomthin21 said:
The Grammy's haven't done anything for Michael for a long, long time and have basically snubbed him. So he isn't at all obligated, nor should he waste a performance on them. What would be the point of showing up? They're just doing some half-assed tribute, like they always do. He's going to be there for 4 hours for that? I don't think so. Sending a video will get Michael the same amount of exposure and give the same message as him showing up in person. It will get the word out about Thriller 25 and let the public get a look at Michael.
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I agree. Why should Michael do anything for them when they've basically been cutting him off for years? From what I can see, it was the media who was pushing too different rumors at the same time. One, that he would be performing. Two, that he was scheduled to show up at all. Michael shouldn't even be acknowledging them period for all their attitude. But he's being nice by even sending a video message, if this is to be believed, that is. And I think that is to acknowedge the "Thriller" tribute they're doing. Not an acceptance speech. And who knows what else he's got on his plate that we're not privy to? We really only hear about half the things that go on in this man's life anyway
 
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i dont want to be there at all no video no performance nothing to the grammys.
 
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Bob George said:
Snubbed him? He hasn't had music out in ages. You need music out in that year to be nominated for Grammy award. Maybe the overlooked Invincible but at least it got a nomination.

No offense but I think this video will look kinda stupid. He hasn't won an award. Why's he doing a an acceptance speech? I think he's going to make he grammies make up another fictional lifetime achievement award for him. And that's just gonna look bad. "And the award for the most merga awesome person in the world goes to....Michael Jackson". It's just going to be silly.
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the speech (IF THIS RUMOUR IS TRUE) is props hall of fame related. why are people forgetting? heck, he might just go "buy my thriller 25 tomorrow".. who knows.
P.S. he HAS been snubbed. Grammys 88 he had 5 #1 singles and the second biggest album EVER (at the time, second to Thriller) He SHOULD have cleaned up in 88. He even performed for them. And didnt get any recognition. Not a single trophy.




im sick and tired of everyone bagging him for stuff that has not happened yet. performance is a RUMOUR, attending is a RUMOUR, and VIDEO MESSAGE IS A RUMOR... bloody hell. Wait for the Grammys to go to air before crying and weeping.
 
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Bob George said:
Snubbed him? He hasn't had music out in ages. You need music out in that year to be nominated for Grammy award. Maybe the overlooked Invincible but at least it got a nomination.

No offense but I think this video will look kinda stupid. He hasn't won an award. Why's he doing a an acceptance speech? I think he's going to make the grammies make up another fictional lifetime achievement award for him. And that's just gonna look bad. "And the award for the most mega awesome person in the world goes to....Michael Jackson". It's just going to be silly.
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Well what the heck do you call not actually giving him any Grammy awards for his music since "Thriller"? That means "Bad", "Dangerous", "History" and "Invincible" didn't win ANYTHING related to the music.

And he's going to say thank you for the tribute and induction of "OTW" and "Thriller" into the hall of fame. That's why he's sending a video, which he doesn't have to do. The Grammys hasn't ever made up any award for Michael, so I don't know where you're coming from with that.
 
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damien shields said:
the speech (IF THIS RUMOUR IS TRUE) is props hall of fame related. why are people forgetting? heck, he might just go "buy my thriller 25 tomorrow".. who knows.
P.S. he HAS been snubbed. Grammys 88 he had 5 #1 singles and the second biggest album EVER (at the time, second to Thriller) He SHOULD have cleaned up in 88. He even performed for them. And didnt get any recognition. Not a single trophy.




im sick and tired of everyone bagging him for stuff that has not happened yet. performance is a RUMOUR, attending is a RUMOUR, and VIDEO MESSAGE IS A RUMOR... bloody hell. Wait for the Grammys to go to air before crying and weeping.
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bad was snubbed too much yes and dangerous too...
 
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Bob George said:
Snubbed him? He hasn't had music out in ages. You need music out in that year to be nominated for Grammy award. Maybe the overlooked Invincible but at least it got a nomination.

No offense but I think this video will look kinda stupid. He hasn't won an award. Why's he doing a an acceptance speech? I think he's going to make the grammies make up another fictional lifetime achievement award for him. And that's just gonna look bad. "And the award for the most mega awesome person in the world goes to....Michael Jackson". It's just going to be silly.
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well in my opinion, Michael does NOT MAke The grammy Make up another award. They Make it up them selves, 'cuz he has gotten Every Award there is to get. And if He is still NOT Ready to come out and perform or sing...thats his choice, 'cuz of all he went through, and America is the one who put him through it, and I'm not saying ALL Americans!!!!!!! It didnt really surprize me to find out he might not Be there, What ever his reason is, I SAY "Good for HIM"!!!:D

I LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!
 
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Bob George said:
Snubbed him? He hasn't had music out in ages. You need music out in that year to be nominated for Grammy award. Maybe the overlooked Invincible but at least it got a nomination.

No offense but I think this video will look kinda stupid. He hasn't won an award. Why's he doing a an acceptance speech? I think he's going to make the grammies make up another fictional lifetime achievement award for him. And that's just gonna look bad. "And the award for the most mega awesome person in the world goes to....Michael Jackson". It's just going to be silly.
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Thank you. ;)


damien shields said:
the speech (IF THIS RUMOUR IS TRUE) is props hall of fame related. why are people forgetting? heck, he might just go "buy my thriller 25 tomorrow".. who knows.
P.S. he HAS been snubbed. Grammys 88 he had 5 #1 singles and the second biggest album EVER (at the time, second to Thriller) He SHOULD have cleaned up in 88. He even performed for them. And didnt get any recognition. Not a single trophy.




im sick and tired of everyone bagging him for stuff that has not happened yet. performance is a RUMOUR, attending is a RUMOUR, and VIDEO MESSAGE IS A RUMOR... bloody hell. Wait for the Grammys to go to air before crying and weeping.
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But has a Grammy hall of fame ALBUM ever been announced at a Grammy's ceremony?

I don't see a single reason for him to attend at this stage. Sony has the promotion covered, Michael doesn't need to promote Thriller 25. It's a re-release!
 
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Bad wasn't snubbed. 1987 was a great year for music. So many great albums came out so the 1988 Grammy awards were big. Like it or not there are other artists besides Michael who make great music.
 
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None had the impact of Michael's "Bad", and "Bad" was an example of the highest quality modern music possible. For them not to give it one award is a snubb, plain and simple, as it was for all his albums following.
 
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fanofthethriller said:
I was reading another MJ message board and one fan said his uncle works at the Grammy Association and his uncle confirmed that MJ will not be performing at the Grammys and MJ is not scheduled to attend. He said MJ sent an acceptance video.

It makes sense that he is sending an acceptance video because if MJ wanted his fans to be there he would have let the fans know. MJ would not want to be there without his fans. I think an acceptance video is a great idea.
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we'll see.... but like I said...... he wouldn't attend or perform
 
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Thats annoyed me...Michael seems to be getting rather Lazy and is missing out on GOLDEN oportunities with the grammys...hes not gonna have mass exposure and michael mania (due to tributes) at an awards show again....i think hes a bit of a fool for not going.....i hope he is doing it for a VERY good reason
 
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wannabestartinsomthin21 said:
Michael's never flaked out of promotion, not even with "Invincible".
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I just gotta say that Mike hardly did any promo for Vince at all. I only really remember TRL, TV Guide, Virgin signing. what else?

Proper promotion would be performances on as many award shows as you can get on, perfoming on TV shows, TV interviews, magazine covers, radio appearances. All this is done INTERNATIONALLY. I admit that we have seen some promo from Mike in recent months, but it's still not anywhere near the scale most artists do. Mike isn't even performing at all as far as we know. He can't even be bothered to appear in person for one evening in his own country. I wouldn't blame Sony for being annoyed with the lack of enthusiasm. There's only so much they can do without some artists participation.
Any record company approaced to promote and release the new album would look at the poor promo history and think hard about whether they think he will actively help the sales of the album. Right now I don't think he'll do much at all. To be successful again, Mike MUST promote properly. If it doesn't work and the album is a 'flop' then atleast he tried.
 
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wannabestartinsomthin21 said:
None had the impact of Michael's "Bad", and "Bad" was an example of the highest quality modern music possible. For them not to give it one award is a snubb, plain and simple, as it was for all his albums following.
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The album of the year was Joshua Tree. Bad pales in comparison. Compared to Joshua Tree, Bad sounds so dated. It's virtually unplayable outside of 80s retro clubs and stuff for the most part. Sure, it had some great songs. It had a lot of #1s. But the Grammies, for the most part are awards for musical integrity. Bad doesn't show a whole lot of that, compared to Joshua Tree. But at least Bad won something. Best engineered non-classical album. That something.

Dangerous was overlooked because of Natalie Cole. That ish got praised like it was the be all and end all of music. So I suppose Dangerous was then unfairly overlooked, you could say, because Natalie Cole was just hyped on to the max. And then 1993 saw Eric Clapton's unplugged sessions which were brilliant and were awarded rightly so IMO. However, again Dangerous did win an award for engineering.

At the time of HIStory, unfortunately, his private life drew much credibility away from his music. Also, look at who won. Alanis Morrisette's Jagged Little Pill for album of the year and Seal's Kiss From a Rose for song of the year. That album and that song are still cited today as best albums and songs in pop music history. I love HIStory. But it's not one for the general public, the awards organisations. It's for fans and those who care to listen. It was unfairly overlooked. But not just in this regard. It ever possible was it was overlooked. Which is unfortunate. But I prefer it remains one for the fans. Btw, it did win something. Best short form music video for Scream.

So yeh. There are a lot of reasons why it would seem his music since Thriller has been overlooked. He's had hot competition and unfortunately the Grammy association began to judge him by his personal life rather than his music.
 
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