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MJ was a Sex God -- While Media Pretends Not to Notice

ani_geleia said:
I don't think crotch-grabbing is always a sexual gesture. At least, it's not a cliché sexual gesture. Maybe it's just my opinion, but I don't see Billie Jean performance as sexy or maybe I got used to MJ's crotch-grabbing. Haha NOT. I didn't get used to it. I mean, Black or White's panther sequence or Come Together or Dangerous speak for themselves.

However, on Bad short film it is a challenge to the viewer. He starts 'Your butt is mine' (Who on Earth starts a song like this?!) and then he goes 'Gonna tell you right / Just show your face in broad daylight' and immediately grabs his crotch. To me it is the same as asking 'Are you a man or not?' (Ok, this is sexy. You caught me. :S)

But then like I said before, sexiness is all about confidence and when Michael performs he breathes confidence. :D
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Yep, I agree. The asst. choreographer in TII was talking about it, likening it to one of Baryshnikov's moves. It's just staccato passion and fervor, a display of possession and control, a challenge, a rattle...just an embodiment of what he's getting from the music, a product of his music's provocative rhythms and commanding punctuations.
 
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PrincessMichaela said:
Yep, I agree. The asst. choreographer in TII was talking about it, likening it to one of Baryshnikov's moves. It's just staccato passion and fervor, a display of possession and control, a challenge, a rattle...just an embodiment of what he's getting from the music, a product of his music's provocative rhythms and commanding punctuations.
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Exactly! You describe it perfectly! :agree:


Are you a dancer?
 
Thank ya. Eh, well, I have professional training and have worked with a lot of distinguished people, but I would never classify myself as a "dancer". I'm a singer/actor who dances. =)
 
PrincessMichaela said:
Yep, I agree. The asst. choreographer in TII was talking about it, likening it to one of Baryshnikov's moves. It's just staccato passion and fervor, a display of possession and control, a challenge, a rattle...just an embodiment of what he's getting from the music, a product of his music's provocative rhythms and commanding punctuations.
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Mkayyyy. And what do you suppose this is a display of? :)


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Oh Mike. He's just dripping pure sexiness...Especially when performing - it's just hypnotizing.
 
OK. Here are more articles I found. I don't necessarily agree with them, but since they mention his sexuality, here they are...

http://www.straight.com/article-239943/michael-jackson-what-he-contributed-black-male-sex-appeal
While his talent was undeniable, a less recognized factor that contributed to his appeal was the fact that he presented a fresh new image of black male sex appeal.

http://sarilocker.com/blog/2009/07/01/the-sex-appeal-of-michael-jackson/
The Sex Appeal of Michael Jackson
In several recent articles about Michael Jackson, it has been said that he had no sex appeal;
or he was asexual; or people all thought he was gay; or his fans never found him sexy.
Well, that’s not so. In 1992, I conducted a survey asking people which celebrities they would most want to have sex with.
Michael Jackson was at the top of the list!

Michael Jackson certainly had sex appeal, but only for a limited time. Not in the Jackson Five days,
and not after the child molestation charges. During the years in between he had fans who found him very sexy.
When I conducted my survey, the Dangerous album was red hot, including “Black or White” — one year before the first child sexual molestation charges.
What made MJ sexy? I doubt it was his signature crotch grab or shirtless Herb Ritts photos. Rather it was his dance moves, rhythm, dedication, and creativity.
All very sexy qualities. Surely as his life progressed (and his face morphed, his relationships were presented as more unusual,
and he revealed that he slept in bed with other people’s children) any trace of his sexiness faded. However, as we’ve seen over the past few days,
there are still millions of people who remember – and love – the sexy Michael of years past.


http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2009/10/31/this-is-it-a-movie-review/

Not only does the real life Michael Jackson ooze sex appeal as he sings and dances as well as coaches and mentors everyone i
nvolved in the production of the This Is It Tour, but he was also obviously quite mentally and physically fit at the time of his death.
 
I think the media was made up of jealous men who couldn't stand the total adoration people felt for Michael especially the women
 
Michael a sex god?? Mmmmmmm, oh yes very much so :D

that panther dance *drools* I've never rewinded a piece of footage more *giggles*
 
riviera1992 said:
Mkayyyy. And what do you suppose this is a display of? :)


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Well, first of all, we were talking specifically about "crotch grabbing", but regardless - I'm not saying it wasn't sexual. Of course it was. Hence the thread title :p I'm just saying his sexual moves were due more to a passionate connection to the music (guitar sex, anyone? LoL) than to the "look at me, I'm sexy" display that's popular with many current young performers.
 
It's not just Michael. And it's not just "media against MJ".

I hope you'll understand what I'll say here since my english's not perfect. We live in a world with pre-made concepts about "what is a man" and "what you have to do and be to be a man". I'm hetero, no doubts about my sexuality and who/what I am and still I was hurt many many times by comments about the "kind of man" I am.

This is the world we live in: you break the barriers of those concepts I mentioned, people WILL look differently at you. If you're not a "neanderthal" when it comes to women and you can actually be a MAN while still having sensibility and other things in your essence, most people in our society won't take it easily and will misunderstand you even if you're pretty much clear about who you are.
As I said, I've been hurt many-a-times by comments about my sexuality just because I enjoy serious relationships, I don't think sex is a thing to do with anyone for no reason at all (hey, I'm very open and curious in this aspect, but please: keep it between 2 persons who like each other, not "that girl you met last night"), I consider myself a "sentimental guy" and things like that. Our society has a different picture about what is a "man" (if you can even call that a MAN).

And that's the problem with our guy Michael. He broke the barriers of "what is a man", thus facing the IGNORANCE of our society.
I hope I made sense!
 
You made more sense than anything else I've read today!! And. I. could. not. agree. more. This is why I don't date. It is nearly impossible to find guys who aren't afraid to challenge that. I am so so sorry you've had to deal with that, it drives me up the wall. As a female, I will say that I find nothing sexier than a guy who isn't ruled by his gender, but by his mind, body and heart.

I don't think it's just Michael and I don't think it's the media against Michael. I just think that Michael's case is extreme because it's the one aspect of his performance that he was never given credit for. No matter how hateful they were towards him as a person, they could never deny his talent. So, it seems strange that what may be a key component in some of his performances was completely neglected in reviews and analyses.
 
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billyblues said:
And that's the problem with our guy Michael. He broke the barriers of "what is a man", thus facing the IGNORANCE of our society.
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That's exactly what I think. From the way Michael danced to his voice and to the make up he wore, everything was against "usual" concept of a real man. It's like men aren't free to move their bodies the way the want without having the word 'fag' ringing in their ears. It's a shame really.
 
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Michael said in his speech that after he left Sony the media called him a freak, child molestor and wrote negitive things about his looks and things he did that were in noway true. Sony has control of the media, I read about how they are connected to the media and can control what is said. "They just tell the public what the want them to hear" They are illuminati which controls media and music so Michael was against this so you know they ain't gonna say he is sexy. But they didn't have to say it we all know it.
 
my friend michelle said to me when we saw TII that she couldnt comprehend why she thought he was so sexy, she couldnt put her finger on it because she felt he was an unlikely sex symbol because of how he is portrayed in the media, goes to show you how his natural charm takes over when all the bull crap is ignored.
 
MJ's the sexiest, cutest, prettiest, most adorable, most lovely, kindest, purest man ever lived on this earth and I really miss him so much. :cry:
 
big DB said:
my friend michelle said to me when we saw TII that she couldnt comprehend why she thought he was so sexy, she couldnt put her finger on it because she felt he was an unlikely sex symbol because of how he is portrayed in the media, goes to show you how his natural charm takes over when all the bull crap is ignored.
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One simply can't ignore the seeeeeeexiness!

The dude's a "once in a lifetime" sex-symbol. Honestly, we won't see anyone look like him again.


And funny thing I was thinking of recently. People look at us fans and ask "How do you think Mike is sexy?" But if you simply look at him, it's not that hard to see. I mean, back in the Baroque and Classical music eras, in opera there were the Castrati. If you don't know what a castrati is...go look it up. Wiki should have an answer. But as ABSOLUTELY CRAZY as it was to even create castrati (those poor little boys...), once that desired sound was created for the male, they were looked at as a sex god as well. They were abnormally tall yet they kept their boyish features of being 12 due to losing that key ingredient in their genitalia. But females found them extremely sexy, and males wanted to be them. They were looked at as androgynous. My point is, people thought that was the ultimate of sex appeal. You were looked at as a sex god.

Now, Mike was DEF. no castrato. And i'm not trying to make a weird connection between Mike and castrati, but what I am saying is that people can have strange ideas of what is sexy to them. We look at castrati now as a terrible mutilation process that has no benefit.

Mike was a high tenor, his looks were/are like none other. He does have some female qualities and features, but to me that just makes him that more sexy. He moved his body like none other. All the ingredients are there. You can't hide that.
 
So, they dont notice ha! Good, more for me :evil: *joke*
Main media is affraid to go out of status quo borders, they always have being.
But sexy is sexy no matter what they say or not say and you can read all the coments on YT vids and you can read all the sexy threads in here and in all the other forums around the world... they can't hide the facts!
FACT: THIS MAN IS SEX ON LEGS!
EVIDENCE:
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HELL YEAH!!!!!!! I love your post pg13 haha, those pictures are hot!!!!! The media is just too scared to admit, but we all know the truth :D:D:D

F the media, i feel so lucky, I wasn't blinded by them. I eat good food, and listen to great music, haha, they we never get to me!!

Jackie xxx
 
The media did some articles acknowledging Michael's sexiness during his Bad tour performances you should take a look at this:
http://www.the-michael-jackson-archives.com/baduktour1.html

The first article describes his Bad performances as "erotic" and there are other articles saying the same thing. So, it seems during the Bad era Michael was sexy to the media. I don't remember seeing articles like this before Thriller and maybe not so much after.
 
It took me a long time to read through this thread. But What a great thread this is! Thank you! The title alone made me smile.
 
Bo G said:
May I throw out a few ideas? (These aren't directed at you, Princess Michaela, I think you'd probably agree with most of this).

How to share the love --
Thoughts on how to communicate with people hostile to Michael Jackson

His Face. I think it would help fans wanting to share their enthusiasm with friends if they could openly acknowledge what their friends' biggest obstacle is. Most folks are simply not going to find very credible a critique from someone who denies MJ's facial changes were unfortunate. There's a lot of denial on this site.

Look, I know you all find his face beautiful no matter what, but you need to understand that this alone is what's going to always separate you from the rest of the pack. People are rethinking the pedophilia... but not the face, gang. They're trying to get used to it in the movie, but it's really hard for them. Don't push it.

Acknowledge it. Say up front, yeah, I know about his face. Between the burns, the vitiligo, and botched surgery, what happened to his face is unfortunate. Just remind people that he was widely considered gorgeous during the Bad era, which was after most of the changes. But he became fed up with all the makeup to hide the vitiligo blotching and just depigmented his face. The changes became too prominent then. He should have explained sooner, but was incredibly embarrassed. People relate to this.

But tell them: there's more to a man, a singer, songwriter, and dancer than a pretty face! Explain that his sexiness is in how he MOVES!!!!! And in his singing and lyrics... And did I mention, how he MOVES?!!!!

Tell them there was little coverage of his sexual charisma, of the world tours sold out to millions of screaming, fainting women and men, because the media sold more papers showing MJ with his pet chimp.

About the pedophilia. It's no good to gush that he's a saint, an angel on earth, loves all children, and would never do such a thing... they're going to roll their eyes and stop listening. IF the following is true for you (and it SHOULD be), then say: "I've examined the evidence with an open mind. More information about the parents has come to light. And it looks pretty clear that the poor children's parents were extortionists who manipulated their own children. MJ's insurance company forced a quick settlement against his wishes so as to salvage the expensive tour he was on. And of course he was acquitted of all charges."

Do NOT bash the children involved in the allegations. MANY people have personal connections to abused children or were themselves -- it's friggin' RAMPANT. You MUST show great empathy for this. If you see this is upsetting them, it may be they themselves were abused. DROP IT. Your friends' trauma comes before your love for MJ.

Yes, MJ had a thing about children. Kenny Ortega in a recent interview said that, while on tour with MJ, as soon as they'd arrive at the next airport, MJ would say: Let's go visit the orphanage! And off they'd go! Yes, it's unusual. This was not your normal rockstar.

And leave it at that. Don't overdo it. Don't repeat debunked rumors, like "the boy has since recanted his story." No he hasn't. Don't overstate your case -- you'll look stupid. If you sound calm and objective, people will say, Wow, I didn't know that, I'll have to look into that.
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Tremendous tremendous tremendous post. Really. I mean you just hit the nail on the head with ALL of that...ALL OF IT.

You just wrote the course on how to defend Michael and come away looking like a Rhodes Scholar 101 with that post. I can't say enough how right on you were with every single thing you said there. Wow...

I literally just printed this and will use this when talking about Michael to people who talk about him in a negative way....

Thank you for taking the time out to post this..

You just did Michael a great service in this post you really did...
 
pg13 said:
So, they dont notice ha! Good, more for me :evil: *joke*
Main media is affraid to go out of status quo borders, they always have being.
But sexy is sexy no matter what they say or not say and you can read all the coments on YT vids and you can read all the sexy threads in here and in all the other forums around the world... they can't hide the facts!
FACT: THIS MAN IS SEX ON LEGS!
EVIDENCE:
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I loved Mike's look in this era....Man, he just kept getting sexier IMO
 
I can understand how people WOULDN'T find Mike sexy...I mean, people have all sorts of tastes in what's sexy...I, personally, don't find MACHO men sexy...Not usually anyway...It's true that it's in the way he moves...Period...Among other things of course, his voice, his compassion, his sweet nature, his shrewd way of doing business, his GENIUS...ALL of this is sexy to me....But as far as physically, it's Michael's delicate features that I find sexy as well...There are manly things bout him as well...it's everything!
 
Physically, I think it's his extreme sensuality that makes him so sexy. Everything about this man was just so sensual - his grace, his fluidity, his strength and fragility, every mannerism, he was just sooo connected to his body....:heat:

[Look at his hands, watch them, in candid pictures and videos - they will tell you everything.]
 
PrincessMichaela said:
Physically, I think it's his extreme sensuality that makes him so sexy. Everything about this man was just so sensual - his grace, his fluidity, his strength and fragility, every mannerism, he was just sooo connected to his body....:heat:

[Look at his hands, watch them, in candid pictures and videos - they will tell you everything.]
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