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No songs from Will.I.Am - "I’m not gonna release it"

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Rockin. said:
1. They will be releasing new material regardless. The estate already have plans.

I'd rather it be recent stuff than something from decades ago which MJ put in the bottom of a box and had no intention of releasing, proven by him not releasing it all his life - aka the This Is It single.
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1. FACT

2. i dont know about that, may be if the quality of the sound of the material is polished, i mean This Is It was the FIRST some say only demo, as far as i know, it was rough.... but i prefer Michael's more personal work like She Got It and stuff, that is not officially released. they have that MJ touch. i love those.
 
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MJultimatemusiclegen said:
they don't have a clue what sells
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If they want to do that, they would just overdub Lil' Wayne and the Jonas Brothers over the tracks and call it a day, lol. Like those Frank Sinatra "duets" albums.
 
No great loss really. Six songs isn't much. It speaks volumes about what MJ thought of the work they did together that they only did six songs and never even bothered to finish them.

I've long suspected that MJ didn't like the work he did with will.i.am.
 
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MattyJam said:
No great loss really. Six songs isn't much. It speaks volumes about what MJ thought of the work they did together that they only did six songs and never even bothered to finish them.

I've long suspected that MJ didn't like the work he did with will.i.am.
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Just because you assume something, does'nt make it so.
 
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At time i feel like us fans are left out of the loop with new metrical from Michael but it is what it is ...

Real talk I’m keep it 100% real I don’t blame him for no releasing unfinished music he did with MJ. Second we all know that them vultures who run his estate will be at court fully loaded trying to sue the hell out of Will I Am because of what ever nonsense as of right now its hard to even sample a Michael verse or track cause right along with his Vultures Sony record Label alone think they gave birth to MJ always slicking their noses in other people business with out his family approval. So I guess we just have to wait and see what the future of Mjeezzzzzzzy music mania will be
 
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ExoticPrincess said:
Just because you assume something, does'nt make it so.
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I know. But I still believe it.

In the past when MJ worked with outside producers he worked on ten, fifteen sometimes even twenty songs with them per album. He worked on more than ten songs with Rodney Jerkins for Invincible, he worked on LOADS of songs with Teddy Riley for Dangerous (BOTD, Ghosts and Is It Scary all date back to the Dangerous sessions don't forget).

MJ collaborated with will.i.am in late 2006, was it? They did six tracks and never even finished them. MJ had moved on to working with other producers (Neyo, RedOne, Akon) and nearly three years after they initially worked together there were absolutely no indications that MJ had any intention of resuming the work he did with will.i.am. It doesn't seem to me as if Michael was all that excited by them.

I can't blame him - 95% of what will.i.am produces is complete dross.
 
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Oh, and I remember an interview with will.i.am from 2008 where he said that he kept trying to contact Michael but could never get hold of him.

MJ didn't want to know. Simple as.
 
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MattyJam said:
MJ collaborated with will.i.am in late 2006, was it? They did six tracks and never even finished them. MJ had moved on to working with other producers (Neyo, RedOne, Akon) and nearly three years after they initially worked together there were absolutely no indications that MJ had any intention of resuming the work he did with will.i.am. It doesn't seem to me as if Michael was all that excited by them.

I can't blame him - 95% of what will.i.am produces is complete dross.
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Mike had other issues, like being sued by many people, so recording songs probably wasn't high on the priority list.
 
Ofcourse I would love to hear new songs from Michael. But I totally respect Will.I.Am for this descicion. I mean This Is It shouldn't have been here and those money wolves just went for it.
 
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DuranDuran said:
Mike had other issues, like being sued by many people, so recording songs probably wasn't high on the priority list.
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I have no doubt that he probably wrote, recorded and completed other songs both by himself and with other producers. RedOne has said that they completed a few tracks, we know that he'd recorded songs with Neyo and Akon and I'm sure, as always, that he had some of his own stuff that he was working on.

The facts speak for themselves. MJ started work with will.i.am, they worked on six songs which they never finished and MJ didn't get back to him for three years (all the while writing and recording with others producers).

I reckon Michael suddenly realised that will.i.am was the man responsible for My Humps and wanted to get the hell out of that recording studio and never look back.

We're taking about Michael Jackson here. He doesn't need to be working with people like that anyway.
 
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Sassie said:
Ofcourse I would love to hear new songs from Michael. But I totally respect Will.I.Am for this descicion. I mean This Is It shouldn't have been here and those money wolves just went for it.
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I don't think "money wolves" is the issue. The business has always been about money. They're just giving the people what they want. Nobody forced anyone to see This Is It. People could have chosen not to watch it like Tito and the movie would have flopped. If nobody bought "new" Tupac albums or books about Elvis, the companies wouldn't have continue to release them. If The Beatles didn't still sell after breaking up 40 years ago, nobody would have bothered to spend 5 years and lots of money to remaster their albums. The record companies aren't doing that for Samantha Fox records, lol.
 
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I respect will's decision but in the beginning right after Michael passed will had mentioned he worked with Michael on some tracks and that he would release only with the family's permission,now he says its never gonna be released. Then why mention it in the first place at all, why get all our hopes up. Its bad enough we lost Michael,our idol,hero,our angel but the fact that we will never get to hear anything new from him in the future, new ideas, creations, his magic kills me. And just knowing his final work will never get heard really crushes me. its hurts and saddens me so much that the only thing we have to look forward to is the unfinshed work. I just want Michael back: (
 
I never understood why Michael wanted to work with B-artists like will-i-am, fergie or akon.
It would've destroyed Michael's future carreer.
Look at how they screwed up Thriller 25!
 
akon is the worst, that man is musically dead. I hope i don't get shot for saying this, but i hated hold my hand, just sounded like an average akon song, and if that were actually to be released as the first single from MJ's album like akon said, well the whole thing would have been a disastor. They needed better than that, i have the most faith in what MJ wrote entirely on his own
 
I dont understand that either of Michael and will. i . am and akon and reone and i dont know who else....i guess companies wanted Michael to do what today are hit records you know, they are trash, the hit records of today are TRASH, Michael felt the pressure of beeing number one, so they might have tell him to be with the people who was number one on that particualr time, mainstream music today SUCKS
I think Michael was not excited AT ALL with will. i .am or akon or redOne and all these people.

look Lady Gaga is successful now, is a joke!, and some say that Micahel liked lady gaga, well I DONT BUY THAT.....

how can i a man as creative as Michael Jackson be happy, when he released Invincible, music critics ears were not exercised, so their first reaction to the unknown was " border="0" alt="" /> OVERPRODUCED reminds me of the wonderful Biopic of W.A.Mozart, AMADEUS, Mozart did a concert, he thought cause it was fantastic a phenomenal concert, then when searching for approval, an idiot comes in and says "too many notes" the parallels are immense...
 
Exactly. I think Michael tried to work with these people but ultimately realised they were all flash-in-the-pan trashy producers and that by releasing medicore will.i.am produced music he would tarnish his near-perfect back catalogue.

Akon said in an interview recently that MJ told him that the reason he was so hesitant to release new music is because he has a legacy to think about it. Some of the fans in this thread are acting as if they are taking offense that MJ may have ditched working with will.i.am because he felt the songs weren't up to scratch. What these people fail to realise is it's exactly this kind of mindset of Michael's which set him apart from other popstars, this is what made him so great. He didn't just release music for the sake of releasing it. He thought about the bigger picture. And I believe that ultimately he knew deep down that no will.i.am or Akon produced crap could hold a candle to the genius of songs like Billie Jean, Who Is It, Morphine, DSTYGE, Smooth Criminal etc.
 
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Alec said:
They first met in 2006 and recorded most of their collaborations at that time. Further recording sessions took place in LV in 2007.
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Right on then. There must be some finished songs, and in my opinion, it NEEDS to be released. I mean, we haven't got anything new in ages.
 
If Will-I-Am would just sent me MJ's material I can make those songs into big hits!

I just put a random beat on it and throw in an auto-tune.
Number 1 guaranteed, 'cause that's how they make music these days.
 
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MattyJam said:
Exactly. I think Michael tried to work with these people but ultimately realised they were all flash-in-the-pan trashy producers and that by releasing medicore will.i.am produced music he would tarnish his near-perfect back catalogue.

Akon said in an interview recently that MJ told him that the reason he was so hesitant to release new music is because he has a legacy to think about it. Some of the fans in this thread are acting as if they are taking offense that MJ may have ditched working with will.i.am because he felt the songs weren't up to scratch. What these people fail to realise is it's exactly this kind of mindset of Michael's which set him apart from other popstars, this is what made him so great. He didn't just release music for the sake of releasing it. He thought about the bigger picture. And I believe that ultimately he knew deep down that no will.i.am or Akon produced crap could hold a candle to the genius of songs like Billie Jean, Who Is It, Morphine, DSTYGE, Smooth Criminal etc.
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Thank you , God bless you.
 
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MattyJam said:
Exactly. I think Michael tried to work with these people but ultimately realised they were all flash-in-the-pan trashy producers and that by releasing medicore will.i.am produced music he would tarnish his near-perfect back catalogue.

Akon said in an interview recently that MJ told him that the reason he was so hesitant to release new music is because he has a legacy to think about it. Some of the fans in this thread are acting as if they are taking offense that MJ may have ditched working with will.i.am because he felt the songs weren't up to scratch. What these people fail to realise is it's exactly this kind of mindset of Michael's which set him apart from other popstars, this is what made him so great. He didn't just release music for the sake of releasing it. He thought about the bigger picture. And I believe that ultimately he knew deep down that no will.i.am or Akon produced crap could hold a candle to the genius of songs like Billie Jean, Who Is It, Morphine, DSTYGE, Smooth Criminal etc.
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That's very true, thanks for posting.
 
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MattyJam said:
No great loss really. Six songs isn't much. It speaks volumes about what MJ thought of the work they did together that they only did six songs and never even bothered to finish them.

I've long suspected that MJ didn't like the work he did with will.i.am.
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That's Just laughable and Far from the truth.

Let me Just clear one thing.

If MJ didn't like a song offered by any producer, he would say hell NO, I don't want this track , its not for me, It happened may times where Producers offered him many songs and he turned them down , For example , pharrell Williams offered him many tracks and he turned them all down , he turned down a song offered by prince back in the 80's and many other producers , the point is that Mj is capable to say no to any song offered to him....Mj wouldn't record a song if he didn't like it , period.

And MJ is very selective, Im sure that those six songs he did with will.Iam were picked from dozens of songs offered to him, he just chose six from what Will.I.am offered.

and did Mj even had the chance to finish anything? he didn't have the chance....:no: he passed away.

Mj records dozens of songs for each album and store them in the vault, then he revisits them at some point to work on them again, he have always worked that way , he took the demos of Earth song, they don't care about us which were recorded for Dangerous and worked on them again to be released on History.

The bottom line: MJ recorded songs offered by will.I.am because he LIKED them ,and Im sure he would have finish them if he was alive.
 
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AhSeeingVoicesMs said:
For example , pharrell Williams offered him many tracks and he turned them all down , he turned down a song offered by prince back in the 80's and many other producers , the point is that Mj is capable to say no to any song offered to him....Mj wouldn't record a song if he didn't like it , period.
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I though MJ never even heard those songs, they were turned down by his then manager and whenever he and Pharrell would meet they would laugh that the songs became huge hits for Justin.

I just wanted to say that the PYT remix by Will was the ONLY redone song on the thriller album that was any good. The others were so bogus and WBSS with Akon was an assassination of the original with a second gunman on the grassy knoll. I wanted more MJ and none of the others that were on there.

I say that to say that something good can come from WIll and MJ.

Thank you!
 
Would have wanted to hear those song.. anything by Michael is worth to be listen to... Everything Michael did musically is a precious treasure that should be shared. Just give the money to charities if you don't want to be pointing at like a cashing in one...
 
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MattyJam said:
Exactly. I think Michael tried to work with these people but ultimately realised they were all flash-in-the-pan trashy producers and that by releasing medicore will.i.am produced music he would tarnish his near-perfect back catalogue.

Akon said in an interview recently that MJ told him that the reason he was so hesitant to release new music is because he has a legacy to think about it. Some of the fans in this thread are acting as if they are taking offense that MJ may have ditched working with will.i.am because he felt the songs weren't up to scratch. What these people fail to realise is it's exactly this kind of mindset of Michael's which set him apart from other popstars, this is what made him so great. He didn't just release music for the sake of releasing it. He thought about the bigger picture. And I believe that ultimately he knew deep down that no will.i.am or Akon produced crap could hold a candle to the genius of songs like Billie Jean, Who Is It, Morphine, DSTYGE, Smooth Criminal etc.
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If this is true, why does Mike seek out the "producer of the month" in the 1st place? Why did he use Darkchild? He's trying to fit in. He could get unknown producers with different sounds than what everybody else is using or do it himself. You don't hear Prince going out and making a record with Timbaland, will.i.am, or Akon. He doesn't care about making songs to get on the radio or having hits. Michael is capable of making his own album, but never did it. The closest thing to that were a couple of albums by the brothers: Destiny and Triumph. That's why these albums still sound fresh, and many of the songs on his later solo albums sound dated.
 
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DuranDuran said:
If this is true, why does Mike seek out the "producer of the month" in the 1st place? Why did he use Darkchild? He's trying to fit in. He could get unknown producers with different sounds than what everybody else is using or do it himself. You don't hear Prince going out and making a record with Timbaland, will.i.am, or Akon. He doesn't care about making songs to get on the radio or having hits. Michael is capable of making his own album, but never did it. The closest thing to that were a couple of albums by the brothers: Destiny and Triumph. That's why these albums still sound fresh, and many of the songs on his later solo albums sound dated.
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obviously, that's subjective. not everybody thinks MJ's later stuff sounds dated. i mean, everybody comes to listen to what MJ has next, whether they argue that his last stuff sounds dated, or unfinished, or whatever. there's gotta be something to that. that doesn't happen as much with other artists, whose sound diminished over the years. so there's gotta be something to that.

and MJ always said that he listens to everybody, but HE makes the final decision. so, just because he might have traveled around to other people, doesn't necessarily mean he's trying to fit in. too much about MJ was about not 'fitting in', for one thing to suddenly be about 'fitting in'.

i think it's easy for people to mistake mj listening to a lot of people, for automatically being someone who lets other people make decisions for him.

a lot of soft voice people make their own decisions, while a lot of loud voice people let others decide for them...and vice versa. so, there's no clear cut proof of a formula for who makes their own decisions, and who doesn't.
 
Think about it this way:

If it was Will-I-Am who died instead of Michael...

Michael would probably never release those songs himself!!!!.....

I would think that Will-I-Am is trying to do what he thinks right and what Michael would do!!!!
 
MattyJam said:
Exactly. I think Michael tried to work with these people but ultimately realised they were all flash-in-the-pan trashy producers and that by releasing medicore will.i.am produced music he would tarnish his near-perfect back catalogue.

Akon said in an interview recently that MJ told him that the reason he was so hesitant to release new music is because he has a legacy to think about it. Some of the fans in this thread are acting as if they are taking offense that MJ may have ditched working with will.i.am because he felt the songs weren't up to scratch. What these people fail to realise is it's exactly this kind of mindset of Michael's which set him apart from other popstars, this is what made him so great. He didn't just release music for the sake of releasing it. He thought about the bigger picture. And I believe that ultimately he knew deep down that no will.i.am or Akon produced crap could hold a candle to the genius of songs like Billie Jean, Who Is It, Morphine, DSTYGE, Smooth Criminal etc.
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So true. Glad you mentioned Who is it and morphine, my favourites =p
 
I think will.i.am's new version of "the girl is mine" was really good (thriller 25), i think they would of made really good music for the standard of music thats around at the moment! Especially redone...his a hot producer at the moment, i recon him and mj would of made great stuff togethor!
 
I don't think these songs should be released either, but who are we kidding? When depression hits Will.I.Am, he'll be the first to sell those songs. The Black Eyed Peas are huge and rich now, but let's see what happens 7 years down the road.
 
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