Coroners Report released - GRAPHIC CONTENT (Threads merged)

That last thing you posted is interesting - about Michael asking other doctors to go along the tour and Murray being the only one who agreed. Where is this information taken from? Can you provide a source?

Dr.Adams was mentioned in the search warrant Murray claimed he was present when he gave MJ propofol in March , Justthefacts posted an article another thread , in which Adams said Murray and MJ went to his office at the beginning of March , did not say what exactly the conversation was about , but did say Murray lied and he did not give MJ propofol in March , he only was asked to sedate him on four occasions in 2008 when he was going through dental operations and everything is documented . That was an anesthesiologist .

Lee was asked by MJ at Easter weekend to help him find an anesthesiologist , Foxnews in the article days after autopsy where they said the coroner was very shocked at MJ's good shape , stated that one of his patient which was named told them she was aware of Murray trying to get a fellow doctor to join MJ's medical team and that one refused due to family issues .

Murray practiced in Vegas and Houston , only at the end of 2008 he moved to LA with his girlfriend , so he was part of the whole propofol thing since the very beginning . Adams along with the doctor from Houston are indeed Murray's worst nightmare , and he was afraid of Lee , he believed she was told by MJ he was the one telling him it was safe , that's why he tried to taint her with his statements that she gave it to MJ also .

The last time I heard that EXACTLY that statement (also without any mentioning on the source of that information) was on VH1 "famous crime scene" that threw together a couple of thoughts, with a lot of Ian Halperin (!) showing up, "explaining" the "facts".

I think it was Halperin on that show saying that Murray was the fourth who was asked...:scratch:
Also Oxman was on the show...you get which circle of people was speaking there.

well, I have been saying that since Justthefacts posted the article for the first time , that was months ago , and since the search warrant was released along with fox news article .

It is very damaging to Murray , probably the most damaging witnesses are those doctors .

as for Halperin and Oxman , add to them Randy please . I have the same , the exact same feelings for the three of them .
 
For those interested here are the pictures from the Lupus event - it was Oct. 1, 2003 in Beverly Hills, CA

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=2550222

Sure a lil more research would find the transcript.

some more info that's confirming his lupus.

June 16th, 1995 author Randy Taraborrelli says Jackson told him he now has discoid lupus, a nonfatal form of the disease, which requires him to take a medication called hydroxychloroquine. And, according to Jackson, the drug causes vitiligo loss of pigmentation.

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On July 8, 2009, Michael Jackson’s dermatologist of 25 years, Dr. Arnold Klein, appeared on Larry King Live.

DR. ARNIE KLEIN, MICHAEL JACKSON’S DERMATOLOGIST: I met Michael because someone had brought him into my office. And they walked into the room with Michael. And I looked one — took one look at him and I said you have lupus erythematosus. Now, this was a long word.

KING: Lupus?

KLEIN: Lupus, yes. I mean, because he had red — a butterfly rash and he also had severe crusting you could see on the anterior portion of his scalp.
He says, well, how do you know this?

I said, because it’s the natural course of lupus. So I then did a biopsy.

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Lupus expert Dan Wallace

Dear Colleagues:

I can confirm that Michael Jackson had vitiligo and discoid (chronic cutaneous lupus) and never had systemic disease that played any role in his passing.

Thanks
Dan Wallace MD
Clinical Professor of Medicine
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center/David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
 
Thank you Momma Shannon and Ivy..for all your research..:)...I already knew Michael had Lupus...poor Michael..:(
 
some more info that's confirming his lupus.

June 16th, 1995 author Randy Taraborrelli says Jackson told him he now has discoid lupus, a nonfatal form of the disease, which requires him to take a medication called hydroxychloroquine. And, according to Jackson, the drug causes vitiligo loss of pigmentation.

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On July 8, 2009, Michael Jackson’s dermatologist of 25 years, Dr. Arnold Klein, appeared on Larry King Live.

DR. ARNIE KLEIN, MICHAEL JACKSON’S DERMATOLOGIST: I met Michael because someone had brought him into my office. And they walked into the room with Michael. And I looked one — took one look at him and I said you have lupus erythematosus. Now, this was a long word.

KING: Lupus?

KLEIN: Lupus, yes. I mean, because he had red — a butterfly rash and he also had severe crusting you could see on the anterior portion of his scalp.
He says, well, how do you know this?

I said, because it’s the natural course of lupus. So I then did a biopsy.

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Lupus expert Dan Wallace

Dear Colleagues:

I can confirm that Michael Jackson had vitiligo and discoid (chronic cutaneous lupus) and never had systemic disease that played any role in his passing.

Thanks
Dan Wallace MD
Clinical Professor of Medicine
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center/David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA


Thank you very much for this. I agreed above with Elusive that he probably had DICOID LUPUS and not systemic lupus. There is a big difference. This was great information!!!!
 
Uhm, I don't think Randy Taraborelli had spoken to Michael since the 1970s. If you look at his books, in the back, the sources are 90% the National Enquirer. Whatever. Carry on.

Michael had discoid lupus, confirmed for the 80s. Some cases of discoid lupus advance to the systemic type. We don't know if his had done that, or not, but when the autopsy report said, "adverse health effects" regarding the condition of his lungs, that could have been the effects of systemic lupus?
 
There is no specific test for Lupus. There are even doctors within the medical community who doubt its true existence. It is highly debatable as a disease.

There is no specific test for the vast majority of rheumatological conditions (of which lupus is one) as the diagnoses are made on a combination of the clinical history, clinical features, blood test results and sometimes, imaging results.

Can you please provide evidence of lupus being 'highly debatable as a disease'? In almost 10 yrs of practicing I have never once heard, read or been taught that there are any doubts as to its existence. A remark like that is misleading and it belittles the physical & psychological suffering of thousands of patients including MJ who have the condition.
 
There is no specific test for the vast majority of rheumatological conditions (of which lupus is one) as the diagnoses are made on a combination of the clinical history, clinical features, blood test results and sometimes, imaging results.

Can you please provide evidence of lupus being 'highly debatable as a disease'? In almost 10 yrs of practicing I have never once heard, read or been taught that there are any doubts as to its existence. A remark like that is misleading and it belittles the physical & psychological suffering of thousands of patients including MJ who have the condition.

Is It Lupus? - Lupus: Not A Simple Disease

http://arthritis.about.com/od/lupus/ss/doihavelupus.htm

I never belittled anyone. It is the type of disease that comes and goes and sometimes someone can have one flare up and never have another. There are different types. Discoid does not involve other organs (systemic). You can go to one doctor who says "No" it isn't Lupus and another who says it is. This happens all the time because it is symptom diagnosed and there is no definitive test. It isn't always definitive and I have posted links showing that before. I am not here to put anyone down who has it.

This is the autopsy thread and this is all coming up over and over because Dangerous Incorporated feels it was missing from the autopsy and should have been mentioned. I don't keep bringing it up.

If Michael did indeed have systemic Lupus one would have thought he would have told Murray since it could have a real impact on giving Propofol or the other sedatives. My best judgment on this is that he probably had Discoid Lupus because there are documented and known times that Michael had issues with his lungs in his life; such as the time he had pleurisy, which can happen due to infection or any number of reasons. In any case, the autopsy didn't state Lupus anywhere and I didn't ever see Michael coming forth himself and stating it anywhere either.

If people here choose to believe he had systemic Lupus, thats fine and they are entitled to believe whatever they choose but until someone can prove it to me by showing me his medical records, I will use my own best judgment from experience and believe he may have had Discoid Lupus. This is my personal opinion. You are entitled to your own as well.
 
Is It Lupus? - Lupus: Not A Simple Disease

http://arthritis.about.com/od/lupus/ss/doihavelupus.htm

I never belittled anyone. It is the type of disease that comes and goes and sometimes someone can have one flare up and never have another. There are different types. Discoid does not involve other organs (systemic). You can go to one doctor who says "No" it isn't Lupus and another who says it is. This happens all the time because it is symptom diagnosed and there is no definitive test. It isn't always definitive and I have posted links showing that before. I am not here to put anyone down who has it.

This is the autopsy thread and this is all coming up over and over because Dangerous Incorporated feels it was missing from the autopsy and should have been mentioned. I don't keep bringing it up.

If Michael did indeed have systemic Lupus one would have thought he would have told Murray since it could have a real impact on giving Propofol or the other sedatives. My best judgment on this is that he probably had Discoid Lupus because there are documented and known times that Michael had issues with his lungs in his life; such as the time he had pleurisy, which can happen due to infection or any number of reasons. In any case, the autopsy didn't state Lupus anywhere and I didn't ever see Michael coming forth himself and stating it anywhere either.

If people here choose to believe he had systemic Lupus, thats fine and they are entitled to believe whatever they choose but until someone can prove it to me by showing me his medical records, I will use my own best judgment from experience and believe he may have had Discoid Lupus. This is my personal opinion. You are entitled to your own as well.

You are asking someone to show you Michael's medical records? Uhm, I don't think that's going to be possible ?

Thanks for helping refine our thinking here, though. As far as its being mentioned in the autopsy report, my sense is that such a report lists findings about the body, determines cause of death, but doesn't list causes of other physical findings? Such as other illnesses that may have been present, the cause of scars, and so on?

Quite a few fans have known about Michael's discoid lupus, since the eighties. I've never heard it officially said that he had systemic lupus. What I'm wondering, though, is that when the autopsy report said, about the condition of Michael's lungs, that there would be "adverse health effects," could that be from systemic lupus that had affected his lungs? I don't think that we know if Michael did or did not tell Murray about various medical problems that he might have had? The other thing is, as Michael's personal physician, one would think that Murray would seen Michael's medical records? Wouldn't that be standard practice in that instance? Not sure, but it seems logical?
 
Regarding the medical records. When you go to a new doctor you can tell them your medical history and they write it down. If you tell them your allergies they write it down. If you don't tell them your history, they don't know it. Therefore, you can go to any doctor or several doctors at once and one does not necessarily know what you were treated for at another physicians office.

If the doctor gets your permission to obtain your medical records for the purpose of treatment, then the records get forwarded to the new doctor. They have to specifically ask for these records and Michael would have specifically had to give permission (a medical release) in writing for them to do so.

What I said was: If people here choose to believe he had systemic Lupus, thats fine and they are entitled to believe whatever they choose but until someone can prove it to me by showing me his medical records, I will use my own best judgment from experience and believe he may have had Discoid Lupus. This is my personal opinion. You are entitled to your own as well.

I am not asking for Michaels medical records. It is none of my business and I don't feel the need to invade his privacy. My point is that it IS private and unless you are privy to that information you won't know.

In the autopsy if he had a definitive illness it would have been mentioned, and there were several things mentioned that were physical in nature and could be seen, such as the enlarged prostate.
 
As we have said multiple times keep the conspiracy talk out of here. There is a seperate forum if you want to discuss whether the autopsy report is a hoax. Do not discuss this in here.
 
Thank you DI for the video..you always find the best things..:).....But I just dont think that belongs in this thread...this is a Coroners report thread...If you remember we did some very important work in this thread at one time..I think this video belongs in the hoax thread...IMHO....This is such a hard thread to come back to..:(
 
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as sloride said -

as far as the case forum and this thread goes - this is the official autopsy report and we discuss its findings here.

if you have issues about inconsistencies, question the validity or believe it might be a hoax (check the video titles) - all that discussion should be done in the conspiracy section.

also please do not post already deleted stuff as they will be deleted again.
 
I took time to read the Report it was quite graphic but there was a positive aspect out of all of this... Michael did have Vitiligo. Do not get me wrong one of my close friends suffers from it so I know how harrowing it can be. I have never doubted that Michael had it anyway!!!Stacy Brown and Bob Jones claimed in their book that Michael bleached his skin because he hated Black People. These People need to apologise to Micheal's Children or we his Fans should form a Consortium and sue them and donate the proceeds to the Vitiligo Society. It is so hurtful.

Back to the Coroners Report. He was in otherwise good health and quite fit until that quack injected him. I do not know what surprised them about his hair. Ignorance!!!!! I am Black, if I pass to day there is an awful lot of hair on my head that is not mine attached to my scalp as well.. numpties!!!!

I am grateful for reading it but it shows the amonut of abuse this mman went through, his Autopsy, his death Certificate all on the Internet for the Vultures to see. IO feel so sad.


Hi :flowers:

Could you please explain how the wig and attaching it to the scalp work? Did Michael's hair had to be cut short for this or is his hair being short has nothing to do with it?

Thanks and sorry for my complete ignorance in this :blush:
 
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The last time I heard that EXACTLY that statement (also without any mentioning on the source of that information) was on VH1 "famous crime scene" that threw together a couple of thoughts, with a lot of Ian Halperin (!) showing up, "explaining" the "facts".

I think it was Halperin on that show saying that Murray was the fourth who was asked...:scratch:
Also Oxman was on the show...you get which circle of people was speaking there.

I see, thanks

It would be interesting to know the truth regarding this. I wonder if it would be revealed in the trial.
 
Maybe this was discussed earlier but I would really appreciate it if someone could explain the following:

Does the fact Propofol was found in the urine and in the urine that was found at the scene corroborate that Michael had taken propofol before that night (not that it was disputed but I want to be sure).

Also Lorazepam wasn't found in the urine at all. What does this mean? It was only found in the heart blood and the femoral blood. Can it tell us something about when it was given?

Didn't Murray say that he gave Michael lorazepam in pills and only injected him with it later on in the night? and if this was true wasn't the lorazeam pills supposed to have shown up in his urine since they had time to metabolize?
 
Hi :flowers:

Could you please explain how the wig and attaching it to the scalp work? Did Michael's hair had to be cut short for this or is his hair being short has nothing to do with it?

Thanks and sorry for my complete ignorance in this :blush:

To apply the wig, hair length does not matter. Although if you have longer hair, you usually braid it underneath or your wig will not lay on your head properly.

You can attach the wig a few ways. You can glue it on (using a semiperminant glue so that it stays on for extended periods without you having to do a retouch. Or you can use a glue that has to be applied every day- which is very annoying).

Or you can also sew it in the hair which is what I do sometimes. I don't think this is the method MJ used.
 
Maybe this was discussed earlier but I would really appreciate it if someone could explain the following:

Does the fact Propofol was found in the urine and in the urine that was found at the scene corroborate that Michael had taken propofol before that night (not that it was disputed but I want to be sure).

Also Lorazepam wasn't found in the urine at all. What does this mean? It was only found in the heart blood and the femoral blood. Can it tell us something about when it was given?

Didn't Murray say that he gave Michael lorazepam in pills and only injected him with it later on in the night? and if this was true wasn't the lorazeam pills supposed to have shown up in his urine since they had time to metabolize?


I'm not really sure, so don't take this as gospel, I'm just trying to help, but after reading a couple of threads about the case and such, some have said that the fact that the Lorazepam was detected in one place and not others, could incline that it was given close to or after Michael's death, as it didn't get the time to pass through the body before it shut down.
 
Maybe this was discussed earlier but I would really appreciate it if someone could explain the following:

Does the fact Propofol was found in the urine and in the urine that was found at the scene corroborate that Michael had taken propofol before that night (not that it was disputed but I want to be sure).

Also Lorazepam wasn't found in the urine at all. What does this mean? It was only found in the heart blood and the femoral blood. Can it tell us something about when it was given?

Didn't Murray say that he gave Michael lorazepam in pills and only injected him with it later on in the night? and if this was true wasn't the lorazeam pills supposed to have shown up in his urine since they had time to metabolize?

Don't know if this was discussed earlier either because I've reached page 30 of this thread, and painfully read the entire autopsy report :( However, I'll try to be clear with this explanation.

From reading the tox summary on page 50 in the report,

the internal urine sample concentration = 0.15ug/g
the urine (scene) sample concentration =
 
To apply the wig, hair length does not matter. Although if you have longer hair, you usually braid it underneath or your wig will not lay on your head properly.

You can attach the wig a few ways. You can glue it on (using a semiperminant glue so that it stays on for extended periods without you having to do a retouch. Or you can use a glue that has to be applied every day- which is very annoying).

Or you can also sew it in the hair which is what I do sometimes. I don't think this is the method MJ used.

Thanks for explaining :flowers:

That wig looked so real I was sure it was his hair.
 
I'm not really sure, so don't take this as gospel, I'm just trying to help, but after reading a couple of threads about the case and such, some have said that the fact that the Lorazepam was detected in one place and not others, could incline that it was given close to or after Michael's death, as it didn't get the time to pass through the body before it shut down.

Don't know if this was discussed earlier either because I've reached page 30 of this thread, and painfully read the entire autopsy report :( However, I'll try to be clear with this explanation.

From reading the tox summary on page 50 in the report,

the internal urine sample concentration = 0.15ug/g
the urine (scene) sample concentration =
 
the Lorazepam can we tell how close to Michael's death it was given?
yeah i believe it can, cause of the concentration. ppl have said that based on that murrays claims of only giving it to mj at around 5am is a lie. its thought hes gave it to mj not long b4 he went
 
thanks :flowers:

So it means Michael was given propofol more than once during that night? Once with midalozam and later the dose that killed him? and regarding the Lorazepam can we tell how close to Michael's death it was given?

I'm sorry if what I'm asking is stupid I have no medical knowledge at all and I'm trying to understand.

One of my former biology profs told me on the first day of class that in all his classes there is no such thing as a stupid question. The same applies here in this forum and especially in serious threads as this one.

You've have asked an important question. Yes, there were two doses: the propofol-Midazolam and propofol-loz. The second dose is what killed him.
 
Not trying to be a stickler, but I can for sure catagorically state MJ didn't wear a weave in the last years of his life. He had to wear a wig. the straight hair is a wig. And, that is what the autopsy reflects as well.

A wig and a weave are different. It was not an extension of his hair, but his hair was completely covered. that is why he could have his natural textured (the autopsy says it was short and tightly curled) hair underneath and have straight hair on the outside.
 
Michael Jackson's Autopsy Report.

Though I don't agree with all of it.. it may have some useful information in regards to the different drugs..?

http://femmenoir.net/2010/02/16/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-autopsy-report/

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I held off all notions on what killed Michael Jackson until I was able to see his full autopsy report. The media speculations were all over the place involving Demerol, opiates, needle marks all over his body, name it and I saw it. Around the time of Michael’s death I offered up my own possibilities as it relates to lupus and the initial reports of MJ’s cardiac arrest.

After my diagnosis with lupus nephritis in 2005, I became interested in MJ because I was familiar with some of the reported illnesses he experienced and strangely enough, some of them mirrored my own. Prior to my diagnosis I had heard MJ had lupus in the late 80s, perhaps early 90s after the Pepsi commercial accident but, like many, I had no idea there were different classifications for lupus, i.e., discoid, drug induced and systemic lupus. At that time, all I knew was lupus was lupus and like many I had no clue lupus could adversely affect your body, cause you great harm or cause death from complications.

I do not have vitiligo, however, and I too was guilty of “making fun” of something I knew nothing about. Basically, I was in that category of fools who knew not what they spoke. Karma can be an awful thing.

Now that I’ve been diagnosed with lupus I now understand all too well what MJ went though. I can look back at my life and see all of the health problems I had were all due to a case of undiagnosed lupus. I can also relate to the ridicule he experienced because, when you’re a star at something and you fail, drop out, or give up because your body can’t handle it anymore, people will criticize you, poke fun, ridicule you, etc., because they can and they don’t understand.

Many did not believe he had vitiligo but he did. When news of a lung condition surfaced with reports of him possibly needing a lung transplant, no one believed the stories. Unfortunately, he did have a serious lung condition. When pictures surfaced some years ago of MJ in a wheel chair, people laughed and believed he was putting on a show. Truth is, though minimal, he had degenerative spondylosis (degenerative osteoarthritis) of the lower thoracic spine, degenerative osteoarthritis of lower lumbar spine facet joints, distal interphalangeal joints of the right index and long fingers, and distal interphalangeal joint of left little finger. Basically, he had some arthritis in his back and a couple of fingers which might have been quite uncomfortable and painful.

Lupus And Men

Unfortunately, much of the information on lupus relates to women. Very little is offered on how lupus affects men. Though lupus affects every individual differently and men may experience some of the same symptoms as women, there are differences. Just as there are differences in how men and women experience heart attacks, the same is true of other diseases as well. The following comes from everydayhealth.com:
Men with lupus face a unique set of challenges, including the following:
• Studies suggest that men may develop more severe lupus symptoms and have a slightly worse prognosis than women.
• Men may have an increased frequency of nervous system problems associated with lupus that may cause seizures. [Remember this one.]
• Men may have more lung problems associated with lupus. [Remember this one.]
• Men with lupus are more likely to have problems with their kidneys. [The jury is still out on this one.]
• Men may get more severe forms of lupus-related skin rashes.
• Men may get more blood clots and have a greater tendency to develop anemia, a condition where your blood is deficient in oxygen-carrying red blood cells.
• Because there are so few men with lupus, only a limited number of exclusively male support groups are available.
That said, what I looked for in MJ’s autopsy report were other conditions. I was primarily interested in conditions that might be associated with lupus. I also wanted to know – besides propofol – what drugs was he taking and what he took for pain.
I did not find the smoking gun Demerol or Oxycontin. It appears the drugs found in his system were drugs Dr. Murray brought in to help MJ sleep, put him under, or counteract said drugs should the good doctor find himself in deep pooh. Contrary to what I heard originally, Prednisone was prescribed for two days only – 60 mgs one day and 40 the next – on April 25, 2009. MJ was not on Prednisone at the time of his death.

My drug list is down to one drug, prednisone. If you were to walk into my house you will find the bottle of prednisone, you will also find blood pressure meds that I am no longer taking, diuretics I take every now and then but you will not know I’m on chemo. You won’t find Cytoxan in my house. If MJ was doing IV Cytoxan or any form of chemo, it was not found in the house.
Which brings me to the many rumors that MJ had cancer and was receiving chemo at some undisclosed location? That’s possible but it is not in the coroner’s report. There are some things in the report that would lead you to believe he either had cancer, was precancerous or he had benign masses. The coroner’s report, however, is not meant to diagnose a condition which means we will never know unless someone tells and under HIPAA, they should not tell.

Physical


Okay so let’s start with what everyone loves talking about, the wig and tattoos. The coroner’s examination at the hospital states “[t]he decedent’s head hair is sparse and is connected to a wig. The decedent’s overall skin has patches of light and dark pigmented areas.” The coroner also notes “There was a dark black discoloration on the decedent’s upper forehead near his hair line. Dark coloration was present on the decedent’s eyebrows, eyelashes and lips.” What this basically tells me is MJ wore either a front-laced wig or full-laced wig with a tattoo line to create a false hairline. He also may have used dark tattooing to give the impression of full eyebrows, eyeliner and a lip line. Further in the autopsy report is mention of a coloration that may have been added to his lips so they would appear pink or red.

No shocker there. I knew MJ wore wigs, I liked them, but I did not know what kind of wig he wore. I noticed the tattoos as well, particularly the hair line tattoo. At the time I thought the tattoo was designed to make him appear to have a hair line because of the vitiligo. Initially, I didn’t understand how he was wearing the wigs but now, having purchased a few lace front wigs myself, I get it.

Again, speaking from personal experience, I too have experienced loss of eyelashes and eyebrows. In fact, the first indication I was having problems – prior to my diagnosis with lupus – was I started losing my eyelashes, eyebrows and my hair was falling out. I started using eyebrow pencils like nobody’s business after that because I went from heavy eyebrows to barely having eyebrows. I’ve given up on the eyelashes and forgedabout eyeliner.

Pharmaceuticals


Starting with the synopsis, apparently MJ complained of dehydration and an inability to sleep. MJ also had no history of heart problems. I’m curious about the dehydration. What caused that?
According to the “Witness Statement”, MJ called Dr. Murray complaining of dehydration and his inability to sleep at 1:00 a.m. Murray arrived at MJ’s home and administered unknown care. Later that day, an ambulance was called and MJ was taken to the hospital where he “presented asystolic to the hospital.” Asystolic means he had no heartbeat or cardiac arrest. The witness stated MJ “was taking several prescription medications including clonazepam, trazodone, diazepam, lorazepam and Flomax but it is unknown if he was compliant.”

Interesting, clonazepam is typically used to control certain types of seizures in the treatment of epilepsy and for the treatment of panic disorders. Did MJ have seizures – as noted in the description above for lupus and men – or was this drug prescribed as a relaxant?
Trazodone is an antidepressant medication and can also be used for relief of anxiety disorders (e.g., sleeplessness, tension) and chronic pain. I expected to see other drugs used for pain, not trazodone.

Diazepam is used for the management of anxiety disorders or for the short-term relief of symptoms of anxiety. Diazepam may also be used to relieve agitation, shakiness, and hallucinations during alcohol withdrawal and relieve certain types of muscle spasms. It may also be used to treat seizures, insomnia, and other conditions as determined by a doctor. Again, did MJ have seizures or was this drug prescribed to relax him.

Lorazepam is typically used to treat anxiety or anxiety associated with symptoms of depression.
Probably the most interesting of the aforementioned drugs was Flomax. Further in the autopsy report, in a section entitled “Genital System”, it says:
The prostate is moderately enlarged, with a prominent intravesical middle (median) lobe. The prostatic parenchyma is nodular. Both testes are in the scrotum and are unremarkable and without trauma.
Flomax is typically used to improve urination in men with benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlarged prostate). Flomax also relaxes veins and arteries so that blood can more easily pass through them. It also relaxes the muscles in the prostate and bladder neck, making it easier to urinate. I now understand why Flomax. Also noted in the autopsy report was the description of his bladder as “distended and trabeculated.” I don’t know if this was as a result of death or relates to why he was taking Flomax, which again, relaxes the muscles in the prostate and bladder neck, making urination easier.

Dr. Murray (cardiologist), Dr. Metzger of Cedars (Rheumatologist) and Dr. Klein (dermatologist) were mentioned in the autopsy report as prescribing drugs to MJ. The aforementioned drugs and more were found in his home.

Two lotions found in MJ’s home were Benoquin Cream, indicated for final depigmentation in extensive Vitiligo and Hydroquinone, a topical agent/lotion used to lighten areas of darkened skin such as freckles, age spots, chloasma, and melasma. These lotions were apparently used to even out MJ’s skin tone due to the vitiligo. No prescribing doctor was listed for these drugs but I’ll assume they came by way of Dr. Klein, MJ’s dermatologist. The autopsy report does state his “skin has patches of light and dark pigmented areas.”

Another lotion found in the home was Lidocane which is a common local anesthetic and antiarrhythmic drug – suppresses fast rhythms of the heart. Interesting. Dr. Murray prescribed this lotion for MJ. I wonder why.

Clonazepam and trazodone were prescribed by Dr. Metzger. Diazepam, lorazepam, flomax, and temazepam – used to treat insomnia – were all prescribed by Dr. Murray.

Another drug, prescribed by MJ’s dermatologist of all people, was Tizanidine, a skeletal muscle relaxant typically used to relieve the spasms and increased muscle tone caused by multiple sclerosis (MS, a disease in which the nerves do not function properly and patients may experience weakness, numbness, loss of muscle coordination and problems with vision, speech, and bladder control), stroke, or brain or spinal injury. This drug can make you drowsy, cause dizziness if you get up too fast and will decrease muscle tone.

MJ had an accident many years ago where he fell off a stage. This is probably why he ended up with osteoarthritis in his back and why this drug was prescribed. I just found it interesting a dermatologist prescribed the drug.

Again, Dr. Klein also prescribed Zanaflex (a short-acting medication offering relief from muscle spasticity), and Prednisone which prevents the release of substances in the body that cause inflammation. The prednisone was prescribed in 10mg tablets with the instructions “6 tab now, 4 tomorrow.” It appears he was only prescribed 10 tablets on 4/25/09.

There were two antibiotics prescribed by Dwight James/Cherilyn Lee, Amoxicillin and Azithromycin. For one, the patient’s name was “blocked out on the label.” The other was prescribed to Kathlyn Hursey. I’m going to go out on a limb on this one and assume, like many will do, he liked having antibiotics around just in case.

Other drugs that show no prescribing doctor were Flumazenil (a drug used to reverse the effects of benzodiazepines in conscious sedation, general anesthesia, and the management of suspected benzodiazepine overdose, exactly what MJ experienced). Midazolam was another drug with “no prescription directions and no patient or doctor names”. This drug is used to produce sleepiness or drowsiness and to relieve anxiety before surgery or certain procedures. Midazolam is also given to produce amnesia (loss of memory) so that the patient will not remember any discomfort or undesirable effects that may occur after a surgery or procedure. Midazolam has been associated with respiratory depression and respiratory arrest, especially when used for sedation in noncritical care settings.

Was MJ a drug addict? Well, I didn’t see any smoking gun drugs here that would say he was a drug addict. From what I can tell from the drugs found in his home, much of it was not taken as prescribed or were seldom taken. For instance, one of the drugs prescribed by Dr. Metzger, Trazodone, was issued on 4/18/09. He was issued 60 pills at 50mg to be taken 2 at bedtime as needed. At the time of his death he had 38 pills remaining which means he only took the pills 11 days. He certainly wasn’t sucking those pills up like an addict.

Tizanidine, the muscle relaxant prescribed by Dr. Klien, was issued on 6/7/2009. The instructions given for that drug was to take one-half tablet at bedtime. He was issued 10 pills and at the time of his death 8 remained. During the month of June, MJ only took 2 pills which if taken as prescribed; he took 4 pills over the course of 4 days sometime between June 7th and June 25th. He wasn’t sucking those up either.

As for the drugs with “no prescription directions and no patient or doctor names”, we don’t know. These drugs appear to be part of Dr. Murray’s “sleep therapy” experiment.
I know nothing about drug addiction so I can offer nothing on whether MJ was a drug addict or not. It does appear he had too many medications in the house that when combined could cause death. In terms of being a drug addict, I can’t see any one drug as a favorite.

Looks to me like MJ had a problem calming down. Having finally watched the film “This Is It”, I was able to see MJ in action from the perspective of others. I can see why he might have had a problem calming down and it had nothing to do with prednisone. It appears there was always something going on in his head. I also believe he really wanted to do the concert. Additionally, at no time during that rehearsal footage did I see a “zonked out” Michael Jackson. He probably went home after rehearsals with a brain full of new things to do, new dance steps, new visuals, etc. He just could not calm down.

As an aside, many doctors have tried to knock me out for out-patient procedures. To their dismay, I’ve never gone out. Some people’s bodies or constitution just resist medications and I’m one such person. As a result, I always end up watching the blood and gore. I won’t feel a thing but I do end up seeing everything. Muscle relaxants do nothing for me, I fight against those too. Dentists hate to see me coming because nothing they throw at me works. I just grin – no pun – and bear it. One doctor hit me with so much stuff one time I felt as if I weighed 1000 tons and was nauseous but I did not go under. I wonder if MJ had the same problem.
I won’t say it’s my greatest fear but I do think about it often. If one day I should need surgery and should I encounter a doctor who doesn’t understand I’m one of the hard ones to put under, will he throw the kitchen sink at me? Will I survive it? I might not survive an impatient anesthesiologist.

So, bottom line, propofol, lorazepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diazepam and nordiazepam, were identified in blood samples. Propofol, midazolam, lidocaine and ephedrine were identified in his urine. Propofol and lidocaine were identified in his liver tissue. Propofol was identified in vitreous humor (his eyes). Finally, Lidocaine and propofol were identified in the contents of his stomach.
With the above-mentioned drugs, though they all have a particular purpose, any of them can be used for other reasons as well. It always depends on the doctor.

Troublesome Findings?


There were rumors that MJ needed a lung transplant or had some sort of rare lung disease. He truly had a lung ailment. According to the findings in one of the reports, MJ’s left lung weighed 1060 grams and the right lung weighed 940 grams. Further in the report the following opinion was given.
The above findings reflect a depletion of structural and functional reserves of the lung. Reserve depletion is the result of widespread respiratory bronchiolitis and chronic lung inflammation in association with fibrocollagenous scars and organizing/recanalizing thromboemboli of small arteries. It should be noted that the above lung injury with reserve loss is not considered to be a direct or contributing cause of death. However, such an individual would be especially susceptible to adverse health effects.
No rumor there, he did in fact have a lung problem. Is it possible the aforementioned lung ailment was a result of lupus? Going back to the above section “Lupus and Men”, Men may have more lung problems associated with lupus. Was this possibly lupus?

MJ’s right kidney (the larger one) had a “0.2 cm off-white well circumscribed medullary mass.” The report does not say whether this mass was benign or malignant. Second, they found a “1.5 cm well circumscribed off-white lobulated mass located in the periaortic region just medial to the left adrenal gland.” Again, no mention if this mass was benign or malignant. As noted earlier, his prostate was moderately enlarged, “with a prominent intravesical middle (median) lobe.”
I will also admit here that a guy 136 lbs who is 69 inches tall (5’9”) is pretty thin.

My Conclusions


Yeah, my conclusions are just enough to be dangerous. MJ was just too thin. I know he was a thin man all of his life but gee whiz, that’s thin but, big but, it had nothing to do with his death. There were no opiates in his system so the whole drug addict deal doesn’t wash. It appears MJ was shopping docs for sleep aid as he apparently was too hyper.

He did have a medical condition. Dr. Klein admits he diagnosed MJ with lupus years ago and he did have one very famous lupus doctor/Rheumatologist in Dr. Metzger. For sure, as seen in the autopsy report, MJ did in fact have vitiligo.

Of course, an autopsy is in search of cause of death. An autopsy report typically will not diagnose underlying conditions unless they are blatantly obvious. The report did point out a few disturbing findings but we will never know if MJ had cancer or was precancerous.

What I did see in this autopsy report is MJ was not a healthy man. Forget the drugs, he had a spinal injury, arthritis, arterial atherosclerosis of both legs, a whopper of a lung ailment, off-white masses, and OMG my eyes glazed over at what could possibly become big problems for him sooner or later.

After all of the talk last year of Demerol and other drugs or opiates, I did not see one listed as being in his system and they certainly were not listed in the report of drugs found in the home. Did somebody grab ‘em? Who knows.

So, MJ talked about his vitiligo and no one believed him. He talked about his lung disorder and no one believed him. Quincy Jones’ interview/article was unbelievable as well but then again, old men can be quite foolish. Did MJ have seizures? We may never know. MJ certainly had a lung problem, was it a result of lupus? We may never know. When you find most don’t believe you when you’re telling the truth, you may just stop talking.

As troublesome as it was to read, MJ’s autopsy is doing a lot of talking. Bottom line, with all he suffered in his life, he still performed at peak. All of us lazy buggers out here complaining about getting out of bed on a cold day, we need to get over ourselves. Obviously we can’t cut the mustard and we have a lot more to work with.

I will miss MJ but I still have his music. Stranger In Moscow will always be my favorite song and Rock With You is No. 2 on my list. I will cherish those songs and more forever. Though I wish MJ could have lived to the great old age of ???, considering the body drama MJ might have suffered had he lived, I believe in some odd way he was blessed. Though many wanted to believe the very worse about MJ he must have had some sort of angelic life. After watching the film This Is It, I am more inclined to believe that. To have passed away knowing he was still at the top of his game and he could still sell out arenas, that’s a big deal.

He went to sleep with his head comfortably resting on a cloud and yes indeed, everything happens for a reason. Karma is interesting and perhaps, this was my mission.
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7 Comments → “Michael Jackson’s Autopsy Report”


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    Karma

    1 month ago


    Very insightful and beautifully written. Any clue why “flumazenil” wasn’t listed on Michael’s autopsy report?
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    TreatMe

    1 month ago


    Thank you for writing such a poignant piece. I agree with Karma – it is insightful and beautifully written. It’s hard to not be selfish and want him back, but when I read the autopsy report I thought that as much as Michael wanted to do the shows it was time to go. It’s hard to be 50 with a young spirit and an old body. RIP Michael! We love you!
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    marie

    1 month ago


    i have to agree with karma and treat me that is a beautiful written peice
    which explained a lot
    i just wish he had a bit longer with us
    thankyou xx
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     DonnaL

    4 weeks ago


    I thank you for the beautiful piece you wrote . I only hope Michael is truly at peace for all the emotional pain he always had to endure. It still upsets me to read and hear how he is still being persecuted. Have always believed in him and will always be grateful for his music and all the good he has given to this world. I believe his “This is It” tour was going to be his farewell to touring, and that he was trying to live a different kind of life that being with his children of which he was the best Dad. We can only hope that the truth comes out of what really caused his death.
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    Bridgett Bridge

    3 weeks ago


    Interesting, clonazepam is typically used to control certain types of seizures in the treatment of epilepsy and for the treatment of panic disorders. Did MJ have seizures – as noted in the description above for lupus and men – or was this drug prescribed as a relaxant
    if you read the { THE MAGIC AND THE MADDNESS} it say when mj was doing the live HBO show and end up in the hospital , if was fron panic disorders he told LMP that suffer from it,
    but when MJ complain about something been wrong with him no one pays him much attention, so he just don’t say anything . but i will always say this MICHEAL JACKSON is a truth HEROES WITH that much going on and he keep going , all the back staber should leave him alone because he was ten times the man they will every be, he was a strong man , some people will like to bring him down as a drug addict but untill they provide the evidence to back up such a claim , I am going to say BS , he was not , they lie on him too many times .
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    saskia

    3 weeks ago


    Hi
    I saw he was taken a drug hat si ussually for narcolepsy patients as the autopsy also mentions( a neuro illness that makes you fall asleep just like that) I am a narcolepsy patient and the problems michael talked about falling asleep, I have them too~!!! Even though I am tired I am also hyper and cannot seem to get a good night sleep.
    I remember that during the trial some people wrote about michael looking like if he was falling asleep, maybe he had it too……and yes it can come from having lupus.
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    scott downie

    2 weeks ago


    the reason micheal jackson died is jumping off the page here.the flomax usage and its underlying problems of racing heart,inability to sleep whilst taking flomax.he then reached the plateau of all the sleep inducing drugs and eventually was able to get anathethic injections used before operations.sometimes you need to just put up with pain and discomfort of enlarged prostate but as micheal could get any drug he wished that was his downfall.sometimes the easiest and simplest explanation of a death is correct but as its not sensationalist the media wont explain it like this.
 
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