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[Alma]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Well, I'm not gonna return to restate what I said, because I see the 'desperate' part is getting repeated again and emphasized, and I've explained it. That is just the thing: he trusted his doctor. There was nobody else willing to do that for him, so he found this incompetent, which he hoped he wasn't, because he knew him for a few years and he treated his children's colds at one point. So, he felt he could trust him to do the right thing for him too. He slept in the room while the doctor was hired to monitor him all of the time. Michael couldn't know all that there is needed in medical terms, there were those oxygen tanks, and he trusted his doctor with his life, and he didn't know anything and even left the room.

I made that long, defensive post in regards to propofol/Michael to cover all points, not just yours. One should only be within someone's mind to fully understand everything. He said about touring that it'll kill him if he does it again, because he couldn't by any means sleep due to the many pressures and worries. It did.

But he was killed, for he was a liability to this world and the industry, but that's not the proper thread for such discussion. Murray left the room when he was supposed to monitor Michael, as well as tried to cover and hide everything before calling 911. Somehow, June 25 was meant to be to the misfortune of many. What the human mind cannot grasp by any means is either the good or the evil, and it's easy to tell what powers worked that day. Murray will most likely walk away free, because people are helping him with their comments in the media already and the system is far too corrupted. The 1993 situation, the 2005, all were shakedowns. June 25 was too.

And this thread shouldn't be about propofol. Mater of fact, to me, personally, it's run its course.

 

[LindavG]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Well, I'm not gonna return to restate what I said, because I see the 'desperate' part is getting repeated again and emphasized, and I've explained it. That is just the thing: he trusted his doctor. There was nobody else willing to do that for him, so he found this incompetent, which he hoped he wasn't, because he knew him for a few years and he treated his children's colds at one point. So, he felt he could trust him to do the right thing for him too. He slept in the room while the doctor was hired to monitor him. Michael couldn't know all that there is needed in medical terms, there were those oxygen tanks, and he trusted his doctor with his life.

I made that long, defensive post in regards to propofol/Michael to cover all points, not just yours. One should only be within someone's mind to fully understand everything. He said about touring that it'll kill him if he does it again, because he couldn't by any means sleep due to the many pressures and worries. It did.

But he was killed, for he was a liability to this world and the industry, but that's not the proper thread for such discussion. Murray left the room when he was supposed to monitor Michael, as well as tried to cover and hide everything before calling 911. Somehow, June 25 was meant to be to the misfortune of many. What the human mind cannot grasp by any means is either the good or the evil, and it's easy to tell what powers worked that day.

And this thread shouldn't be about propofol. Mater of fact, to me, personally, it's run its course.

Never mind my question, I was more thinking out loud I guess. It's just that... I understand all the reasons you mentioned and stuff but still, Propofol is so extreme, I cannot imagine ever taking such a drug, I would be terrified. But yeah, he put his trust in the wrong person... story of his life

Anyway, sorry for going off topic.

 

[ginvid]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

No offense, but I think reporting people for saying they think MJ was addicted to drugs is going a bit too far, that sounds like censure to me. Some people may choose to believe the family's statements over Michael or the autopsy report, which is their - admittedly foolish - decision, but we can't force everybody to have the same opinion. I think it would be better if we let the people who believe he was addicted explain their position and then hopefully we can have a fruitful and respectful debate about this. We must not forget that we are all FANS of Michael Jackson, we all love this man otherwise we wouldn't be a part of this Community.
Personally, I don't think Michael was addicted to prescription drugs at the time of his death, mainly because of Elusive Moonwalker's comments about the bottles found in his home, which did not show any excessive use of medication considering the date they were bought and the amount of pills that were still in them. Apparently, this is written in the autopsy report but I have to admit that I've only read the autopsy report once and this was a long time ago, and I had trouble understanding certain parts since I don't know anything about medicine at all. Therefore, I will just assume that her statements on this are correct. But still, I agree with Ingelief that it is very disproportionate to use Propofol in order to get to sleep and I can't understand how Michael agreed to this. Yes, I know he suffered from insomnia and he must have been desperate, but still...

I'm sorry. But it is not going too far. We have an autopsy thread for anyone who wants to talk about MJ's death or what was in his body at the time of his death. We have an autopsy thread that dissects the report. Therefore, unless something else scientific comes out that contradicts that, there is no need for discussion. That is the rule of the board. End of.

Thanks.

Just a warning, any posts calling MJ a drug addict will be promptly deleted. I'm warning you ahead of time so you won't be offended if your post disappears.

 

[smoothlugar]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

LindavG: Apart from the comments you're mentioning (that you can check in the AR), there are the toxicology results, sthg even more CONCLUSIVE.

 

[Naturelle]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Ok I honestly was NOT going to comment but I just cannot take the B.S. anymore.

I am not an admirer of Michael's who thinks that he was flawless, I know he had his flaws LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES! However, the misgivings and anger towards certain things that certain members of the Jackson family have been propegating, i.e. like the "addiction" problem he supposedly had, etc. holds zero water for myself and others like me. Why? Well let's see...

- Everytime a member of the family has come out, like Janet and like Katherine, they have said that he was addicted, they also say that they never saw him take anything, and so on. They made an assumption.

- Most importantly the autopsy report DOES NOT IN ANY WAY SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE CLAIMING! PERIOD! I HAVE READ THE ENTIRE REPORT and I have relatives who are in the medical field who have confirmed that if Michael was abusing the drugs he was supposedly doing so for the length of time that has been alledged, there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT THE AUTOPSY REPORT WOULD HAVE LISTED his state as being in fine shape for his age, NONE WHATSOEVER! HIS ENTERNAL ORGANS WOULD HAVE BEEN F*@KED UP BIG TIME!

-The Jacksons have given statements and comments on Michael that contradict the "drug addict" claim and other such statements. Katherine is A FINE EXAMPLE of this. Her comments on the subject matter during the DATELINE interview completely contradict what she said in the Oprah interview. The Truth NEVER changes!

- And if all these people, Jackson family members and none members (like LMP) who have come out and said that they BELIEVED he had a problem with drugs etc., even that body gaurd who claimed Michael was taking an OBSURD amount of Xanex or whatever during the trial, then WHY THE HELL DIDNT ANYONE, JUST ONE PERSON EVER SAY THEY SAW HIM TAKE SOMETHING?! NOT ONE PERSON WHO HAS MADE THESE CLAIMS, and there have been MANY, has said they ever SAW him take this stuff. Not one! Wow Michael must have been the world's best drug addict to be able to hide what he was doing FROM EVERYONE!!!!

- Then you have LMP, who even after being told by a medical physician that Michael was not on drugs after testing him for drugs, STILL believed that he was taking something when he was hospitalized at the end of '95. Medical evidence CANNOT LIE!

- Did Janet or anyone else ever consider that maybe the reason Michael was "acting strange" was that he wasn't getting enough sleep? Insomnia is bitch! I have it majorly! Sleep depervation makes people act differently, trust me I KNOW! Also, NO ONE, NOT EVEN JANET can even begin to understand the stress, BS, lies, etc. that he lived with on his shoulders EVERY DAMN DAY OF HIS LIFE! No one can. Not even her experience during "nipplegate" can compare to it. Did they ever once consider that maybe this affected his well being so much that he couldn't get a good nights rest? I know I sure as hell couldn't if I had to deal with that kind of trash!

- Did anyone in this family consider that maybe Michael didn't want to have much contact with them towards the later years of his life because they wouldn't leave him alone about getting "the group" back together, that they themselves only treated him as a commodity? Janet herself said, back before 6/25/09 that they were "working" on him to get back with family to perform. Funny, if I had a brother who required multiple interventions because of his "addictions" I sure as hell would not be trying to get him go on tour! SCREW THAT! I'd be trying to get him back into rehab! STAT! I know if my family treated me like a good amount of the Jackson's treated Michael, I wouldn't want anything to do with them either. Oh but Michael had to be addicted because why else would he not want to be around that loving family? **end sarcasm** **rolls eyes** Also it's funny how all these Jackson family members have come out saying they believed he had a problem, and yet for most (Janet included) they hadn't seen/been in constant contact/etc. with him in years. Janet herself even stated as much. Yeah sounds like a tight knit family who all know the inner workings of their brother...yep sounds just like it. **rolls eyes again**

- Also, Michael would not have been able to be the type of father he was, to have raised his kids to be who they have become if he was the drug addict others are making him out to be! I have known people who have been addicted, grown up around it...THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUNCTION THE WAY HE DID!

- Yes! Michael had an addiction with pain killers back in '93. HE ADMITTED TO IT! And he got help for it. Period! End of story!

- And here's a thought did any of these people ever think, did Katherine even consider, that maybe when Michael said he wasn't taking anything, that oh I don't know, HE WASN'T TAKING ANYTHING! THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM?? Did that thought ever enter their minds? Not, oh well he's obviously in denial, all addicts are, since he didn't own up to what we are only ASSUMING. I have a feeling that whatever "interventions" happened, that they were trying to intervene in order to get Michael on board for their tour, to get him back with the brothers.

It's also not an issue of "Oh well, you just don't want to think of him as being an Addict, you don't want to face the truth, blah blah blah." Honestly, if Michael did have an ongoing and extensive issue with drug addiction, my opinion of him WOULD NOT CHANGE! This isn't about that for me. It's about WHAT THE FLIPPIN' TRUTH IS!

I swear to God that the last several days have been an emotional train wreck for me and I cannot even begin to say everything I have wanted to say. But I will add that I HAVE HAD IT! I will take Michael's word and MEDICAL FACT over hearsay by people who have only "heard" things and have made assumptions to fit what they want to believe.

I HAVE TRUTH ON MY SIDE, OF WHICH I HAVE BASED MY LOGICAL AND REASONABLE OPINIONS ON, AND I CAN LIVE WITH THAT!

i feel your pain too ...:better:

 

[kristinaz]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I just one final comment to make on my own behalf and that is honestly I don't feel like making assumptions at this point obviously I am not well informed when it comes to drugs or anything like that. What I have learned about drug use and long term effects I have learned from the wonderful members here who have informed all of those like me who are clueless on the subject. It has given me a clearer understanding not only of the case but of the autopsy. Now in terms of an addiction or what not I feel it is not my business yet to comment on such things atleast not until the case is well on it's way and we have more information. I have not been a fan long enough to judge there are more of you on here who have followed Michael much closer and would know way more then me on his past. Besides that I want to say on his image while it is obvious Michael had issues with his looks I guess in a sense it isn't any of our business and it was i don't want to say nice but interesting to hear from his mother that he had more then 2 like he had always claimed, i always felt like I was going crazy when he would say 2 cause it just never seemed like only 2. But regardless I don't care I never have I will always love his music what he did for the world. I'll always admire him and have lots of respect for him. None of these things the drugs or image or allegations nothing matters to me and honestly I'm not angry at Mrs. Jackson for her admissions ya maybe it was too much at parts but it wasn't as horrible as I imagined it would have been. So basically that's it from me, that's all I'm going to say (well least for a while) on this issue.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Ok I honestly was NOT going to comment but I just cannot take the B.S. anymore.

I am not an admirer of Michael's who thinks that he was flawless, I know he had his flaws LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES! However, the misgivings and anger towards certain things that certain members of the Jackson family have been propegating, i.e. like the "addiction" problem he supposedly had, etc. holds zero water for myself and others like me. Why? Well let's see...

- Everytime a member of the family has come out, like Janet and like Katherine, they have said that he was addicted, they also say that they never saw him take anything, and so on. They made an assumption.

- Most importantly the autopsy report DOES NOT IN ANY WAY SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE CLAIMING! PERIOD! I HAVE READ THE ENTIRE REPORT and I have relatives who are in the medical field who have confirmed that if Michael was abusing the drugs he was supposedly doing so for the length of time that has been alledged, there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT THE AUTOPSY REPORT WOULD HAVE LISTED his state as being in fine shape for his age, NONE WHATSOEVER! HIS ENTERNAL ORGANS WOULD HAVE BEEN F*@KED UP BIG TIME!

-The Jacksons have given statements and comments on Michael that contradict the "drug addict" claim and other such statements. Katherine is A FINE EXAMPLE of this. Her comments on the subject matter during the DATELINE interview completely contradict what she said in the Oprah interview. The Truth NEVER changes!

- And if all these people, Jackson family members and none members (like LMP) who have come out and said that they BELIEVED he had a problem with drugs etc., even that body gaurd who claimed Michael was taking an OBSURD amount of Xanex or whatever during the trial, then WHY THE HELL DIDNT ANYONE, JUST ONE PERSON EVER SAY THEY SAW HIM TAKE SOMETHING?! NOT ONE PERSON WHO HAS MADE THESE CLAIMS, and there have been MANY, has said they ever SAW him take this stuff. Not one! Wow Michael must have been the world's best drug addict to be able to hide what he was doing FROM EVERYONE!!!!

- Then you have LMP, who even after being told by a medical physician that Michael was not on drugs after testing him for drugs, STILL believed that he was taking something when he was hospitalized at the end of '95. Medical evidence CANNOT LIE!

- Did Janet or anyone else ever consider that maybe the reason Michael was "acting strange" was that he wasn't getting enough sleep? Insomnia is bitch! I have it majorly! Sleep depervation makes people act differently, trust me I KNOW! Also, NO ONE, NOT EVEN JANET can even begin to understand the stress, BS, lies, etc. that he lived with on his shoulders EVERY DAMN DAY OF HIS LIFE! No one can. Not even her experience during "nipplegate" can compare to it. Did they ever once consider that maybe this affected his well being so much that he couldn't get a good nights rest? I know I sure as hell couldn't if I had to deal with that kind of trash!

- Did anyone in this family consider that maybe Michael didn't want to have much contact with them towards the later years of his life because they wouldn't leave him alone about getting "the group" back together, that they themselves only treated him as a commodity? Janet herself said, back before 6/25/09 that they were "working" on him to get back with family to perform. Funny, if I had a brother who required multiple interventions because of his "addictions" I sure as hell would not be trying to get him go on tour! SCREW THAT! I'd be trying to get him back into rehab! STAT! I know if my family treated me like a good amount of the Jackson's treated Michael, I wouldn't want anything to do with them either. Oh but Michael had to be addicted because why else would he not want to be around that loving family? **end sarcasm** **rolls eyes** Also it's funny how all these Jackson family members have come out saying they believed he had a problem, and yet for most (Janet included) they hadn't seen/been in constant contact/etc. with him in years. Janet herself even stated as much. Yeah sounds like a tight knit family who all know the inner workings of their brother...yep sounds just like it. **rolls eyes again**

- Also, Michael would not have been able to be the type of father he was, to have raised his kids to be who they have become if he was the drug addict others are making him out to be! I have known people who have been addicted, grown up around it...THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUNCTION THE WAY HE DID!

- Yes! Michael had an addiction with pain killers back in '93. HE ADMITTED TO IT! And he got help for it. Period! End of story!

- And here's a thought did any of these people ever think, did Katherine even consider, that maybe when Michael said he wasn't taking anything, that oh I don't know, HE WASN'T TAKING ANYTHING! THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM?? Did that thought ever enter their minds? Not, oh well he's obviously in denial, all addicts are, since he didn't own up to what we are only ASSUMING. I have a feeling that whatever "interventions" happened, that they were trying to intervene in order to get Michael on board for their tour, to get him back with the brothers.

It's also not an issue of "Oh well, you just don't want to think of him as being an Addict, you don't want to face the truth, blah blah blah." Honestly, if Michael did have an ongoing and extensive issue with drug addiction, my opinion of him WOULD NOT CHANGE! This isn't about that for me. It's about WHAT THE FLIPPIN' TRUTH IS!

I swear to God that the last several days have been an emotional train wreck for me and I cannot even begin to say everything I have wanted to say. But I will add that I HAVE HAD IT! I will take Michael's word and MEDICAL FACT over hearsay by people who have only "heard" things and have made assumptions to fit what they want to believe.

I HAVE TRUTH ON MY SIDE, OF WHICH I HAVE BASED MY LOGICAL AND REASONABLE OPINIONS ON, AND I CAN LIVE WITH THAT!

EXCELLENT POST. There is nothing more I can say.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

One good thing from the interview:my new sig

I love the siggy. Thank you so much.

Oops, sorry for double posting.

 

[Naturelle]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

the siggy is GREAT!!!!

 

[MJStorm]

The jacksons do something very simple.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." ~ Joseph Goebbels

 

[Ohood]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

The part where he supposedly said "My own mother doesn't even believe me" was so heartbreaking to me

she did not believe him when he said that he is not an addict , but she believed whoerver told her that this answer is a kind of denail !

i beive what Teddy said about MJ health condition n his last interview...this guy tells the truth.

 

[ginvid]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

As promised, this thread has been cleaned. If you want to discuss propofol, we have an autopsy thread that discusses it in depth. It will not ne discussed here.

I don't think people realize how sensitive of a subject this still is for many fans.
Also, we will categorically believe an autopsy report over any claims of the family members as it stands now. Therefore any post about this will be deleted as well.

Thank you. These are the rules of the board.

Please continue discussing the interview.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Its post like this that just makes you go :bugeyed!

Whatever issue Michael was or was not going through should not be put out in the public media like that for people to gloat about! and believe me they are gloating, anything to drive the stake in even harder. Where was all this talk when Michael was alive? I bet you none of you Janet fans would like it if Katherine or other family members put Janets business out in public like that! but for some unknown reason its okay to do it to Michael.

Why the heck does Michael Jackson not deserve the basic of respect like everyone else!?!?

Thank you for making sense! :clapping:

 

[angelofhope]

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I never thought I would see the day when Michael's own Mother would let him down. So upset over all this. Truly gutted and dreading jan and the circus beginning with only us and MJ3 on Michael's side.

 

[ilmjj]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I never thought I would see the day when Michael's own Mother would let him down. So upset over all this. Truly gutted and dreading jan and the circus beginning with only us and MJ3 on Michael's side.

I agree:angel:
We are all exhausted by this drama. And to think Michael lived this every day:bugeyed

 

[Strange Blues]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I've got so many issues with the Oprah interview that it would just take too long to list them all, but the one that stood out the most was this: Oprah's questioning style was so full of her own opinions about things that it looked more like she was trying to pass her own opinions on Michael as those of Michael's mother, and it looks like she's succeeded. Katherine gave an okay answer about the propofol thing, which leads me to believe that she may have been taught how to answer that question, but for the most part Katherine was just eating up everything Oprah offered to her.

It didn't even look like the record was set straight on anything, as the whole interview revolved around three topics we've all heard a million times before: plastic surgery, the 2003-2005 trial and drugs. It wasn't all a terrible fiasco though, since it was obvious from some moments just how much Katherine loved Michael and how she misses him every day. Those moments even made me tear up because I could see how she's still in pain. But at the same time it's kind of telling that the best answers Katherine gave were the ones she couldn't really put into words, like her grief. Sure she's allowed to have her own opinions about things but why would she deliberately go and say something like Michael may have been addicted to plastic surgery or drugs when he's not even here anymore to prove otherwise? That kind of speculation doesn't lead anywhere, and who really cares about the plastic surgery anyway. It hardly comes as a surprise to anyone that Michael had a few plastic surgeries done, the least of all to his mum.

In the end it was a good thing that Prince and Paris were there since they seemed like the only ones who weren't sucked in by Oprah's tactics. Prince especially was really interesting to watch, as he looked like he just wanted to get out of there and made sure that he said as little as possible to Oprah. He kind of looked like he didn't trust Oprah at all, whereas Paris spoke a bit more but she made sure that nothing she said could be turned into lies. But I just don't get how hypocritical Oprah was when she was talking to the kids and to Katherine about the kids. She was all "Oh, aren't you kids wonderful and I'm so sorry about your dad, BUT aren't you glad things are more normal for you now?" I was just sitting there thinking "WTF?! These three are probably the three most level-headed celebrity kids I've ever seen. Don't you think that might be BECAUSE Michael kept them away from the spotlight for so long, and not in spite of it?" It just makes me so angry how some, especially Oprah, are constantly trying to undermine Michael's accomplishments as a father while at the same time they all admit that the children are really smart and well-mannered. They can't have it both ways and it's about time Oprah and the rest of the idiotic members of the media realize that the three "most normal" (if there is such a thing as normal anyway) members of the family are Michael's kids, the children of the same man that they called an unfit parent all his life. I guess some people just can't stand to be wrong so they have to twist the facts to make them fit their own agenda.

End rant.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

When I think of how Michael was attacked, critisized, and crucified by the media and some so called fans for raising his kids the way he did, for keeping them away from the limelight etc. Fans on various boards accusing him of loving to 'razzle dazzle' the media by covering his kids faces etc.. Everything he endured for that to think that, all this just doesn't seem to matter at all, as those people have decided once again to to ignore all his efforts and those kids were on Oprah being interviewed on national TV, just for the sake of a stupid book. I mean come on, Michael spent 12 years of his life enduring so much because he kept them away, going thru so many lengths but these people just don't care. It just doesn't seem to matter all his efforts were traded in order to promote a crappy book. It's very telling that his children landed on Oprah barely one and half years after his death. Very VERY TELLING.

 

[rainny]

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Michael spent 12 years of his life enduring so much because he kept them away, going thru so many lengths but these people just don't care. It just doesn't seem to matter all his efforts were traded in order to promote a crappy book. It's very telling that his children landed on Oprah barely one and half years after his death. Very VERY TELLING.

That.

 

[Ohood]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

why then do you think Grace and Alvars (spl?) were send away !? because they did not like certain things and they were ready to fight for the kids !

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

...But at the same time it's kind of telling that the best answers Katherine gave were the ones she couldn't really put into words, like her grief. Sure she's allowed to have her own opinions about things but why would she deliberately go and say something like Michael may have been addicted to plastic surgery or drugs when he's not even here anymore to prove otherwise? That kind of speculation doesn't lead anywhere, and who really cares about the plastic surgery anyway. It hardly comes as a surprise to anyone that Michael had a few plastic surgeries done, the least of all to his mum.

She was all "Oh, aren't you kids wonderful and I'm so sorry about your dad, BUT aren't you glad things are more normal for you now?" I was just sitting there thinking "WTF?!
End rant.

The part about the grief is very good. That is why Katherine, not being interview savvy should have discussed possible questions and answers with someone before the interview.

About the more normal now part, I cannot believe she said this and there was no outcry from people. She is literally saying that there was something wrong in the way the kids father raised them to their faces. This is so wrong on so many levels. How could someone say something like this to children? Very sad for our society.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Did anyone else detect any (real) sympathy from Oprah during her talk with Katherine, 'cause I certainly did'nt!

 

[ginvid]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

^Oprah was not sympathetic at all. She was very hard hearted and fake. And I hated when she kept pushing Katherine to say that she remembered MJ as a child. Kath kept trying to say that was not the only time, but eventually she gave in to Oprah. Oprah was trying to imply Kath wanted to remember him Before and surgery. Epic Fail on Oprah's part.

 

[caleb20003]

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Oprah tried her hardest to get those kids to cry on TV $$$$$$

I think it was interesting that Joe was there and believe he played a big part in getting all this arranged and shoving the kids out there. He certainly has Katherines ear still.
Pretty Galling to think for MJ would be livid about it all.

The rest of the Jackson clan will be hanging round them (mj3) well into their forties now they know the trust fund distribution, so we can probably expect some more of this, it certainly will not be the last interview! Infact, I probably expect them to appear with the odious t**t that is Piers Morgan soon or maybe even a Martin Bashit special (don't laugh it really could happen)

 

[LindavG]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

^Oprah was not sympathetic at all. She was very hard hearted and fake. And I hated when she kept pushing Katherine to say that she remembered MJ as a child. Kath kept trying to say that was not the only time, but eventually she gave in to Oprah. Oprah was trying to imply Kath wanted to remember him Before and surgery. Epic Fail on Oprah's part.

True, but then again being cold and heartless seems to be Oprah's style. I used to like her show but I've now come to see her for the insincere ratings-hunter that she is.

 

[ilmjj]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I just posted this in another thread but I want to say it here too. Since Oprah seems to not be able to get enough of all things Michael, I wish she would do a show where she interviewed his fans. I have some names for her too!!!

I would love to see that show because she wouldn't stand a chance:evil:

 

[music65]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

True, but then again being cold and heartless seems to be Oprah's style. I used to like her show but I've now come to see her for the insincere ratings-hunter that she is.

good for you..I knew all along.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I just posted this in another thread but I want to say it here too. Since Oprah seems to not be able to get enough of all things Michael, I wish she would do a show where she interviewed his fans. I have some names for her too!!!

I would love to see that show because she wouldn't stand a chance:evil:

Oh My Goodness!!!! That show will really be a ratings breaker. Everyone will tune in including me. I am going to think about this tonight before I fall asleep in case I have some nice dreams about it. Dreaming about it is good, since she is afraid of doing this in reality.

 

[JMie]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

check this guys http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3070454

TMZ leaked the contract between Katherine and Howard Mann. apparently the kids are in it. and the contracts binds "KJ party" to appear in interviews. So there you go.

 

[Laura.L.]

Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Did anyone else detect any (real) sympathy from Oprah during her talk with Katherine, 'cause I certainly did'nt!

I didn't either, because there was none. She's cold to the core, a completely heartless woman. It almost looked like Oprah was trying to hold back a smile while Katherine was in tears. Unbelieveable. :sigh:

 

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Re: Update: Air date Nov. 8 th / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I never thought I would see the day when Michael's own Mother would let him down. So upset over all this. Truly gutted and dreading jan and the circus beginning with only us and MJ3 on Michael's side.

I hope you turn up to court in January but whether you do or don't i know his mother will be there and a few other family members too because they want justice and won't sit around on the internet waiting for it to happen without taking action.