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Michael would not want his fans taking there lives for him.
I think that if I committ suicide, I won't see him in Heaven ... But I have to say this- I was a different person prior to June 25 09. I think Michael's death has traumatized me so much that I'm no longer the Tiffany that I once was. I've really changed mentally / emotionally.
I really hope this doesnt come across as insensitive, but make more of your life then.
He really really shouldnt be the only thing in your life, perhaps this is just temporary for you and things will get much better.
To me, Michael is my idol. I practice his teachings and live my life by his teachings and am in love with everything he has ever done and love him because of that.
But I also have love in my life, I want to go on and get a good job and have a big house. I still have many things in my life that I enjoy doing. You can find things like this too.
I dont know what your life is like, but I do know that you can find other things in your life aside from Michael. ALL OF YOU CAN.
Please dont take all this the wrong way, im just trying to help and motivate you to carry on.
I am sitting here with a wave of sorrow so unexpected I can't breathe. Tears are streaming down my face and that awful noise is escaping from my chest. This is the reason:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPh7bVkNkPg&feature=player_embedded
I miss him so much, and I want to be with him so badly. I am sitting here with countless prescription meds that I know could take my life. I am sitting and stare at them and wonder why I can't just do it. I want this over with. I want to die, but I can't. I just want to be with him. I miss him, I miss him, I miss him. Forever I will miss him, forever I will love him. :weeping:
I would never aspire to have a "good job" or a big house. I am not a materialistic, empty person in that way. Those are things which society has taught you to desire. You don't desire them for yourself. There is a reason why, nowadays, the only way to have both of the things you said is to go to college. Is college free? NO. Those b@$t@*d$$$$$$$ charge whatever they frickin please because they KNOW they've got you cornered. They have already won. Even if you get scholarships, federal aid, etc., they're still scamming you for money and absorbing all they can because they know you have no other option, especially in this $#*t economy.
Well, for us, the fun never ends. Once you get thoroughly scammed and thrown out of the college you attended with diploma in hand, you are expected to sell yourself to society and be used until the day you die. It's all a business, your "good job" and your "big house". Look at all the people who had "good jobs" and "big houses", who got foreclosed in recent years. Au Revoir to your American Dream, hello reality. The banks had no qualms about putting people in the street just to repossess those houses in hopes of selling them for profit.
To answer your question clearly, what I have is existential depression. In other words, I am thoroughly disillusioned with how the world is today. I in no way want to be a part of all of that, as you have suggested. If that's what you consider having a good life, I want no part of it, thank you.
I have no doubt that there are many worthwhile people on the planet, like Michael. What dominates our illusory world of madness, however, is something green and evil. Something that controls all of us, even if we are against it. There is no escaping it.
So yes, Michael is my whole world. I won't bother speaking about private family things on any forum. All I will tell you is that there is a good reason why they are all out of my life, especially my mother. If he's not your whole world and you have someone else, great for you.
To me, he is my everything, and the only reason I am here. It is Michael, good literature, writing and art that keep my sanity intact.
Thats just the way life is and we cant change it, you'll never be happy if you keep thinking the way you are now.Sure i'd love things to be different. But I want a good job and a big house.
Society hasnt taught me to desire these things, I just realise that thats the way life is. I desire these things so I can support a family someday and want to give them the best, im not selfishly thinking about myself.
What I really want to do is entertain. I want to be a singer. But thats unrealistic, if I focus on that and fail I will have nothing to fall back on. Youve just go to be realistic and realise that this is the way life is.
Only a cold-hearted person would want to build their lives upon the sacrifices of others.
Don't misunderstand what I said--I am happy in my own sphere of existence. What I am unhappy with is the way of the world. I won't ever accept it--it's so very wrong. I would rather die than contribute to the trainwreck the world we have created is.
Like Michael said, this could really be a beautiful world. I have seen it and I believe it will rise again, perhaps after we all kill each other in order to fuel our society in hopes of "having good jobs and big houses to support our families." Look at where we all are now-- we can't even realistically support our horrible lifestyles--not for much longer, anyway.
It's that way of thinking that sickens me. Our world is running out of resources to support our cars, houses and "good jobs". Society sells you the idea of having all of those things, like a drug. You're a fool if you think you want that out of free will. Such a coincidence, then, that the majority of the western world (America especially) all want the same thing. Ever since childhood, people are sold these ideas, though the media and otherwise, with the exception of wanting to reproduce. That's just biology.
In any case, I am the one who is being realistic here. It is a horrible thing that is happening, but most people are too blind to see what is going on, since they're all obsessed with "good jobs" and "big houses". I am not criticizing you, it just so happens that most people want both of those things, as they have been taught to desire these. It is through the exploitation of other countries and of its own lower classes that America is able to grant such excesses to its middle and (especially) upper classes. Nothing is ever achieved without someone else having to make a sacrifice, whether willingly or unwillingly.
I don't know about you, but I am uneasy at the idea of my success coming at such a tremendous and bloody price. I would not be able to sleep at night knowing that, while I excess in food and material possessions in my big, resource-guzzling house with my family, some kid in China is slaving his life away for pennies a day in a sweatshop, sacrificing his childhood so that MY privileged American kids can play with the latest aqua guy toy.
But, as you said, we should all just accept life for what it is and carry on screwing over the world we live in. As long as we have our high-paying jobs and big houses, who gives a $#*t about what our fellow human beings are going through to support our excesses.
Im not going to reply to your properly until you stopping putting things I have said in inverted commas. It makes you come across as pompous. Think whatever you want, but dont belittle my point of view like that.
we all miss him but taking out own lives will not help matters. Im delighted to hear that you will not do this. Although I am sure you are suffering badly just think about your family and friends. They wouldn't want you to do this either. The pain you have now will get easier over time. As long as you remember Michael he will always be with youI realize that now. But I still can't believe how much I still miss him. :weeping:
we all miss him but taking out own lives will not help matters. Im delighted to hear that you will not do this. Although I am sure you are suffering badly just think about your family and friends. They wouldn't want you to do this either. The pain you have now will get easier over time. As long as you remember Michael he will always be with you![]()
Just stopping by again today to give you all a virtual hug. I'm sad knowing that so many of you, in your own little corners of the world, are feeling such sorrow.
Right now there is some back and forth in this thread about lifestyle choices, etc. We all lead very different lives and have different goals, but one thing we all have in common is our love for MJ. We may feel differently about him though -- to some he's an idol, a hero, an angel, a teacher, a friend, a family member. For some he is one of many passions and for others he is the major thing keeping them going. We are all different and I don't think there is one right way to have him in our lives, just as there is no one way to grieve. I do think everyone in this thread has the best of intentions though, so maybe we can focus on our commonalities and how we can best support each other? I feel more than ever that it's super important for us to stick together. I know I really need you all. :heart:
One year ago today the love of my life was taken from me. But I feel like it just happened yesterday. Each day to me is a blur as if I am just walking through a thick white cloud. Honestly I just can't handle the fact that Michael is gone, I just can't. I am constantly thinking about ending my life. (Don't worry I don't have the guts to do it.) I just want to be with Michael so badly, and if I can't be with him then I don't have any desire to be here. I have no fear of death anymore. Sometimes I go horse back riding and lately I find myself leaving my helmet behind (which I would never do before) but I really wouldn't mind if I fell off and died of a head injury. It is horrible but I can't stop thinking about those things. Is this normal? How will I ever go on? He was my first love, and will be my last. I just want to scream. Please somebody tell me how you got through this because I don't think I can take much more. It hurts so much. Sometimes the pain is too much, too much, that I am not always sure what to do. I dread life every time I wake up, I dread seeing people around me being happy, I can't handle going on with each day, knowing that the world around me is moving so fast, going on with every day life, that I can't seem to do. I just feel my whole life has been crushed, torn from underneath me and how unfair it is to have your love of your life, your best friend, and your soulmate all take from you in a heartbeat. It is just all too much and I am just not sure how to go about each day without screaming out loud, screaming at the top of my lungs, WHY MICHAEL!! I am screaming, but only within. There are so many things I want to write, so many things I want to say, but I guess I can save them for another time. Sorry for going on so much, it hurts writing it all, but felt nice to get it out to those who are going through the same thing.
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Wow, beautiful words! :heart: And so true! :clapping:Just stopping by again today to give you all a virtual hug. I'm sad knowing that so many of you, in your own little corners of the world, are feeling such sorrow.
Right now there is some back and forth in this thread about lifestyle choices, etc. We all lead very different lives and have different goals, but one thing we all have in common is our love for MJ. We may feel differently about him though -- to some he's an idol, a hero, an angel, a teacher, a friend, a family member. For some he is one of many passions and for others he is the major thing keeping them going. We are all different and I don't think there is one right way to have him in our lives, just as there is no one way to grieve. I do think everyone in this thread has the best of intentions though, so maybe we can focus on our commonalities and how we can best support each other? I feel more than ever that it's super important for us to stick together. I know I really need you all. :heart:
One year ago today the love of my life was taken from me. But I feel like it just happened yesterday. Each day to me is a blur as if I am just walking through a thick white cloud. Honestly I just can't handle the fact that Michael is gone, I just can't. I am constantly thinking about ending my life. (Don't worry I don't have the guts to do it.) I just want to be with Michael so badly, and if I can't be with him then I don't have any desire to be here. I have no fear of death anymore. Sometimes I go horse back riding and lately I find myself leaving my helmet behind (which I would never do before) but I really wouldn't mind if I fell off and died of a head injury. It is horrible but I can't stop thinking about those things. Is this normal? How will I ever go on? He was my first love, and will be my last. I just want to scream. Please somebody tell me how you got through this because I don't think I can take much more. It hurts so much. Sometimes the pain is too much, too much, that I am not always sure what to do. I dread life every time I wake up, I dread seeing people around me being happy, I can't handle going on with each day, knowing that the world around me is moving so fast, going on with every day life, that I can't seem to do. I just feel my whole life has been crushed, torn from underneath me and how unfair it is to have your love of your life, your best friend, and your soulmate all take from you in a heartbeat. It is just all too much and I am just not sure how to go about each day without screaming out loud, screaming at the top of my lungs, WHY MICHAEL!! I am screaming, but only within. There are so many things I want to write, so many things I want to say, but I guess I can save them for another time. Sorry for going on so much, it hurts writing it all, but felt nice to get it out to those who are going through the same thing.
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I think that if I committ suicide, I won't see him in Heaven ... But I have to say this- I was a different person prior to June 25 09. I think Michael's death has traumatized me so much that I'm no longer the Tiffany that I once was. I've really changed mentally / emotionally.
Just listen to Michaels music or watch his videos he is with you in those moments![]()
:better: Sweetie, I know how you feel...heck we all do...however I have not thought of joining him, because I have my wonderful children
Michael I am pretty sure of this would want us to enjoy our life and do fun things like he liked to do, plus he couldn't really have a 'normal' anonymous life like all of us..I HONESTLY think he would want us to be happy...and then it almost seems impossible to be happy, because he is not here.
I wake up everyday and it hits me like the first day...because he was taken to soon. No one ever saw this coming...it's such a shock...that shock will never leave me
and you too...but somehow...
we are trying to live with it. That is the hardest thing of all. We don't know how to live with it because it is the unimaginable...Michael not being here...I thought Michael would always be here ya know![]()
We will join Michael when it is our time...whenever that may be...and I like to think that somehow he will be waiting for us:heart: But only when it's our time
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Fran you know I love you and please know that I am here for you :huggy: I know I can't make you feel better, but I just wanted to say that :hug:
I just wish I could curl up in the grave with him.